From svenjoac@gmx.de Wed Dec 9 01:40:24 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Dec 2009 09:40:25 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,FVGT_m_MULTI_ODD, X_DEBBUGS_CC autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nB99eNtp018972 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:40:24 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:33587) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NIJ1y-0006y5-6b for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:40:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NIJ1t-0002H3-QY for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:40:19 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:57055) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NIJ1t-0002GN-29 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:40:17 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Dec 2009 09:40:10 -0000 Received: from p5486401F.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO turtle.gmx.de) [84.134.64.31] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 09 Dec 2009 10:40:10 +0100 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19qekoQIUZqxonxYKm1g9EDx5bEB3rvlCejDE3/mp ++OMjpykfyivsW Received: by turtle.gmx.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 30F17354B6; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:40:09 +0100 (CET) From: Sven Joachim To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build X-Debbugs-Cc: Sven Joachim Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:40:09 +0100 Message-ID: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.46 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. In non-X builds, the display-time command is broken, because the find-image function is not defined: ,---- | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function find-image) | (find-image (quote (... ...))) | (defvar display-time-mail-icon (find-image (quote ...)) ("/usr/local/src/emacs-23.1.90/lisp/time.elc" . 7689)) | execute-extended-command(nil) | call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) `---- The following error messages from the build process (I used the 23.1.90 pretest tarball) might also be relevant: ,---- | EMACSLOADPATH=/usr/local/src/emacs-23.1.90/leim/../lisp LC_ALL=C ../src/emacs -batch --no-init-file --no-site-file --multibyte -l /usr/local/src/emacs-23.1.90/leim/../lisp/international/titdic-cnv \ | -f batch-miscdic-convert -dir quail /usr/local/src/emacs-23.1.90/leim/MISC-DIC; \ | echo "changed" > changed.misc | Converting CTLau.html to CTLau.el... | Converting CTLau.html to CTLau.el...done | Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... | File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) | Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el...done | Converting cangjie-table.b5 to quick-b5.el... | File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) | Converting cangjie-table.b5 to quick-b5.el...done | Converting pinyin.map to PY.el... | File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) | Converting pinyin.map to PY.el...done | Converting cangjie-table.cns to tsang-cns.el... | File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) | Converting cangjie-table.cns to tsang-cns.el...done | Converting cangjie-table.cns to quick-cns.el... | File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) | Converting cangjie-table.cns to quick-cns.el...done | Converting CTLau-b5.html to CTLau-b5.el... | Converting CTLau-b5.html to CTLau-b5.el...done | Converting ziranma.cin to ZIRANMA.el... | File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) | Converting ziranma.cin to ZIRANMA.el...done | Compiling quail/tsang-b5.el `---- In GNU Emacs 23.1.90.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) of 2009-12-09 on turtle configured using `configure '--without-x' '--build=i486-pc-linux-gnu' 'build_alias=i486-pc-linux-gnu'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: ESC [ > 0 ; 2 5 1 ; 0 c ESC ] 1 1 ; r g b : f f f f / f f f f / f f f f ESC \ ESC x d i s p l TAB t i m TAB RET ESC x r e p o r t - e m TAB RET Recent messages: ("./emacs") For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. defvar: Symbol's function definition is void: find-image Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow mail-extr message ecomplete rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-utils warnings emacsbug sendmail regexp-opt ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind multi-tty emacs) From rgm@gnu.org Wed Dec 9 18:07:33 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 02:07:33 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBA27Wqg027914 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:07:33 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NIYRH-0008OG-28; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:07:31 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Sven Joachim Cc: 5162@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> X-Spook: MD5 Perl-RSA global pipeline Lon Horiuchi bomb argus ANC X-Ran: wvmE8Q8AJthwpg{av]4U`%.C6}4M-X(}sc^T?8~&t4z0u1${j~wh-d\An[5qR)3McH!r39 X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:07:30 -0500 Message-ID: <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sven Joachim wrote: > In non-X builds, the display-time command is broken, because the > find-image function is not defined: Works fine for me, in a clean build from the current CVS trunk. I didn't try the actual 23.1.90 pretest. Do you have find-image in your loaddefs.el? If not, I'd guess that you did a with-x build first, then built without-x using the same loaddefs.el file. The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Wed Dec 9 20:07:42 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 04:07:42 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBA47eOi007543 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:07:42 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAGcDIEtMCpT8/2dsb2JhbACBS9N6hCwEihs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,372,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="51245074" Received: from 76-10-148-252.