From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: ghe@sdf.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: gregory heytings X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Xcc: gregory heytings Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.163081968828011 (code B ref -1); Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:29:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 05:28:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48966 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMkhM-0007Hj-5K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 01:28:08 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMkhJ-0007Ha-Hr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 01:28:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46180) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMkhJ-000238-0j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 01:28:05 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f171.google.com ([209.85.210.171]:39618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMkhH-0000Uo-Op for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 01:28:04 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f171.google.com with SMTP id e16so2922562pfc.6 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 22:28:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=saVqKTcoEPa0sHxmPrFxfv1vP9+WWpOIE2OY1dKTj6Q=; b=PrUnUw5lwx1iFfY/9lATzwO8TRhK4yOa7O9CebkbzgkEXIv2gt7i6RxUPA4FjaWDLp fGBTIDK4ABvhw4HavIRHtMATesQAZoFc9XlmWnJIgzZyeqxzf12nJh2Zk0ITXkGsxJSd R2SP9C0ZEbobQkXpOfdt04dYVN2zgkWrVU+Zf4SG08FMhHVI/j4ESQ3+p0mGAPFdrBCD f1g59mBPWfjjOxvdF7co3F/zWMTwu2z447nMmhyxWNtsymiUi07eCyyupXPYJYu1LABx V+6RZExGk5ck8wR+2SU9pTRlQv230/8VaJygeiiYAZ/6LIuCal8RCCH1Y28TO05A3xMv 48qw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530IIUhKuJVD/3W+HwsTtyxol78TK0sINli8plkKHF/Z2O08w2uv P+8Sn6VB7B+OCoVUR8rv7GM/gkq0ONUlmDW6yeLCDpLGv0E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwhFduLadsJ+Ax3aEMHXVXJ6U3VceRlEPZ6Ou+QVbJhtTGNYsk2/6EfRWnZjePxwX/3I+L2Tn8nGtTv2jdYW9Q= X-Received: by 2002:a63:f650:: with SMTP id u16mr6208521pgj.359.1630819682096; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 22:28:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 07:27:50 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.210.171; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-f171.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_05=-0.5, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: Gregory Heytings Could we please make this NEWS entry easier to understand: ** Completion List Mode New key bindings have been added: 'n' and 'p' to navigate completions, and 'M-g M-c' to switch to the minibuffer, and you can also switch back to the completion list buffer with 'M-g M-c'. I suspect that most users have no idea what is "completion list mode", as IIUC it is an implementation detail. They would be helped more if this instead referred to "the default completion window" or somesuch (assuming that's what this is about). From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 06:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: ghe@sdf.org, 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.163082408711394 (code B ref 50394); Sun, 05 Sep 2021 06:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 06:41:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMlqJ-0002xh-7U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 02:41:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36174) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMlqH-0002xV-8X for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 02:41:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMlqB-0003EY-KF; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 02:41:19 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2453 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMlqB-0001sY-53; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 02:41:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 09:41:20 +0300 Message-Id: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 5 Sep 2021 07:27:50 +0200) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 07:27:50 +0200 > Cc: gregory heytings > > ** Completion List Mode > New key bindings have been added: 'n' and 'p' to navigate completions, > and 'M-g M-c' to switch to the minibuffer, and you can also switch back > to the completion list buffer with 'M-g M-c'. > > I suspect that most users have no idea what is "completion list mode", If they don't, they could just do C-h f completion-list-mode RET and read there. > as IIUC it is an implementation detail. ??? No, it's a complete major mode, according to its doc string. From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 07:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: ghe@sdf.org, 50394@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.163082836226410 (code B ref 50394); Sun, 05 Sep 2021 07:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 07:52:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49095 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMmxG-0006ru-BD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 03:52:42 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49010) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMmxF-0006rg-5R for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 03:52:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZDntIjBUKNfMIB1AJwbKYR1uSpZR0pCvChFEFa74pxI=; b=XviVFVh8TvOjE/nZPE9nURL99v 9cw2ABYgl6t162LeL9sGvsFIeHY04WWQ30t5GatwlWqF7v1V/3Q+Nta/3QX0MccOX1wiAkK+Sfeyw Q/PxfBEunLEmTDmLLAFutsCT+q4/4uhWUuIw6MLSygo8b1f/j92P7xzrrX7lG8HSxPh0=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mMmx6-000362-6F; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 09:52:34 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 09:52:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 05 Sep 2021 09:41:20 +0300") Message-ID: <871r63pigw.