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Mon, 30 Aug 2021 10:07:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Rogers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <24877.4196.703337.360137@orion.rgrjr.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:07:48 -0400 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; ffap-file-finder customization no longer works X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 28.0.50 Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::832; envelope-from=rogers@rgrjr.com; helo=mail-qt1-x832.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) I have a long-standing customization to ffap-file-finder which offers external applications depending on file extension that is broken by the following commit: commit 253b36bd40d1b342cdda09b0bee183788120f67e Author: dickmao Date: Tue Aug 3 12:02:48 2021 -0400 ffap ido accommodation Now that ffap-file-finder can be ido-find-file, the noninteractive portion of find-file-at-point cannot assume ffap-file-finder always takes an argument (ido-find-file does not). * lisp/ffap.el (find-file-at-point): Do not call ffap-file-finder. * test/lisp/ffap-tests.el (ffap-ido-mode): Test it. The essence of the change is that it does find-file at the critical point instead of funcalling ffap-file-finder. I assume that breaking such extensions was not the intent, as it is an incompatible change to a defcustom variable, and there is no associated NEWS entry. -- Bob Rogers http://www.rgrjr.com/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 30 21:59:49 2021 Received: (at 50279) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2021 01:59:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mKt40-0002zH-T9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:59:49 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41396) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mKt3y-0002yx-2u for 50279@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:59:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=sTgrxqEMVcb6L4i2+g082pznkVpOz4bbvDUfjRJlpmg=; b=U5ZGpUufS+ujTwHvk7Aut1hTb+ cHt3raXsdLqPCq4gAQKygrRJ5VTJuWIF5NO4g/RXodBa4LTjKIJVhZdm1kIW/8vdUCAPvX8MZNjCL 2Ld3Dcg88P4qFHY7uVswgbutc3qxJXAv2idwun95s5mEQrogafar4tc3huT1JZm/jt+s=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mKt3m-0005XT-ME; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 03:59:39 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Bob Rogers Subject: Re: bug#50279: 28.0.50; ffap-file-finder customization no longer works References: <24877.4196.703337.360137@orion.rgrjr.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 03:59:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <24877.4196.703337.360137@orion.rgrjr.com> (Bob Rogers's message of "Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:07:48 -0400") Message-ID: <87r1ea5q7t.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Bob Rogers writes: > I have a long-standing customization to ffap-file-finder which offers > external applications depending on file extension that is broken by the > following commit: > > commit 253b36bd40d1b342cdda09b [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50279 Cc: 50279@debbugs.gnu.org, dick.r.chiang@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Bob Rogers writes: > I have a long-standing customization to ffap-file-finder which offers > external applications depending on file extension that is broken by the > following commit: > > commit 253b36bd40d1b342cdda09b0bee183788120f67e > Author: dickmao > Date: Tue Aug 3 12:02:48 2021 -0400 > > ffap ido accommodation Do you have a test case that demonstrates the breakage? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 30 23:44:19 2021 Received: (at 50279) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2021 03:44:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mKuh5-0005pD-HZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:44:19 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42566) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mKuh0-0005ow-5d for 50279@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:44:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=WWWt9nCEQRaeGTc7P4iaSvmBeHhem1Sgils+rDo/zp8=; b=YHInRQmVkEg1bW5Y9759gtPXlp PZwZwD/91QIf6UgHKMVX+iZ3jEiPAQ8KduAVR7l51z4vSqs6ZcH1oyZEccI97SiQ5esAHswgNLbQj IWDVsZP1ycifAZEdw3IzToz1SemTHhkt19RdGd4wmqnVmxtaBjZR6r7BgdS8713hCjDo=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mKugp-0006jD-3v; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 05:44:03 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Bob Rogers Subject: Re: bug#50279: 28.0.50; ffap-file-finder customization no longer works References: <24877.4196.703337.360137@orion.rgrjr.com> <87r1ea5q7t.fsf@gnus.org> <24877.41211.907036.418118@orion.rgrjr.