From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Reply-To: John Heidemann , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: John Heidemann Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:50:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121486228516161 (code B ref -1); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:50:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_20,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Jun 2008 21:44:45 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5ULifwX016155 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:44:42 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KDRAu-0002xN-2b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KDRAt-0002ww-Hc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:39 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53282 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KDRAt-0002wq-D6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:39 -0400 Received: from vir.isi.edu ([128.9.160.91]:52530) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KDRAt-0004N4-0c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:39 -0400 Received: from dash.isi.edu (dash.isi.edu [128.9.160.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by vir.isi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5ULiY0f031825 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:44:34 -0700 Received: from dash.isi.edu (localhost.isi.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dash.isi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5ULhANX004759 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:43:11 -0700 X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:43:10 -0700 Message-ID: <4758.1214862190@dash.isi.edu> From: John Heidemann X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) This note is a follow-up to a 2006 post I made suggesting notes-mode for inclusion in emacs. At the time (2006) I was told that emacs-22's release was pending and it was in feature freeze. emacs-22 has been out for a while now, so I thought it was worth trying again. I just did a new release (1.26) today, the first since Jan. 2006, so it's been very stable, and all collected to date are rolled in. Are the emacs maintainers now interested in picking up this package? -John Heidemann On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:37:37 PST, John Heidemann wrote: > >Notes-mode is a note taking package in emacs. >It includes documentation and has been in use for over 10 years >by me and is currently used by (at least) dozens of people. >See >for details. > >In 2000 I had discussions with bug-gnu-emacs about adding this package >to emacs. Impressions were good, except we got stuck on a particular >technical point (about how perl is configured). This technical point >has now been resolved in the most recent release. > >Are the emacs maintainers still interested in picking up this package? > > -John Heidemann > From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: patch Received: via spool by 511-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B511.121684915422544 (code B ref 511); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:45:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 511) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Jul 2008 21:39:14 +0000 Received: from cyd (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6NLdBGe022538 for <511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:39:12 -0700 Received: by cyd (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3278457E32C; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:40:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: John Heidemann Cc: 511@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:40:33 -0400 Message-ID: <8763qw5lf2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > This note is a follow-up to a 2006 post I made suggesting notes-mode > for inclusion in emacs. At the time (2006) I was told that emacs-22's > release was pending and it was in feature freeze. > > emacs-22 has been out for a while now, so I thought it was worth > trying again. I just did a new release (1.26) today, the first since > Jan. 2006, so it's been very stable, and all collected to date are > rolled in. > > Are the emacs maintainers now interested in picking up this package? I understand that you already have a copyright assignment, correct? How about the other contributors to this package, if any? From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Reply-To: John Heidemann , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: John Heidemann Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: patch Received: via spool by 511-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B511.121687245221898 (code B ref 511); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:15:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 511) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jul 2008 04:07:32 +0000 Received: from vir.isi.edu (vir.isi.edu [128.9.160.91]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6O47Qw2021891 for <511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:27 -0700 Received: from dash.isi.edu (dsl081-035-114.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.35.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by vir.isi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6O47JnT025008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:20 -0700 Received: from dash.isi.edu (localhost.isi.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dash.isi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6O46oI1007102; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:06:51 -0700 X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/ To: Chong Yidong Cc: 511@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: <8763qw5lf2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:06:50 -0700 Message-ID: <7100.1216872410@dash.isi.edu> From: John Heidemann On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:40:33 EDT, Chong Yidong wrote: >> This note is a follow-up to a 2006 post I made suggesting notes-mode >> for inclusion in emacs. At the time (2006) I was told that emacs-22's >> release was pending and it was in feature freeze. >> >> emacs-22 has been out for a while now, so I thought it was worth >> trying again. I just did a new release (1.26) today, the first since >> Jan. 2006, so it's been very stable, and all collected to date are >> rolled in. >> >> Are the emacs