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> as IIUC it is an implementation detail. > > ??? No, it's a complete major mode, according to its doc string. I was also confused by that entry -- perhaps changing it to something to emphasise that it's an actual mode would help. I.e.: Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> as IIUC it is an implementation detail. > > ??? No, it's a complete major mode, according to its doc string. I was also confused by that entry -- perhaps changing it to something to emphasise that it's an actual mode would help. I.e.: ** Completion List Mode New key bindings have been added to 'completion-list-mode': 'n' and 'p' to navigate completions, (etc) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 09:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: ghe@sdf.org, 50394@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.163083395612258 (code B ref 50394); Sun, 05 Sep 2021 09:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 09:25:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49209 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMoPT-0003Be-MQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:25:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50970) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMoPS-0003BS-AO for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:25:54 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58650) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMoPL-0005vk-LQ; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:25:47 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4653 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMoPH-0006iv-Hg; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:25:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:25:45 +0300 Message-Id: <83zgsrtluu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871r63pigw.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 05 Sep 2021 09:52:31 +0200) References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> <871r63pigw.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Stefan Kangas , ghe@sdf.org, 50394@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 09:52:31 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> as IIUC it is an implementation detail. > > > > ??? No, it's a complete major mode, according to its doc string. > > I was also confused by that entry -- perhaps changing it to something to > emphasise that it's an actual mode would help. I.e.: > > ** Completion List Mode > > New key bindings have been added to 'completion-list-mode': 'n' and 'p' > to navigate completions, (etc) Sure, if that helps, why not. I thought the conversion from a mode's name to its Lisp symbol was something widely known. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> ** Completion List Mode >> >> New key bindings have been added to 'completion-list-mode': 'n' and 'p' >> to navigate completions, (etc) > > Sure, if that helps, why not. I thought the conversion fr [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> ** Completion List Mode >> >> New key bindings have been added to 'completion-list-mode': 'n' and 'p' >> to navigate completions, (etc) > > Sure, if that helps, why not. I thought the conversion from a mode's > name to its Lisp symbol was something widely known. It is -- it's just that this mode's name sounds like it might be something else, i.e., not a "mode" in the Emacs sense, but a way to change the way completion works. 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I'll update the NEWS entry. Thanks. From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 18:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Gregory Heytings , 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.16308661428546 (code B ref 50394); Sun, 05 Sep 2021 18:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 18:22:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51003 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMwmb-0002Dm-Vc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 14:22:22 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:55187) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMwmZ-0002DY-TN for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 14:22:20 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f41.google.com with SMTP id fs6so2894457pjb.4 for <50394@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 11:22:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DojVohKAhPUT4W8spXcGeMIVOYGrWuXwJVC5FP1hV5U=; b=iYv8GjKyy0ZUqW3kc1raczIWTusFcNX/9gX/JqqHTZdBA2oQVNLZoGvqEknrW6D304 EEujsvNlKF2xScXMi3uqGl/gy5Mc+hQ7XevqxNf3z0ABxiFdgiyDzsE6BsBT/pOjyfVX Cb1LD7TYWBnXpryvvXHoGjy+oqPv5SD6vSCqxgw16EnJYrddEKo8heVnLRIRuZgAgqR3 /1DTYkOmmYphJIAcEkBVXY6DKt7D1UgkJ2hVlvY2+eB22EnK3/EbhKv4vLRkRAOA906V loAfVpbSFCSzvp+X0M9guhAMEqn42P5Zxg3f1UeqM7Yk3Yh2B+vxcvw8q74+LbZvBd0U wu4w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532e1qDKOqWZ49yZ2yTH8CiysBl0nmPc1Zzb0wxB0eDTPDJ1vWT7 TT9hVpbWj1QUbVV6WYcb/txmr13Hka7WxdXbW7w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzOK4o/3xba9pVSsfTXRxI7g/nTI+Vqk2z4kLGSsFLH9vBm05pzxhD/qjenh1TbSBQjetjNAVVbov683I0opMc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3812:: with SMTP id