From coriordan@vorcha.compsoc.com Wed Jul 2 07:41:07 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FOURLA, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Jul 2008 14:41:07 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m62Ef1rY009280 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:41:03 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KE3W1-00033h-6h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:41:01 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KE3W0-00032V-BE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:41:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37060 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KE3W0-00032K-63 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:41:00 -0400 Received: from vorcha.compsoc.com ([193.120.123.130]:59776) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KE3Vz-0002kM-JV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:40:59 -0400 Received: by vorcha.compsoc.com (Postfix, from userid 950) id 1EEBC47A0C; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:40:59 +0100 (IST) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:40:59 +0100 (IST) From: coriordan@vorcha.compsoc.com (Ciaran O'Riordan) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) When I set the input method to "dutch", and I type an 's' followed by a c= omma (which is as common in Dutch as it is in English) I get =C5=9F (s wi= th a squiggle). Further, it seems that all characters that are needed fo= r typing in Turkish have been given a key sequence in the Dutch input met= hod. For someone who just wants to write in Dutch, this is frustrating en= ough for the dutch input method to be not worth using.=20 In GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2008-05-03 on terranova, modified by Ubuntu configured using `configure '--build=3Di486-linux-gnu' '--host=3Di486-li= nux-gnu' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--libexecdir=3D= /usr/lib' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--mandi= r=3D/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=3Dyes' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/ema= cs22:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/em= acs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:= /usr/share/emacs/22.1/leim' '--with-x=3Dyes' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' 'bu= ild_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=3D-DDEB= IAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=3D5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-g -Wl,--as-neede= d' 'CPPFLAGS=3D'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_IE.UTF-8@euro locale-coding-system: utf-8 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-undo-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t encoded-kbd-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: a v e SPC s o m e SPC s u p p o r t e r s C-p C-e C-f=20 C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f=20 C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-k C-x b RET q g n n n=20 p p RET RET ESC > C-r m i n a RET ESC > C-r i m DEL=20 l h m DEL DEL m h RET ESC > C-r j a p a DEL o n RET=20 q C-x b RET C-x b RET g g p p p p p p p p p n RET RET=20 q g p p p p p p p p p p p RET E E q g n n n RET E q=20 g n n n n n n n n n n n n n n RET RET ESC > q g g p=20 p p p RET E q g g n n p p p p p p p p p p p p p RET=20 RET ESC > C-p C-p RET C-g n C-g q g g g g g g g m C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-o C-o C-n ESC x s e t - i n p u TAB=20 RET d u t TAB RET s ; DEL DEL s , C-p C-f C-k C-x k=20 RET y e s RET m C-x k RET ESC x e m a c s - b u TAB=20 TAB TAB DEL DEL DEL DEL TAB TAB ESC DEL b u g TAB TAB=20 TAB C-h a b u g RET C-x o C-v C-v q C-x 0 ESC x e r=20 e DEL DEL DEL r e p o TAB r t TAB RET Recent messages: nnml: Reading incoming mail (no new mail)...done Reading active file via nnml...done Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done Checking new news...done Making completion list... 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Loading emacsbug...done From cloos@jhcloos.com Thu Jul 3 06:34:05 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 518) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Jul 2008 13:34:06 +0000 Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com (eagle.jhcloos.com [207.210.242.212]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m63DXtB5023387 for <518@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:33:57 -0700 Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5CD4740084; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:33:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1215092034; bh=6IIiQqVdI8R1IzYcGg/sWaW4VfNZjvpgTC6DF8xRJ EM=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YyxMklMtOCI 4dEXmW61p6d1jZeZXO5DAmEcJ7uXiWy4Ohlw7ZKEnV6iC4S684JOdjSJ8j62iOJpExu icsX1C4r7xugI5KcYnhbj+NMHY7gGmWkw12DiE5Pwoazh/H4AymgT3hcnc8OJ9xJsf8 CucL1ooNsFwyrHR6NrZ4vxN9LU= Received: by lugabout.