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 05:43:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <24877.41211.907036.418118@orion.rgrjr.com> (Bob Rogers's message of "Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:24:43 -0400") Message-ID: <87ilzmjn2a.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Bob Rogers writes: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 03:59:34 +0200 > > Do you have a test case that demonstrates the breakage? > > I can reproduce this using my full customizations, bu [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50279 Cc: 50279@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) (Re-sending the mail to the bug tracker.) 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But it worked when I built > emacs on 31-Jul (d3d6ea50d2) and didn't when I next built it on 11-Aug > (3b5f8ab0d0), and I don't see any other change to ffap.el that might > explain the difference. > > I'll be out of town tomorrow, so I'll have to give this another look > on Wednesday. > > -- Bob From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 01 04:42:03 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2021 08:42:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36235 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLol-00055L-7y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 04:42:03 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLog-000555-QZ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 04:41:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tqSW7zNPf8nPd4pMeWL5cEVDADBoHCxWzqYmla63U1A=; b=OdYoqt5KJC8G3o56NJ4nl7QMF8 nMYEi1wn7lDuAHPxqiAc0ZqQi4NHV0IJdBED8NpBZWqmcCf9LQCAGm40mIQSu9irGd8iM/Ck6PdUZ 0/Slb7qDrss+IQes+TiK8vTexRKJCwb0PHgYQ+DVQu/wBUkvnsy4J3ymW2k2Tv4kEJ/U=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLoY-0003s4-Vk for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:41:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:41:46 +0200 Message-Id: <87sfyog01h.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #50279 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> I can reproduce this using my full customizations, but not in emacs -Q >> with an excerpt of my code. More precisely, the problem reproduces, but >> not the desired behavior after reverting the cha [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50279 Cc: 50279@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> I can reproduce this using my full customizations, but not in emacs -Q >> with an excerpt of my code. More precisely, the problem reproduces, but >> not the desired behavior after reverting the change. And indeed, >> looking closer at the code, I don't understand why reverting this >> particular change should make a difference. But it worked when I built >> emacs on 31-Jul (d3d6ea50d2) and didn't when I next built it on 11-Aug >> (3b5f8ab0d0), and I don't see any other change to ffap.el that might >> explain the difference. >> >> I'll be out of town tomorrow, so I'll have to give this another look >> on Wednesday. This was a month ago -- did you make any further progress in debugging this? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 12:11:26 2021 Received: (at 50279) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2021 16:11:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49972 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVcB4-000591-1j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:11:26 -0400 Received: from mail-qv1-f47.google.com ([209.85.219.47]:39690) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVcB1-00058j-No for 50279@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:11:25 -0400 Received: by mail-qv1-f47.google.com with SMTP id a14so1769949qvb.6 for <50279@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 09:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rgrjr-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=from:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:references; bh=5P9HHRKIDugGSVZ5R2/rMGJwzxXi296u+ANHLujZ+yc=; b=jrZLjLdHXTs450lEHQNTi/dEoZCqP6Xhg0P6gWWe5xlzccnXLgqfjBB67zuXFTcJQw