From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 07 14:30:12 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2021 18:30:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNfrH-0002HD-Mc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:30:12 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:47908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNfr1-00023q-Nl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:30:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56368) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNfr0-0005LN-0C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:29:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNfqz-0000Ow-PQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:29:53 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3083 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNfqy-00023t-97 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:29:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:30:00 +0300 Message-Id: <83v93cnsrb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; Redundant version information in *Help* buffers X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) From: eliz@HOME-C4E4A596F7.mail-host-address-is-not-set --text follows this line-- To reproduce: emacs -Q C-h v xref-auto-jump-to-first-xref RET (Many other variable names will also do.) Observe in the *Help* buffer this text: This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in version 28.1 of Emacs. Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 28.1. One of these two sentences is redundant. I think if we have information to produce the first one, the second one should be omitted. While at that, bonus points for moving this stuff to after the actual doc string (except when the value is very long and is shown at the end, in which case this information should be between the documentation and the value). In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1750, i686-pc-mingw32) of 2021-09-07 built on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Repository revision: 91afb9363de7f0c793f0b10414162ca82a5db821 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 System Description: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (v5.1.0.2600) Configured using: 'configure -C --prefix=/d/usr --with-wide-int --with-modules --enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -gdwarf-4 -g3'' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XPM ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1255 Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs auth-source password-cache json map text-property-search time-date subr-x mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils cl-extra cl-print etags fileloop generator xref cl-seq project seq ring eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv eieio-core cl-macs gv eieio-loaddefs thingatpt help-fns radix-tree help-mode cl-loaddefs cl-lib iso-transl tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 68877 11003) (symbols 48 8532 1) (strings 16 26740 1862) (string-bytes 1 739989) (vectors 16 15407) (vector-slots 8 199026 7240) (floats 8 31 174) (intervals 40 317 0) (buffers 888 12)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 08 02:50:59 2021 Received: (at 50463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2021 06:51:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58316 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNrQB-0001tY-MQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:50:59 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55896) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNrQA-0001tD-Mh for 50463@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:50:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=WZNiSFz3cLfNMA1Wf74RU7u24jOvwzg88Z5dNvcnlF8=; b=HgyTWuZDJ5NzaM+rGK7wCGvXMq P5sTXutEHrTN5kSV/rdKbLNHr3PbplJWI4ezDyMEJSP+pQOVVDiF/1627xMIwL6ZuC4CqpR7rzCTp GbHr8aDCl/wzvWLpPvFLVb1TwxA/PTjU22Z09bnHm+g6xrnsCUf+gAjMmsDz4ll67li8=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNrQ1-00086n-9M; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:50:52 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#50463: 28.0.50; Redundant version information in *Help* buffers References: <83v93cnsrb.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:50:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83v93cnsrb.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:30:00 +0300") Message-ID: <87wnnr7e7r.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Observe in the *Help* buffer this text: > > This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in > version 28.1 of Emacs. > Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 28.1. > > One [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50463 Cc: 50463@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Observe in the *Help* buffer this text: > > This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in > version 28.1 of Emacs. > Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 28.1. > > One of these two sentences is redundant. I think if we have > information to produce the first one, the second one should be > omitted. Now fixed. > While at that, bonus points for moving this stuff to after the actual > doc string (except when the value is very long and is shown at the > end, in which case this information should be between the > documentation and the value). Also done. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 08 02:51:04 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2021 06:51:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58320 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNrQF-0001uF-Tz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:51:04 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55910) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNrQE-0001tM-RE for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:51:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=TSkAuNF8KprbJx5I8SW/8UgL8J5rmivUc5COz6vy1j8=; b=K0Tob45OnlaYU1BTpPY+PSGALG Ztt8/htZkHwrPlNShpWxi544TaKXWa7dI9j1BEnykHgfZ/cgBkLIPRFV0oraGwgPf6ztFvRZe3VjB 5VG2LGveZ1a33GxxNxrO0zaDvkom6Zs8wXUVwMG7tU50e0d5boMfw/KsB5oZEBMUh0Qc=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNrQ7-00086w-0U for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:50:57 +0200 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:50:54 +0200 Message-Id: <87v93b7e7l.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #50463 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 50463 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 50463 28.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 08 03:49:18 2021 Received: (at 50463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2021 07:49:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58459 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsKc-0003ms-6h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 03:49:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52178) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsKb-0003mh-1L for 50463@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 03:49:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54596) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsKU-0006XB-9G; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 03:49:11 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4412 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsKS-0007i0-Qc; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 03:49:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:49:17 +0300 Message-Id: <83a6kno6bm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87wnnr7e7r.