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9F2882106E9; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:32:57 +0000 (UTC) From: James Cloos To: 518@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences In-Reply-To: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> (Ciaran O'Riordan's message of "Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:40:59 +0100 (IST)") References: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2008 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:32:33 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On that front, the ij (ij) and IJ (IJ) ligs are not really used. (They are only in the UCS for compatability with legacy encodings.) They should not be part of the default input method. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 From juri@jurta.org Sun Jul 6 12:45:06 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 518) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Jul 2008 19:45:06 +0000 Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com (relay02.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.197]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m66Jj23o012706 for <518@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:45:03 -0700 Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KFaAO-0003Zz-78; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:45:00 +0300 From: Juri Linkov To: "Ciaran O'Riordan" Cc: 518@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences Organization: JURTA References: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:44:35 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> (Ciaran O'Riordan's message of "Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:40:59 +0100 (IST)") Message-ID: <87r6a6n6fw.fsf@jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanner-Signature: ba97961d419726f65b83e74233c16638 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4235s [July 6 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release > When I set the input method to "dutch", and I type an 's' followed by > a comma (which is as common in Dutch as it is in English) I get ÅŸ (s > with a squiggle). Further, it seems that all characters that are > needed for typing in Turkish have been given a key sequence in the > Dutch input method. For someone who just wants to write in Dutch, this > is frustrating enough for the dutch input method to be not worth using. Maybe this should be fixed by separating Dutch and Turkish input methods, and implementing a feature to combine two and more input methods for those users who need this. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From jbw@macs.hw.ac.uk Mon Jul 7 03:13:53 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 518) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Jul 2008 10:13:53 +0000 Received: from mail-r.hw.ac.uk (mail-r.hw.ac.uk [137.195.101.217]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m67ADknP032739 for <518@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 03:13:48 -0700 Received: from izanami.macs.hw.ac.uk ([137.195.13.6]) by mail-r.hw.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1KFnih-0006h6-Cr; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:13:25 +0100 Received: from lxultra1.macs.hw.ac.uk ([137.195.27.173]:50621 helo=127.0.0.1) by izanami.macs.hw.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1KFnie-0002b1-Do; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:13:16 +0100 Received: (nullmailer pid 10804 invoked by uid 1001); Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:13:35 -0000 To: Juri Linkov Cc: 518@debbugs.gnu.org, "Ciaran O'Riordan" Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences References: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> From: Joe Wells Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:13:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun\, 06 Jul 2008 22\:44\:35 +0300") Message-ID: <86iqviypbk.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-HW-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the HW Helpdesk for more information X-HW-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HW-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-HW-MailScanner-From: jbw@macs.hw.ac.uk Juri Linkov writes: > Maybe this should be fixed by =E2=80=A6, > and implementing a feature to combine two and more input methods for > those users who need this. Strongly agreed! It would be wonderful if it were possible to combine input methods. --=20 Joe --=20 Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity registered under charity number SC000278. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 28 23:07:00 2015 Received: (at 518) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2015 04:07:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47175 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aDlYq-0008Mx-4w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:07:00 -0500 Received: from mail-qg0-f41.google.com ([209.85.192.41]:33990) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aDiri-0003YQ-JF for 518@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:14:18 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 6so79050951qgy.1 for <518@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 17:14:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KUTwKPhvHEFbLS+IT9kv5qUpAj58skKyws6TH+iRMps=; b=UBt81piR7tE88tqtbn5PEHdVdNdsmoptXw14+3rY5oN4YkzWGVMH3NP70vipoYNjjC w336VTlb4lQegA2+Z/6KGspzE3ItQNEcRACyT/zVFiaCWwetUWJyNidbhgrOH6xxJZE2 yYafVQbtwkObuXZLh7qcFrGoDfjkYl9oImNEfF1PfsoUyF0X3H13OmfCyzmjxC/HyBum vkCybOVLjb7F1ju5Y66+O0+tHG30WbU14LHlIrq0ay+JaalDQ7Vq/Hx/GyU8cQ5cdBc/ n15hzPfJnB7U+RrAXlrB4cw8u4Li/zzOvytq91QBAgmTRG81ItzNCkE0Vr0an05QB+t7 63vg== X-Received: by 10.140.169.139 with SMTP id p133mr78403675qhp.50.1451351653321; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 17:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Andrews-MacBook-Pro.local.ahyatt-laptop (cpe-74-73-128-199.nyc.res.rr.com. [74.73.128.199]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m127sm18676104qhm.43.2015.12.28.17.14.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Dec 2015 17:14:12 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Hyatt To: coriordan@vorcha.compsoc.com (Ciaran O'Riordan) Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences References: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:14:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> (Ciaran O'Riordan's message of "Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:40:59 +0100 (IST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 518 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:06:57 -0500 Cc: 518@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) I've confirmed that this problem still exists in Emacs 25. coriordan@vorcha.compsoc.com (Ciaran O'Riordan) writes: > When I set the input method to "dutch", and I type an 's' followed by a c= omma (which is as common in Dutch as it is in English) I get =C5=9F (s with= a squiggle). Further, it seems that all characters that are needed for ty= ping in Turkish have been given a key sequence in the Dutch input method. F= or someone who just wants to write in Dutch, this is frustrating enough for= the dutch input method to be not worth using.=20 > > > In GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) > of 2008-05-03 on terranova, modified by Ubuntu > configured using `configure '--build=3Di486-linux-gnu' '--host=3Di486-li= nux-gnu' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--libexecdir=3D/u= sr/lib' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--mandir=3D= /usr/share/man' '--with-pop=3Dyes' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs22:/= etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site= -lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share= /emacs/22.1/leim' '--with-x=3Dyes' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' 'build_alias=3D= i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=3D-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD= _PURESIZE_EXTRA=3D5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS=3D'' > > Important settings: > value of $LC_ALL: nil > value of $LC_COLLATE: nil > value of $LC_CTYPE: nil > value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil > value of $LC_MONETARY: nil > value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil > value of $LC_TIME: nil > value of $LANG: en_IE.UTF-8@euro > locale-coding-system: utf-8 > default-enable-multibyte-characters: t > > Major mode: Group > > Minor modes in effect: > gnus-undo-mode: t > show-paren-mode: t > display-time-mode: t > encoded-kbd-mode: t > tool-bar-mode: t > file-name-shadow-mode: t > global-font-lock-mode: t > font-lock-mode: t > unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t > utf-translate-cjk-mode: t > auto-compression-mode: t > column-number-mode: t > line-number-mode: t > transient-mark-mode: t > > Recent input: > a v e SPC s o m e SPC s u p p o r t e r s C-p C-e C-f=20 > C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f=20 > C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-k C-x b RET q g n n n=20 > p p RET RET ESC > C-r m i n a RET ESC > C-r i m DEL=20 > l h m DEL DEL m h RET ESC > C-r j a p a DEL o n RET=20 > q C-x b RET C-x b RET g g p p p p p p p p p n RET RET=20 > q g p p p p p p p p p p p RET E E q g n n n RET E q=20 > g n n n n n n n n n n n n n n RET RET ESC > q g g p=20 > p p p RET E q g g n n p p p p p p p p p p p p p RET=20 > RET ESC > C-p C-p RET C-g n C-g q g g g g g g g m C-n=20 > C-n C-n C-n C-n C-o C-o C-n ESC x s e t - i n p u TAB=20 > RET d u t TAB RET s ; 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Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:57:50 -0400 Received: from mfilter28-d.gandi.net (mfilter28-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.159]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4414A80CB; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:57:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter28-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.195]) by mfilter28-d.gandi.net (mfilter28-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V0AEq-pNy5ZT; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:57:46 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 81.83.192.51 Received: from MacToonPro-2.local (d5153C033.access.telenet.be [81.83.192.51]) (Authenticated sender: toon@iotcl.com) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0AFCCA80C6; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:57:44 +0100 (CET) From: Toon Claes To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:57:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: Juri Linkov's message of "Sun\, 06 Jul 2008 22\:44\:35 +0300 \(7 years\, 37 weeks\, 4 days ago\)" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 518 Cc: 518@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain >>>>> Juri Linkov writes: >Maybe this should be fixed by separating Dutch and Turkish input methods, >and implementing a feature to combine two and more input methods for >those users who need this. I am native Dutch speaking. And I agree on separating Dutch from Turkish. When we are talking about Dutch and Turkish, I do not see any added value in combining these two input methods. In my opinion there are completely unrelated. If combining input methods is interesting for other ones, it is outside the scope of this bug and is better discussed on the emacs-devel mailing list. -- Toon Claes toon@iotcl.com PGP key fingerprint = AA9A A457 F944 B972 83D4 A177 3114 3A82 D32B 3897 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJW9wXdAAoJEDEUOoLTKziXLTYP+QFeH8NkdWnBQgL1dRJbZilS 3aMY2Y23WNYe8MnQkPnZAJYpd1y7zb5CuOdvcjgodD6quzUFeZb9aWUWHKgLa+2u 8iZVHXVQoQ4x4N3jSogHhK9Y423e27OqBGzOnadejJ70wX8LWrbTFf51K3dBzCWX ypw86N3ouPocLHkwBLETL5PP/lKv9ZLMgkwNCn/oJNBgJDCkumjKpOnAPff4du2v y4l2xNp3ybmxqQ9L/CaOAP9eUBttXmCYh3LqOq/4mI4/s/Mh8yVhfNWEbKevRbQ5 REy5CMgdkAEjsk81VTpv0gBBkNLWH9cW2xdMl9lKri+B9k5H46SFrVWzZMoF4YGw Y7l0yP3+QpZTwTdvWDQMGslSADGSRILTqo5q62UFtouGNM3DlbXbviO8t06qizKR 6IRnxl4j10p2JcREpvvqM9wlXAmDqNkLX8iwohJSrnVAg2aqnL/nH/Q2+9H+mOrk ozAKxmDAQ7XoXJcPNSIcYTvKpbJGMx3FlIDC9RjJq/9A4Ag3IykYLgTztpnXW/MS MFEBFbAncpo4caw/3B18e3vv8TvV2L+KZ+J8hZrhhbmcIJHAMh9MeJYF+LmfINkk wyoMmHJP5qkSuEJnVvKDd6v86b9dz4r/tPeJo1PJHvPZM1cmSzu8HowLdyFdDqCY lViJdm06n+ReZiT73i0m =hxmL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 26 20:21:06 2016 Received: (at 518) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2016 00:21:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39012 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajyS2-0005Xa-CN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:21:06 -0400 Received: from mail-pf0-f181.google.com ([209.85.192.181]:34322) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajyRy-0005Vh-EQ for 518@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:21:02 -0400 Received: by mail-pf0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x3so108963754pfb.1 for <518@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:21:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=kY/wD4Qt7JpWEt7gdZ3rxA5YBVWwDCC7m+DkucOvrEA=; b=QMCj+009QGV6V2VKvbI2oDOOmLVAfTI2umU312QzFLGXO+IE88lCxcZ4vCH0zhzy03 cmZgDTkhhOV0zdxixQ9gtt1i9qCQG+Y6Wp+D228guzZ0TqPUR/egtCpb0+m4bYVJr8jI xJSlzYqXJxP1Ts+LAWWuTWZ2ydsK+8sxSPLUmtP84nErZAnNv4lSpX0Gl45J631Awz+P UFx2GxLXlcKyoFRz4k2tpjhL6jyyda6z8UUqWGMI4YSyXvApxAT/FuevlZl+rNeYMqSs q/O8Ob2ywSmKzylQ0/4+/vuekdKAM7akwRVIpQ90YohfQAPP1DnpBEzLcA6EDNJnA3F/ 3DzQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=kY/wD4Qt7JpWEt7gdZ3rxA5YBVWwDCC7m+DkucOvrEA=; b=hEJ1JaeQ+X5c0TlJEl1K03VKe+ye8P7tz8kZK9GhRh+Pb3JiCPfB59k/fm2o14Qad2 Pr9Us2k+NAI0Z6bQXBZwKiXA3WAYvQWvJQVGUTIr5w++La/YGGiLXsAOlQ+v9CnMCRIU Kr6ZhN1WWaO9OxNKeGSokeRZq7Jhnghfst+Br/B3EDZ7do0Xy9Jf8xcolgpvqncKIs5b +8zv6HFEgqNovMNe0UImsRq7AcBzXiZYuvJ+brDRwxvmZMuDnTWo4SlMStta/n9pYQaE NxChYHnrZ20gHSKSKRyxcNxdx1bLR0evqIPYHfMXRPjxMgrZVXnGT3UkcvTud9KnGrOv cxtA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLozClpu7DyWDG7cgDw232drA9hAMtsYcjO8dNe42+vdY77GGxXJuA0zqDYdV8wRA== X-Received: by 10.98.72.218 with SMTP id q87mr31970299pfi.117.1459038057020; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Hermes.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x64sm25469613pfa.72.2016.03.26.17.20.53 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:20:54 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wiegley X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Received: by Hermes.