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27.2; `C-h v' for option doesn't say it's an option

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Reported by: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>

Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 16:11:02 UTC

Severity: minor

Found in version 27.2

Done: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>

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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 27.2; `C-h v' for option doesn't say it's an option
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 16:10:27 +0000
1. emacs -Q

2. Evaluate this code:

(defvaralias 'new-foo 'old-foo)
(make-obsolete-variable 'old-foo 'new-foo "2021-08-21")

(defcustom new-foo 42 "..." :type 'integer :group 'convenience)

3. C-h v new-foo

Buffer *Help* shows only this:

  new-foo's value is 42

    This variable is an alias for 'old-foo'.

  Documentation:
  ...

It doesn't say that `new-foo' is a user option.  There's no link to
Customize for it.  That's the bug.
___

You may say that what should have been used is
`define-obsolete-variable-alias', instead of `defvaralias' and
`make-obsolete-variable':

  (define-obsolete-variable-alias 'old-foo 'new-foo "2021-08-21")
  (defcustom new-foo 42 "..." :type 'integer :group 'convenience)

And yes, if that's used then there's no such bug.

But my use case is to allow the result of byte compilation with older
Emacs versions to work also for newer versions.  (Perhaps there is
another way to ensure this - let me know.  In any case, this seems
like a bug to me - it seems like this should just work.)

In GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2021-03-26 built on CIRROCUMULUS
Repository revision: deef5efafb70f4b171265b896505b92b6eef24e6
Repository branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19042
System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19042.1083)




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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>, "50148 <at> debbugs.gnu.org"
 <50148 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: 27.2; `C-h v' for option doesn't say it's an option
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 16:53:57 +0000
It's worse than I thought.  `M-x customize-variable' and
`M-x set-variable' don't work either.  `custom-variable-p'
returns nil, in spite of the defcustom.

I'm maybe missing something big, but this seems wrong to
me, so far.





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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "50148 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <50148 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: 27.2; `C-h v' for option doesn't say it's an option
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 18:46:36 +0000
Sorry, but this was just pilot error.  I had reversed the order of the args to defvaralias.  Sorry for the noise.  Closing.





bug closed, send any further explanations to 50148 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> Request was from Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 21 Aug 2021 18:49:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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