From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:38:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51180: 29.0.50; Non-compiled file loaded with M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load Resent-From: miha@kamnitnik.top Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 51180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 51180@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16341242386802 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:24:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2021 11:23:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58594 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1macMW-0001lX-Uy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 07:23:58 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1macMS-0001lI-Dq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 07:23:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1macMS-0007R6-6e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 07:23:52 -0400 Received: from kamnitnik.top ([209.250.245.214]:58980) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1macMM-0005pY-VW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 07:23:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (BSN-77-156-43.static.siol.net [193.77.156.43]) by kamnitnik.top (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 824809CFAE for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:23:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kamnitnik.top; s=mail; t=1634124224; bh=hvQg8rq0jwNBMZvhiFkNkn1IEPB4fNrPafR3JMud+P0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=kMyjmiQcNX4zvpbkaAIZ4S51o4J+A4RpIG8yQ9P8+JSQyVrK4SAsIZ6N4TSF2mA1O s52rHlWJ0Oi3217CnUIwc5EJ+zS47xaJKvi65Rg6AdofbClT6/PdIrMIj2ySy0F1oa PIjRUJBc1r3gDF9/J1D6X2QBXXp5fRM5+K5d//noxYToiPOj7QauxcFS93stJ0PQ/e FOBGW78x9570BSl/1+Qxmdk92XU2fg+JbziharxtQhfJyzzI4E03JiGf0alxr6ObXW QJp+nds4S54AS+okvZtBfDjQhFrPcTofEWExBVaiGbF+bO61W4sgHbwFPPGt1w4I03 AFDbT3BX3c56Q== From: miha@kamnitnik.top Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:27:24 +0200 Message-ID: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.250.245.214; envelope-from=miha@kamnitnik.top; helo=kamnitnik.top X-Spam_score_int: 24 X-Spam_score: 2.4 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD=0.499, FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD_FP=1.999, PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD=1.999, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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I believe this is a regression introduced in git commit 4a575eb18cca3eed5019f2d2d2abeea1f0c07005 (Tue Oct 20 18:48:27 2020 [...] Content analysis details: (1.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: kamnitnik.top (top)] 0.9 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom; id=miha%40kamnitnik.top; ip=209.51.188.17; r=debbugs.gnu.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.51.188.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: kamnitnik.top] 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD_FP From abused NTLD 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load loads the ".el" file instead of ".elc". I believe this is a regression introduced in git commit 4a575eb18cca3eed5019f2d2d2abeea1f0c07005 (Tue Oct 20 18:48:27 2020 +0200) Best regards. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 6, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.30, c= airo version 1.17.4) of 2021-10-12 built on t400-pc Repository revision: 5588617a7ec4e16d3cf10a66f0203f92a61e7d5a Repository branch: dokaj-stabilen Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12013000 System Description: Artix Linux Configured using: 'configure --prefix=3D/usr --without-libsystemd' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: ELisp/l Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t vertico-indexed-mode: t vertico-mode: t mlscroll-mode: t bug-reference-prog-mode: t lispy-mode: t highlight-defined-mode: t rainbow-delimiters-mode: t dap-mode: t yas-global-mode: t yas-minor-mode: t gcmh-mode: t 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(TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1macdy-0007kw-QP; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:42:01 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> X-Now-Playing: Alasdair Roberts og =?UTF-8?Q?V=C3=B6lvur's?= _The Old Fabled River_: "Nu solen =?UTF-8?Q?g=C3=A5r?= ned" Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:41:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> (miha@kamnitnik.top's message of "Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:27:24 +0200") Message-ID: <87v9216tix.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: miha@kamnitnik.top writes: > M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load loads the ".el" file instead of > ".elc". I believe this is a regression introduced in git commit > 4a575eb18cca3eed5019f2d2d2abeea1f0c07005 > (Tue Oct 20 18:48: [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) miha@kamnitnik.top writes: > M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load loads the ".el" file instead of > ".elc". I believe this is a regression introduced in git commit > 4a575eb18cca3eed5019f2d2d2abeea1f0c07005 > (Tue Oct 20 18:48:27 2020 +0200) Yup. This is now fixed in emacs-28. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 13 07:42:15 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2021 11:42:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1maceE-0004PS-Ma for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 07:42:14 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49708) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1maceD-0004P3-IO for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 07:42:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6Sbg3V6eJomym7oflbRpQKBX18CtyXn6CJ01fIgVU+U=; b=n8JRo2swVyS00G355RF4rG1yVa ZiIyCjTN6u3U+6kJ9zb+DtLusoaI+EDc5SVpKb2XpZMD9MCg8gB3X8lQA/sCPR/ZrKNZZRSOuVKwx Lkcg8EmzCbkGNkLePqeIhV6Az4V5gqSHul6WrA5OcOEF+Si+BMrF111mDZHrs+zAZNNs=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mace6-0007l9-2D for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:42:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:42:05 +0200 Message-Id: <87tuhl6tiq.