From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:51:15 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#49964 <49964@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#49964 <49964@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 28.0.50; ERC button to docu, again Reply-To: bug#49964 <49964@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 10:51:15 +0000 retitle 49964 28.0.50; ERC button to docu, again reassign 49964 emacs submitter 49964 Emanuel Berg severity 49964 wishlist tag 49964 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 09 13:16:52 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2021 17:16:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57674 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8tP-0001U8-Nf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 13:16:52 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:47264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8tL-0001Tz-VL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 13:16:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8tL-0007vV-On for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 13:16:47 -0400 Received: from sender11-pp-o91.zoho.eu ([31.186.226.249]:25259) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8tJ-0006pe-P0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 13:16:47 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1628529400; cv=none; d=zohomail.eu; s=zohoarc; b=LNx7kBmCjfMR5s8j9SzzTIu89vYz3cYFumtWGoD0DGZ101crPyDD5W+fE4xlWx240VcvU0WT6SjPdtIqlWndDNa0SUQcHdMp9zB0r5p8/giQsk9ULoab5UxiyIwA0FPnOUgbed84ToNzECoM4y6KSR3inzagf1LL9wU3ICV8XFk= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.eu; s=zohoarc; t=1628529400; h=Content-Type:Date:From:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To; bh=/5n+494WDXhN7MDC0uB0DaVwNzRPXCgoMFsRbNBWCew=; b=Bcf+nyzDJSP3MP4XsuIsrtCS2dZZEFaAv/wzsQ2JASUgMcIChcuFUGcF6vaDkyIsdJuQecpzbb4ZAdzmT3R2oe28Ck/udDOKB3MGT/v5jTXNW/Pild+9KBBWSJPehC4BLUVEtDVjokXVDy8UX0HKnO4gQ+/ZI0k3bh0LJNQhkuE= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.eu; dkim=pass header.i=zoho.eu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=moasenwood@zoho.eu; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1628529400; s=admin; d=zoho.eu; i=moasenwood@zoho.eu; h=From:To:Message-ID:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=/5n+494WDXhN7MDC0uB0DaVwNzRPXCgoMFsRbNBWCew=; b=gN9sGHJtzVoel/Grqg5rE0fNVOtzXamLS/vK/Lhu90qmeDnQqlZ4oni1et1AUSyr OsDpesZzkMCF3EqvzzO61R92O5Ld5Pqj9zV02nIvTvcarM8qTQ1XTa9FMYvBfgCDSzW KM26awC72x9+PbvtoBviOt1veMjvPT5Y6BMOkh68= Received: from ebih.zoho.eu (c-178e225c.021-67-7570702.bbcust.telenor.se [92.34.142.23]) by mx.zoho.eu with SMTPS id 1628529398643115.2890989713369; Mon, 9 Aug 2021 19:16:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Emanuel Berg To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-ID: <87fsviczd5.fsf@zoho.eu> Subject: 28.0.50; ERC button to docu, again Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2021 19:16:38 +0200 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 1 X-ZohoMailClient: External Received-SPF: pass client-ip=31.186.226.249; envelope-from=moasenwood@zoho.eu; helo=sender11-pp-o91.zoho.eu X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DC_PNG_UNO_LARGO=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wrote about this on gmane.emacs.help/gmane.emacs.erc.general so I'll just reuse that, I think it is clear what I mean :) Keep it up... 2. What is `this-convention' and =E2=80=98this=E2=80=98? I always used `this-one' - I don't know/remember why, probably I saw someone else do it - but it seems in the on-line (*) help =E2=80=98this=E2=80=98 is what happens, indeed even if you use `the-other-one' [see this example [1]] 3. In ERC, for example `sentence-end-double-space' gets turned into a button that opens up a help buffer, however with the other convention, i.e. =E2=80=98sentence-end-without-period=E2=80=99, nothing happens. maybe =E2=80=98this=E2=80=99 doesn't get highlighted/buttonized/hyperlinked because people use it for other things than to denote Emacs references? Emacs references? naah! Anyway here [2] is a screenshot [2] which is also attached to this post that shows what happens/how it looks. (*) On-line help means it isn't on paper :) [1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/wrap-search.el [2] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/figures/emacs/erc-docu-button-again.png --=-=-= Content-Type: image/png Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=erc-docu-button-again.png Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAoAAAAHgBAMAAADH/8HXAAAAGFBMVEUAAADStIxzc3MAuQAAmwD6 WvqWlpZkZP9tP8ZsAAAgAElEQVR4nO1dO5LkOLKEVXNXL2nUtjrBmPUFKOAAq4z+pNZbmuu/JIiI 8Ah8+cksZibcujpJEAiATnwYToB0bmDgqfDx8yv8H3a++lPlQr++vjbYeBGcSuASPgjsS5ULfQsC F8Lob8Gt2f38WP9CE/xY/0IMCgtNc43Lx+mXuQzc3axC/NfE7Zz5z62EhprDtWellsK+Pla6Q9IP pD9eAkOg+6K0L4qlxtHfsk8Ehtp0O/m19q1khe0WgREfq0338gTaGvgVmyvWntB0iawSgbEZM6gC vzqBtv5QDdTNT4gr18A1NRh+DwItDhMIXL0tgXFUvZGx/qrR+GMdWRfEfpFH4RBuCfz4+vlWBPbg lW9KHoJB4EEMAgcGBl4V+9SYAjh9ehvzIbdGfDjeCv3E47ltLp71fq6ARxGIPjS7keBP87HMtsS/ 4E36dxD4sZHAjysReEgPdOKJBFtBdGBtUKXn49zkgtP4E92/Zf8LSuaYNIkXtkFt+3YCD+mBFEam 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Emanuel Berg writes: > I just wrote about this on > gmane.emacs.help/gmane.emacs.erc.general so I'll just reuse > that, I think it is clear what I mean :) Keep it up... > > 2. What is `this-convention' and ‘this‘? I a [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49964 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Emanuel Berg writes: > I just wrote about this on > gmane.emacs.help/gmane.emacs.erc.general so I'll just reuse > that, I think it is clear what I mean :) Keep it up... > > 2. What is `this-convention' and =E2=80=98this=E2=80=98? I always used > `this-one' - I don't know/remember why, probably I saw > someone else do it - but it seems in the on-line (*) help > =E2=80=98this=E2=80=98 is what happens, indeed even if you use > `the-other-one' [see this example [1]] What do you mean by `this-convention'? I can't find that string in the Emacs tree. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 10 10:48:00 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2021 14:48:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60275 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDT2u-0004nw-A5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 10:48:00 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48570) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDT2s-0004nW-PC for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 10:47:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=fgGH607kOm0ITruGh/HcawL9BDCUTHBmLWF8FwkL6u0=; b=UBSi9bkvvvrbJmEJkZsSpjCw9t Y7HDfQCvmwpDbADuklOG8VW6gMZiOU6xo/0EgPhcPMis2+98Da/ZniUYZZ7bowOG9MKWAYPt5HmHS kmtueNGgvjicCV064CtPcvJow3vlpTv7s3GmRXFbFfj6yu2pPj/wusypBXMM4Ednp2Yk=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mDT2k-0003GY-P6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 16:47:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 16:47:47 +0200 Message-Id: <87sfzhxsoc.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #49964 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 49964 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 49964 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 11 13:18:50 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2021 17:18:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36437 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDrsQ-0007TB-E5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:18:50 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:36384) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDrsO-0007T4-Rr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:18:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52736) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDrsO-0006xc-KG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:18:48 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:44028) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDrsN-0000Yz-1N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:18:48 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mDrsJ-000Abz-9L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:18:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Emanuel Berg Subject: Re: bug#49964: 28.0.50; ERC button to docu, again Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:18:33 +0200 Message-ID: <871r6zc32u.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87fsviczd5.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tujxxsoi.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:oudts+koRqsssb9mC8YkP4XMCMM= Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> I just wrote about this on >> gmane.emacs.help/gmane.emacs.erc.general so I'll just reuse >> that, I think it is clear what I mean :) Keep it up... >> >> 2. What is `this-convention' and ‘this‘? I always used >> `this-one' - I don't know/remember why, probably I saw >> someone else do it - but it seems in the on-line (*) help >> ‘this‘ is what happens, indeed even if you use >> `the-other-one' [see this example [1]] > > What do you mean by `this-convention'? I can't find that > string in the Emacs tree. Do $ emacs -Q test.el and type `kill-emacs' and see what happens. It gets buttonized to the help if used in ERC, I think that's cool and helpful as well, for example in #emacs. In the Emacs help tho it gets buttonized/hyperlinked as well but converted to (respelled as) ‘kill-emacs‘, even if put as `kill-emacs' in a docstring. That notation, i.e. ‘kill-emacs‘, however does not get highlighted/buttonized/hyperlinked in ERC, I don't know if that is by intent. Again take a look at the screenshot to see what happens: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/figures/emacs/erc-docu-button-again.png -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 11 13:25:26 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2021 17:25:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36447 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDryn-0007eQ-T6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:25:26 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37970) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDrym-0007eI-5i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:25:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDryl-0008LY-V0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:25:23 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:50174) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDryk-0004xl-An for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:25:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=8NMCKrb4hBQLxIKLOz2Yq1AqqHkzu4FfRMkwDFkZflo=; b=BFbsmLGwnLNpIzqZPt9MubzQM3 r0zgVsMLQcOPZ431UnfwTQKdPwjOzb4TC13gNeuyPmJ4Q6u9zpDbfzZUstzuWynxHllSQ/JRfCRzN 5H6A3p/Ondsk1oTXm/XzM0RWyPwBVmy+kZDKHCdif9mUIwEv4OWgNukF6tb/ISV+Asyc=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mDryZ-0002PR-1s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:25:15 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#49964: 28.0.50; ERC button to docu, again References: <87fsviczd5.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tujxxsoi.fsf@gnus.org> <871r6zc32u.fsf@zoho.eu> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:25:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871r6zc32u.fsf@zoho.eu> (Emanuel Berg via's message of "Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:18:33 +0200") Message-ID: <87im0bq4g9.