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:50:48 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#50463: 28.0.50; Redundant version information in *Help* buffers References: <83v93cnsrb.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnnr7e7r.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50463 Cc: 50463@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 50463@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:50:48 +0200 > > > This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in > > version 28.1 of Emacs. > > Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 28.1. > > > > One of these two sentences is redundant. I think if we have > > information to produce the first one, the second one should be > > omitted. > > Now fixed. Thanks. But I still see both sentences, albeit in a different order: This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in version 28.1 of Emacs. You can customize this variable. Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 28.1. > > While at that, bonus points for moving this stuff to after the actual > > doc string (except when the value is very long and is shown at the > > end, in which case this information should be between the > > documentation and the value). > > Also done. Thanks. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Thanks. But I still see both sentences, albeit in a different order: > > This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in > version 28.1 of Emacs. > You can customize this variable [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50463 Cc: 50463@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Thanks. But I still see both sentences, albeit in a different order: > > This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in > version 28.1 of Emacs. > You can customize this variable. > Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 28.1. Is this after restarting Emacs? If you just reload the .el file, that's what you'll get, I think. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 08 04:10:13 2021 Received: (at 50463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2021 08:10:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58512 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNser-0004Na-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:10:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsep-0004NJ-Tj for 50463@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:10:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsek-0007aR-Pd; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:10:06 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1752 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsek-0000GA-CE; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:10:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:10:17 +0300 Message-Id: <835yvbo5cm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <8735qf5wtm.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:51:49 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#50463: 28.0.50; Redundant version information in *Help* buffers References: <83v93cnsrb.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnnr7e7r.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6kno6bm.fsf@gnu.org> <8735qf5wtm.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50463 Cc: 50463@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 50463@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:51:49 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Thanks. But I still see both sentences, albeit in a different order: > > > > This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in > > version 28.1 of Emacs. > > You can customize this variable. > > Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 28.1. > > Is this after restarting Emacs? If you just reload the .el file, that's > what you'll get, I think. It's in a fresh session started after rebuilding, yes. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 08 04:14:42 2021 Received: (at 50463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2021 08:14:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58524 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsjC-0004UN-73 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:14:42 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsj9-0004U9-4b for 50463@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:14:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/0QIusEuoE8C9bx27zffMqSneGrWtemObQkJFlKFKG4=; b=P7JVZS6HR8ry8Q3xeOTKhyFRer XvqUfGR9Bxj82g1qTcWATlF59V3r0ajZbuE0PEujBvov2+mV3euRsnFGoKFSGEgSGk/mNfbsR9YkZ eSddV6S3cjpiQIJibAu9Puk7RPlgY2/ivbHfya6WBEEsN79i5LrsIqalXepP3+xNl02c=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsj0-0000cJ-K8; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:14:32 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#50463: 28.0.50; Redundant version information in *Help* buffers References: <83v93cnsrb.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnnr7e7r.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6kno6bm.fsf@gnu.org> <8735qf5wtm.fsf@gnus.org> <835yvbo5cm.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:14:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <835yvbo5cm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:10:17 +0300") Message-ID: <87k0jr4h7d.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > It's in a fresh session started after rebuilding, yes. It worked by accident in my test cases. I've now pushed a fix that should make this work reliably. 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I've now pushed a fix that should make this work reliably. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 08 04:16:34 2021 Received: (at 50463-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2021 08:16:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58528 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsl0-0005sp-HT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:16:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57674) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsky-0005mv-J9 for 50463-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:16:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNskt-0004oF-CV; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:16:27 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2143 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNsks-0000zr-VY; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:16:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:16:38 +0300 Message-Id: <834kavo521.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87k0jr4h7d.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:14:30 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#50463: 28.0.50; Redundant version information in *Help* buffers References: <83v93cnsrb.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnnr7e7r.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6kno6bm.fsf@gnu.org> <8735qf5wtm.fsf@gnus.org> <835yvbo5cm.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0jr4h7d.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50463-done Cc: 50463-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 50463@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:14:30 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > It's in a fresh session started after rebuilding, yes. > > It worked by accident in my test cases. I've now pushed a fix that > should make this work reliably. Thanks, it works now. So I'm closing this bug. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:49:38 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator