From unknown Fri Sep 05 11:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50499: 28.0.50; project.el: Root of current project Resent-From: Augusto Stoffel Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 05:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 50499 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 50499@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.163125159931273 (code B ref -1); Fri, 10 Sep 2021 05:27:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2021 05:26:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36680 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOZ3f-00088L-D0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 01:26:39 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52842) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOZ3d-00088D-TO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 01:26:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41256) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOZ3d-0008Jo-NC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 01:26:37 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::432]:39548) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOZ3b-0001g5-5F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 01:26:37 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id z4so861476wrr.6 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 22:26:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=vzzRTFIdukQZC4XCyx6KeB98zJfUzBvNnuecwk7/izQ=; b=PbqWERQa0tpLHCpx2LQp26WgCY2zK0NhGfzU8oWEbN4VMpTQoFC/QM6RQzh1WNkeZZ 7ahxviYflc9XMPYyMDsioeGPIbZEe3yYfUiKXkOMvuh8yyhw/CAmFfGMlDcVqmhZn+XN 2zsn+10QOT2De+l2zjLrYOkhfehLQObr2s5KXlCNVeUMk0Rx528w0c9FlxpS6FhJisk7 HHl0pSxIm4x6+KtepXrrABpvlHbWBEIGMWN5YArPzF5fqLv5z9Ey4XcaMy8n3HdoSAzn gWv0yjVSm/LOTj8FA0Gdyi0h4sD9BpPmvppUmuGOpl7PbxvJvOkb8I5rZlTzKotyvngM oQGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=vzzRTFIdukQZC4XCyx6KeB98zJfUzBvNnuecwk7/izQ=; b=uLS73e+Mdah3O/2rv4BznBgzuCmogQI3SEYuSWjz1EYD7z050uUr0BmvJ5NuZH+wij 7Z3a1jUUq7DGFmAhw90ccrJrQQQLCYlv80xyTFIlr6brUWOyC0B45EYbHT0Kmze4mcWk WL9RLkPPf4ASQzkWxxpHAdBKSArrgU01rtpxw8MZVQKyQJQTTs4/cAREXJjMv0aVAows HHboWhkO8TW6y0vbdMlIar7xTLRnLCrb6UsFmxe5A58GCevoPkcy8VW1csIS2JbuHiNX 9SSVRgPpHYzdc13DWsbK8zx8TdNy02geyFtbOCqzipTXq74hmplkhupaftzLEpa0fnYC nAiw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5319ePzV8y9oWczpiszVxGFbbgxk3Thxce/gNBXoN/EShc7YiN1k JAREmZBCcRbBhAYQvbAWmXfA3sszEDw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJziCJhZ8lhEBYQkxs3nUWrQdfsB4PN7MWgTeT+xO7xQ/ej3JZ0xWAp+myrPYRcU2p1kW191xA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:80e5:: with SMTP id 92mr7501653wrl.300.1631251591871; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 22:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ars3 ([2a02:8109:8ac0:56d0::b1d]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t64sm3136229wma.48.2021.09.09.22.26.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 09 Sep 2021 22:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Augusto Stoffel Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 07:26:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87v939ypa1.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::432; envelope-from=arstoffel@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x432.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I guess most uses of `project-root' will be of the form (when-let ((p (project-current))) (project-root p)) Or at least this is true in the case of an user who is quickly defining a shortcut command in their config. Wouldn't it make sense to make the PROJECT argument of `project-root' optional, giving the above result when omitted? From unknown Fri Sep 05 11:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50499: 28.0.50; project.el: Root of current project Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 12:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50499 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Augusto Stoffel , 50499@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50499-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50499.163127622619793 (code B ref 50499); Fri, 10 Sep 2021 12:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 50499) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2021 12:17:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37161 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOfSr-00059B-Mr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:17:05 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f46.google.com ([209.85.221.46]:42694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOfSq-00058c-DL for 50499@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:17:04 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f46.google.com with SMTP id q11so2329122wrr.9 for <50499@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 05:17:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TwBbDLhE9WCxHOpuZA0B01gf4gflwVCNYbMrwqjhbBo=; b=IqSxNUPfsqvcozeFPmrQK0rWQ22NXVyvwkOhKCuT+n1aYWq44g0Fpn/0hBlaWXhkMe OD6pXgzk39QtFPPNl5mwfnNOkmnpV7YTJic2kErZ4mUsSgbzyFEQ2Of6UzvSAuba2GxT 3N/dhSd4hgMH9BFVM/tIF0V82d/iMeqHsr6MNEMaHbsS0F6+Xu5dZMVwA7LDK++djZak +cENHclpzii3XrqBID1b2UbMUsO72vU5avGFwdhlWgKFOn2dCcR/730I2zJ+EIOWfzeL