From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Thomas Klausner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 07:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.163436804514524 (code B ref -1); Sat, 16 Oct 2021 07:08:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2021 07:07:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40844 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbdmv-0003mC-92 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 03:07:25 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:47910) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbdmr-0003m3-VV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 03:07:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbdmq-0007eQ-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 03:07:21 -0400 Received: from gatalith.at ([2a03:4000:48:421::1]:58598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbdmn-0007Dh-2j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 03:07:18 -0400 Received: from yt.nih.at (213-47-13-4.cable.dynamic.surfer.at [213.47.13.4]) by gatalith.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE1E43909F7 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:07:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:07:12 +0200 From: Thomas Klausner Message-ID: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a03:4000:48:421::1; envelope-from=tk@giga.or.at; helo=gatalith.at X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Severity: wishlist Hi! Recently, in git head, the default name for the emacs.pdmp file changed to emacs-someverylonghexstring.pdmp (I think in commit e81f1faca4382ed5c8f15fec84fb7c900a5468f9). I don't know why this is preferred to the simple emacs.pdmp that was there before. I do not see a rationale in the commit messsage. I'm sending this mail because this filename causes problems for packagers who prefer maintaining static file lists to make sure exactly a known list of files is installed by a program. Can you explain why this was changed? Can it perhaps be changed back? Or is there an option to not use it? Thanks, Thomas From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 13:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Thomas Klausner Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163439185213084 (code B ref 51234); Sat, 16 Oct 2021 13:45:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2021 13:44:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41155 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbjyu-0003Oy-27 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:44:12 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbjyr-0003Oj-DL for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:44:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cQPfJoubdnrDWJFdM2yqKFrf5OCJVLCTl3qsSxMJVxQ=; b=oVLPnMAl2oV9To0QfLwaRR6BAE UObmeQ1lyN5Hrw9/AeljY2oQalAMZ7V6M+p5vBDfTiCW2tuKdaV4umIs9pBy0ZJaFeA/AJyh0QQMu OjGOk0AMM+r3l3P8Rh1KyZ5bYsfcoksBs3siYbAiEmjppHRnPuXe30eBSROhNH1yCL1c=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mbjyi-0008CQ-7M; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 15:44:02 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> X-Now-Playing: Heidi Berry's _Love_: "Bright As Day" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 15:43:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> (Thomas Klausner's message of "Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:07:12 +0200") Message-ID: <871r4l2ig1.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Thomas Klausner writes: > I don't know why this is preferred to the simple emacs.pdmp that was > there before. I do not see a rationale in the commit messsage. The commit message refers to bug#42790, which has the discussion. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Thomas Klausner writes: > I don't know why this is preferred to the simple emacs.pdmp that was > there before. I do not see a rationale in the commit messsage. The commit message refers to bug#42790, which has the discussion. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Thomas Klausner Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163454288230460 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 07:41:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45804 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNGr-0007vE-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 03:41:22 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48942) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNGp-0007ux-11 for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 03:41:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=SyukIiJ2ow/yonbhsJgcJVzTO5v1OON/Ou2/j7Id7ew=; b=nuupYgyVK5/mmoNd7saIUsAFnC r+aJeuuPE5bpc096mk9UELfds84gqOTOvs0gw9P/4XMmzry9wNSxTKLJtdIlMDjs2WYdVd/kSTOav qmiq3c68bRXKk6uOkuoAjDH8LCsL6CFvd94vtjIgnPrFTb6J/DCJabywbFVyVGgNzsL8=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNGg-0000ZW-8v; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:41:12 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> X-Now-Playing: Brokeback's _Looks At The Bird_: "Everywhere Down Here" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:41:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> (Thomas Klausner's message of "Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:07:12 +0200") Message-ID: <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Thomas Klausner writes: > I'm sending this mail because this filename causes problems for > packagers who prefer maintaining static file lists to make sure > exactly a known list of files is installed by a program. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Thomas Klausner writes: > I'm sending this mail because this filename causes problems for > packagers who prefer maintaining static file lists to make sure > exactly a known list of files is installed by a program. If you rename the file to "emacs.pdmp", Emacs will still find it, but I guess this isn't documented. We could also add a configure option to do this renaming automatically, I guess? 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Lars> If you rename the file to "emacs.pdmp", Emacs will still find it,= but I Lars> guess this isn't documented. We could also add a configure optio= n to do Lars> this renaming automatically, I guess? Yes, we don=CA=BCt have enough configure options, and our Makefiles are too simple /s Lars> Anybody got an opinion here? We should document the 'emacs.pdmp' thing, but after that isn=CA=BCt it a packaging issue? Whomever wants 'emacs.pdmp' just copies the actual pdmp file to that. Robert --=20 From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Robert Pluim Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, Thomas Klausner Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163454425217064 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 08:04:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45847 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNcy-0004RA-0Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:04:12 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49204) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNcv-0004Qv-Nt for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:04:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zC/iVhipPv0y8cRlFjEoyazi4QbA1AK/zZgwckp5YvU=; b=nAEec3YUPckyc7FKRUFLhg89CI O+ACZfjbEkxvFsj1AI020luvAtqc9cNinqkxLRodBiy4qlLuxtL8o1BJN360b5UJYOmOYqGReakFE OUVF5h6CJhSoXECEhYMy1+9OEYqxfRKUfU3/cLZw9utTJMkJvjqGrbPPRsrUD1uA887g=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNcn-0000kX-N5; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:04:03 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <877dea69ss.fsf@gmail.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEVjLCerdlLy26b9 +tT9/eIdEBLKsY3///8CkeGNAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+UKEggCD5ZniY8AAAG2SURB VDjLfdRNb9swDAZgRUVyrhfM91GAzq1o6NxVQs5OAPkcq4P+/08oScmuvXTzJYEfvKQ+rQ6A8rwo fkwwbyn1thR1gCFgCAvEQpBtmdUJhhiGiG8CH9i9pPTDFitAT6iJDycAmQG34NWdAQhMTfxe4OeS kMAXHI8CQLBLuApcqkKscHZUiQGWUiu0xCM8MxiAh1LlvsIugfCa0hnAPwC+ft8D0TO470H/O2H+ hqcG8B/Qu7XSiJcNhBiHCmNuYNSNwNNM7aHrlErp9E6jsi3hM5TSCRzHwnueGWJ8N875Wsqm1Iar d6PSnuFcm8t7bOAkkRmG7Z5XkCXR4NCZPZx4P3Qp2eY91ObW0hHOxe+glqIfA1vopTklaHp/LgI3 N/fUgypQot6PCpNByhx4edo8whZU3zf4SgDDla6U0oZWEXFJgCOYZAe5B2V8A1gOw5UuDsawlgLb YAK+OdRjFHAMNwFTu/sN6AZ8aXdwbUDNV5AeUwUaVmBIxxUsLcmUUeAyJjoKa4KgUM6Bk83m6ncB q6a560vp53mBXzTcQh+Z69xlhm4BKUXfEgagZi1R+M/YPatPYWrOsTREb00AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6 Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMTAtMThUMDg6MDI6MTQrMDA6MDDsdUqlAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAy MDIxLTEwLTE4VDA4OjAyOjE0KzAwOjAwnSjyGQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Brokeback's _Morse Code In The Modern Age: Across The Americas_: "Lives of the Rhythm Experts" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:04:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877dea69ss.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:01:39 +0200") Message-ID: <878ryqlpxq.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > We should document the 'emacs.pdmp' thing, but after that =?UTF-8?Q?isn=CA=BCt?= it a > packaging issue? Whomever wants 'emacs.pdmp' just copies the actual > pdmp file to that. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Robert Pluim writes: > We should document the 'emacs.pdmp' thing, but after that isn=CA=BCt it a > packaging issue? Whomever wants 'emacs.pdmp' just copies the actual > pdmp file to that. Sure. Where's a good place to document this so that Debian maintainers (etc) will find it? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, Thomas Klausner Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163454562327643 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 08:27:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45871 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNz4-0007Bn-Mp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:27:02 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f45.google.com ([209.85.221.45]:43800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNyz-0007BC-Ge for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:27:01 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f45.google.com with SMTP id r7so39843994wrc.10 for <51234@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 01:26:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HmAG9lTYnaAl94fGRqiSNAccDtBJgSk6YG+lexc5J3k=; b=SulOyyY+PCzk51ZagY3ovr9khhsejUk6MwSMdYKOfWRl5WD/n5SpG9gaC+IEBWxHFv dpzskwPrLIGk50g+15gwTK7ubh9eCmahOQeRagnd/bHn4FbbBqS5iYDHcLOWUBn2i8P+ +LRQMLdJZEhnx8tptMNtHyqqkkGIO8GpcxTbKTWYdFhz5+fyfF/CUD2b13I9YvKwKamB fJ51dG7+ebN5LTrN0QgWH81/buqqaeAJGIErTsn7MlkdJ8FfnlMcM0K4HsdGvJUVZw+Y cofyx1p7mx1/3MHus+Y3hCQmkZ8T+/rBX0crE2mEdJmU8wRu8ce0z5A50NyJtFoy0r5y mmlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HmAG9lTYnaAl94fGRqiSNAccDtBJgSk6YG+lexc5J3k=; b=awdvHc4T6qkY2jt6GZoZPJBGQcQnefw8+bmMP095dzl0gBztD2mkxXQTgmzZhD+bRk 3CPuuTzBOAzfNOIbVQFyghdMEYndx9Zbe/CuypmB9v1JWQmOyH8uVAw9Q4K+ArN5Oe7j /2+7F3pIimGiKEtSQDZC8k+hngFWAZ9PsTAYbLM4I6S4HMRMEkTR2ClZRExxDxnfVaSv q12N6fa5AIQNni5VzZ7AjELg1NtLkxjWZuAoRKIqFnfexPVANdJoXTyYNbZgvY0dTPTB n/NVsZAguIvgCO+RxR+CyS0DMT6R9hwaXMMuSqaOoV5ejUjRNKtY/rKbJgFpuGwxGVq0 H6Ig== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531rBLGJU6Vom+xH0YQ+Qr7eNBMr3HPukk0Hcp7S1ur8/b0pwg3F 7ZfBbVDxDbFv6mBlT/k5SgfeGap3eFA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzj4aajQhfcH6vO5dh3t7SKs1S78044Lu+goiXJPw2Eucr6GwTdo+ynVUCB+RHL9x0Z4ZNWyA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:fe0b:: with SMTP id n11mr34642671wrr.371.1634545611314; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 01:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u13sm3624346wri.50.2021.10.18.01.26.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 01:26:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <877dea69ss.fsf@gmail.com> <878ryqlpxq.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:26:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878ryqlpxq.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:04:01 +0200") Message-ID: <8735oy68mt.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:04:01 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Robert Pluim writes: >> We should document the 'emacs.pdmp' thing, but after that isn=CA=BCt= it a >> packaging issue? Whomever wants 'emacs.pdmp' just copies the actual >> pdmp file to that. Lars> Sure. Where's a good place to document this so that Debian maint= ainers Lars> (etc) will find it? etc/NEWS? This is an emacs-29 thing, no? That=CA=BCs where we announced the portable dumper itself. Robert --=20 From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Robert Pluim Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, Thomas Klausner Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163454680211326 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 08:46:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcOI6-0002wF-CS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:46:42 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49656) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcOHr-0002fp-9K for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:46:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=yxo+sf3L/am8bgXnWEob05A61OWJC+JuBongzVImYQE=; b=b0EJl9i0s2h7pf1x5utlmTh3KL SRbulv6aIt8i67xhAEkf/jspczE3CPdF+qCjanYI7rwqwIe9SHLM+1c6Lbd5bnm5jwthTqlRfjCk6 zLlvnnhfreIRLdH6retVvMUUGLu4Lbyi3dYYJO3UM4g7ISkQy9pNvVD0XvFtl3td2lJM=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcOHi-00014j-Gi; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:46:20 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <877dea69ss.fsf@gmail.com> <878ryqlpxq.fsf@gnus.org> <8735oy68mt.fsf@gmail.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUiISGnp6Ts7OeB gH7///8Ee2exAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UKEggtE5B67a0AAAGjSURBVDjLhZTbcQMx CEWx1cCCGgjrBmDpv7cAQo8kH9F4xpKPuDxlAHjdtT6N5g5i1QnpWuC+YBsEeCbgaYA3mwlsExkG iGTml5pOcENaY7d0B22DEESUNsAOEVKow1rvDZBRNpjRB8AJ5DAB96CXHRZwAPGrBtJafEacDrpZ Ow0qMLjtN2gLXAWaHU6Au/YRlEaFYqUTQIvqDQXWvoG6klRi3OmqTAjcxSPlkil7FwDBC7WucVOc ucNsZF6zrM7rB3hGmSOQd3hL8FVFJa+/X3pzBMdOpYAZowMTRUyLXlKXYeSoywcP58gdSSpwqGGB FzNjd4kMiodUeveY1NATfChF1uBpVC1ypTUlQ6t5xyyU8JDKEqmZ+jchxQTCvU1UlaGhPSfwq2Lq lXLFJ0dwj/cYLY8BHVxz8DLi6Ipng9TddAw+jbpkf/2ALGB4PKLRCmIKoCd4j1dBLuXZzsEPKYrf kUmgqlzATZicxKG12LhwjaGfkD41miFXe/aQ7uhjrAS8xpPrUr3iATJ43A/J6oG2SHWW58fb8D+I aO/fJfDf+gZS0F6CfPpjOQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0xMC0xOFQwODo0NToxOSsw MDowMN+nQ54AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTAtMThUMDg6NDU6MTkrMDA6MDCu+vsi AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Bundy K. Brown, Doug Scharin, James Warden's _Directions In Music_: "(untitled)" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:46:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8735oy68mt.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:26:50 +0200") Message-ID: <87mtn6k9et.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > etc/NEWS? This is an emacs-29 thing, no? =?UTF-8?Q?That=CA=BCs?= where we announced the > portable dumper itself. Yes, but it should be documented forever -- people will be wondering later, too. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Robert Pluim writes: > etc/NEWS? This is an emacs-29 thing, no? That=CA=BCs where we announced t= he > portable dumper itself. Yes, but it should be documented forever -- people will be wondering later, too. But I see that I forgot to mention it in NEWS, and it's definitely NEWS-worthy. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, Thomas Klausner Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163454731215221 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 08:55:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45957 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcOQJ-0003xP-SR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:55:12 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f41.google.com ([209.85.221.41]:34717) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcOQG-0003ww-9E for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:55:10 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f41.google.com with SMTP id y3so40080897wrl.1 for <51234@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 01:55:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xrsdFOdeteHRIDRWsPw2u80fEd/rl4FhY0dizRIAMdY=; b=U4hx3TfIgGK/Nrs/vuUMWymdJPIVp5cmqmGy3RvyjNC/bctkv2iD1QfEvoazvxgKFk oyF0sQnb+6KAKfEvtoZ6tFP6BN1sCWvb3Tpd9zlqYZa+D1OW7Wjx7qq/iTCcHJUVhRyn 3Ow/E0gsW6PLjs9Ys+Jn5h01lZn3gHyctKbbP+fugBVEPASwwnHoaJpvllCa3ccznlX8 +kZ5OMwLBAkoYD04YQMSpLNUrZuFP0RObSw4y+9/i9p7q6sLl6uQadKFf7PLd5Yt7UKq /uzaeWfN+rx2K9VssuOxSViHvc9YP9fnB43PGI16PoATSVNqJt1p4yTxPsg6Dw6hQRT9 BgKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xrsdFOdeteHRIDRWsPw2u80fEd/rl4FhY0dizRIAMdY=; b=nkk4AMCzODnjZVZWHR6QNNthMlOt8MOdnCRNcDbk5WxxW+cQWLsri3Wwb2nnfGzFhW z9LO93Lo4ULVUW1y7LBkG625pchHb1/clASkwOKHbRw4ASr2jVrhpCm2n8ZaRl4F5Bqw pfjpfN3kvWvdGrcCcYHiumAPxRn/Wyw0rLqwW2FI4UIbLaKEL6XJ2UwzPvg0L9whrn2V /rxsXx1NTH6cJEB65DWW+bsiUzOm3bM9gqmyexe7iMfSEH5il1ScVCxdZLMvBhwjfHmF vynezTiyTSkiZ1qEpzMQWmNLhr4saScmYET67/Oyg95oArF2SGeFYcEE8WQ/4kBB9PpL usxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532BAoZFMEkaXN+Y96/LS7jvfINRri480Cn6+0+nTKmv9d1FDbdI 8/DvxeOCzHarBy0tow0Ko9Ai1hyldCI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyoDfesVOQV/h8HqZDQ85DQLSbx+/mI7VIqG3BY0ZYOXDSvivPVkP0uI9vO+b+JELGDixS/mg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:bc42:: with SMTP id a2mr34486624wrh.4.1634547302000; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 01:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k10sm17335303wmr.32.2021.10.18.01.55.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 01:55:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <877dea69ss.fsf@gmail.com> <878ryqlpxq.fsf@gnus.org> <8735oy68mt.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtn6k9et.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:55:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mtn6k9et.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:46:18 +0200") Message-ID: <87y26q4srf.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:46:18 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Robert Pluim writes: >> etc/NEWS? This is an emacs-29 thing, no? That=CA=BCs where we announ= ced the >> portable dumper itself. Lars> Yes, but it should be documented forever -- people will be wonder= ing Lars> later, too. (info "(elisp) Building Emacs") Robert --=20 From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, tk@giga.or.at Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163456028020919 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 12:31:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46171 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRnT-0005RL-Q5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:31:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58738) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRnS-0005R7-LP for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:31:19 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37012) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRnM-0005Me-Ek; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:31:12 -0400 Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4230 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRnA-0005fZ-Vy; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:31:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:31:06 +0300 Message-Id: <83y26qecqd.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:41:09 +0200) References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:41:09 +0200 > Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org > > Thomas Klausner writes: > > > I'm sending this mail because this filename causes problems for > > packagers who prefer maintaining static file lists to make sure > > exactly a known list of files is installed by a program. > > If you rename the file to "emacs.pdmp", Emacs will still find it, but I > guess this isn't documented. We could also add a configure option to do > this renaming automatically, I guess? > > Anybody got an opinion here? Me, I wonder how will those distros code with the *.eln files, which also include hashes that aren't known in advance. Solving the issue with the pdumper file will still leave this other one, with many more files. So perhaps the distros will just have to adapt? From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, tk@giga.or.at Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163456029020942 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 12:31:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46174 