From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 00:21:14 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 04:21:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43890 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPdSz-0003cC-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 00:21:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:38382) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPdSy-0003c4-3P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 00:21:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPdSx-0004qe-Tw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 00:21:11 -0400 Received: from mail-vs1-f42.google.com ([209.85.217.42]:37737) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPdSw-0004DT-9e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 00:21:11 -0400 Received: by mail-vs1-f42.google.com with SMTP id i23so7247684vsj.4 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 21:21:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=q/2Yi4gcSjaVBA4xfuftuBUVNnJj/c6P/FztQVoK2n4=; b=SDMylAT5Hl1TEXN74k9BXHhwFLWjfedsDhV6C4gCdKv2JMes5b3aNauCl7rDtSzmR5 uNp0mBg+mPZV9h5V7wxzMyFFDWOwkMW9t1yW7Ch/WvmmEQGmIhHHBrr4VFRoSYLgZR3Y QVbX5DvHvQTKYmc6rHOPy4lk97bhhoP/Cod+yHQ24NRSxUFAGwNAX0x4DKXd4eE9qtTO BMQ/ZOv/K0bP5OjNkol0G8XHFRtMxooJawZycrgnus4FVf3Ku2TP6U6dJ+TRcryhKOqd kjYkmNzWHmcS4OFhAqaJ/wacWe2Oi83KGNpquErJWJc5Wtnz1VPJtCUShT43kEAaKRcI 0niQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53253L5kQKndFnOt0wuBjHdTjnkhodo3Zzsfp52Y1ltWSBmi9gli 94w56xQ0xZTVTNOUek7dqqdSVQFT3vCv5P4WFfd7BdaPh7klHg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyFyVXUSO35ZhS4YLtDT7+dGHrVzDy0BtQSKjVIC+z9qgTqLRZvgsEBK2e7t5gN5L3rqqsJ2IviPrSm70tu6jc= X-Received: by 2002:a67:cb0a:: with SMTP id b10mr3840836vsl.9.1631506868491; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 21:21:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil Hudson Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:20:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 28.1; Nonsense NEWS entry? To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.217.42; envelope-from=philhudsonster@gmail.com; helo=mail-vs1-f42.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) The NEWS entry documenting new function 'insert-into-buffer' http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 appears to me to be self-contradictory. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 04:29:54 2021 Received: (at 50558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 08:29:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44230 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPhLe-0005zM-49 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:29:54 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPhLY-0005yu-5t for 50558@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:29:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=LVL8OrEZiGRYx0RCVyzKBbXSc7AZJOw61Kw8yUsmMM4=; b=tX9WkKxD4ntXiqjb+KGz9nTsVI QmixeoVvBChXwTvUcZGUXNii3m1e+SN6BdBcuyEddUOcFLAcwfIKztuKmJekw/wfSAO7kfLym0IpK 1EXBnJlArVGIYXhC+kIez9+T7cns12Qc8l21COCy0KLyD9F2Yux1p23G0YYrJEcGPfrU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mPhLP-0006gv-4i; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 10:29:41 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Phil Hudson Subject: Re: bug#50558: 28.1; Nonsense NEWS entry? References: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 10:29:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Phil Hudson's message of "Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:20:57 +0100") Message-ID: <87lf40ho99.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Phil Hudson writes: > The NEWS entry documenting new function 'insert-into-buffer' > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 > appears to me to be self-contr [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50558 Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Phil Hudson writes: > The NEWS entry documenting new function 'insert-into-buffer' > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 > appears to me to be self-contradictory. I don't see how it contradicts itself, but it's not a good NEWS entry. I've now rewritten it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 04:29:55 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 08:29:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44232 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPhLe-0005zP-NW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:29:54 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPhLc-0005z1-74 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:29:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=9B50dgCXjdcqIGdu0Aoz0+DQDB3yupypRxEyoWwN+HU=; b=IzH/LnM/O6IKhvuTW4DKBbvq6d eLuMJHas4+QEqIVdYvZ9kNzCK4IWegECpSkfDtjrINKDIRH902+hIIw2sfmMuWpPjXSYO1YyUkUZy W8t5MPC7FyTXJKOtP3OO6iug00zp7nFQnM4fSdrbwvsaTkZpCDKUNZJgh18S63L2AEO4=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mPhLU-0006h5-PK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 10:29:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 10:29:44 +0200 Message-Id: <87k0jkho93.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #50558 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 50558 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 50558 28.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 06:20:23 2021 Received: (at 50558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 10:20:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44446 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPj4W-0000rE-6G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 06:20:23 -0400 Received: from mail-vs1-f50.google.com ([209.85.217.50]:39904) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPj4U-0000qz-5Z for 50558@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 06:20:19 -0400 Received: by mail-vs1-f50.google.com with SMTP id o124so7892013vsc.6 for <50558@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 03:20:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6vO+vsBI5DQVhaCMU0z/4grq6diV+sEFb9onXWmyugk=; b=cuthju2/WOk4TM7PZ+qZB9g6MVJxABujIr3x/fouQ+SiBGih+NfNoesSV/f1TU2unO OhIhAGVgvrV6Hs2peVRxI4rrf6SpUA8JE14iwfRtlE2z5uJ/TYE7a6R0E7EFpllJ0v3H I0ceLtM6lhMGBGW5l+sUOSRP8PxKOKrZbgRWAZKLD+vUjhgG3B4jTrMsx6NX56MMmy+w j12zd+tLvZk73vrAoFOpRkPtMD3bLputL0t8LNdtkL8UN63vKZXOeEcdIN8g1a34LaYK i/GvEzEQ5/h0mTzA9P/FPXvFMyEL8cyBXFkW7VtbRsEA52tf8LYQCDCMm2qt0SkP2yf+ O+Hw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533K2qSub9HVG8Izn4orPlHdiYm/NRs1/gX7wdoelMcVvljH1Y3y jOqjLo0uiO39BbYJm+8gczy7uGirr05Kx8BQy2t0HuclmQRLhA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyYnmX/5qExyba5Fa4zUTVZ3tthtbx0jkTJ3gioqaceLXy0syW6LTkcTWjJIcf26keVs5BF8XEGruGN9IMiu1g= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ed86:: with SMTP id d6mr1042377vsp.38.1631528412423; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 03:20:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87lf40ho99.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87lf40ho99.fsf@gnus.org> From: Phil Hudson Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:20:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#50558: 28.1; Nonsense NEWS entry? To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50558 Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) That comment makes me think you may have missed the point, and since you don't include your updated entry I can't tell if the new one addresses it or not. Let's try it algebraically: +*** New utility function 'x'. +This is like 'x', but works in the opposite direction. Literally a direct self-contradiction. On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 09:29, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Phil Hudson writes: > > > The NEWS entry documenting new function 'insert-into-buffer' > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 > > appears to me to be self-contradictory. > > I don't see how it contradicts itself, but it's not a good NEWS entry. > I've now rewritten it. > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 08:34:13 2021 Received: (at 50558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 12:34:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44600 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlA5-0000kJ-Az for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:34:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlA3-0000k4-OM for 50558@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:34:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPl9y-0005Gs-0i; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:34:06 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2509 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPl9x-00072x-Kq; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:34:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:33:59 +0300 Message-Id: <83bl4wejt4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Phil Hudson In-Reply-To: (message from Phil Hudson on Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:20:01 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#50558: 28.1; Nonsense NEWS entry? References: <87lf40ho99.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50558 Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Phil Hudson > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:20:01 +0100 > Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org > > Let's try it algebraically: > > +*** New utility function 'x'. > +This is like 'x', but works in the opposite direction. No, it said This is like 'y', but works in the opposite direction. (The name of the other function was similar, but still different.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 09:07:35 2021 Received: (at 50558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 13:07:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44662 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlgN-0003tC-0i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:07:35 -0400 Received: from mail-vk1-f172.google.com ([209.85.221.172]:42783) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlgL-0003sy-Ry for 50558@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:07:34 -0400 Received: by mail-vk1-f172.google.com with SMTP id k69so3360476vkk.9 for <50558@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 06:07:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4AgaZ4kebfme0W6hPTLfo/FQhGlzRMpPm0SPVIZKzp0=; b=rAsLn2cjXErK36Tu9nYXow1eqW4hhV1zzTU/7xHSGvQ1W7Pcbl+WUhDy2yBxPYeYTg PcD1QMyGO/UfeMFMOmjbqJYBWzO0joNJEYzSvW51kxsRbfalE2gIRDkSqFM3BRCr5R1r ViNnKpPVzJrj25IXwr9OwH4RkQ5JfKD2SqcSjurzZ6qQp1Gpb5b3ztdqbHav7Rz7iK87 x6g8DYq6TtuuNC+Y9XmZqkyk3bLOMk3K36fDtTwv9zaJPO5UlZvSsRpbHYCZ9ZcI1Wr8 IaPzISmygznScUJFxW5SWMyZeJaOrLCdci+ErGqjGDPSoZ0Y2Qmbd0P4y8klV73dJT7M QZVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530uyN35VTI0GZULHNpFQn1I/QMgolIQ3qNuliiyhuFZVblQkSGk aErH1oCpasM4MWvevEzk0361TNjHCB3BGf3t9ig= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzFLW3OFh64VZTqU79eCq7hWvGcqUgCJt8r4sdn+THq0PkSXgEcEj3z1Kc0oc5lDnk38jENkevF5VQ/9Lf+WLQ= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:944d:: with SMTP id w74mr4303393vkd.9.1631538448348; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 06:07:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87lf40ho99.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl4wejt4.