mq18mr13715pjb.143.1630866134175; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 11:22:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 20:22:03 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > > ** Completion List Mode > > New key bindings have been added: 'n' and 'p' to navigate completions, > > and 'M-g M-c' to switch to the minibuffer, and you can also switch back > > to the completion list buffer with 'M-g M-c'. > > > > I suspect that most users have no idea what is "completion list mode", > > If they don't, they could just do > > C-h f completion-list-mode RET > > and read there. I don't think that should be needed for such basic functionality. I changed the headline from the nondescript 'Completion List Mode' to 'Improved navigation in the "*Completions*" buffer"'. I think that makes things sufficiently clear without having to look elsewhere. From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 18:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: ghe@sdf.org, 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.16308666519389 (code B ref 50394); Sun, 05 Sep 2021 18:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 18:30:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51013 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMwup-0002RN-02 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 14:30:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMwum-0002R7-H8 for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 14:30:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMwug-0004oT-BP; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 14:30:42 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2802 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMwug-0005xj-26; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 14:30:42 -0400 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 21:30:47 +0300 Message-Id: <838s0aub6w.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 5 Sep 2021 20:22:03 +0200) References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 20:22:03 +0200 > Cc: 50394@debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > ** Completion List Mode > > > New key bindings have been added: 'n' and 'p' to navigate completions, > > > and 'M-g M-c' to switch to the minibuffer, and you can also switch back > > > to the completion list buffer with 'M-g M-c'. > > > > > > I suspect that most users have no idea what is "completion list mode", > > > > If they don't, they could just do > > > > C-h f completion-list-mode RET > > > > and read there. > > I don't think that should be needed for such basic functionality. Which basic functionality are you alluding to here? > I changed the headline from the nondescript 'Completion List Mode' to > 'Improved navigation in the "*Completions*" buffer"'. I think that > makes things sufficiently clear without having to look elsewhere. Sorry, I don't follow. This is in the section whose headline is "Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in Emacs 28.1", right? And each item in that section names a mode or a package, right? So what's wrong with having a headline there which says "Completion List Mode"? it's a mode, right? Or what am I missing? From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Gregory Heytings , 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.163086938913487 (code B ref 50394); Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 19:16:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51048 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMxcz-0003VT-Ah for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 15:16:29 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f52.google.com ([209.85.216.52]:41934) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMxcu-0003V7-2x for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 15:16:27 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f52.google.com with SMTP id z24-20020a17090acb1800b0018e87a24300so3154531pjt.0 for <50394@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:16:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5UiKI6fgwZRah7c70sgM8s+/otrU/x0QamOKEm3dl7Y=; b=ZTm4ZBG0oUloVAd/MVAqkFIdp5CN1so/gvLL3rbcLGezPBSygS4uWM/TrNp2utf2Uw gPNIKkuSTzY1xVbwpShjllyGkRhvEaRwGNvI/t8gyqyzR/79OS5YSh22OcyvcFJIuwBd qPQT1i9769LrBdJlmbOfinv/ACTZxKE60NVumMHoUVe/e1M6ot042Qz01J+aZ2cwlXRY y2swVRug/SHw8Ns7Igbwm6TxXnROyQ7A/RuoCTlCa6wyRUyZhV4NeU62ISpmuZ40TsJA 5Q/a047LDAtAEg7Ua6vPUFJgj+O6mdfsYtk4qovGBpq4SD+knG7bR5UaYHKK18O8G9tD yfAA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533fmDiVqlNxNllp0C1NkVL7gi40pEXOFt6qmmFdygF5yvTnihW9 4dR08ohZns5EvOOWjosM1jlEOqB8f915FaKcx0U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxSWEyDQozkLCV3rJ9vIcEoU+tUvWLnAzO6UnOJ4vyy3ntOYdT3gJxCaM7pyE3A67r4Ml37I/j2gr1azWwxxo4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:7c42:: with SMTP id e2mr10137599pjl.132.1630869378360; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:16:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> <838s0aub6w.