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 465B24FB4C63; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:20:53 -0700 (PDT) To: Toon Claes Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences In-Reply-To: (Toon Claes's message of "Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:57:49 +0100") Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:10:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 518 Cc: Juri Linkov , 518@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) >>>>> Toon Claes writes: > I am native Dutch speaking. And I agree on separating Dutch from Turkish. I'm not native speaking, and even I agree. Why would they be conflated at all? Do we need to ship Emacs with a small global map? :) -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 30 16:36:51 2016 Received: (at 518) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2016 20:36:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45432 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alMrC-0007lZ-RM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:36:51 -0400 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:53698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alMrB-0007lQ-4L for 518@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:36:49 -0400 Received: from mfilter18-d.gandi.net (mfilter18-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.146]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12CA1720B3; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:36:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter18-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.196]) by mfilter18-d.gandi.net (mfilter18-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Clzbl4JZjmb; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:36:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 81.83.192.51 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (d5153C033.access.telenet.be [81.83.192.51]) (Authenticated sender: toon@iotcl.com) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C9921720A4; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:36:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_587D0E54-D031-4DA3-94C6-E4C7C2EB9501"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.6b2 From: Toon Claes In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:36:39 +0200 Message-Id: References: <20080702144059.1EEBC47A0C@vorcha.compsoc.com> To: John Wiegley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 518 Cc: Juri Linkov , 518@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --Apple-Mail=_587D0E54-D031-4DA3-94C6-E4C7C2EB9501 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CC7F646E-C2E4-4214-9B84-7C6C8B0EFACE" --Apple-Mail=_CC7F646E-C2E4-4214-9B84-7C6C8B0EFACE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tags: patch I removed the Turkish ligatures from Dutch in the patch attached. 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I don't know much about input methods, but the patch looks trivially correct. Any reason not to apply? Toon do you have a copyright assignment? I assume not, there's no need since the patch only removes code... > > * lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el: Remove Turkish ligatures from Dutch > input method. > --- > lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el | 13 +------------ > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 12 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el > index 30df9ac..5e644ed 100644 > --- a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el > +++ b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el > @@ -1152,7 +1152,7 @@ Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a^^ -> a^ > (quail-define-package > "dutch" "Dutch" "NL" t > "Dutch character mixfix input method. > -Caters for French and Turkish as well as Dutch. > +Caters for French and Dutch. > > | | examples > ------------+---------+---------- > @@ -1163,8 +1163,6 @@ Caters for French and Turkish as well as Dutch. > acute | \\=' | a\\=' -> ¡ > grave | \\=` | a\\=` ->   > circumflex | ^ | a^ -> ¢ > - Turkish | various | i/ -> ± s, -> Ÿ g^ -> Ÿ I/ -> ° > - | | S, -> ž G^ -> ž > ------------+---------+---------- > | prefix | > ------------+---------+---------- > @@ -1226,15 +1224,6 @@ Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a\\='\\=' -> a\\=' > ("I^" ?Ž) ;; LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH CIRCUMFLEX > ("O^" ?”) ;; LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH CIRCUMFLEX > ("U^" ?›) ;; LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U WITH CIRCUMFLEX > - ;; €œFollow the example of the Dutch POSIX locale, using ISO-8859-9 to > - ;; cater to the many Turks in Dutch society.€ Perhaps German methods > - ;; should do so too. Follow turkish-alt-postfix here. > - ("i/" ?±) ;; LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH NO DOT > - ("s," ?Ÿ) ;; LATIN SMALL LETTER S WITH CEDILLA > - ("g^" ?Ÿ) ;; LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH BREVE > - ("I/" ?°) ;; LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH DOT ABOVE > - ("S," ?ž) ;; LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S WITH CEDILLA > - ("G^" ?