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.148.252]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 09 Dec 2009 23:07:34 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3B39A8065; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:07:34 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Cc: 5162@debbugs.gnu.org, Sven Joachim Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build Message-ID: References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:07:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:07:30 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. Then we need to detect this situation somehow and cause loaddefs.el to be updated correspondingly. Stefan From rgm@gnu.org Wed Dec 9 21:03:38 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 05:03:38 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBA53b4P011754 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:03:38 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NIbBe-0007cd-U4; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:03:34 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 5162@debbugs.gnu.org, Sven Joachim Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: terrorism ANC Soviet USCOI Defcon Rumsfeld monarchist X-Ran: L?2^$,w'%y0.+qJ8y"[Zd\@*TC*|xrd;bk|}.?>pKXeiE%hi\j| X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:03:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:07:34 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stefan Monnier wrote: >> The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. > > Then we need to detect this situation somehow and cause loaddefs.el to > be updated correspondingly. The only idea I had was to regenerate loaddefs from scratch whenever src/config.h changes. From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Wed Dec 9 23:58:44 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 07:58:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.183]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBA7wgbg029210 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:58:44 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYEABI5IEtMCpT8/2dsb2JhbACBS9NUhCwEihw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,374,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="51306117" Received: from 76-10-148-252.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.148.252]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 02:58:36 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AC5118065; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:58:36 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Cc: 5162@debbugs.gnu.org, Sven Joachim Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build Message-ID: References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:58:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:03:34 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. >> Then we need to detect this situation somehow and cause loaddefs.el to >> be updated correspondingly. > The only idea I had was to regenerate loaddefs from scratch whenever > src/config.h changes. I think the way to make it work is to let autoload.el store the autoload-excludes in the loaddefs.el file (as a special comment, similar to the special comment listing the files that had no autoload cookies). Then autoload can compare the old list with the new one and force scan any new unexcluded file, even if it's older than the timestamp. Tho, maybe just not storing the auto-excludes in the "no-autoloads" section might be enough to do the trick. E.g. the patch below seems to do the trick for me, Stefan === modified file 'lisp/emacs-lisp/autoload.el' --- lisp/emacs-lisp/autoload.el 2009-11-07 01:55:16 +0000 +++ lisp/emacs-lisp/autoload.el 2009-12-10 07:52:26 +0000 @@ -457,8 +457,6 @@ relfile ;; nil until we found a cookie. output-start) - (if (member absfile autoload-excludes) - (message "Generating autoloads for %s...skipped" file) (with-current-buffer (or visited ;; It is faster to avoid visiting the file. (autoload-find-file file)) @@ -572,7 +570,7 @@ (message "Generating autoloads for %s...done" file)) (or visited ;; We created this buffer, so we should kill it. - (kill-buffer (current-buffer))))) + (kill-buffer (current-buffer)))) ;; If the entries were added to some other buffer, then the file ;; doesn't add entries to OUTFILE. (or (not output-start) otherbuf)))) @@ -729,8 +727,11 @@ ((not (stringp file))) ((or (not (file-exists-p file)) ;; Remove duplicates as well, just in case. - (member file done)) + (member file done) + ;; If the file is actually excluded. + (member (expand-file-name file) autoload-excludes)) ;; Remove the obsolete section. + (setq changed t) (autoload-remove-section (match-beginning 0))) ((not (time-less-p (nth 4 form) (nth 5 (file-attributes file)))) @@ -746,9 +747,11 @@ (setq files (delete file files))))) ;; Elements remaining in FILES have no existing autoload sections yet. (dolist (file files) - (if (autoload-generate-file-autoloads file nil buffer-file-name) - (push file no-autoloads) - (setq changed t))) + (cond + ((member (expand-file-name file) autoload-excludes) nil) + ((autoload-generate-file-autoloads file nil buffer-file-name) + (push file no-autoloads)) + (t (setq changed t)))) (when no-autoloads ;; Sort them for better readability. From whitebox@nefkom.net Thu Dec 10 01:22:30 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 09:22:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net (mail-out.m-online.net [212.18.0.9]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBA9MROA007381 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:22:29 -0800 Received: from mail01.m-online.net (mail.m-online.net [192.168.3.149]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D62E1C159C5; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:22:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan2.mnet-online.de [192.168.1.215]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4C190648; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:22:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.3.149]) by localhost (dynscan2.mnet-online.de [192.168.1.215]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ou7YIw8G5Ej5; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:22:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from igel.home (DSL01.83.171.175.43.ip-pool.NEFkom.net [83.171.175.43]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:22:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 69760CA28F; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:22:19 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Glenn Morris Cc: 5162@debbugs.gnu.org, Sven Joachim Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Yow: Am I accompanied by a PARENT or GUARDIAN? Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:22:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:07:30 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Glenn Morris writes: > The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. If that is true then it is a major bug. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From svenjoac@gmx.de Thu Dec 10 02:28:01 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 10:28:01 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with SMTP id nBAARwrX014912 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:28:00 -0800 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Dec 2009 10:27:53 -0000 Received: from p54864824.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO turtle.gmx.de) [84.134.72.36] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 10 Dec 2009 11:27:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/ksAYj3FHkiLZClp+9K02g9ujrm5lO99eaApOQDF RZEbbBsAvtUSPF Received: by turtle.gmx.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5DC46354B6; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:27:52 +0100 (CET) From: Sven Joachim To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Glenn Morris , 5162@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:27:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:58:36 -0500") Message-ID: <87ws0v2kew.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 On 2009-12-10 08:58 +0100, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. >>> Then we need to detect this situation somehow and cause loaddefs.el to >>> be updated correspondingly. >> The only idea I had was to regenerate loaddefs from scratch whenever >> src/config.h changes. > > I think the way to make it work is to let autoload.el store the > autoload-excludes in the loaddefs.el file (as a special comment, > similar to the special comment listing the files that had no autoload > cookies). > Then autoload can compare the old list with the new one and force scan > any new unexcluded file, even if it's older than the timestamp. > > Tho, maybe just not storing the auto-excludes in the "no-autoloads" > section might be enough to do the trick. E.g. the patch below seems to > do the trick for me, I see that you have already committed it, and it has definitely improved the situation, but it is still necessary to run "make clean" when re-configuring "--without-x" (before your patch, only the brute "make maintainer-clean" would have done the trick). Sven From monnier@faina.iro.umontreal.ca Thu Dec 10 09:09:59 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 17:09:59 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (pruche.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.22]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBAH9vM7030293 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:58 -0800 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBAH9tEU005078; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:09:55 -0500 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 32EE93A008; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:09:55 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 5162@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris , Sven Joachim Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build Message-ID: References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:09:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:22:19 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3425=0 >> The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. > If that is true then it is a major bug. I thought so too at first, but I think it'll work. Of course, thre may still be scenario where it screws up somehow, but I can't hink of any: basically loaddefs.el is only used during the dump process, so it doesn't matter if it's build-specific. Stefan From whitebox@nefkom.net Thu Dec 10 09:17:59 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 17:17:59 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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I want a COLOR T.V. and a VIBRATING BED!!! Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:17:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:09:55 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stefan Monnier writes: >>> The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. >> If that is true then it is a major bug. > > I thought so too at first, but I think it'll work. Of course, thre may > still be scenario where it screws up somehow, but I can't hink of any: > basically loaddefs.el is only used during the dump process, so it > doesn't matter if it's build-specific. Then it should be moved out of the source directory (and not be distributed). Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il (mtaout21.012.net.il [80.179.55.169]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBAIrTn8008808 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:53:31 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KUG002008KO2D00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:53:23 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.213.252]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KUG00MRW9SXKUB0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:53:23 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:51:23 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andreas Schwab , 5162@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: rgm@gnu.org, svenjoac@gmx.de Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83ljha8xxw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:22:19 +0100 > Cc: 5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Sven Joachim > > Glenn Morris writes: > > > The with and without-x loaddefs.el files are no longer identical. > > If that is true then it is a major bug. I agree. Does anyone know why, and which change(s) caused this? From rgm@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 10:59:23 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 18:59:23 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBAIxLeC009293 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:59:22 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NIoER-0003NY-Un; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:59:20 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Andreas Schwab , 5162@debbugs.gnu.org, svenjoac@gmx.de Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83ljha8xxw.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Qaddafi cryptanalysis USCODE Compsec Saddam Hussein radar X-Ran: mf51d$a4F+n_Rs_BGa2-9+Kd`8sN`sSn?VDGsYp1-"AHrCRBcB\e;o]]Jk0lQJBte/!s5H X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:59:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83ljha8xxw.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:51:23 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I agree. Does anyone know why, and which change(s) caused this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-10/msg00117.html A discussion that most of the commenters on this bug were involved in, but this consequence was not appreciated till now. If no good solution can be found, it can be reverted at no great loss. From monnier@faina.iro.umontreal.ca Thu Dec 10 11:09:50 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 19:09:50 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca (chene.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBAJ9mXm010962 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:09:49 -0800 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBAJ9lca024818; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:09:47 -0500 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E94CD3A008; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:09:46 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Sven Joachim Cc: Glenn Morris , 5162@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build Message-ID: References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ws0v2kew.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:09:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ws0v2kew.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> (Sven Joachim's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:27:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3425=0 > I see that you have already committed it, and it has definitely improved > the situation, but it is still necessary to run "make clean" when > re-configuring "--without-x" (before your patch, only the brute > "make maintainer-clean" would have done the trick). Hmm... indeed it seems that the normal build procedure runs `cd lisp; make autoloads' only when lisp/loaddefs.el is missing and doesn't otherwise update the file. The patch below should fix that, tho at the cost of making the autoloads twice in the bootstrap case. Can you confirm it fixes the problem? Assuming it does, I'm not sure whether we should use such a patch as is, or whether we should "do it right" Stefan --- Makefile.in.~1.213.~ 2009-12-01 12:51:45.000000000 -0500 +++ Makefile.in 2009-12-10 13:26:49.000000000 -0500 @@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ # with "make -j" and results in more deterministic compilation warnings. # cus-load and finder-inf are not explicitly requested by anything, so # we add them here to make sure they get built. -all: compile-main $(lisp)/cus-load.el $(lisp)/finder-inf.el +all: autoloads compile-main $(lisp)/cus-load.el $(lisp)/finder-inf.el @: Let us check that we byte-compiled all the files. $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) compile-last EMACS=$(EMACS) From eliz@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 11:11:36 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 19:11:36 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il (mtaout22.012.net.il [80.179.55.172]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nBAJBYO2011333 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:11:36 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KUG003009TDHR00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:11:28 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.213.252]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KUG0016SAN1V270@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:11:26 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:09:29 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, 5162@debbugs.gnu.org, svenjoac@gmx.de Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83iqce8x3q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83ljha8xxw.fsf@gnu.org> > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Andreas Schwab , 5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, svenjoac@gmx.de > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:59:19 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I agree. Does anyone know why, and which change(s) caused this? > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-10/msg00117.html Thanks for the reminder. > If no good solution can be found, it can be reverted at no great loss. Maybe we should. Having loaddefs.el depend on the particulars of the build will definitely open a can of worms, because *.el files are generally considered architecture and build independent. For example, does it still work to invoke Emacs built with X with the -nw option? In general, if some build-dependent set of autoloads is skipped, then how can we be sure that a binary which supports two different configurations will work? From svenjoac@gmx.de Thu Dec 10 14:22:35 2009 Received: (at 5162) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Dec 2009 22:22:35 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with SMTP id nBAMMXUP004191 for <5162@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:22:34 -0800 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Dec 2009 22:22:26 -0000 Received: from p54864824.