From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:04:50 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#50727 <50727@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#50727 <50727@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display Reply-To: bug#50727 <50727@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:04:50 +0000 retitle 50727 Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display reassign 50727 emacs submitter 50727 Stefan Kangas severity 50727 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 21 19:22:32 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2021 23:22:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48253 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSp5s-0002n5-6E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 19:22:32 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:32968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSp5q-0002mw-64 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 19:22:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSp5q-0006iq-0S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 19:22:30 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f173.google.com ([209.85.210.173]:37530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSp5o-0002iV-DW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 19:22:29 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f173.google.com with SMTP id j6so1045785pfa.4 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:22:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=p/dcerG+Jkit5ZvgvxZ9ATY0unZJMUw8EgN79EWmem4=; b=LplYz2sA+hKytkJyVIMfEhWZL7lcGDXSXVev8BEPzG1UC+MUUDTEbfrdV2q1bVEEUU bh4LiSgm7Cj7eJE1P+CfxGxi2EKfO/i4xocCkPWll6aBiKTO2mk/7L1975Iz694qy3H6 G3GYvYpxb3coD1sh/5VKOoB0pf6MC4AMvN6fm0OlH4PjG9xJnI4dlAH20aqZyhBiu8r9 OChgMygSfEzgBdJkzDtui0HJBpt59pOF7umWawjSOPPK3qZTu1UGQh1YRHjkeDGAvNM/ lUpePVm8nsENYO3gpdYZbHDvAagPp+EbaKWjShqzDiKc8VkPlP2c/IR4hPNhAiu4NjER 1Vpg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532vPRsRH5R6FbtxwDR6z7NBOZQQwOm6s0x5t6MjEZ4YyR/y24d3 WD+vschFMMhZbNivMm34fgshHVnY17z3OOczW3d3Jxfu X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxmXhXad1UQBTved1TsOD2JOgIIwXMNqfUZq8klRuIDzXvdMOld9ZQOtgohJQz/J9fFZep6aAHFOj6Wfo+w0rs= X-Received: by 2002:a63:6941:: with SMTP id e62mr4304956pgc.114.1632266546863; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:22:26 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas X-Debbugs-CC: larsi@gnus.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:22:26 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.210.173; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-f173.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Severity: minor `kbd-macro-display' is a new command in Emacs 28 bound to `C-x C-k Q'. (See commit d4e9d191aeba.) However, the `kmacro-bind-to-key' docstring says: The key sequences [C-x C-k 0] through [C-x C-k 9] and [C-x C-k A] through [C-x C-k Z] are reserved for user bindings, and to bind to one of these sequences, just enter the digit or letter, rather than the whole sequence. This advice seems to conflict with the chosen key binding for `kbd-macro-display'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 21 19:27:33 2021 Received: (at 50727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2021 23:27:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48261 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSpAi-0002vX-SS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 19:27:33 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:42200) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSpAh-0002vO-2Y for 50727@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 19:27:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1632266849; bh=3J4tOflgl3nBbXz8ZDVO3CZsR9dkdB3w+ObnYxbViaI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=sjlAi8Zknbb0ti4QmbkqTnSlbHpz4La0vSLlxx39hAjxlCs6jfug/fftFOaZIMJQ5 7paHHBpTsj22FDvd+wIEhzk51RRRarTgJatU/+Cduc7zqIqIoZN7Rk3B5PNVt81WxH 0GQGYBLpwC+Mo7RrShpAeq10JyVyF9PSo8Qy0db61fgkfsGN5Ws6l5woz8/9Ida+Eb l7hsFc1djS7F7iGB+iGIU9+OKrE9LBmHr0BX9V+hZ/pZWHa3K0087gYdLjFNe/a9Pm 9wt6GkZzScHQKllXTbFr6y7/qGXHv3igg2uR75HU8TkzPj11axQ+O4pQrHPv1vQt0m FU8Ae4qmT4Wyw== Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:27:29 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <052fb8a67e5e307120ba@heytings.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > `kbd-macro-display' is a new command in Emacs 28 bound to `C-x C-k Q'. > (See commit d4e9d191aeba.) > > However, the `kmacro-bind-to-key' docstring says: > > The key sequences [C-x C-k 0] through [C-x C-k 9] and [C-x C-k A] > through [C-x C-k Z] are reserved for user bindings, and to bind to > one of these sequences, just enter the digit or letter, rather than > the whole sequence. > > This advice seems to conflict with the chosen key binding for > `kbd-macro-display'. > It's 'kbd-macro-redisplay', not 'kbd-macro-display'. Indeed it conflicts with the keys that are supposed to be reserved for user bindings, but it is by far not the only one: C-x C-k Q kdb-macro-redisplay C-x C-k b kmacro-bind-to-key C-x C-k e edit-kbd-macro