From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:25:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51459: 29.0.50; org-return and org-return-and-maybe-indent Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 10:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 51459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 51459@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.163541625829361 (code B ref -1); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 10:18:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2021 10:17:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51411 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mg2TZ-0007dU-OA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:17:38 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:45730) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mg2TW-0007dD-RX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:17:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53732) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mg2TV-0004AJ-Lr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:17:34 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:40215) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mg2TT-0003rq-Aq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:17:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.54] ([82.207.239.83]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Ml6du-1n5R3j2qrM-00lTBQ for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:17:27 +0200 From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Message-ID: <58f0c59d-d634-849b-05d4-e84eae9ab3a3@easy-emacs.de> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:17:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ZM2ufOwdXTjlNshrYA7haqERh7rGJUZMBgR5aKYjgoHq+uq0iRX YTjTT2PaRo4DOndjRPeOqWHdwYjLgptdrbpW895R0ARWXsxK68ikDFpxmf3hRBPqbyDHV8s w5iZ4muJE2vuqiGarW+snj3rVFpE4onXbS16/lmkMwCsgseEvJGea7NXAa8mSvFW5wu/iwo BLZd2O4WO0ptJx2LwlRag== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1K3yBTVcJDk=:XEO69uvCFHw7puMwMzmp3L zPzkOTeKkmKXP3sdfI5F13caaiE85eY8QkOGMmRWgn3Tx6VQsvNzZpT/8aAP9ABdMP4Y3j/F2 S5aRWzM0eZ7J8dfbyZn4lhQDDi6dDwNp8zZ0JW9mJPqU3K3+rKUmFKPLyJGIS/ydGG51xIala pX6BdYgXcuUbVdoYKwwpXAb6giD6CvimnSnkk77OuCrSw4rMU4tSNOx2tQS5T7VejjtOoMkWj PVrx9Ihx1p/M8A5xMlw4Ip/IIYej886JmGfrhpCc0ywGYiFMyLFJ+byGknPtm8jKlYi6c10Kk /VrI6qfhpa3T2GNKoxDJEBSR+rLE07jhgf6CVhKFJjhUw6kx3fnfTg4VIf65RAfGwSNhpUZ84 PQ3yeoUqW2114HHq738lwizO72rxHyWOu2HCTU1FZIy6STa15pNmaTDxU02NdueHZZranqxJD vsyRkaJtk9hoyisworj1QoiqnSSdp5an8qvo3Et/mezKDkbjfNYy/IQQaK+s3WUt3hJk6qj6+ fCYJAAxJx0S3nYvqT0Q4XK48CsCY8YFzouOFlrWqnER+p+0NsbCasT+iT++oUiVbmkegkmrnC b++j9vBsV3Ls6vlfV0+V7dHgrOiWl58ZmPcwnZMZfzogtmCJPomQBNJodv65TzJQ6uMeKeyf4 SobMYkvQ5DDuXJLpSZlh/SN8h2KaIyy4MLAfe8ZlCXvjxhMTYBpJsnZEg05f5iZdsO3VWEMiu tyjr/E4eLV2+dD5R Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.227.17.13; envelope-from=andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) With cursor at EOL at some org-mode buffer with * Foo neither RET (org-return &optional INDENT ARG INTERACTIVE) nor C-j (org-return-and-maybe-indent) does indent Doing M-x electric-indent-mode RET don't change that. When calling C-u RET, get "org--newline: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, (4)" When at start of second line now, TAB doesn't indent either. When in init-file (add-hook 'org-mode-hook (lambda () (electric-indent-mode -1))) (setq org-adapt-indentation t) C-j would indent. However, IMO doesn't make sense to require these extra config in order to get a reasonable behavior. ‘org-return-and-maybe-indent’ and ‘org-return’ should not provide the same,. One of them should indent, suggesting that with "indent" in its name. ^^+In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.32, cairo version 1.16.0)  of 2021-10-14 built on affe Repository revision: 64f9fdc812bb2e1f533ae294355d33396985e469 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000 System Description: Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS Configured using:  'configure --with-modules --with-mailutils' Configured features: ACL CAIRO FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK2 ZLIB Important settings:   value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8   locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Org Minor modes in effect:   tooltip-mode: t   global-eldoc-mode: t   show-paren-mode: t   electric-indent-mode: t   mouse-wheel-mode: t   tool-bar-mode: t   menu-bar-mode: t   file-name-shadow-mode: t   global-font-lock-mode: t   font-lock-mode: t   blink-cursor-mode: t   auto-composition-mode: t   auto-encryption-mode: t   auto-compression-mode: t   line-number-mode: t   indent-tabs-mode: t   transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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org-return and org-return-and-maybe-indent Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 13:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Cc: 51459@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51459-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51459.16354284424223 (code B ref 51459); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 13:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 51459) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2021 13:40:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51587 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mg5e6-000160-4O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 09:40:42 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f54.google.com ([209.85.128.54]:34627) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mg5e4-00015k-8A for 51459@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 09:40:40 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f54.google.com with SMTP id o4-20020a1c7504000000b0032cab7473caso4711916wmc.1 for <51459@debbugs.gnu.org>; 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Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amdahl30 ([2a01:e0a:253:fe0:2ef0:5dff:fed2:7b49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b19sm6787284wmj.9.2021.10.28.06.40.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec References: <58f0c59d-d634-849b-05d4-e84eae9ab3a3@easy-emacs.de> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 15:40:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <58f0c59d-d634-849b-05d4-e84eae9ab3a3@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?="'s message of "Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:17:26 +0200") Message-ID: <87cznp5ktq.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: > When in init-file > > (add-hook 'org-mode-hook (lambda () (electric-indent-mode -1))) > (setq org-adapt-indentation t) > > C-j would indent. > > However, IMO doesn't make sense to require these extra config in order > to get a reasonable behavior. And everything hinges on what one finds "reasonable". As discussed in bug#51167, in the wake of electric-indent-mode being honored in Org 9.4, plenty of people have come to emacs-orgmode to express that they did not expect RET to indent. Thus Org maintainers chose to change the default value of org-adapt-indentation for Org 9.5. Note that by default (electric-indent-mode t, org-adapt-indentation nil) RET *does* indent in some specific scenarios, e.g. "- list item RET" will indent (resp. with electric-indent-mode nil, "- list item C-j"), because Org assumes that you want to add a paragraph to your list item. To recap: - electric-indent-mode is enabled by default in Org, as it is globally in Emacs: hence RET indents, C-j does not. - org-adapt-indentation tells Org whether you want your documents to be hard-indented or not: starting with 9.5, they won't be by default. > When calling C-u RET, get "org--newline: Wrong type argument: > number-or-marker-p, (4)" That does look like a bug, however. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:25:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51459: C-u RET fails with "Wrong type argument" (was: bug#51459: 29.0.50; org-return and org-return-and-maybe-indent) Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 14:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 51459@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51459-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51459.163543281812893 (code B ref 51459); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 14:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 51459) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2021 14:53:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52915 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mg6mg-0003Lt-HX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 10:53:38 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com ([209.85.128.47]:37597) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mg6md-0003Lf-JL for 51459@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 10:53:36 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id y84-20020a1c7d57000000b00330cb84834fso420067wmc.2 