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO turtle.gmx.de) [84.134.72.36] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 10 Dec 2009 23:22:26 +0100 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19sCk1haZZsSh3pb5q5Xnt3Kh2mdF0aL8feWODrbi QOGsW7bS142rgg Received: by turtle.gmx.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 21F1E354B6; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:22:27 +0100 (CET) From: Sven Joachim To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Glenn Morris , 5162@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ws0v2kew.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:22:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:09:46 -0500") Message-ID: <87r5r21nbx.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67 On 2009-12-10 20:09 +0100, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I see that you have already committed it, and it has definitely improved >> the situation, but it is still necessary to run "make clean" when >> re-configuring "--without-x" (before your patch, only the brute >> "make maintainer-clean" would have done the trick). > > Hmm... indeed it seems that the normal build procedure runs > `cd lisp; make autoloads' only when lisp/loaddefs.el is missing and > doesn't otherwise update the file. > > The patch below should fix that, tho at the cost of making the autoloads > twice in the bootstrap case. Can you confirm it fixes the problem? It doesn't, because Emacs is rebuilt first, using the outdated loaddefs.el, and the autoloads are only updated later. Sven From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:48:20 2025 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1NMvbj-0004ak-7U for mharc-bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:40:23 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NMvbh-0004Zy-8k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:40:21 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NMvbc-0004ZW-Q8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:40:20 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37804 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NMvbc-0004ZT-NW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:40:16 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50730) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NMvbc-0005aa-Dv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:40:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMvbP-0005h1-Ay; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:40:03 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Glenn Morris , 5162@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5162 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 5162-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5162.126145314321866 (code B ref 5162); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:40:03 +0000 Received: (at 5162) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2009 03:39:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMvaQ-0005gd-QD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:39:02 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMvaO-0005gI-S4 for 5162@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:39:01 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMvaL-0003yR-Fk; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:38:57 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 5162@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87y6lclc3q.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <84d42nbmzg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ws0v2kew.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <87r5r21nbx.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> X-Spook: ASIO CESID Abu Ghraib AIMSX dictionary S Box Guantanamo X-Ran: yQ2]z}it_ZYt^fqd:nU]yRk?;^0z{~[[zAv#YV}pp.&njoS (Sven Joachim's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:22:26 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:40:03 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: Subject: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: Glenn Morris , 5162@debbugs.gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:40:21 -0000 This change is pertinent to this issue, but does not seem to have been mentioned here: 2009-12-17 Andreas Schwab * emacs-lisp/autoload.el (batch-update-autoloads): Only exclude unconditionally preloaded files. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 01 13:06:50 2010 Received: (at 5162) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2010 17:06:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxNr0-0005Eu-Gt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:06:50 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po17.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.73]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxNqy-0005Ep-Et for 5162@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:06:49 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po17.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o31H6hZO001547 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:06:44 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D1135C055; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:06:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#5162: 23.1.90; display-time broken in non-X build Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:06:43 -0400 Message-ID: <87mxxnt84c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5162 Cc: 5162@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) > This change is pertinent to this issue, but does not seem to have been > mentioned here: > > 2009-12-17 Andreas Schwab > > * emacs-lisp/autoload.el (batch-update-autoloads): Only > exclude unconditionally preloaded files. Looks like the with-x and without-x builds now have the same loaddefs.el. 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