oVsCqmlhQOsJ4FckGn1v49Bk0bC3/mEmQHvyiNi+nU30lfRtfHwxGpMjvi0pN0y4ysMm dYH9rsCKymI5DUwasSThTp8H2p6q+lKh0E81crPnrBeavKiJ1I/lq+LW3UIXzAJOEAZh NBtBBFcB2DL7exqxRRvFAjXeeHv4qiP9NjqVpX/fGn1x/bewYQRgdTgDi4naqjNaCxmH CxSrZjYfepFo06Fhwm/JrLW5/XRm/xOIKgyDBOlSxzlkqZ5QG4fcfa6bzg5Frel5n9jv gFqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references; bh=5P9HHRKIDugGSVZ5R2/rMGJwzxXi296u+ANHLujZ+yc=; b=5g4Vb3zwRlsJYJCzm1wzQZhRgqCw1a9y1mdJQsdB83z7WycMCW7nai28D7q/a9x2Kq PU33CAfvvcEUQi4cizN1tiPd5Dw1FYOQrnqIzucm7ajdBbw0Et9Zc8fcLhC4QkMS64D2 mlsFjsNRovWU3xshIGyfkW+9DNJrqwc/VPXyHOzi2rqpVoTHuuoxxKf8Ud/qAUUtckJ9 IswXVCkGLUhyYjv2IQr/ys2FJqku79XSnW+qcefwypcXBEe55+CQionezOY4br0AHP3F brqfUbey/Cf/2cwltrCIHluOzCJOZt/xasKJamUDm1OFVQo5mzE0WKg7ahNBV0HRDXk8 UIYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532wnDEqplQducYI7XoeFjpAudAf5NLEOdQFhxj8s6o8omSq9dI4 70KOCc5kN8opPKuIUDYxlnwclg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw0EFzsYLKwKLEMzlI/0bQyIV44e2saZ3aiuZzpwwcEvgeowQNmsehdSmOxSkMbUnf5jPOqWw== X-Received: by 2002:ad4:4568:: with SMTP id o8mr858848qvu.21.1632931878062; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 09:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.rgrjr.com ([2601:19c:4600:3270:1eb7:2cff:fea9:e38b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r10sm141807qkk.95.2021.09.29.09.11.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 29 Sep 2021 09:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Rogers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <24916.36899.634409.375398@orion.rgrjr.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:11:15 -0400 To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#50279: 28.0.50; ffap-file-finder customization no longer works In-Reply-To: <87y27f8j4j.fsf@gnus.org> References: <24877.4196.703337.360137@orion.rgrjr.com> <87r1ea5q7t.fsf@gnus.org> <24877.41211.907036.418118@orion.rgrjr.com> <87ilzmjn2a.fsf@gnus.org> <87y27f8j4j.fsf@gnus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 28.0.50 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50279 Cc: 50279@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 18:02:52 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> I can reproduce this using my full customizations, but not in emacs -Q >> with an excerpt of my code. More precisely, the problem reproduces, but >> not the desired behavior after reverting the change. And indeed, >> looking closer at the code, I don't understand why reverting this >> particular change should make a difference. But it worked when I built >> emacs on 31-Jul (d3d6ea50d2) and didn't when I next built it on 11-Aug >> (3b5f8ab0d0), and I don't see any other change to ffap.el that might >> explain the difference. >> >> I'll be out of town tomorrow, so I'll have to give this another look >> on Wednesday. This was a month ago -- did you make any further progress in debugging this? It definitely has to do with my initializations, but I've been swamped for the last three weeks and unable to get any further. I should be able to get back to it this week. -- Bob From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 30 02:09:24 2021 Received: (at 50279) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2021 06:09:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVpG0-0000RL-I7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 02:09:24 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:38064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVpFw-0000R0-M1 for 50279@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 02:09:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=1aMVMg67s+37bwRo0u2ROEO54LEbWOvQTOE1e6zE/QU=; b=Wd/ws7DIgZFix9bpt0qZDq+sd2 D4Xt/QSC5RPPW17RuanhePAORlaZS/CuYqqinbVehIUGykAv+ETDnXKh3X8JGMW70dCf7o0EE890m /ooQkODCigY+AB/XGzDX+54R0SJXXwGJCQ+uh8odF0/ofTnxabI3N1e+X9/pxHGAYkc0=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVpFn-0002Kk-5y; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:09:13 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Bob Rogers Subject: Re: bug#50279: 28.0.50; ffap-file-finder customization no longer works References: <24877.4196.703337.360137@orion.rgrjr.com> <87r1ea5q7t.fsf@gnus.org> <24877.41211.907036.418118@orion.rgrjr.com> <87ilzmjn2a.fsf@gnus.org> <87y27f8j4j.fsf@gnus.org> <24916.36899.634409.375398@orion.rgrjr.