jE+MB5BjmEnYaJXxMAUkl6u0I2GckuBeS7nVtS/xATcCUeMPDFoH46cMojMkaggwy0Vh FNwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TwBbDLhE9WCxHOpuZA0B01gf4gflwVCNYbMrwqjhbBo=; b=myOdRKYrWB4tfxc6pn+gD6mzqohtbyNG690vRR/id4KXDTLfIlfc0bLDN8/MfQsRMY 7ddYM2cDetq8Vzifwn1BsHFaTIy5do8OnUDDskZ+Zmo93Z7oxSiD4MiKL3+eQZnkctsl KkJQdGYHrjgcGnGI/GS+oRjLkJZAU2mg1BDx+9SfK96q9lPFeEZspiNRV/KTMQKbGfBm 5SAF7lZ8IHXChcGOG6gfkWK9n5tFBLqB6sabEWPrK2ovazlwqZh06z6hrG2/nsO8tQZ4 AY613kTkpSyM85tu0rV6/kj89+75j6JGHDHj1/MqZenDeh58l0WsJGbsxUtftKjRrY6/ KFLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532XA6mRWIC8nuVYWOVQ38lgYAeXHlnXO77ZWnA2MAf2tMnpWKPL WCfEGGTPF+Yfpnn/MIxxWDaUy2MS8Ck= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwe/wQuvWL8UfBD7khTjFvnW6VyRqISEPOZCL+NxeQGoXEUiTk3iKo6nC7SqRUjUZSBZ9yghw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1287:: with SMTP id f7mr9637414wrx.221.1631276218567; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 05:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id l10sm5027493wrg.50.2021.09.10.05.16.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Sep 2021 05:16:58 -0700 (PDT) References: <87v939ypa1.fsf@gmail.com> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 15:16:56 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87v939ypa1.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) On 10.09.2021 08:26, Augusto Stoffel wrote: > I guess most uses of `project-root' will be of the form > > (when-let ((p (project-current))) > (project-root p)) > > Or at least this is true in the case of an user who is quickly defining > a shortcut command in their config. > > Wouldn't it make sense to make the PROJECT argument of `project-root' > optional, giving the above result when omitted? Given the way it this works, it would need to be a helper function. IIUC cl-defmethod does not support default values for arguments, and if it did, we'd have to have an implementation of project-root, etc, for nil argument. Which is a bad idea because someone else might not want to simply do nothing when there is no project found, and our type system would then fail to help them notice that. I don't mind adding said helper (naming suggestions welcome), but the way things work now seems fine to me already. Either you have: (project-root (project-current t)) where there is no risk of returning nil, and thus no need for when-let, or you call (project-current) first, check it for nil, and then _probably_ use some other fallbacks. If you don't have fallbacks, then the other approach seems better, no? From unknown Fri Sep 05 11:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50499: 28.0.50; project.el: Root of current project Resent-From: Augusto Stoffel Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 16:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50499 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dmitry Gutov Cc: 50499@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50499-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50499.163129014320115 (code B ref 50499); Fri, 10 Sep 2021 16:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 50499) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2021 16:09:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39026 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOj5L-0005EN-2b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 12:09:03 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f51.google.com ([209.85.128.51]:40617) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOj5I-0005Ds-AD for 50499@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 12:09:01 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f51.google.com with SMTP id n14-20020a05600c3b8e00b002f8bd2f8ab6so1818131wms.5 for <50499@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cz7yuYxILT4Vwp3hk8PYFFdvv7B5Hw7LcwiaY2qa5ts=; b=o2pJkQLoPBoZGLVPeE/s+UcxhoCUljslhV4fQVMjXnmKBC5F/mwC+sULEtW1PGQCiO CfFpDHXxOfdwuLNadmEIM8lcXsnWInFyX8WbNHUI7nH8eJ0wkCW2G1Et1mc5gxhNvQOU /FQW3Ya71sFuMP+2ieaS2ELIj5DGqekBpSzKuGLoBBroXBtzfVCqW/ildUs7cvTJ93op No5YOQIdoUa+FxBnyjFGbirJgJA1800Ehfb/osP/2UEaO7WktfItFSq8JgzZ+gXqognV NBp3uG4XvWA2EDTNeVue6PIagEwar5k+n51u1O9RazwkflqTm0h/SHTmFSp4gPHQxPJu Y8HA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cz7yuYxILT4Vwp3hk8PYFFdvv7B5Hw7LcwiaY2qa5ts=; b=xcl1c+VK1V79qFryIQDjY6qIoS7BYSPcWFchmxiYJx+NzpB9z7PynBOXx1BhO6HjT2 6FoUok4reQCswYdl+2baX77uIG7EUVm/1YqK1XXCoyzifm5PhklMT5HbIDGPtWq73guU sr28kS8PJSldBEn1ZSAIUnrDArtgnjiecKzbV0yEq2fuwO5ift1Ie00qPaTOq2PSAE+A yqGvL6bB+lA7jv8Vkqm+bA8chEpp4AYdHmBbyln+WKb5z6CnS3H1O9NFMS91p9lLk10O khFTAtA9NR1R5riH2D1y4nW7W0LLtHeAedRmNWs34ycZ9fcvZ7Hx1DDCEY2OrqPE9mR4 adWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531SIw1ohyiBpC8JBGJtR1UqPGsm1dhNmVTGNVAZ28yWNQq1Mc+C l+RqjwC8dHeo0qeCjCYVAVGG8kUOZg0Z4Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyr4dlE1oKNOb1DX8RBk8HXEEsWGaGL2OaaXGqFZ/jsul6DWndnJDWqDQ5sytv86Bzuq/ekhA== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c0d5:: with SMTP id s21mr8519070wmh.125.1631290134211; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ars3 ([2a02:8109:8ac0:56d0::b1d]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s13sm4725971wmc.47.2021.09.10.09.08.