for <51459@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 07:53:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eIg3xklylbJMOx5X/p8l8arxwV03JWreIqf+Wx0vgCs=; b=P5Ux6scNltOQhVQ6yaKphukcn+bRz4uHeoTW6OsKSpmuNmaDFeRCIg4fJ4PyseYKqr KS5njFU7n3qzgHjn8QIsNB34KCAk8u/uTd4SNQBrBvGZ6yz+//vRqkgFFIQaDRJ5U+2a TN44ZuPdbnb8h3uUF/mAl5eTBpDKiuWZQCMHvwNxrjsCcJjjLo9wgAIJvan41NdbvBT8 V9BsKqWkdl0NbAgmjbUPUOTxZ5zXGPmFzLvjSk440p8PKWlEqh+1lqVZrpl4Ovng57JI s3ibFsdeTjNqi+5rtrKHrHhABvmIDGcneRYAIYeMFEW6qYjdG97Lw0inTZB4/fsLkweG xNkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eIg3xklylbJMOx5X/p8l8arxwV03JWreIqf+Wx0vgCs=; b=ra2AP+35XzvP8+xmKCJ2sj+XVvnPKG8YKVKEbFsgnN0FgJzlLEkPkTF1TXKqOCBSpg 90YcgeIw4IK0zjhad+lcxZtR8LGNgtS3PPrEdc6MseEHxeZ1LHFElGX9hdA+KvJcCMOA /TopXM9ux1wXvOURPRX7h21YqNpXQ5iGk3jb9ApPrNwtp2lZBhVpZTHsNd/319sXSKjp 0nBAFm1p0T64/DuHL2zUAlYEUzftd7udIEwmXyfXNyUZxD+TZkDKPNcbAy8D1iJjQ1ga EIptQLMDvUCk8bykCCoiR08//+eAX5EeTVaniAbWBE+Pa7UTQIIrTZ6e5oNv38DPWFYa dhJg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530KQVAKI/mrRnDtjHi2c3ZpkeLP2aRfTxgEhomWkpkEQLOf8pPZ kT64QSkg26+nFFwnk6Z/PrA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx29TEicckNqvEel593hiDkS4LbuYFshOcPVaItQIx4ciOCFqE1HwLrqMxa+NtsXVZVtPZ7dw== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c04b:: with SMTP id u11mr12746973wmc.127.1635432809633; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 07:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amdahl30 ([2a01:e0a:253:fe0:2ef0:5dff:fed2:7b49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m2sm6351945wml.15.2021.10.28.07.53.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 07:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec References: <58f0c59d-d634-849b-05d4-e84eae9ab3a3@easy-emacs.de> <87cznp5ktq.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:53:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87cznp5ktq.fsf@gmail.com> ("=?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec"'s message of "Thu, 28 Oct 2021 15:40:33 +0200") Message-ID: <8735ol5hg7.fsf_-_@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) K=C3=A9vin Le Gouguec writes: >> When calling C-u RET, get "org--newline: Wrong type argument: >> number-or-marker-p, (4)" > > That does look like a bug, however. And it's not tied to Org, AFAICT. C-u RET borks in fundamental-mode as well, since ARG is (1) interactively obtained as a raw prefix argument (2) used in a numeric comparison: (defun newline (&optional arg interactive) [=E2=80=A6] (interactive "*P\np") (barf-if-buffer-read-only) (when (and arg (< arg 0)) IIUC this comparison comes from 2021-09-30 "Make `newline' check the argument earlier" (d1aacceae9); Lars, should there be a prefix-numeric-value or something thrown in there somewhere? From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:25:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51459: 29.0.50; org-return and org-return-and-maybe-indent Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Cc: 51459@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51459-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51459.163544369030570 (code B ref 51459); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 51459) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2021 17:54:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53098 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mg9c1-0007x0-RB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 13:54:50 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.131]:45953) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mg9c0-0007wm-Al for 51459@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 13:54:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.63] ([82.207.239.83]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N1OsF-1mmF5u1OIt-012sQz; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:54:41 +0200 References: <58f0c59d-d634-849b-05d4-e84eae9ab3a3@easy-emacs.de> <87cznp5ktq.fsf@gmail.com> From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:54:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87cznp5ktq.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YL4N62T5syOtjO9PoZ14epwJ3i4F/W/5ixjsgJwcpbeklzJMCWg V46XZgP/Twqgamdqr/oJZjTF7BdnaEPgWx4G14FqsXCmEtVL9ahTINGcdT7o7RXbeMFMBG8 AibE6Ku6gn3e/Yq36Ph1dE3TZuwh/6KyrTdJ343wgjPBWD8qOPkgIeMAdbsNVPItOyfotff P7DLWWxnbCqhmUB8hOY2g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:POpajHh+GAI=:6DCQXzak+/aSLUyMsbacDb 3+rja8T7u2kCvNXWw0MaH81kMoWDqK+kZMk9KcsZdv5N263vQr36yLoBTbPxU/dMVDuFVZlya bs8/ZiReP4Fc8K6yWGCe/PGEpwiuVMC1YXnpP57bkD8BvutCZd1rEPYA0avdBpXLUBuFN+w2X /uNY5nbhNDB5LzxH2kIon+fMwPUQyl+xc1kYRFhTcotG5oB26qXDqV0F66LIKPZ4sYXrBLfVG 9I0hJf0iZO4h99abc2l09Pu/mKZUls6OBLZnxRhitbfcCrhNjZJOucRzc/kioF+lijKSEycH8 Tnz4koTEgZjbKXc7+S2jzITC3o/0AaUSOPId3ax+aYo9KxAO1IfdO4OIO4P/VdSKgRo6jxcVi ke76ZCwbV01MBSJZqTmObiPrLGDinFaT+hofVwgh9eanKjxwpeDaHBFNjK6hFAd0CCOPM0No/ xUDC9BLoncEFcl5EbMhOH5FMAm0MlzfVQ7eRQCov7lcpk+/BcTsc8OzOoN/SXvEdw+YGiezpJ /CPJjxOLSSrZzdLRLy8r+Bw8YqN4cug7MbPQ6egF+OL72ied/OhwVoExGcrk/Bag2NQMe6/dK friJyeJS7DbkPA/0P3QvCrDiQOdEOIRMBD4XrjpaKUOUOn1Uf/DvmVO2ONGDB2UvAvBcs2kRS G1yu9OH78wLLg1wOBjnymTrUgpRoqbVepeNnijiQoaMZOFBUETiNpDRkXGVHr1YwVSAKtSB6z F2WrNLhKrZvk9vYe X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) On 28.10.21 15:40, Kévin Le Gouguec wrote: > Andreas Röhler writes: > >> When in init-file >> >> (add-hook 'org-mode-hook (lambda () (electric-indent-mode -1))) >> (setq org-adapt-indentation t) >> >> C-j would indent. >> >> However, IMO doesn't make sense to require these extra config in order >> to get a reasonable behavior. > And everything hinges on what one finds "reasonable". > > As discussed in bug#51167, in the wake of electric-indent-mode being > honored in Org 9.4, plenty of people have come to emacs-orgmode to > express that they did not expect RET to indent. Thus Org maintainers > chose to change the default value of org-adapt-indentation for Org 9.5. > > Note that by default (electric-indent-mode t, org-adapt-indentation nil) > RET *does* indent in some specific scenarios, e.g. "- list item RET" > will indent (resp. with electric-indent-mode nil, "- list item C-j"), > because Org assumes that you want to add a paragraph to your list item. > > To recap: > > - electric-indent-mode is enabled by default in Org, as it is globally > in Emacs: hence RET indents, C-j does not. > > - org-adapt-indentation tells Org whether you want your documents to be > hard-indented or not: starting with 9.5, they won't be by default. Censored as bug was making RET und C-j behave likewise, i.e. not indenting either. >> When calling C-u RET, get "org--newline: Wrong type argument: >> number-or-marker-p, (4)" > That does look like a bug, however. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:25:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51459: C-u RET fails with "Wrong type argument" Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 21:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Cc: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , 51459@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51459-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51459.163545715828199 (code B ref 51459); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 21:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 51459) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2021 21:39:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53419 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mgD7F-0007Kk-Pv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:39:17 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:38980) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mgD7E-0007KT-87 for 51459@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:39:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=x/+Jy7uLxHMniXOsQKCkyoMT84A0VZ8+CD0/WkEH6Nc=; b=cpGg2Hg34HmIZLJnDAAGBojcTM zo4Frqv2XJbboD5L6PvwIWA7WNTkx3vc7GRkFktcO6cCV7sa06ooPvzZKc39oKn9jVLvEK3XhUU8u WgXqWq+IoYMU/HxAKINYv30PJas/joryQPtHgBXoy5lh0JDqLcGW9GdPYIDd0HjAlfeI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mgD75-0001x2-IC; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 23:39:10 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <58f0c59d-d634-849b-05d4-e84eae9ab3a3@easy-emacs.de> <87cznp5ktq.fsf@gmail.com> <8735ol5hg7.fsf_-_@gmail.com> X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Dog Eat Dog_: "Shiny Toys" Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 23:39:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8735ol5hg7.fsf_-_@gmail.com> ("=?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec"'s message of "Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:53:28 +0200") Message-ID: <87r1c43k3o.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec writes: > IIUC this comparison comes from 2021-09-30 "Make `newline' check the > argument earlier" (d1aacceae9); Lars, should there be a > prefix-numeric-value or something thrown in there somewhere? 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