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #51180 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 51180 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 51180 28.1 quit From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:38:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51180: M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 51180@debbugs.gnu.org, miha@kamnitnik.top Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 51180-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51180.16342501612413 (code B ref 51180); Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 51180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2021 22:22:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37282 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mb97Y-0000cp-N2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mb97V-0000c3-N7 for 51180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb97O-0005ya-4P; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:31 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb97K-0006X9-3X; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:26 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87v9216tix.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:41:58 +0200) References: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> <87v9216tix.fsf@gnus.org> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:26 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Is it worth having a function emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load? It surely is not used often. Does it simplify programs enough to outweigh the added complecity of defining and docuenting it? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:38:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51180: M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: 51180@debbugs.gnu.org, miha@kamnitnik.top Received: via spool by 51180-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51180.16342504243819 (code B ref 51180); Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 51180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2021 22:27:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37289 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mb9Bn-0000zP-KY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:27:03 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mb9Bj-0000yK-S8 for 51180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:27:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6lh99KWjJFl2DiE9U4tnbFcx45qqCZQ0x8bFXIVAVUQ=; b=tO9Ek3tQXqORkC8pNIPlnpviEL SE8GsWSVlVZDX69nJOwuNtnbIanjvXb3UWDHktYPzXmyRb2dM/ONVIWA/GtAEAUOag83HfFAxlY4W M/mwGmmzARS2CIo9B4k1he/gwuKlXGILctgxcJ5BwuzWFi2ZHV5qZCg1HN3EvvY9PdiA=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mb9Ba-0006KG-Gw; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 00:26:53 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> <87v9216tix.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: new's _Nattsyntese_: "Betenkningstid med trommesolo" Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 00:26:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:26 -0400") Message-ID: <875ytztf85.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Richard Stallman writes: > Is it worth having a function emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load? > It surely is not used often. > Does it simplify programs enough > to outweigh the added complecity of defining and docuenting it? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Richard Stallman writes: > Is it worth having a function emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load? > It surely is not used often. > Does it simplify programs enough > to outweigh the added complecity of defining and docuenting it? It is defined and documented, so I'm not sure what you're asking. And it seems useful to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:38:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51180: M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load Resent-From: Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 51180@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 51180-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51180.16342514769440 (code B ref 51180); Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:45:01 +0000 Received: (at 51180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2021 22:44:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37304 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mb9Sl-0002SB-Od for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:44:35 -0400 Received: from kamnitnik.top ([209.250.245.214]:38104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mb9Sh-0002Rg-Jg for 51180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:44:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (BSN-77-156-43.static.siol.net [193.77.156.43]) by kamnitnik.top (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2836D9CFA8; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:44:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kamnitnik.top; s=mail; t=1634251470; bh=t223NNuznPh242CP/UwrzYKgX9Ekm+BQYvkk9pt7euA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=gtwF6t94E3zKe4cPCCTvCYc9AkZdpQQGgvfKzSrg62JrEgX1Du6pGCQczmI8It/oO f7En4kBcK9dGAJaUC1pypUGNHqXau5+pnlDjgS/edVuZzT74Ywg9oObUTfm8S7tnBB fGedB3zfSpgAFTKK+Hj8YvguL45e+26kmHhI54t739n7PXhmFkBySpjPewivvgocX6 FawI6e2UbqtjTZvOobadqXiIbT3KN4Go6oAd9LnmlryGJm6B2UUaA17a2FnGBg5UAx 2JdwTZThetoWWVh5GdN378V0L1uuP2NmY8A7fnirlwNR17r0fx0iIC2aCTfTitQFWQ r2/nfCqx88jQg== From: In-Reply-To: References: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> <87v9216tix.