maintainers now interested in picking up this package? > >I understand that you already have a copyright assignment, correct? How >about the other contributors to this package, if any? I have done a copyright assignment before, although I don't remember if it was general or for a specific thing (you might search for mouse-extras.el) or mouse-drag.el. If you're concerned, I should probably re-do one for the notes-mode package. All external contributions were off the one-line, no-copyright-needed variety. -John From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: patch Received: via spool by 511-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B511.121692835026157 (code B ref 511); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 511) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jul 2008 19:39:10 +0000 Received: from cyd (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6OJd7Ru026151 for <511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:39:08 -0700 Received: by cyd (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 879BA57E32E; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:40:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: John Heidemann Cc: 511@debbugs.gnu.org References: <7100.1216872410@dash.isi.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:40:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <7100.1216872410@dash.isi.edu> (John Heidemann's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:06:50 -0700") Message-ID: <87y73r9ikr.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii John Heidemann writes: > I have done a copyright assignment before, although I don't remember > if it was general or for a specific thing (you might search for > mouse-extras.el) or mouse-drag.el. If you're concerned, I should > probably re-do one for the notes-mode package. > > All external contributions were of the one-line, no-copyright-needed > variety. I just checked: your assignment is for general contributions to Emacs. So that's fine. However, there are a couple of doubts that make me hesitant to include notes-mode in the main Emacs distribution. Firstly, it's a moderately sized package with multiple source files, including perl scripts; for reasons of convenience and cleanliness, packages of a similar nature tend to be distributed seperately from Emacs and not bundled with it (e.g., AucTeX and preview-latex). Secondly, there are a couple of packages around that do a similar thing, such as John Wiegley's planner mode. Neither of these means that we can't ultimately include notes-mode, but I'd prefer to take some time evaluating it and discussing it on emacs-devel first. I'm really sorry you've been waiting since 2006 (!), but it may be better to schedule this for inclusion into Emacs 23.2 at the earliest, instead of Emacs 23.1 (which may be six to nine months from now, though it's not certain). In the meantime, however, we should add notes-mode to etc/MORE.STUFF. Could you send an entry for MORE.STUFF, similar to the other entries in that file? Again, I'm sorry this dropped off the radar screen after your initial message to us in 2006. From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Reply-To: John Heidemann , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: John Heidemann Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: patch Received: via spool by 511-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B511.12169305683835 (code B ref 511); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:25:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 511) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jul 2008 20:16:08 +0000 Received: from vir.isi.edu (vir.isi.edu [128.9.160.91]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6OKG0AT003829 for <511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:16:01 -0700 Received: from dash.isi.edu (dash.isi.edu [128.9.160.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by vir.isi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6OKFtOe015008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:15:55 -0700 Received: from dash.isi.edu (localhost.isi.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dash.isi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6OKFP3A026220; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:15:25 -0700 X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/ To: Chong Yidong Cc: 511@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: <87y73r9ikr.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:15:25 -0700 Message-ID: <26219.1216930525@dash.isi.edu> From: John Heidemann On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:40:36 EDT, Chong Yidong wrote: >John Heidemann writes: > >> I have done a copyright assignment before, although I don't remember >> if it was general or for a specific thing (you might search for >> mouse-extras.el) or mouse-drag.el. If you're concerned, I should >> probably re-do one for the notes-mode package. >> >> All external contributions were of the one-line, no-copyright-needed >> variety. > >I just checked: your assignment is for general contributions to Emacs. >So that's fine. > >However, there are a couple of doubts that make me hesitant to include >notes-mode in the main Emacs distribution. Firstly, it's a moderately >sized package with multiple source files, including perl scripts; for >reasons of convenience and cleanliness, packages of a similar nature >tend to be distributed seperately from Emacs and not bundled with it >(e.g., AucTeX and preview-latex). Secondly, there are a couple of >packages around that do a similar thing, such as John Wiegley's planner >mode. I certainly understand waintence concerns about dropping perl in to the emacs tree. It was OK with rms when we talked about it around 2000 (provided I make startup changes that were done in 2006), but things may have changed. About planner mode, I wasn't aware of it. My guess is it post-dates notes-mode, not that that matters. My quick look at it (web pages only) is that it appears to have better support for planning things (keeping lists of tasks, schedules, etc.). Its journaling functions are project based (file-per-project), with dates as subheads in each file, while notes-modes are date-based (file-per-day) with projects as subheads. The core part of notes-mode is that it auto-generates links that fit a certain style of working, with file-per-day and subheads per task. It's not clear to me to what extent planner-mode autogenerates links. >Neither of these