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRne-0005Ri-2Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:31:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58780) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRnb-0005RV-Ul for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:31:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRnW-00068q-EN; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:31:22 -0400 Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4251 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRnT-0006QR-PP; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:31:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:31:26 +0300 Message-Id: <83wnmaecpt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:41:09 +0200) References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:41:09 +0200 > Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org > > Thomas Klausner writes: > > > I'm sending this mail because this filename causes problems for > > packagers who prefer maintaining static file lists to make sure > > exactly a known list of files is installed by a program. > > If you rename the file to "emacs.pdmp", Emacs will still find it, but I > guess this isn't documented. We could also add a configure option to do > this renaming automatically, I guess? > > Anybody got an opinion here? Me, I wonder how will those distros cope with the *.eln files, which also include hashes that aren't known in advance. Solving the issue with the pdumper file will still leave this other one, with many more files. So perhaps the distros will just have to adapt? From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Thomas Klausner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 51234@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163456044321178 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:35:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 12:34:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRq6-0005VW-Hy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:34:02 -0400 Received: from gatalith.at ([45.132.245.72]:59014) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcRpz-0005V3-QX for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:34:00 -0400 Received: from yt.nih.at (213-47-13-4.cable.dynamic.surfer.at [213.47.13.4]) by gatalith.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6040390A2F; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:33:53 +0200 From: Thomas Klausner Message-ID: <20211018123353.pmegcy53lajqmb2w@yt.nih.at> References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <83y26qecqd.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83y26qecqd.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 03:31:06PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Me, I wonder how will those distros code with the *.eln files, which > also include hashes that aren't known in advance. Solving the issue > with the pdumper file will still leave this other one, with many more > files. What are .eln files? I don't see any in the NetBSD build. Here are the files for the emacs-git package. https://github.com/NetBSD/pkgsrc-wip/tree/master/emacs-git The PLIST contains the files that get installed, the Makefile and options.mk contain any enable/disable arguments to configure. > So perhaps the distros will just have to adapt? I've changed the package to rename the emacs-*.pdmp file to emacs.pdmp. Thomas From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Thomas Klausner Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163456147022911 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 12:51:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46212 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcS6f-0005xR-7s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:51:10 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com ([209.85.221.43]:43726) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcS6Z-0005w9-UN for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:51:07 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id r7so41249918wrc.10 for <51234@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 05:51:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mLGKEAK08Epie/FhovtSV6b2zdsnxSSDPct6xogt1Q0=; b=gf1+CvKmslt4XPI6HTSB7DqVDWEIbLxekIGLXPGWpomRuI+d50kX9jSMjglcQMddc1 GkoWf/QVVFKUUxjlx2yixPRgwRbik5oL1Ak26BcX+ouT+ZD0j/DSREa6I+rtlL1Mswjx l/qsJQbqQ3WzYrVaTYmyryl6WJx8MNFVbzGodsptsEcPC5Ddrc+14YvvJYrbfi8CuJL/ vC9AOeiaYlOhQHr268eixJVswRkvFFiQyewFwjQg4OUnv6SkBQi023NkDngkw3zMpVMa SKSHE7wRIcjM8+l58xNF0kVpdhIGsFtphH5ddnS4rdESZi+hv11VtqqESkjlvWfCUBRx sULA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mLGKEAK08Epie/FhovtSV6b2zdsnxSSDPct6xogt1Q0=; b=0O+2Xu0JX1BIWALFqgO7P0HLwvjAqdfNJzwvJHaOlLEJRj4igrAkGyYxTb+1g+5sN5 k7JQ9wG+tVTq3pBOfBh77tQknxhTkf46R0L+VEaPRkO3allaqq0Zr+Zogm4ERzRnRw3z /8OZq/zDPl8mMwXcGBRPZqZi+82DFpUZ1+crcuORu2L+LcFj3IECwLlCwxEQrFqeAaQF Z7JGLQCII0j83CbC6lsFEA5EiY/tS5QAsRaMifNmZmoOnwWQ+W0+JohuO/aZri5j1xNp rRWxBGS6cmLuC+dwGCRitqRZcPGVmszWaWCLLEedc6Qg0DkiRKiVTAuPBiNo9RekKGgo 8NJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530XtabBVgU2abGcD6W+8Qgrsf1tt7tn43plBHkeo6OqJbcOl+kJ zCcsEIERV2VJ75SeyX219OsYkZx/KLs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy0+wC+a+mQ3okK4dRLnnif+8fjTW3mc/iSPJYtajP5e1Nyqwwdu0W008jT9HUs85V4XzZhuw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ff91:: with SMTP id j17mr34267455wrr.132.1634561457724; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 05:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k13sm8291135wrp.86.2021.10.18.05.50.56 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 05:50:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <83y26qecqd.fsf@gnu.org> <20211018123353.pmegcy53lajqmb2w@yt.nih.at> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:50:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20211018123353.pmegcy53lajqmb2w@yt.nih.at> (Thomas Klausner's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:33:53 +0200") Message-ID: <87mtn64hu7.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:33:53 +0200, Thomas Klausner s= aid: Thomas> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 03:31:06PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Me, I wonder how will those distros code with the *.eln files, which >> also include hashes that aren't known in advance. Solving the issue >> with the pdumper file will still leave this other one, with many more >> files. Thomas> What are .eln files? I don't see any in the NetBSD build. They=CA=BCre the output of the native lisp compiler, which will only get generated if you successfully configure '--with-native-compilation'. See etc/NEWS for details. Robert --=20 From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Thomas Klausner Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 51234@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163456253224611 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:09:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 13:08:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46242 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSNo-0006Ot-Ky for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:08:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40248) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSNk-0006Oa-O1 for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:08:51 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38510) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSNd-0005V1-Sc; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:08:41 -0400 Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2639 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSNd-0007jo-FX; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:08:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 16:08:48 +0300 Message-Id: <83k0iaeazj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <20211018123353.pmegcy53lajqmb2w@yt.nih.at> (message from Thomas Klausner on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:33:53 +0200) References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <83y26qecqd.fsf@gnu.org> <20211018123353.pmegcy53lajqmb2w@yt.nih.at> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:33:53 +0200 > From: Thomas Klausner > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 51234@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 03:31:06PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Me, I wonder how will those distros code with the *.eln files, which > > also include hashes that aren't known in advance. Solving the issue > > with the pdumper file will still leave this other one, with many more > > files. > > What are .eln files? I don't see any in the NetBSD build. You didn't configure --with-native-compilation, I guess? From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Robert Pluim Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, Thomas Klausner Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163456284925106 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 13:14:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46246 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSSv-0006Ws-8o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:14:09 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51772) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSSp-0006W9-HJ for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:14:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=imU2R0xmd8gRZAY/UvuR/YPu5IT/p8o8tfseHaM4zV4=; b=q8jm094Uss9JuBG5lzR6Nlh8zQ pl3h/aNxjsSqOE/vUz6CnqTiaZtSMy0iFr4RF8TojYn0N79OI2Cqp8YW3N9jmE7yUchlB+Q+kboW4 7ImisqqLJRzpcITDbPvpT4EnhFlEluGYL+Px5IxB0xEKDZyUbln3K0CtuJWFt0hHdsbI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSSg-0002uk-Ll; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:13:57 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <877dea69ss.fsf@gmail.com> <878ryqlpxq.fsf@gnus.org> <8735oy68mt.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtn6k9et.fsf@gnus.org> <87y26q4srf.fsf@gmail.