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 00:48:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87ilxzb4us.fsf@miha-pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's e [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: kamnitnik.top (top)] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Is it worth having a function emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load? > It surely is not used often. > Does it simplify programs enough > to outweigh the added complecity of defining and docuenting it? I personally use it as an interactive command after making adjustments to a .el file. And it even conveniently asks me if I want to save the buffer, so I personally think it's nice. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJHBAEBCAAxFiEEmxVnesoT5rQXvVXnswkaGpIVmT8FAmFos6sTHG1paGFAa2Ft bml0bmlrLnRvcAAKCRCzCRoakhWZP9+zD/9BLDMIFqROhoRFnxkInJYO7O/87KnF 6kdGF7pK9xj5hm5qu7ySDKFYOEfbbYMSwRuOQH9BVndT/SADzrAWoqDBJiE0GIf7 NODtagWL2Tq3WGciBgNIZ2FcrDcU2MuEJRbrihup64UnfZlGpQymnCyTW59pvyLG IlIiYyOo+8GyjR0GvXzZTjttazjl2Oaoe2pA3jzye2jLKE8CURg/qvt2wT7RvOTl sg4xsHldqAREkSNtsqQwwyyNJyyGjfdWy4xVUktO4F7ZG4ls27asPQEEEQB3KJwa YCBqhpozmD5hLw7QC+VIK1n/rcaFX9MewW3jFuTY2zukK1N2IDjaYOwIJLTiULs0 GdGdA8g+lHz4e5OonnqL5EzTbN+swn1h4bsmz90ExRLg2lkarz5/c0kb0VALdd/7 i63kLIZYrPznQJBI1RChtIb/yC9J2BgMkQYWprTi3djh0Wxy9C8IvfK2AqSELK1a WrH+9BE20+GZsEoVyMJ8dkkT03txiRJYzNLjrqllbzhDF//0Ya2dYlWVDN3J+UBg FhnaYfdUd85e9Xf+EehQDATH+gEXaY5dDuFsRwNb9ZbfU6yDSZpb2aaoPy4jPxKv KhBOyOxxMjXeMhEW0LcRtX42xE0Tgc4zCfXE9IDMMHk+nZV1YgUoH7JVIb+xM9yG WH/cjXghhcRz2Q== =cCL/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:38:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51180: M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 06:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 51180@debbugs.gnu.org, miha@kamnitnik.top Received: via spool by 51180-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51180.163427915226704 (code B ref 51180); Fri, 15 Oct 2021 06:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 51180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2021 06:25:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbGf9-0006wd-UC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 02:25:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56822) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbGf7-0006wP-8q for 51180@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 02:25:50 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbGf1-00056B-Ew; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 02:25:43 -0400 Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4201 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbGeO-0007F3-NT; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 02:25:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:25:02 +0300 Message-Id: <83pms6kdoh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:26 -0400) References: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> <87v9216tix.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:26 -0400 > Cc: 51180@debbugs.gnu.org, miha@kamnitnik.top > > Is it worth having a function emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load? It's a command, and we deemed it important enough to have it in the Emacs-Lisp menu when the current buffer visits an Emacs Lisp file. > It surely is not used often. It is extremely useful when you work on some Lisp program and want to test it in the same session. > Does it simplify programs enough > to outweigh the added complecity of defining and docuenting it? Not programs, but interactive use of ELisp. From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:38:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#51180: M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 22:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 51180@debbugs.gnu.org, miha@kamnitnik.top Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 51180-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51180.163433805831136 (code B ref 51180); Fri, 15 Oct 2021 22:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 51180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2021 22:47:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40567 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVzF-000866-NB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51348) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVzD-00085M-W4 for 51180@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVz7-0005Cl-Rh; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:29 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVz7-0000ik-Ng; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:29 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <875ytztf85.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 15 Oct 2021 00:26:50 +0200) References: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> <87v9216tix.fsf@gnus.org> <875ytztf85.fsf@gnus.org> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:29 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Does it simplify programs enough > > to outweigh the added complecity of defining and docuenting it? > It is defined and documented, so I'm not sure what you're asking. I was going to suggest we should raise our threshold, in general, for adding a simple "convenience" function. However, I see that this exists for the sake of a menu binding. I think that's reasonable. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)