C-x C-k l kmacro-edit-lossage C-x C-k n kmacro-name-last-macro C-x C-k q kbd-macro-query C-x C-k r apply-macro-to-region-lines C-x C-k s kmacro-start-macro C-x C-k x kmacro-to-register From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 22 02:17:05 2021 Received: (at 50727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 06:17:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48642 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSvZ3-000828-Eh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:17:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSvZ1-00081W-N2 for 50727@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:17:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53394) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSvYw-00012Q-6x; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:16:58 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4185 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSvYv-0002xb-38; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:16:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:16:51 +0300 Message-Id: <83tuidw2wc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:22:26 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:22:26 -0700 > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com > > The key sequences [C-x C-k 0] through [C-x C-k 9] and [C-x C-k A] > through [C-x C-k Z] are reserved for user bindings, and to bind to > one of these sequences, just enter the digit or letter, rather than > the whole sequence. Regardless of the main issue here, why does this doc string use this strange notation for key sequences? What is the meaning of the brackets here, and why don't we use `..' as usual? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 22 02:37:45 2021 Received: (at 50727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 06:37:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48656 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSvt3-0000Jl-1j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:37:45 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f51.google.com ([209.85.216.51]:55287) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSvt0-0000JR-DD for 50727@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:37:43 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f51.google.com with SMTP id me1so1320632pjb.4 for <50727@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=s7QMpl762BBojpqNEnNQIrMWl/rMM2L/sJwvC795Xuw=; b=SHaW40hPv4R970zbprP35IpdSg3F+QK09qXHuisirW1suADEOm6R638F/eMi/Fji7t bmb1agVaIb2l6z46BPZT/6/wGaLNdPQCyXzVTnuY8bkyEvOWqNHlFuDOJi/zbExyFHV6 FKOKDI//5x5qvLj4+rlTEuJrWSwMHff63z6s7agUw+MSQb8uCntZNEz7edYyzh1yNAKh tLaw9pTJfRpH9/Ip9fR/lT5XyoOy7usID17N0DcyAaMaFHmxlUDT2Uff+7dCSdPcUrOe tga8xklI6CreEiQu4LhLGEUtbUMdLL8gE7qli6dKG/TVYv/LTueYIgxXeNHDuoDEEq9c Rf9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532f8BEQOmqDBljwoLNKfOPOh/dvlE2E9gDgaVU/r70MtzwuZPQF PSaTvFbBlP5pjDK3gS1mk3kSzHgoQ+ZTXheoLwY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwv10zvrdL5FxFNeJILJZy2OcHtT1yDL6Ek2c5zjdG6kugPcIK2rfo5LkAFiSqLRT32Mhe0hDFLGF1Xi/Ulj58= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3805:: with SMTP id mq5mr9404705pjb.143.1632292656399; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:37:35 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <052fb8a67e5e307120ba@heytings.org> References: <052fb8a67e5e307120ba@heytings.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:37:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display To: Gregory Heytings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Gregory Heytings writes: > It's 'kbd-macro-redisplay', not 'kbd-macro-display'. Sorry, yes: `kbd-macro-redisplay'. > Indeed it conflicts with the keys that are supposed to be reserved for > user bindings, but it is by far not the only one: > > C-x C-k Q kdb-macro-redisplay > C-x C-k b kmacro-bind-to-key > C-x C-k e edit-kbd-macro > C-x C-k l kmacro-edit-lossage > C-x C-k n kmacro-name-last-macro > C-x C-k q kbd-macro-query > C-x C-k r apply-macro-to-region-lines > C-x C-k s kmacro-start-macro > C-x C-k x kmacro-to-register I believe only the first one of these breaks the convention, as it is the only one to use an upper-case letter. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 22 02:53:14 2021 Received: (at 50727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 06:53:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48669 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSw82-0000rK-13 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:53:14 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f169.google.com ([209.85.215.169]:34425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSw80-0000qy-Ga for 50727@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:53:13 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f169.google.com with SMTP id f129so1708273pgc.1 for <50727@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:53:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1zEGYMkOxlf2mlPa7/D5Q1Im71sGP91WEc+gtvExZfc=; b=3eOu8yIC5gvDTczhS0F0iR5ILf02082KbD4ic3V45LBiz4hhuBYvlUAjZIAu7bi6Pk R1emNy6FaIAxlooraFLYr3tF3HqyeALeORFs/V30Tgf9MYbczSZV7BXw+Q6LgAHAJpW2 mFUjUvSRahBW/rjcHz1z9I+I1EJOP4EMukRbCU4goQxZD+8+iemRxFPt0YoUNcLOfavS +EMHb/DUfk69UEQIY/g/9nptD2XSVXnN8Mazw/O5RmBvuLWnXBsE2HsPZfT+4nGEWxFp 8LgssR4rdWCMXZ0UuBAjrAIBSHZ9CkMLfw0+Um/CxHOU3YAOgXqbTKqLv5bc4A7tXr0w o/HA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531qeUOub1vZP5gdrHnRky2EHAkjFrcLdFFcNW/fzK6i+j2VjTLk HYcoqg5F86EDuCBPGHV9tp11CUAILhC5YfW5gho= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxCjVsIB+9PRWnfHG/Gmpe+U7dXj6yVweKbZLXUgyvIfoTS0nQWfdj+LjF1Yfv/3nZiaooAejHN6JL+lfXJ0Xg= X-Received: by 2002:a63:6941:: with SMTP id e62mr5556036pgc.114.1632293586682; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:53:06 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83tuidw2wc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83tuidw2wc.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:53:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The key sequences [C-x C-k 0] through [C-x C-k 9] and [C-x C-k A] >> through [C-x C-k Z] are reserved for user bindings, and to bind to >> one of these sequences, just enter the digit or letter, rather than >> the whole sequence. > > Regardless of the main issue here, why does this doc string use this > strange notation for key sequences? What is the meaning of the > brackets here, and why don't we use `..' as usual? AFAICT, there is no particular reason for using that notation here. I'll push a fix for that shortly, lumped in with some other checkdoc fixes. 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[2003:d8:6749:f800:b0f1:ea34:f04c:f395]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m4sm5174531wml.28.2021.09.21.23.58.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:58:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Marco Wahl To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display Organization: Marco Wahl References: <052fb8a67e5e307120ba@heytings.org> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:58:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:37:35 -0700") Message-ID: <87pmt1ume2.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: Gregory Heytings , 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: > Gregory Heytings writes: > >> It's 'kbd-macro-redisplay', not 'kbd-macro-display'. > > Sorry, yes: `kbd-macro-redisplay'. > >> Indeed it conflicts with the keys that are supposed to be reserved for >> user bindings, but it is by far not the only one: >> >> C-x C-k Q kdb-macro-redisplay >> C-x C-k b kmacro-bind-to-key >> C-x C-k e edit-kbd-macro >> C-x C-k l kmacro-edit-lossage >> C-x C-k n kmacro-name-last-macro >> C-x C-k q kbd-macro-query >> C-x C-k r apply-macro-to-region-lines >> C-x C-k s kmacro-start-macro >> C-x C-k x kmacro-to-register > > I believe only the first one of these breaks the convention, as it is > the only one to use an upper-case letter. Thanks for pointing out the issue! Now what to do? What about dropping key sequence C-x C-k Q and use C-x C-k d instead? Or even dropping that key sequence entirey? I vote for keeping a key sequence for kdb-macro-redisplay, tho. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 22 03:01:04 2021 Received: (at 50727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 07:01:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwFc-00019p-4x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 03:01:04 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:42600) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwFa-00019F-3N for 50727@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 03:01:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1632294060; bh=5LJMVefnjSAcO2VJ1sJ6iRnVyt5pDDlMvKzjV8o6n0Q=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=dUQQUdAVZD9mjzKXcQrleSb310hgU+h2ffS4Qn38E/rkK1wGmbiocmxkja8FL0yJE yQzs9ACqOmK+oIqHYbs27XhcPU32BIR7AAURlyC9OkGOU7ya4FMhsFYgp1DB3M9YRq XiW/3j7AzSM55vWx1TF44B5yxp2rg8fEj7cnUwzw6+/p3BBijeyrYaJEupnUpO3za+ dqgpQcV3y0m2RR8NIRRdmOlTU0VmynyV7WbOlLlhkgPN7XVRJL9KysDmd6o4VEYkWL DjyNdkymp6d3n5vATvvR2832zk7zoQ0X4V5MBzmDfUdc8YyjrPEP4rkMpIDTeAs2kS gDjSdz0Mo1Faw== Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 07:01:00 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00e7f27d25ae5e9e86c8@heytings.org> References: <052fb8a67e5e307120ba@heytings.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Indeed it conflicts with the keys that are supposed to be reserved for >> user bindings, but it is by far not the only one: >> >> C-x C-k Q kdb-macro-redisplay >> C-x C-k b kmacro-bind-to-key >> C-x C-k e edit-kbd-macro >> C-x C-k l kmacro-edit-lossage >> C-x C-k n kmacro-name-last-macro >> C-x C-k q kbd-macro-query >> C-x C-k r apply-macro-to-region-lines >> C-x C-k s kmacro-start-macro >> C-x C-k x kmacro-to-register > > I believe only the first one of these breaks the convention, as it is > the only one to use an upper-case letter. > Indeed, I thought that the convention was similar to the C-c LETTER one, in which both lower and upper case letters are reserved for users, but you are correct, it's only upper case letters that are reserved for users in this case. Which IMO isn't a good thing, typing C-x C-k S-LETTER is awkward. 