From unknown Tue Sep 09 21:32:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50311: 27.2; calc-grab-sum-down and calc-grab-sum-across should be autoloaded. 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[108.26.204.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c10sm11720414qtb.20.2021.08.31.21.07.46 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 31 Aug 2021 21:07:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Melman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 00:07:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::731; envelope-from=hmelman@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-x731.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I think calc-grab-sum-down and calc-grab-sum-across should be = autoloaded. calc-grab-region and in particular calc-grab-rectangle are autoloaded = and the sum down and across functions are (according to the manual) both = more convenient and faster than using calc-grab-rectangle for these = common functions. Having emacs autoload them would let other packages bind these commands = to keys without having to worry about requiring calc which could take a = while to load even if it's not called or constructing their own autoload = calls for them in order to prevent users from getting errors. In GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, Carbon Version = 158 AppKit 1671.6) of 2021-03-27 built on Traviss-Mac.local --=20 Howard From unknown Tue Sep 09 21:32:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#50311: 27.2; calc-grab-sum-down and calc-grab-sum-across should be autoloaded. Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 08:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50311 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Howard Melman Cc: 50311@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 50311-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50311.1630484111848 (code B ref 50311); Wed, 01 Sep 2021 08:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 50311) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2021 08:15:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36173 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLOo-0000DM-Pn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 04:15:10 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57274) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLOn-000078-PX for 50311@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 04:15:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6ZJLy5ppFfd+5zXNr+vn2RYuhnLeFEpJuMLv4qYUlaI=; b=QXnFqI3f2WfwfC3GTAXsBCsEO5 uKRU8GR1DLf1uKC6IlJ7ECysxn2rdGJiZzGO8dZ5Tx8XM/yd7EN3qpxoWsorG/O7iAps7lciA/+Pi /9QH9G64/nqtvTWJ6gqTNlG8Bf0BQ2KBXj/n/IJ65+u/8QFQhiuGpJs5ZoA7Z+eInrgA=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLOd-000167-LV; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:15:03 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:14:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Howard Melman's message of "Wed, 1 Sep 2021 00:07:46 -0400") Message-ID: <87eea8hfuk.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Howard Melman writes: > I think calc-grab-sum-down and calc-grab-sum-across should be autoloaded. > > calc-grab-region and in particular calc-grab-rectangle are autoloaded > and the sum down and across functions are (accor [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Howard Melman writes: > I think calc-grab-sum-down and calc-grab-sum-across should be autoloaded. > > calc-grab-region and in particular calc-grab-rectangle are autoloaded > and the sum down and across functions are (according to the manual) > both more convenient and faster than using calc-grab-rectangle for > these common functions. Makes sense to me; I've now autoloaded them in Emacs 28. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 01 04:15:15 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2021 08:15:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36176 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLOt-0000Hs-0C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 04:15:15 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57288) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLOr-0000Au-FT for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 04:15:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=1rYLL79l8LBh/JiuqMUSBhJl7iAKlH57xLJqkRKU/to=; b=UVETMqiCEaomn6LAuJWZtf2UjT wpO/tgKxwqP6/2aFgqABAN+9yXdlpYcNYkS7/gb49PidTFo981QCXloqkow2TL+UzzhW1zBT0VXPH zbqP1R7oPHsU9Anlu9P5jKpgwpHcLVrRPMVdRNM7oGRARVoPYaAeQ7+wJfeFeHXlMySY=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLOj-00016z-MW for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:15:07 +0200 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:15:05 +0200 Message-Id: <87czpshfue.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #50311 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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