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <838s0aub6w.fsf@gnu.org> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 21:16:06 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Which basic functionality are you alluding to here? Command completion, 'M-x TAB'. > > I changed the headline from the nondescript 'Completion List Mode' to > > 'Improved navigation in the "*Completions*" buffer"'. I think that > > makes things sufficiently clear without having to look elsewhere. > > Sorry, I don't follow. This is in the section whose headline is > "Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in Emacs 28.1", right? And > each item in that section names a mode or a package, right? So what's > wrong with having a headline there which says "Completion List Mode"? > it's a mode, right? > > Or what am I missing? Sorry to be unclear. Because this is about basic functionality it should not be under "Specialized Modes and Packages" but under "Changes in Emacs". So I moved it there (or that is my intention, at least). Even if we kept it there, things under there usually do not have this format: * Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in Emacs 28.1 ... ** Library Name Text describing a particular feature See NEWS.27, etc. for examples. From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: ghe@sdf.org, 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.163086981014102 (code B ref 50394); Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 19:23:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMxjm-0003fO-2p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 15:23:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46824) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMxjj-0003fB-Qz for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 15:23:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMxjd-0005aj-Kw; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 15:23:21 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2049 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMxjd-0007i9-8F; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 15:23:21 -0400 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 22:23:23 +0300 Message-Id: <835yveu8r8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 5 Sep 2021 21:16:06 +0200) References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> <838s0aub6w.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 21:16:06 +0200 > Cc: 50394@debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Which basic functionality are you alluding to here? > > Command completion, 'M-x TAB'. > > > > I changed the headline from the nondescript 'Completion List Mode' to > > > 'Improved navigation in the "*Completions*" buffer"'. I think that > > > makes things sufficiently clear without having to look elsewhere. > > > > Sorry, I don't follow. This is in the section whose headline is > > "Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in Emacs 28.1", right? And > > each item in that section names a mode or a package, right? So what's > > wrong with having a headline there which says "Completion List Mode"? > > it's a mode, right? > > > > Or what am I missing? > > Sorry to be unclear. Because this is about basic functionality it > should not be under "Specialized Modes and Packages" but under > "Changes in Emacs". So I moved it there (or that is my intention, at > least). But the entry specifically talks about key bindings in that particular mode, so I still don't see why you think it should in a more general section. > Even if we kept it there, things under there usually do not have this format: > > * Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in Emacs 28.1 > ... > ** Library Name > Text describing a particular feature > > See NEWS.27, etc. for examples. Are the examples you have in mind in NEWS (i.e. Emacs 28) or in NEWS.27? Or maybe just show a couple of examples of "Library Name" so I wouldn't need to look them up? And in any case, is that relevant to the issue at hand, or is that a separate issue? Thanks. From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 08:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Gregory Heytings , 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.16309164939506 (code B ref 50394); Mon, 06 Sep 2021 08:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 08:21:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51641 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mN9sj-0002TG-BC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:21:33 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]:44958) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mN9sh-0002Sy-KS for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:21:32 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f181.google.com with SMTP id d18so2367753pll.11 for <50394@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 01:21:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AZcXysv4t/dWm37qJSDxjXZzgDGgkGyg7oA+kpCtYLE=; b=qj/kYvVR+jfAetZFy3UcPJFV8vRBhFKGPoU/36lU/PgmzjR2QBHFEIp/oO+mkhqMXI vIkeG8um2+E+k1v76Xqklg7tyqRpw1YpacVinakx7tVqYVq+1sM+9UCvunXoHBDIrnxk ntN6SOw8PwKznIsx73kUt9duOOR0+0rX9uXIc8ximwPBs5Dvje7n5jqQytKRWygtrcaW fVJKFFH23Suifp9QlEd14UbZ6n32MKNpJK2HHzYHvfHLXKUugN97JZxJ0H4snqXMhohm p21eE3K8zVpf8v+y/8pnmH6YcM8frk3jd5UDDGwCuhtdRJpxS/ICEE4vKhRsB6Qu1vGd CDGA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530q3Q3s0739ZmAF4kcATigvDk5Pn6QVdRT5GXjuaRTF0PW72g7s CDuqOByWvLedUQ8kJtMP655It/NMe9+FumszBac= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwhUWOxFmHvd6Bpa5ieN2YPwejhhBLcSyt8yn0umbcYuSdLwJHyk2dd8ZJeGOXT6M94J30f2wcYHG2uQKQLwao= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b691:b029:12d:2b6:d116 with SMTP id c17-20020a170902b691b029012d02b6d116mr9856098pls.71.1630916485526; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 01:21:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> <838s0aub6w.fsf@gnu.org> <835yveu8r8.