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83bl4wejt4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Phil Hudson Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 14:07:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#50558: 28.1; Nonsense NEWS entry? To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50558 Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Are we looking at the same thing? http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 13:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Phil Hudson > > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:20:01 +0100 > > Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Let's try it algebraically: > > > > +*** New utility function 'x'. > > +This is like 'x', but works in the opposite direction. > > No, it said > > This is like 'y', but works in the opposite direction. > > (The name of the other function was similar, but still different.) 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Content preview: Phil Hudson writes: > Are we looking at the same thing? > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 commit 10f18ff13b8bc416553d7b7ae250bff1fc499280 Author: Michael Albinus AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 13:58:04 2021 +0200 Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50558 Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Phil Hudson writes: > Are we looking at the same thing? > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 commit 10f18ff13b8bc416553d7b7ae250bff1fc499280 Author: Michael Albinus AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 13:58:04 2021 +0200 -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 09:52:06 2021 Received: (at 50558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 13:52:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44784 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmNS-0007DW-5Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:52:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmNQ-0007D4-FG for 50558@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:52:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmNL-00027N-2v; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:51:59 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3473 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPmNK-0005xD-2A; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:51:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 16:51:49 +0300 Message-Id: <835yv4eg7e.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Phil Hudson In-Reply-To: (message from Phil Hudson on Mon, 13 Sep 2021 14:07:17 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#50558: 28.1; Nonsense NEWS entry? References: <87lf40ho99.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl4wejt4.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50558 Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Phil Hudson > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 14:07:17 +0100 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 50558@debbugs.gnu.org > > Are we looking at the same thing? > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 That's a typo from a month ago, which was fixed less than a day afterwards, see 10f18ff13b8bc416553d7b7ae250bff1fc499280. I don't understand why we need to talk about an old corrected typo. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 11:43:43 2021 Received: (at 50558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 15:43:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPo7T-00027C-JZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:43:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPo7R-00026z-Jj for 50558@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:43:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41740) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPo7L-0004eN-Sn; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:43:35 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2654 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPo7L-0007QZ-GD; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:43:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 18:43:26 +0300 Message-Id: <8335q8eb1d.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: phil.hudson@iname.com In-Reply-To: <835yv4eg7e.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 13 Sep 2021 16:51:49 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#50558: 28.1; Nonsense NEWS entry? References: <87lf40ho99.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl4wejt4.fsf@gnu.org> <835yv4eg7e.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50558 Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 16:51:49 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org > > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 > > That's a typo from a month ago ^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, 2 months ago. 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To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50558 Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) I should have realized. Sorry. On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 16:43, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 16:51:49 +0300 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Cc: 50558@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org > > > > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=210b10f3fe7d2b847f7af31276c05001c8fc0ed7 > > > > That's a typo from a month ago > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > Sorry, 2 months ago. 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