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:08:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Augusto Stoffel References: <87v939ypa1.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 18:08:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2021 15:16:56 +0300") Message-ID: <87lf44e7l7.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 at 15:16, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 10.09.2021 08:26, Augusto Stoffel wrote: >> I guess most uses of `project-root' will be of the form >> (when-let ((p (project-current))) >> (project-root p)) >> Or at least this is true in the case of an user who is quickly >> defining >> a shortcut command in their config. >> Wouldn't it make sense to make the PROJECT argument of >> `project-root' >> optional, giving the above result when omitted? > > Given the way it this works, it would need to be a helper function. Okay, introducing a new name is probably not worth the trouble for such a small benefit. Only if it was possible/easy to overload the existing function (and make it analogous the typical =E2=80=9C&optional BUFFER=E2=80= =9D kind of argument) would there be a gain in it, I think. > > IIUC cl-defmethod does not support default values for arguments, and > if it did, we'd have to have an implementation of project-root, etc, > for nil argument. Which is a bad idea because someone else might not > want to simply do nothing when there is no project found, and our type > system would then fail to help them notice that. > > I don't mind adding said helper (naming suggestions welcome), but the > way things work now seems fine to me already. Either you have: > > (project-root (project-current t)) > > where there is no risk of returning nil, and thus no need for when-let, > or you call (project-current) first, check it for nil, and then > _probably_ use some other fallbacks. If you don't have fallbacks, then > the other approach seems better, no? 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Content preview: severity 50499 wishlist thanks Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.214.174 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.214.174 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stefankangas[at]gmail.com) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 2.0 BLANK_SUBJECT Subject is present but empty 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.2 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager severity 50499 wishlist thanks From unknown Fri Sep 05 11:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50499: 28.0.50; project.el: Root of current project Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50499 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Augusto Stoffel Cc: 50499@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov Received: via spool by 50499-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50499.166143864932167 (code B ref 50499); Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 50499) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2022 14:44:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oRE5Y-0008Mk-Us for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 10:44:09 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33288) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oRE5X-0008MJ-JX for 50499@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 10:44:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=EiEVsLhQG+MpiyRYOISN+i1R5dHX6oVh3ezMshHk0Hw=; b=U5ympSS4p1euBF90hKPnqzN9uK PxXFy1MNCo3ZWZKiiuF32oeDv7sATe4LcsMSs4gYC8vc4uKPqoRo/D+jcDqUhSZCAw6wIfq3W0qvZ FokTDsNKGihutT4tmsB8buKWaFXalLOFeP2HMmlDK+6WsHQAGYBbFbaMsbAx6CJ1x3aw=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oRE5P-0000HX-6c; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 16:44:01 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87lf44e7l7.fsf@gmail.com> (Augusto Stoffel's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2021 18:08:52 +0200") References: <87v939ypa1.fsf@gmail.com> <87lf44e7l7.fsf@gmail.com> X-Now-Playing: The Notwist's _Shrink_: "No Encores" Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 16:43:58 +0200 Message-ID: <87edx4idsh.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Augusto Stoffel writes: > Okay, introducing a new name is probably not worth the trouble for such > a small benefit. Only if it was possible/easy to overload the existing > function (and make it analogous the typical =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9C&opt?= [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Augusto Stoffel writes: > Okay, introducing a new name is probably not worth the trouble for such > a small benefit. Only if it was possible/easy to overload the existing > function (and make it analogous the typical =E2=80=9C&optional BUFFER=E2= =80=9D kind of > argument) would there be a gain in it, I think. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) If I understand correctly, the conclusion here was that we don't want to do this, so I'm closing this bug report. If I misunderstood, please respond to the debbugs address and we'll reopen. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 50499 wontfix close 50499 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 50499 wontfix close 50499 quit