means that we can't ultimately include notes-mode, but >I'd prefer to take some time evaluating it and discussing it on >emacs-devel first. I'm really sorry you've been waiting since 2006 (!), >but it may be better to schedule this for inclusion into Emacs 23.2 at >the earliest, instead of Emacs 23.1 (which may be six to nine months >from now, though it's not certain). > >In the meantime, however, we should add notes-mode to etc/MORE.STUFF. >Could you send an entry for MORE.STUFF, similar to the other entries in >that file? Does this work? * Notes-mode: > >Again, I'm sorry this dropped off the radar screen after your initial >message to us in 2006. No problem. Part of the delay was on my end. -John From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:45:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: patch Received: via spool by 511-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B511.121693551523269 (code B ref 511); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:45:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 511) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jul 2008 21:38:35 +0000 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca (chene.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6OLcRAM023262 for <511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:38:28 -0700 Received: from alfajor.home (vpn-132-204-232-35.acd.umontreal.ca [132.204.232.35]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6OLcMTx024945; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:38:22 -0400 Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 348B31C4D2; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:38:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: John Heidemann Cc: 511@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong Message-ID: References: <26219.1216930525@dash.isi.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:38:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <26219.1216930525@dash.isi.edu> (John Heidemann's message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:15:25 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3067=0 >> However, there are a couple of doubts that make me hesitant to include >> notes-mode in the main Emacs distribution. Firstly, it's a moderately >> sized package with multiple source files, including perl scripts; for >> reasons of convenience and cleanliness, packages of a similar nature >> tend to be distributed seperately from Emacs and not bundled with it >> (e.g., AucTeX and preview-latex). Secondly, there are a couple of >> packages around that do a similar thing, such as John Wiegley's planner >> mode. Yes, I'd like to see a discussion about these modes from people who've tried several and can hence talk about their experience. It seems that Dominik's Org mode is also relevant (especially since it's already bundled with Emacs, contrary to planner). One important aspect as well is whether the package is maintained. AFAICT, John Wigley has been fairly quiet in the last few years, so I'm not sure how well maintained is planner-mode. > I certainly understand waintence concerns about dropping perl in to the > emacs tree. It was OK with rms when we talked about it around 2000 > (provided I make startup changes that were done in 2006), but things may > have changed. I don't think it's a big problem: it just means that your package won't be usable (or at least not 100% functional) for those people without Perl, or with an incompatible version. >> Neither of these means that we can't ultimately include notes-mode, but >> I'd prefer to take some time evaluating it and discussing it on >> emacs-devel first. I'm really sorry you've been waiting since 2006 (!), Than let's do that now. Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Reply-To: John Heidemann , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: John Heidemann Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: patch Received: via spool by 511-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B511.121730291617771 (code B ref 511); Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:50:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 511) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 29 Jul 2008 03:41:56 +0000 Received: from vir.isi.edu (vir.isi.edu [128.9.160.91]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6T3fral017765 for <511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:41:54 -0700 Received: from dash.isi.edu (Vernier-H.Vernier.UH.EDU [129.7.131.202]) (authenticated bits=0) by vir.isi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6T3fdk9025124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:41:46 -0700 Received: from dash.isi.edu (localhost.isi.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dash.isi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6T0AaXU015904; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:10:36 -0700 X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/ To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 511@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:10:36 -0700 Message-ID: <15903.1217290236@dash.isi.edu> From: John Heidemann On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:38:21 EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> However, there are a couple of doubts that make me hesitant to include >>> notes-mode in the main Emacs distribution. Firstly, it's a moderately >>> sized package with multiple source files, including perl scripts; for >>> reasons of convenience and cleanliness, packages of a similar nature >>> tend to be distributed seperately from Emacs and not bundled with it >>> (e.g., AucTeX and preview-latex). Secondly, there are a couple of >>> packages around that do a similar thing, such as John Wiegley's planner >>> mode. > >Yes, I'd like to see a discussion about these modes from people who've >tried several and can hence talk about their experience. It seems that >Dominik's Org mode is also relevant (especially since it's already >bundled with Emacs, contrary to planner). > >One important aspect as well is whether the package is maintained. >AFAICT, John Wigley has been fairly quiet in the last few years, so I'm >not sure how well maintained is planner-mode. How is that discussion supposed to happen? (I.e., are you planning to look at it, or someone on the list, or are you expecting me to do it as part of submitting the code?) I think I gave you my quick evaluation vs. planner-mode in a prior message. >> I certainly understand waintence concerns about dropping perl in to the >> emacs tree. It was OK with rms when we talked about it around 2000 >> (provided I make startup changes that were done in 2006), but things may >> have changed. > >I don't think it's a big problem: it just means that your package won't >be usable (or at least not 100% functional) for those people without >Perl, or with an incompatible version. Ok. -John From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:20:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: patch Received: via spool by 511-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B511.12173084897940 (code B ref 511); Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:20:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_PBL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 511) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 29 Jul 2008 05:14:49 +0000 Received: from furry (c-24-63-201-57.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.201.57]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6T5EjSG007934 for <511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:14:47 -0700 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 338D9C059; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:14:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: John Heidemann Cc: Stefan Monnier , 511@debbugs.gnu.org References: <15903.1217290236@dash.isi.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:14:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: <15903.1217290236@dash.isi.edu> (John Heidemann's message of "Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:10:36 -0700") Message-ID: <87iqupe0fz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii John Heidemann writes: > How is that discussion supposed to happen? (I.e., are you planning to > look at it, or someone on the list, or are you expecting me to do it > as part of submitting the code?) I'm asking if anyone on emacs-devel has used planner mode. Nothing so far. I'm a bit too busy to take a look at this at the moment; maybe in a couple months time. From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 511 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 511@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , John Heidemann Received: via spool by 511-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B511.1334146828643 (code B ref 511); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 511) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2012 12:20:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50593 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHwXD-0000AK-U8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:20:28 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHwXA-0000AA-0O for 511@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:20:26 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHwVy-0001wU-Fp; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:19:10 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <26219.1216930525@dash.isi.edu> X-Now-Playing: Zazou, Bikaye & Cy1's _Noir et Blanc_: "Munipe Wa Kati" Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:19:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:38:21 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SHwVy-0001wU-Fp X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1334751550.63437@L2/iCOuOs3kamyvCznsnPw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Neither of these means that we can't ultimately include notes-mode, but >>> I'd prefer to take some time evaluating it and discussing it on >>> emacs-devel first. I'm really sorry you've been waiting since 2006 (!), > > Than let's do that now. And then nothing happened, I think? Now is probably a good time to make a decision here, what with the new development window opening... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs References: <4758.1214862190@dash.isi.edu> Resent-From: John Heidemann Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 511 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: Chong Yidong , 511@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Received: via spool by 511-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B511.13346087926380 (code B ref 511); Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 511) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2012 20:39:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SJsiF-0001eq-J7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:39:52 -0400 Received: from boreas.isi.edu ([128.9.160.161]:43056) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SJsgZ-0001bM-KH for 511@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:38:08 -0400 Received: from dash.isi.edu (vir.isi.edu [128.9.160.91]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3GKbPer024041; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dash.isi.edu (localhost.isi.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dash.isi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3982D84171; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:37:25 -0700 (PDT) X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/ In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:37:25 -0700 Message-ID: <9556.1334608645@dash.isi.edu> From: John Heidemann X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: johnh@isi.edu X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:39:49 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:19:09 +0200, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: >Stefan Monnier writes: > >>>> Neither of these means that we can't ultimately include notes-mode, but >>>> I'd prefer to take some time evaluating it and discussing it on >>>> emacs-devel first. I'm really sorry you've been waiting since 2006 (!), >> >> Than let's do that now. > >And then nothing happened, I think? > >Now is probably a good time to make a decision here, what with the new >development window opening... Thanks for bringing this up again, Stefan. I did a release of notes-mode-1.29 recently (2012-04-04) with some accumulated (small) bugfixes. That would be a version to pick up. As far as I know this version is suitable for incorporation in emacs. Please let me know if there's something you need me to do. (I assume someone on the GNU side has to actually do the changes there.) -John From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 511 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: John Heidemann Cc: Chong Yidong , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 511-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B511.133468623614944 (code B ref 511); Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:11:01 +0000 Received: (at 511) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2012 18:10:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38659 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SKCrL-0003sy-Fm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:10:36 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:42072) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SKCrJ-0003sr-S0 for 511@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:10:34 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3HIAN2q032156; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:10:23 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4134DAE17A; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:10:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <9556.1334608645@dash.isi.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:10:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9556.1334608645@dash.isi.edu> (John Heidemann's message of "Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:37:25 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4195=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4195> : streams <747680> : uri <1100250> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) >>>>> Neither of these means that we can't ultimately include notes-mode, but >>>>> I'd prefer to take some time evaluating it and discussing it on >>>>> emacs-devel first. I'm really sorry you've been waiting since 2006 (!), >>> Than let's do that now. >> And then nothing happened, I think? >> Now is probably a good time to make a decision here, what with the new >> development window opening... > Thanks for bringing this up again, Stefan. Actually it was Lars. How time passes! Well, in the mean time, we have added package support to Emacs (new in the upcoming Emacs-24.1), and I think notes-mode could hence go to GNU ELPA, and yes, now would be a good time for that. Do you have a Git/Bazaar/younameit repository where you keep notes-mode? Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs References: <4758.1214862190@dash.isi.edu> Resent-From: John Heidemann Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 511 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Chong Yidong , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 511-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B511.133469461027187 (code B ref 511); Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 511) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2012 20:30:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38748 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SKF2Q-00074S-2H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:30:10 -0400 Received: from boreas.isi.edu ([128.9.160.161]:37669) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SKF2N-00073a-3l for 511@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:30:08 -0400 Received: from dash.isi.edu (vir.isi.edu [128.9.160.91]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3HKTLwR001788; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dash.isi.edu (localhost.isi.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dash.isi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172D884171; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:29:21 -0700 (PDT) X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/ In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:29:21 -0700 Message-ID: <5629.1334694561@dash.isi.edu> From: John Heidemann X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: johnh@isi.edu X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:10:23 EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>>>> Neither of these means that we can't ultimately include notes-mode, but >>>>>> I'd prefer to take some time evaluating it and discussing it on >>>>>> emacs-devel first. I'm really sorry you've been waiting since 2006 (!), >>>> Than let's do that now. >>> And then nothing happened, I think? >>> Now is probably a good time to make a decision here, what with the new >>> development window opening... >> Thanks for bringing this up again, Stefan. > >Actually it was Lars. > >How time passes! Well, in the mean time, we have added package support >to Emacs (new in the upcoming Emacs-24.1), and I think notes-mode could >hence go to GNU ELPA, and yes, now would be a good time for that. > >Do you have a Git/Bazaar/younameit repository where you keep notes-mode? > > > Stefan I have an internal git repository. In principle I can make a public one, but I assume what goes in emacs would get scooped up in its version control system, so does it make sense to just go to that? -John From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 511 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: John Heidemann Cc: Chong Yidong , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 511-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B511.133478612229721 (code B ref 511); Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 511) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2012 21:55:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40399 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SKcqP-0007jJ-JC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:55:22 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:58109) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SKcqO-0007jD-8i for 511@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:55:20 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3ILt3qg007570; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:55:03 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BD6EDAE177; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:55:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <5629.1334694561@dash.isi.