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <835yveu8r8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 10:21:14 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > But the entry specifically talks about key bindings in that particular > mode, so I still don't see why you think it should in a more general > section. This is often the problem with trying to find a good taxonomy: things end up fitting in more than one category. In this case, I am trying to think about where a user would be most helped by seeing it. I believe this change will be visible enough all over Emacs to warrant a more prominent location. If that doesn't convince, I suppose it will have to be where it is. The important part that remains is an explanation along the lines "Improved navigation in the "*Completions*" buffer". If this is uncontroversial, I intend to add such a clarification. From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 08:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: Gregory Heytings , Eli Zaretskii , 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.163091686010245 (code B ref 50394); Mon, 06 Sep 2021 08:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 08:27:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51671 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mN9ye-0002fB-CC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:27:40 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:32936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mN9yc-0002ex-3p for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:27:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=eIupwIU7wmsuOvMacZJC9mmn5/6RrWH66syFlhlmMeU=; b=T/LDKfFPoD4hcsaqlL1jg53iqN /Qrop5EkeUd2K16r3N3+7Cgv0BG6PfdCD9IYiEYzCtT8WSimZ/lSY5sQUXwX/LfSQjXQmiGfz6D90 buYIa/9nwJ8z0/C/AlEKYQkv5WoAEmhkIc+dTRvgsLZUC2D5CVvqaHFmrq7Wsjrwp2oA=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mN9yT-0007qv-54; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 10:27:31 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> <838s0aub6w.fsf@gnu.org> <835yveu8r8.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 10:27:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 6 Sep 2021 10:21:14 +0200") Message-ID: <87k0jukt1r.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > The important part that remains is an explanation along the lines > "Improved navigation in the "*Completions*" buffer". If this is > uncontroversial, I intend to add such a clarification. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas writes: > The important part that remains is an explanation along the lines > "Improved navigation in the "*Completions*" buffer". If this is > uncontroversial, I intend to add such a clarification. That's a good clarification. I guess most users won't be aware of there being a particular major mode in the *Completions* buffer. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50394: Improve "Completion List Mode" NEWS entry Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 23:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50394 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Gregory Heytings , Eli Zaretskii , 50394@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50394-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50394.163097224010436 (code B ref 50394); Mon, 06 Sep 2021 23:51:01 +0000 Received: (at 50394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 23:50:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54750 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNONs-0002iG-BX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 19:50:40 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f43.google.com ([209.85.216.43]:45804) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNONm-0002hx-28 for 50394@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 19:50:39 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f43.google.com with SMTP id f11-20020a17090aa78b00b0018e98a7cddaso846248pjq.4 for <50394@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 16:50:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cL0Fmi+9729trx7qeQndlLcRg1jf23kjDVVxBzMEljQ=; b=Hdov5TagdQCON1sqw9kbcs7tHSpDeblIItO2pTdXUipYCuRCejEpUxD/9HIU1LZ/2C shtiM6VRWA6mca7XZL5ABG2euF42fu10a4yiqSbbpvN8pDOArPyoipirlj0l0NRQ98CW 2tznvrc9HCuqR7GxfCTQx8BKhRlAY8srhQHjZt3CnlzogTmk+AFrma1j80ljjkDL+La1 WB3EQfEG00Y4/Gh9LBYT0Px0IWjeLUzeel7eGi4UpME/Q2X1Xagh0RKqwkGV7d4yJVZ+ UruRtOZUb75kUB7LOWfEAKvaHWt7an6PmGQ9oorqYYwRJiY2/c5TtQJ+6Je5XryrzVwx LR9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532YBUe2g0wWZEbl46+lqPgb8cgj0CV7xSTNTy07yNqXmWOs7ERe 7gWntm6QcthwSwikiUCqucu4jcJ7dYWi9fqoPI0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzl4IlSbYmsN07h4ZKcaaQRguaenNDxpTeRIeGAkwzl6vj7ksh5UWZ8aQxImm7Kwz2uvR1Zwkq71kv4tJp2KWM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b691:b029:12d:2b6:d116 with SMTP id c17-20020a170902b691b029012d02b6d116mr12497315pls.71.1630972228114; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 16:50:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83a6krv81b.fsf@gnu.org> <838s0aub6w.fsf@gnu.org> <835yveu8r8.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0jukt1r.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87k0jukt1r.fsf@gnus.org> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 01:50:16 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > The important part that remains is an explanation along the lines > > "Improved navigation in the "*Completions*" buffer". If this is > > uncontroversial, I intend to add such a clarification. > > That's a good clarification. I guess most users won't be aware of there > being a particular major mode in the *Completions* buffer. Thanks, now pushed to master. This makes it even more clear that the entry is still in the wrong place IMO, but there we are.