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAJ1BMVEUpKzQlHCJUSVRq W2M9PkWSf35LOUNHMjaQb2nUxbpiPDgSCQ3///8I6jgYAAAAAWJLR0QMgbNRYwAAAAd0SU1FB+UK Eg0MGxT1spcAAAGmSURBVDjL1dM7T8MwEABgp0h45cQQRJbqXKUwElNUGFv6A1BVibJRJHdNiqh5 jB2AjlQR7QgLSCxk9p/jkpJXYUbipos/Xew72Yz9i4CNPK/IJDz8jloKnWRZLEVI2U2L2gJRMTZk FgBwrWQO0nPVWPmMWUwrMSkAukppSi2uB1iqwCUAV+iVAdWQfsU4yhw6dBI6j0pg0Pwd9Kg5yTaP +yBwNfP5WMiHbhnqA805QfN0Ba7rQ9/XP8HtP6lRaI9FozfLN594QixCvrs40eKxV6qQB/1ndRND Y1IGT/iKhba+kF632AeVHLCx7fNXURg7JiKDnTo1gj9gDjehzzQWpos0UXlIsNhbBRReP4YX4CuA nOCKAEZlOLdjCD8isHURqmA/zpzr+Z0BOxAFoPvROHO2Th0TgZWC1cYAnOh96mxOY4AMOtWIFi7v zfaRYwzARVZh6NvcvpnPN0oi5zLdo2XisAMTBUm2llYsAWjV+Q2i+DdJVknh2JRjM+tjXWsaK91E P/nOGqxgOarZk7Ly50UjKLw7uV94dp7IoZUXV2qtY/ZX8QWQ5K73hUHsMwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpj cmVhdGUAMjAyMS0xMC0xOFQxMzoxMjoyNyswMDowMOha1s4AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIw MjEtMTAtMThUMTM6MTI6MjcrMDA6MDCZB25yAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Deru's _Pushing Air_: "You Haunt Me" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:13:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y26q4srf.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:55:00 +0200") Message-ID: <871r4ijx0u.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > Lars> Yes, but it should be documented forever -- people will be wondering > Lars> later, too. > > (info "(elisp) Building Emacs") Yes, I guess... Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Robert Pluim writes: > Lars> Yes, but it should be documented forever -- people will be wondering > Lars> later, too. > > (info "(elisp) Building Emacs") Yes, I guess... Eli Zaretskii writes: > Me, I wonder how will those distros code with the *.eln files, which > also include hashes that aren't known in advance. Solving the issue > with the pdumper file will still leave this other one, with many more > files. > > So perhaps the distros will just have to adapt? That's a good point. So perhaps we shouldn't document how to get to a known-name setup, because that won't work for nativecomp? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, tk@giga.or.at Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.16345646283694 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:44:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 13:43:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46292 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSvc-0000xW-F1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:43:48 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:52396) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSvX-0000xL-SC for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:43:47 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4HXyl24wSDz1qwyZ; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:43:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4HXyl234kXz1qqkC; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:43:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mWMYIDXhYcG0; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:43:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: Xi/RMGZ+a38NuOTYL8a5X6I8lSkXX5NKoE0GKWG2pRVYy8G5EPncq9iqMzdMg50H Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-164-57.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.164.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 07F0E2C28B0; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:43:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnmaecpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: What's the MATTER Sid?.. Is your BEVERAGE unsatisfactory? Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:43:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83wnmaecpt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:31:26 +0300") Message-ID: <87bl3mfnxu.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) On Okt 18 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Me, I wonder how will those distros cope with the *.eln files, which > also include hashes that aren't known in advance. Packagers like RPM can cope with that by using wildcards. They can also generate file lists on the fly. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, tk@giga.or.at Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163456662117059 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 14:17:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48213 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcTRl-0004R4-2w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:17:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59736) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcTRj-0004Qp-53 for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:16:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41984) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcTRc-0000Y0-KA; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:16:52 -0400 Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2876 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcTRc-0000QW-7y; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:16:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:16:58 +0300 Message-Id: <83czo2e7tx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871r4ijx0u.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:13:53 +0200) References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <877dea69ss.fsf@gmail.com> <878ryqlpxq.fsf@gnus.org> <8735oy68mt.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtn6k9et.fsf@gnus.org> <87y26q4srf.fsf@gmail.com> <871r4ijx0u.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:13:53 +0200 > Cc: 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, Thomas Klausner > > > Me, I wonder how will those distros code with the *.eln files, which > > also include hashes that aren't known in advance. Solving the issue > > with the pdumper file will still leave this other one, with many more > > files. > > > > So perhaps the distros will just have to adapt? > > That's a good point. So perhaps we shouldn't document how to get to a > known-name setup, because that won't work for nativecomp? That's what I think. The actual problem is much larger than just one file. From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Andreas Schwab Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii , 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, tk@giga.or.at Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163458058724158 (code B ref 51234); Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2021 18:09:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcX4y-0006HX-3R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:09:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58778) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcX4i-0006H6-B4 for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:09:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcX4b-0006Li-4L; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:09:21 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcX4Y-0002F6-St; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:09:19 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnmaecpt.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl3mfnxu.fsf@igel.home> X-Spook: Mavricks SACLANT Spillover Cops Antiviral AT&T Security X-Ran: ,[g#4hx;QD[_}lae0!*nQA?S,o?=i?n7;j3Uq^%uPH1A@("~jzqvn!^{kC!|q:z/e3oU>q X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:09:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bl3mfnxu.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:43:41 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Okt 18 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Me, I wonder how will those distros cope with the *.eln files, which >> also include hashes that aren't known in advance. > > Packagers like RPM can cope with that by using wildcards. They can also > generate file lists on the fly. I feel like +1'ing this. Plus they also warn if there are installed but unpackaged files, so there isn't really a pressing need to announce/document the name change. I see no need to add an option to revert to "emacs.pdmp". >>> I've changed the package to rename the emacs-*.pdmp file to emacs.pdmp. A mistake IMO. From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:49:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51234: emacs.pdmp file name (--fingerprint) Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 20:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51234 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 51234@debbugs.gnu.org, tk@giga.or.at Received: via spool by 51234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51234.163467614030660 (code B ref 51234); Tue, 19 Oct 2021 20:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 51234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2021 20:42:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcvwB-0007yS-PH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:42:19 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39272) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcvw9-0007yB-Fq for 51234@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:42:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FmxvXP6OB80WYTYxLB9+1s0WqvWW4LQsbmyaJLpt0E4=; b=Lc4Q/JAQZsG8Sk4zY6SbNJPfcG noXuzTyoCa5TAU8sNQf+pbF9rEdLZ/4lSmAWRNDN5/qdkEY/Neqn0HeTHvUogBuxgX7YGZ9b3Po7c q40zf7DO3w+xOvbWOjkLDSAUxRtCbpP9fY5ZBHMd8lp21Wl12wGJE0Inn6Wo3vXOJvQ4=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcvw0-0000sW-NU; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 22:42:11 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <20211016070712.dlt3fygxl34mp5op@yt.nih.at> <871r4in5ka.fsf@gnus.org> <877dea69ss.fsf@gmail.com> <878ryqlpxq.fsf@gnus.org> <8735oy68mt.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtn6k9et.fsf@gnus.org> <87y26q4srf.fsf@gmail.com> <871r4ijx0u.fsf@gnus.org> <83czo2e7tx.fsf@gnu.org> X-Now-Playing: Band Apart's _Band Apart_: "Eve Ryonne" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 22:42:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83czo2e7tx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:16:58 +0300") Message-ID: <875ytsbvbz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> That's a good point. So perhaps we shouldn't document how to get to a >> known-name setup, because that won't work for nativecomp? > > That's what I think. The actual problem is much larger than ju [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> That's a good point. So perhaps we shouldn't document how to get to a >> known-name setup, because that won't work for nativecomp? > > That's what I think. The actual problem is much larger than just one > file. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: close 51234 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 51234 quit