ž) ;; LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G WITH BREVE > ) > > ;; Originally from Yudit, discussed with Albertas Agejevas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 14 09:05:00 2017 Received: (at 518-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2017 13:05:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37890 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dW0HE-0003MI-Dn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 09:05:00 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:37608) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dW0HD-0003M6-3h for 518-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 09:04:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6799D1601D1; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id iK55-Ek9bnBe; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DE51601D8; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:04:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id l_K4nZVABydD; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.184.153]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 880E11601CD; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:04:52 -0700 (PDT) To: 518-done@debbugs.gnu.org From: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <9a16e729-cdac-246e-66da-835d3d9cdc18@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:04:52 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 518-done Cc: Andrew Hyatt , Toon Claes , Ciaran O'Riordan , npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > It seems this patch was forgotten. I don't know much about input > methods, but the patch looks trivially correct. Any reason not to > apply? I don't see one. I applied the patch to Emacs master. Thanks, Toon. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 14 09:24:16 2017 Received: (at 518) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2017 13:24:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37927 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dW0Zr-0003qH-TV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 09:24:16 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:39022) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dW0Zq-0003q4-3s for 518@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 09:24:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE47160064; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id EGQPycBT0Nnb; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2501601C6; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:24:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id zD_RpOgNT5Ds; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.184.153]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE92C160064; Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:24:06 -0700 (PDT) To: James Cloos From: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: bug#518: Dutch input method flooded with Turkish conversation sequences Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:24:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------53F31E013DFC84D856B4E77C" Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 518 Cc: 518@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------53F31E013DFC84D856B4E77C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On that front, the ij (=C4=B3) and IJ (=C4=B2) ligs are not really used= . (They > are only in the UCS for compatability with legacy encodings.) >=20 > They should not be part of the default input method. Thanks, good point. I installed the attached. --------------53F31E013DFC84D856B4E77C Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="0001-Do-not-convert-ij-and-IJ-to-compatibility-chars.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*0="0001-Do-not-convert-ij-and-IJ-to-compatibility-chars.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From aea80aa6541842aed6cf18ce5dc9a4c3bb6c7340 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Paul Eggert Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 06:19:39 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] Do not convert ij and IJ to compatibility chars * lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el: Omit lines for ij and IJ in Dutch. Problem reported by James Cloos (Bug#518#10). --- etc/NEWS | 3 +++ lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el | 3 --- 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS index 2034bcb..dd6d546 100644 --- a/etc/NEWS +++ b/etc/NEWS @@ -360,6 +360,9 @@ variable of this kind to swap modifiers in Emacs. =20 --- ** The 'dutch' input method no longer attempts to support Turkish too. +Also, it no longer converts 'IJ' and 'ij' to the compatibility +characters U+0132 LATIN CAPITAL LIGATURE IJ and U+0133 LATIN SMALL +LIGATURE IJ. =20 +++ ** File name quoting by adding the prefix "/:" is now possible for the diff --git a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el index 0a04874..cc72134 100644 --- a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el +++ b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-alt.el @@ -1174,9 +1174,6 @@ (quail-define-rules ("fl." ?=C6=92) ;; LATIN SMALL LETTER F WITH HOOK (florin currency symb= ol) ("eur." ?=E2=82=AC) ;; EURO SIGN - ;; =E2=80=9CThe 25th letter of the Dutch alphabet.=E2=80=9D - ("ij" ?=C4=B3) ;; LATIN SMALL LIGATURE IJ - ("IJ" ?=C4=B2) ;; LATIN CAPITAL LIGATURE IJ ;; =E2=80=9CTrema on the second letter of vowel pair.=E2=80=9D Yudit u= ses `:', not `"'. 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