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envelope-from=gabriel376@hotmail.com; helo=NAM12-BN8-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) It seems that the new 'indent-tabs-mode' minor-mode, although defined as global, it's working as a buffer-local minor-mode. Using emacs from master branch built today: 1. emacs -Q 2. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (value is t) 3. eval '(indent-tabs-mode -1)' 4. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (local value is nil; global value is t) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 09 22:26:33 2021 Received: (at 49971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2021 02:26:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58127 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDHTN-0004Xy-6x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 22:26:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55662) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDHTI-0004Xk-M4 for 49971@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 22:26:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDHTC-0000H0-OV; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 22:26:22 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3450 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDHTC-0001Lq-Bh; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 22:26:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 05:26:31 +0300 Message-Id: <837dgughm0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Gabriel In-Reply-To: (message from Gabriel on Mon, 09 Aug 2021 18:15:46 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#49971: 28.0.50; indent-tabs-mode not working globally References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49971 Cc: 49971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Gabriel > Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2021 18:15:46 -0300 > > It seems that the new 'indent-tabs-mode' minor-mode, although defined as > global, it's working as a buffer-local minor-mode. Using emacs from > master branch built today: > > 1. emacs -Q > 2. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (value is t) > 3. eval '(indent-tabs-mode -1)' > 4. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (local value is nil; global value is t) Where did you see that it's "defined as global"? 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envelope-from=gabriel376@hotmail.com; helo=NAM10-BN7-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: -4 X-Spam_score: -0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gabriel >> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2021 18:15:46 -0300 >> >> It seems that the new 'indent-tabs-mode' minor-mode, although defined as >> global, it's working as a buffer-local minor-mode. Using emacs from >> master branch built today: >> >> 1. emacs -Q >> 2. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (value is t) >> 3. eval '(indent-tabs-mode -1)' >> 4. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (local value is nil; global value is t) > > Where did you see that it's "defined as global"? On simple.el: (define-minor-mode indent-tabs-mode "Toggle whether indentation can insert TAB characters." :global t :group 'indent :variable indent-tabs-mode) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 10 07:57:17 2021 Received: (at 49971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2021 11:57:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58595 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDQNg-0004Bq-RW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 07:57:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39892) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDQNf-0004Be-ND for 49971@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 07:57:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDQNa-0001Cs-4l; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 07:57:10 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2645 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDQNW-0001pr-3b; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 07:57:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:57:18 +0300 Message-Id: <8335rhh5r5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Gabriel In-Reply-To: (message from Gabriel on Mon, 09 Aug 2021 23:33:37 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#49971: 28.0.50; indent-tabs-mode not working globally References: <837dgughm0.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49971 Cc: 49971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Gabriel > Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2021 23:33:37 -0300 > > >> 1. emacs -Q > >> 2. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (value is t) > >> 3. eval '(indent-tabs-mode -1)' > >> 4. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (local value is nil; global value is t) > > > > Where did you see that it's "defined as global"? > > On simple.el: > > (define-minor-mode indent-tabs-mode > "Toggle whether indentation can insert TAB characters." > :global t :group 'indent :variable indent-tabs-mode) That's the mode, but in your recipe you are looking at the variable, not the mode. And the documentation of the variable clearly says: Automatically becomes buffer-local when set. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 10 08:08:26 2021 Received: (at 49971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2021 12:08:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDQYT-0004Um-Sa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 08:08:26 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:36795) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDQYQ-0004Ub-VE for 49971@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 08:08:24 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GkWts0Ww3z1qwyR; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:08:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GkWtr5qGpz1qqy8; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:08:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9lGIeH5RWXEj; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:08:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: JWco8XIK6tcjwfPxxV0XqmZsu38wq0/ZJjk5RYC7EA+hQctzVSSYRyDHthKCHK8S Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-191-35.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.191.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:08:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F9712C2595; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:08:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#49971: 28.0.50; indent-tabs-mode not working globally References: <837dgughm0.fsf@gnu.org> <8335rhh5r5.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: I had pancake makeup for brunch! Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:08:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8335rhh5r5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:57:18 +0300") Message-ID: <87k0kt8pu4.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49971 Cc: Gabriel , 49971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) On Aug 10 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Gabriel >> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2021 23:33:37 -0300 >> >> >> 1. emacs -Q >> >> 2. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (value is t) >> >> 3. eval '(indent-tabs-mode -1)' >> >> 4. C-h v 'indent-tabs-mode' (local value is nil; global value is t) >> > >> > Where did you see that it's "defined as global"? >> >> On simple.el: >> >> (define-minor-mode indent-tabs-mode >> "Toggle whether indentation can insert TAB characters." >> :global t :group 'indent :variable indent-tabs-mode) > > That's the mode, but in your recipe you are looking at the variable, > not the mode. And the documentation of the variable clearly says: > > Automatically becomes buffer-local when set. That's because it's explicitly made that way (bindings.el:799) despite the :global declaration (which is about the _variable_ not the mode). Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 10 09:30:42 2021 Received: (at 49971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2021 13:30:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58752 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDRq2-0006Xx-QQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:30:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59860) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDRpw-0006Xe-Vs for 49971@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:30:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDRpq-000621-Pg; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:30:26 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4674 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDRpo-0000lU-Pv; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:30:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 16:30:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83sfzhfmv9.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andreas Schwab , Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87k0kt8pu4.fsf@igel.home> (message from Andreas Schwab on Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:08:19 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#49971: 28.0.50; indent-tabs-mode not working globally References: <837dgughm0.fsf@gnu.org> <8335rhh5r5.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0kt8pu4.fsf@igel.home> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49971 Cc: gabriel376@hotmail.com, 49971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: Gabriel , 49971@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:08:19 +0200 > > On Aug 10 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> (define-minor-mode indent-tabs-mode > >> "Toggle whether indentation can insert TAB characters." > >> :global t :group 'indent :variable indent-tabs-mode) > > > > That's the mode, but in your recipe you are looking at the variable, > > not the mode. And the documentation of the variable clearly says: > > > > Automatically becomes buffer-local when set. > > That's because it's explicitly made that way (bindings.el:799) despite > the :global declaration (which is about the _variable_ not the mode). Apologies. But then I don't understand why we'd want this to be a global minor mode. Lars? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 10 09:40:41 2021 Received: (at 49971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2021 13:40:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58764 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDRzl-0006nd-5R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:40:41 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:47946) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDRzj-0006nP-Mm for 49971@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:40:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=e5qGvyfZ4+r6CZhiFZd2MKhrev7OFSAm3GhQ8I+FMtg=; b=fX1f5eIDUwwdcmWWkJUjCMfElR pEOGxrveuxe0q6LzTH63jnW+mWlG3NnvZQuRIF9LOMoJVpZYVzNLwQdwNNom4YerieLOmyzkeS1zE nw5JWwE8C43zyAZYxsQnk/pgoa9AdnL5T5uTY8cb07DNygs6Ikr0suM10jOwo63PPJVo=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mDRzY-0002dh-If; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 15:40:32 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#49971: 28.0.50; indent-tabs-mode not working globally References: <837dgughm0.fsf@gnu.org> <8335rhh5r5.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0kt8pu4.fsf@igel.home> <83sfzhfmv9.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 15:40:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83sfzhfmv9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 10 Aug 2021 16:30:34 +0300") Message-ID: <87pmulzad0.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> That's because it's explicitly made that way (bindings.el:799) despite >> the :global declaration (which is about the _variable_ not the mode). > > Apologies. But then I don't understand why we'd w [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49971 Cc: gabriel376@hotmail.com, Andreas Schwab , 49971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> That's because it's explicitly made that way (bindings.el:799) despite >> the :global declaration (which is about the _variable_ not the mode). > > Apologies. But then I don't understand why we'd want this to be a > global minor mode. Lars? Uhm... I think the :global t may be a mistake here -- I was just following the suggestion in bug#6276 without thinking much about it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 22 08:02:55 2022 Received: (at 49971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2022 12:02:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38211 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ68t-0007sF-4n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 08:02:55 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53498) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ68r-0007rw-Jp for 49971@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 08:02:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=v+YSFO+SD7r7YK57tualCob1+BOTaqUa3i+Vu/81S9w=; b=YqK8c63V5Ey/+qIuYOGkqWLX6E oW8JPNY10DnNpObVgbKQccoTPJUDYiPL070LX1B7boKHz7njcT0ncJVLnSAD5XuKRgwaDr7xKXSyq zWQjWmOLIrhpnO4crkX9gKkfI6WnYula+XeGaHUNz+1EJpCqgVeh0GpZsKNe+KcHIxaU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ68i-00059U-PZ; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 14:02:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#49971: 28.0.50; indent-tabs-mode not working globally In-Reply-To: <87pmulzad0.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 10 Aug 2021 15:40:27 +0200") References: <837dgughm0.fsf@gnu.org> <8335rhh5r5.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0kt8pu4.fsf@igel.home> <83sfzhfmv9.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmulzad0.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Anne Clark's _Hopeless Cases_: "Cane Hill" Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 14:02:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87sflo7afv.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Uhm... I think the :global t may be a mistake here -- I was just > following the suggestion in bug#6276 without thinking much about it. I've now fixed this in Emacs 29. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49971 Cc: gabriel376@hotmail.com, Andreas Schwab , 49971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Uhm... I think the :global t may be a mistake here -- I was just > following the suggestion in bug#6276 without thinking much about it. I've now fixed this in Emacs 29. 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Content preview: close 49971 29.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 49971 29.1 quit From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:33:53 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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