From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:23:19 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#5009: complete-symbol should probably not be bound in global-map Reply-To: Lennart Borgman , 5009@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 5009 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125884935620680 (code B ref -1); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:30:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Nov 2009 00:22:36 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:23:19 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#5009: complete-symbol should probably not be bound in global-map Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 5009@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5009 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125885282226022 (code B ref -1); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:25:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Nov 2009 01:20:22 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAM1KLu8026019 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:20:22 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NC17k-0003CS-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:20:20 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NC17f-0003Bs-Sy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:20:20 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36119 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NC17f-0003Bp-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:20:15 -0500 Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:44944) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NC17f-0002ig-Bs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:20:15 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAM1K3v0002922 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:20:04 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nALN06R8005628; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:21:55 GMT Received: from abhmt009.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 515101951258852792; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:19:52 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.185.59) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:19:51 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Lennart Borgman'" , <5009@debbugs.gnu.org>, "'Emacs Bugs'" References: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:20:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3150D305D95E4195800485646C6C7CE5@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcprDWQAnNqcm19VSt6kMjqYjqNFZQABE8Cg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A0B0201.4B0891C2.00DF:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) > But it is. _Why_ shouldn't it? What's the bug? From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:23:19 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#5009: complete-symbol should probably not be bound in global-map Reply-To: Lennart Borgman , 5009@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:30:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5009 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125885651531313 (code B ref -1); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:30:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Nov 2009 02:21:55 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAM2Lr2p031306 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:21:54 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NC25J-0001Yb-0B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:21:53 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NC25F-0001Y9-0N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:21:52 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36817 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NC25E-0001Y6-RP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:21:48 -0500 Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.211.172]:49793) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NC25E-0000uk-Hh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:21:48 -0500 Received: by ywh2 with SMTP id 2so4601459ywh.27 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:21:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=LyJqK3HcOMtDG2VFaS4wGKy69h8UIz99E7RTPQ509us=; b=hH1CI5fonKWchdSljpD4MA8TYibPDbB/jwJPhY22kgd5Vqk1ubgnBJfxHh5f0mTvw7 37P6F045k1lGiYjNE+afEsb7y+BE9SBv4UD7Ub1VQdRo/rt/wV9LCxIeRxMDi5CCiPgv YjmIsk3yoWMtggaDXPFeXWuD/yd/BlwWuKOao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=if8KbFxhS+Y4FccaJXq/QBctUfzJwZnWPafPru9SPJJUaNhkcPKnBp3PPpMcVIGWki Lwbdiifk0Kw41QnaT9yCAi0Eqb9DeOBp/mkXwb/5jwyH5dJhk+VRgMHnChyo3m4HPdHs g2Bk2ghS+pRAwNcRmfam2I9l4Xg4pRQlmZyTI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.24.18 with SMTP id 18mr3289750anx.31.1258856507431; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:21:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3150D305D95E4195800485646C6C7CE5@us.oracle.com> References: <3150D305D95E4195800485646C6C7CE5@us.oracle.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:21:27 +0100 Message-ID: To: Drew Adams Cc: 5009@debbugs.gnu.org, Emacs Bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Drew Adams wrote: >> But it is. > > _Why_ shouldn't it? > > What's the bug? It fools people into believing there is a useful completion when there in fact is none. What use is for example symbol completion in css-mode, in php-mode etc? It is better to tell the truth. Bind it to there-is-no-completion-here (in a logic sense of course) in global map. Bind it to something useful in major modes. From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:23:19 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: Lennart Borgman Subject: bug#5009 closed by Chong Yidong (Re: bug#5009: complete-symbol should probably not be bound in global-map) Message-ID: References: <87ljhhjcyt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 5009 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 5009@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:05:08 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1260050708-6195-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1260050708-6195-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #5009: complete-symbol should probably not be bound in global-map It has been closed by Chong Yidong . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Chong Yidong by replying to this email. --=20 5009: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D5009 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1260050708-6195-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 5009-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Dec 2009 22:03:13 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from pantheon-po19.its.yale.edu (pantheon-po19.its.yale.edu [130.132.50.75]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nB5M3Bg4005638 for <5009-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:03:12 -0800 Received: from furry (dhcp128036204110.central.yale.edu [128.36.204.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po19.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nB5M367P011800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:03:06 -0500 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 45EC0C071; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:03:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 5009-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5009: complete-symbol should probably not be bound in global-map Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:03:06 -0500 Message-ID: <87ljhhjcyt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) > It fools people into believing there is a useful completion when there > in fact is none. What use is for example symbol completion in > css-mode, in php-mode etc? > > It is better to tell the truth. Bind it to there-is-no-completion-here > (in a logic sense of course) in global map. Bind it to something > useful in major modes. I've just checked in a change that makes complete-symbol call semantic-ia-complete-symbol if no tags table is loaded and Semantic is enabled. We don't have a Semantic parser for css-mode and php-mode yet, but hopefully we will in the future. I'm closing this bug. ------------=_1260050708-6195-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Nov 2009 00:22:36 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAM0MZBT020677 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:22:36 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NC0Dq-0005pO-St for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:22:34 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NC0Dl-0005og-FX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:22:33 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50135 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NC0Dl-0005od-Ap for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:22:29 -0500 Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.211.172]:59494) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NC0Dl-0003Ag-2y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:22:29 -0500 Received: by ywh2 with SMTP id 2so4547257ywh.27 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:22:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=jnuIZPq6YEC5ICfXhKU2gOCDd47ThO2/FY1Yk+znFIY=; b=xiYoR4k3o4/NPLPBW5WghCBi66KapKB228SHRVELC9+qCWWAfZirZMoYuT5NypDPCJ KWEpMV2piOiLh9Cg3a3hryBzUecn0Hu0INEjCKnA6QUxnAy6Sha2P0sA4umxh/96wv6e PO4cTG9p69D36JuXGZMdUNpFKxuBWmshEaGIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=jkpBjuROU4HcQdvhcRaE+nVDxQTupPBHAWrW+xwBZ7q/sm38JhbCYNMbTcp3L2rMqq wb3vR9WpDtoySQ58PMZlyKo+XukH3l2Ip8FQ5oWmO+743prBtmfLVnGFnKYqPHuhS6/A Cy3Up5GMTMGgZjau3Ie+nuz45Mb2KC432z4zE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.115.4 with SMTP id s4mr3252060anm.81.1258849348063; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:22:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lennart Borgman Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:22:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: complete-symbol should probably not be bound in global-map To: Emacs Bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) But it is. ------------=_1260050708-6195-1--