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEW8v8V5fYQqKy// ///pLfJCAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+UJHgU7HW70I0YAAAF0SURBVCjPTZGxboNADIb/ Q8DAlEghSpk79SluaJmJlIsapg4hKjxF1LFTIhWkbhm4Suen7G+o2p4E1mefff5tAE5EBtEDiz3N u3yJeAApoQzqIhQ0ZqRrIKxFgvnQP6EWGU3fSV0DhnAzTl2MPIhc0qYOoSN0IufUs9p1BpvJSfyB OfpAJvvPdoupgbEWNyY7IGFvj11owh0j2pAppJfGwShZgvM7GBdJTxhcb+mOWI3NBlf9ALsItbbD h3hNfFtq+qFT6Ds/lTZxMY0B8yFQA0ub4FigmWeAKlHofq/l7h/Mc8G/44AFzTapqj9nEsKRhvKw 5Be/Vgbaq5mjJ1xda1RvvKKvtk9ea8Z5ZWGZuPaGsCjBxmIk3hISyHAptfSuOBDejqpwL9uihpzb iJG8FNeB+qeh9BVli035bCZjnPMazIvKDqtlRsBxmsEGicJ6WuUzLSG1014pjsuPrK7yYmLcqKDS yI05uod7hRH5JGszQ/wNWgOkQKnki5IAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMDktMzBUMDU6 NTk6MjgrMDA6MDB3yrnqAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA5LTMwVDA1OjU5OjI4KzAw OjAwBpcBVgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: The Notwist's _Storm_: "Sturm 2" Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:09:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <24916.36899.634409.375398@orion.rgrjr.com> (Bob Rogers's message of "Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:11:15 -0400") Message-ID: <877dey7fy4.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> It definitely has to do with my initializations, but I've been swamped >> for the last three weeks and unable to get any further. 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I should be >> able to get back to it this week. > > Great; there's no hurry. This was almost a year ago. Any progress? I spent a while trying bifurcation last winter with no result. I really do want to resolve this issue, but I just moved my family across the continent, and have barely had time to think for months now. Our furniture delivery has been delayed, so I've started to clean up some software loose ends (and catch up on emacs-devel); with any luck I may have time to look at this again. For once I have something to blame other than my world-class procrastination skills . . . -- Bob From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 23 06:01:02 2022 Received: (at 50279) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2022 10:01:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42648 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQQiU-0005Th-3A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 06:01:02 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:36706) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQQiS-0005TE-0G for 50279@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 06:01:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=frHDZw0Lhr/wpbm6Bwvj4HUAfXXzxxPxlYq0dXfMtRQ=; b=K9X0DHBVyhl11uWfOsO0oMHBmt eliaxIdQ+WgSbsT+g2UMNkWN2WNqHrhJ3goalETMRKcwkkS4LumisCHNGMz4gsWGD9hGetLMYY7Fv 0uh+GJPNcevxCdWOiIuyPyobyVZ/P53tBqq+lqv9pMwGYnxwRVy7Hn0lfLBg0XN68wbU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQQiJ-0007Ct-Gg; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 12:00:53 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Bob Rogers Subject: Re: bug#50279: 28.0.50; ffap-file-finder customization no longer works In-Reply-To: <25347.54339.422978.567767@orion.rgrjr.com> (Bob Rogers's message of "Mon, 22 Aug 2022 15:08:51 -0400") References: <24877.4196.703337.360137@orion.rgrjr.com> <87r1ea5q7t.fsf@gnus.org> <24877.41211.907036.418118@orion.rgrjr.com> <87ilzmjn2a.fsf@gnus.org> <87y27f8j4j.fsf@gnus.org> <24916.36899.634409.375398@orion.rgrjr.com> <877dey7fy4.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0701575.fsf@gnus.org> <25347.54339.422978.567767@orion.rgrjr.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUzGBdPKiJtTD+f emP///+YbcQvAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+YIFwkHALHn25AAAAGQSURBVDjLbZTbdcAg CEAlXQDIAgEXaGT/3QqiiUnKjx4vD3loKSFAiFC+QgEoVXA5r0YpEiCRq4H+7n5YAOzAsKAjQTGu tbHaVptqVbWTpYNqZq2Z1b1Z31utCarvm+0GvgmNVrX4HcGAqHmUHQEEaCMPExZ78zRc8MfcP1Hm E678KiRxr2qihDcoaRHInYwEaSyLJIEvKAuAj8FwlUewWMBcLhtEfAdnSdKPYAnOZ5zOGAvYzxF8 bZXrdwu5ol+ZVwfMOmPcrgLQAhYLLyArf10pbhIWD1CIN+9386YLPWMgn2a935iZDABsvzEHpoY5 c7O6bGcHZlIewbWmK3eW+lkxhqY2RfEqOwj6CKa+K5w3OBRa0yYdVlkadRTulVf1RNYEs4Fy9xaW uRJSVmF51gqnI34XMUTlDcYAuYW+qjs99RhrEZlF+zPzlsgcBowpogDsPXHQtaHktPR58yyF7q7j iIJjFpHyNcXidqQk0iuSgAotqfjU+VPrY4rX5wF97zW46rS8FChLcv/8Rh38AdXYQFTLI7H7AAAA JXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTA4LTIzVDA5OjA3OjAwKzAwOjAws9CHUwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0 ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wOC0yM1QwOTowNzowMCswMDowMMKNP+8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Fairport Convention's _Come All Ye (6)_: "Sir B. 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Great! Having finally gotten around to investigating this properly, I find that the solution should have been obvious: dickmao removed the feature in the following commit: commit 253b36bd40d1b342cdda09b0bee183788120f67e Author: dickmao Date: Tue Aug 3 12:02:48 2021 -0400 ffap ido accommodation Now that ffap-file-finder can be ido-find-file, the noninteractive portion of find-file-at-point cannot assume ffap-file-finder always takes an argument (ido-find-file does not). * lisp/ffap.el (find-file-at-point): Do not call ffap-file-finder. * test/lisp/ffap-tests.el (ffap-ido-mode): Test it. I no longer understand why we thought it could not be reproduced in "emacs -Q", as I can do so with the following code: (defun rgr-ffap-file-finder (file-name &optional wildcards) (interactive "FFind file: \np") (message "[got %S]" file-name) (find-file file-name wildcards)) (setq ffap-file-finder 'rgr-ffap-file-finder) and this recipe: 1. "emacs -Q" 2. Load the code above. 3. Locate a suitable file in dired (I used a JPEG). 4. Position point on the file name, and do "M-x ffap". The JPEG will appear in emacs but the "[got ...]" message will not appear. Additionally, find-file-at-point can be instrumented with the patch below. That will identify the exact find-file call being used, and is how I traced it to this commit. But of course resolving my issue without breaking dickmao's issue is beyond my pay grade. ;-} Though I do notice that ffap.el already has (memq ffap-file-finder '(find-file find-alternate-file)) as a way of testing for arg-handling capability. But maybe that's enough of a code smell. -- Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ diff --git a/lisp/ffap.el b/lisp/ffap.el index 88b4bce9fd..a4dec5e792 100644 --- a/lisp/ffap.el +++ b/lisp/ffap.el @@ -1623,6 +1623,7 @@ find-file-at-point ((or (not ffap-newfile-prompt) (file-exists-p filename) (y-or-n-p "File does not exist, create buffer? 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But maybe that's > enough of a code smell. Yeah, the ffap code is kinda gross. I think I've now fixed this in Emacs 29 by restoring the old code in ffap and adjusting the hooks in ido instead. Can you check whether this fixed the problem for you? 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But maybe that's > enough of a code smell. Yeah, the ffap code is kinda gross. No argument from this quarter. I think I've now fixed this in Emacs 29 by restoring the old code in ffap and adjusting the hooks in ido instead. Can you check whether this fixed the problem for you? Works like a charm. Another thorn in my side removed; thanks! -- Bob From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 06 16:14:36 2022 Received: (at 50279) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2022 20:14:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oVexw-0000Kt-4P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2022 16:14:36 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oVexs-0000KY-RF for 50279@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2022 16:14:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=09l6U09C4jVwLzPQIqsIRY9brJCfzI2xr/zmubJSiyg=; b=WYnZfEJbKpu2nsRnC7KfB8l77K PaTrF/JAnabgtNYe0YIG77QoA/CynFBLhGvdJng+ErgHd4quF1BJG4iITki0+qQh1eYCtpUwUMxbE ziehlhzF11F+yaVpRGrdrqQSLth2sTi5vlsf7/sYTVPCQtf12n6qklgav4Ff3iLQqkgg=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oVexj-00089J-Bw; Tue, 06 Sep 2022 22:14:25 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Bob Rogers Subject: Re: bug#50279: 28.0.50; ffap-file-finder customization no longer works In-Reply-To: <25367.32102.433951.101651@orion.rgrjr.com> (Bob Rogers's message of "Tue, 6 Sep 2022 10:03:34 -0700") References: <24877.4196.703337.360137@orion.rgrjr.com> <87r1ea5q7t.fsf@gnus.org> <24877.41211.907036.418118@orion.rgrjr.com> <87ilzmjn2a.fsf@gnus.org> <87y27f8j4j.fsf@gnus.org> <24916.36899.634409.375398@orion.rgrjr.com> <877dey7fy4.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0701575.fsf@gnus.org> <25347.54339.422978.567767@orion.rgrjr.com> <87v8qjth2k.fsf@gnus.org> <25366.47627.123588.827321@orion.rgrjr.com> <871qsox0is.fsf@gnus.org> <25367.32102.433951.101651@orion.rgrjr.com> X-Now-Playing: Shopping's _Why Choose_: "Why Wait" Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2022 22:14:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfl4p8f7.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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