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:55:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5629.1334694561@dash.isi.edu> (John Heidemann's message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:29:21 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4196=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4196> : streams <747997> : uri <1100700> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) >> Do you have a Git/Bazaar/younameit repository where you keep notes-mode? > I have an internal git repository. > In principle I can make a public one, but I assume what goes in emacs > would get scooped up in its version control system, so does it make > sense to just go to that? Yes, the idea is to move the code to the `elpa' branch in the Emacs repository and then you can work on it from there. I asked about your repository in case you want to preserve that history (which can be done, using the bzr-git plugin together with "bzr join"). Doing it can be a bit tricky ("bzr join" is not the most polished part of Bazaar), so if you want I can take care of the initial import (for which I'd need access to (a copy of) your Git repository). Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs References: <4758.1214862190@dash.isi.edu> Resent-From: John Heidemann Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 511 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Chong Yidong , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 511-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B511.133480262227631 (code B ref 511); Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 511) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Apr 2012 02:30:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40670 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SKh8Y-0007Bc-DG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:30:22 -0400 Received: from boreas.isi.edu ([128.9.160.161]:42011) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SKh8U-0007BP-Sx for 511@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:30:20 -0400 Received: from dash.isi.edu (vir.isi.edu [128.9.160.91]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3J2To8t017115; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dash.isi.edu (localhost.isi.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dash.isi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E387F84171; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:29:49 -0700 (PDT) X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/ In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:29:49 -0700 Message-ID: <23054.1334802589@dash.isi.edu> From: John Heidemann X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: johnh@isi.edu X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:55:01 EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Do you have a Git/Bazaar/younameit repository where you keep notes-mode? >> I have an internal git repository. >> In principle I can make a public one, but I assume what goes in emacs >> would get scooped up in its version control system, so does it make >> sense to just go to that? > >Yes, the idea is to move the code to the `elpa' branch in the Emacs >repository and then you can work on it from there. > >I asked about your repository in case you want to preserve that history >(which can be done, using the bzr-git plugin together with "bzr join"). >Doing it can be a bit tricky ("bzr join" is not the most polished part >of Bazaar), so if you want I can take care of the initial import (for >which I'd need access to (a copy of) your Git repository). > > > Stefan I'm ok if you just import the current version. I'm sure the 15 years of my edits are fascinating, but not to whom :-) -John From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 18:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 511 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: John Heidemann Cc: Chong Yidong , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 511@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 511-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B511.1336156329646 (code B ref 511); Fri, 04 May 2012 18:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 511) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2012 18:32:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36347 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SQNIW-0000AM-2C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2012 14:32:08 -0400 Received: from ironport-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.143.162]:43930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SQNIS-00009r-4H for 511@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2012 14:32:05 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYIACxOgk9MCqD5/2dsb2JhbABDDrgVA4EMgQiCCQEBBAFIDiMFCwstBxIUGA0khiSBeAWwLIYGi2GBSYMwBJZ9jUiBXYIwU4FAgTg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,391,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="178372731" Received: from 76-10-160-249.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.160.249]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 May 2012 14:30:12 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0E95066109; Fri, 4 May 2012 14:30:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <23054.1334802589@dash.isi.edu> Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 14:30:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <23054.1334802589@dash.isi.edu> (John Heidemann's message of "Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:29:49 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > I'm ok if you just import the current version. > I'm sure the 15 years of my edits are fascinating, but not to whom :-) I've just added it to `elpa'. But please note that the current format isn't quite right: I've added a notes-mode-pkg.el file, as needed, but ELPA packages do not run any `configure' script or `Makefile', so you'll need to adjust a few things to accomodate this. See the documentation about packages in Emacs-24's (info "(elisp) Multi-file Packages"). You'll need write access to the code, which you can get by registering on savannah.gnu.org and then from your account request membership in the `emacs' group. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 08 19:16:34 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 May 2012 23:16:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41921 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtdy-0005Yo-2y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 19:16:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59755 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtdw-0005Yh-34 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 19:16:32 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtbq-0007OG-Ii for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 19:14:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 19:14:22 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 511 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) close 511