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[2003:d8:6749:f800:b0f1:ea34:f04c:f395]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u29sm1247445wru.34.2021.09.22.00.02.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 22 Sep 2021 00:02:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Marco Wahl To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display References: <83tuidw2wc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:01:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83tuidw2wc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:16:51 +0300") Message-ID: <87lf3pum8u.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, Stefan Kangas , marcowahlsoft@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Kangas >> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:22:26 -0700 >> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com >> >> The key sequences [C-x C-k 0] through [C-x C-k 9] and [C-x C-k A] >> through [C-x C-k Z] are reserved for user bindings, and to bind to >> one of these sequences, just enter the digit or letter, rather than >> the whole sequence. > > Regardless of the main issue here, why does this doc string use this > strange notation for key sequences? What is the meaning of the > brackets here, and why don't we use `..' as usual? Of course I don't know but I guess the reason for that notation has been just a lack of knowledge about the usual notation style. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 22 03:34:24 2021 Received: (at 50727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 07:34:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48741 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwls-0002J8-Iq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 03:34:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwlq-0002Ip-UQ for 50727@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 03:34:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwll-0001d7-F2; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 03:34:17 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4934 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwll-0004BG-0g; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 03:34:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 10:34:14 +0300 Message-Id: <83lf3pvzbd.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:53:06 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display References: <83tuidw2wc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:53:06 -0700 > Cc: 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, marcowahlsoft@gmail.com > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> The key sequences [C-x C-k 0] through [C-x C-k 9] and [C-x C-k A] > >> through [C-x C-k Z] are reserved for user bindings, and to bind to > >> one of these sequences, just enter the digit or letter, rather than > >> the whole sequence. > > > > Regardless of the main issue here, why does this doc string use this > > strange notation for key sequences? What is the meaning of the > > brackets here, and why don't we use `..' as usual? > > AFAICT, there is no particular reason for using that notation here. > I'll push a fix for that shortly, lumped in with some other checkdoc > fixes. Thanks. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Marco Wahl writes: > What about dropping key sequence C-x C-k Q and use C-x C-k d instead? I moved it to `C-x C-k d' on the trunk now. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50727 Cc: 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings , Stefan Kangas X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Marco Wahl writes: > What about dropping key sequence C-x C-k Q and use C-x C-k d instead? I moved it to `C-x C-k d' on the trunk now. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 22 15:57:36 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 19:57:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51760 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mT8N5-0005zz-Vl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:57:36 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mT8N4-0005zj-9y for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:57:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=a6W/wAWKa38qh7kFYMvaHzZZw0BvbRpPCNhtEgyZKSc=; b=exgEJaTOh30dPB/ASYBFqRUoZL kqHgLYlz9BrQFpS4B1meUAgA22bqA7uN5Sv052Tc4NDwIph3yk3JoejEqBhq9f5zzHfguZABArGsS ywZLbLe5lVyhMLBmgTOr/1jTRvH13x6V4Dc4PTvMc/DAOwuepkoKfhsCtPThmLGIDS7E=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mT8Mu-0006iQ-Tf for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 21:57:28 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 21:57:24 +0200 Message-Id: <87czp0v0wr.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #50727 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 50727 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 50727 28.1 quit From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:04:50 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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