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Emanuel Berg via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: > Do > > $ emacs -Q test.el > > and type `kill-emacs' and see what happens. Oh, you mean the convention we use for quoting Lisp symbols? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Emanuel Berg via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: > Do > > $ emacs -Q test.el > > and type `kill-emacs' and see what happens. Oh, you mean the convention we use for quoting Lisp symbols? > It gets buttonized to the help if used in ERC, I think that's > cool and helpful as well, for example in #emacs. > > In the Emacs help tho it gets buttonized/hyperlinked as well > but converted to (respelled as) =E2=80=98kill-emacs=E2=80=98, even if put= as > `kill-emacs' in a docstring. > > That notation, i.e. =E2=80=98kill-emacs=E2=80=98, however does not get > highlighted/buttonized/hyperlinked in ERC, I don't know if > that is by intent. So the request is to have Lisp symbols with "pretty quotes" be buttonised in erc? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 11 13:44:39 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2021 17:44:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36470 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDsHP-00086o-NH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:44:39 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44516) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mDsHN-00086f-RE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:44:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57586) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDsHM-0005GW-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:44:37 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:46452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDsHL-0001S2-77 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:44:36 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mDsHH-000166-IA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:44:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Emanuel Berg Subject: Re: bug#49964: 28.0.50; ERC button to docu, again Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:44:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87wnoranbe.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87fsviczd5.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tujxxsoi.fsf@gnus.org> <871r6zc32u.fsf@zoho.eu> <87im0bq4g9.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UkfpRrFcCaGG7CYPp5D8kJbg4UU= Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > So the request is to have Lisp symbols with "pretty quotes" > be buttonised in erc? Well, request and request, I just saw it and thought I'd tell you about it. It seems in Elisp and ERC `kill-emacs' is the sanctioned way, in the help system and in info it is ‘kill-emacs’. If both are official then it makes sense ‘kill-emacs’ is buttonized to, the possible counter-argument I could think of is that people use it in normal language so one would have false hits. Personally tho I don't even know how to type it... The opening char is a LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK and the closing one RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 09 11:23:35 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2021 15:23:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOLtn-0001Ha-Oe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 11:23:35 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44440) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOLtm-0001HM-Ap for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 11:23:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=NoDbvgl7nk9W+7Qu6RY1ILUbmc3tOQZO7eEoE70j1rA=; b=ITfoEZNyH0gHYY54yF5HCF8oxP 8O/ZGaKoblQcQpC4B7ja5nE3au4P0HpnydAY1tguTftopFLZkQzeWJp8N5qZW89FqZKNBILpJ35oz WMUYqkCteglcG2kjQ4EBj+cv7pyOgPBK0PQA7sqeEMw+mVXvqOKKNPRvGTqtkI2nv30E=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mOLte-0000BR-RY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 17:23:28 +0200 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2021 17:23:26 +0200 Message-Id: <87pmthsrgx.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #49964 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 49964 - moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 49964 - moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 25 11:25:09 2021 Received: (at 49964) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2021 15:25:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34343 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mU9Y5-0003dU-Al for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:25:09 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f53.google.com ([209.85.216.53]:51813) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mU9Y2-0003ch-3t for 49964@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:25:07 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f53.google.com with SMTP id dw14so9080703pjb.1 for <49964@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 08:25:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1sPDK6NZdmN7UwyBbhadzv6jbFkbZANH33pdUxqyoh4=; b=f7K+VCR0LcFTH7zBCISuD2PhEG28hMFr29DyxImt/7OJBstxbCUFR5y3YG10ERRBgH uqlMp1waV4yvkpTtPW8XsqYK/AvnqnKO87oDhn9I2yvTbsnN+a79SSW3SrNyJLIVhjaL p0RkB+24aQVvKmpU+7rrlDG6/RCBhKhfUC7DPQesrlmnJl2tNRTR9KnyPq4RL16/Wf+2 LOkZhXeGlMnbydnuASqHpytGODzavqhS4dOd4sCiPBdbR9UKELGBm2SWH0mpolOdBn/p XboCYM9IxLHYZZHt4M76RKdyI0/jOULbfK1YuZjtfTGlfiyNJyAi/L8vrxCawJIWIWi3 RjkA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533GsaEhQWVCstD/AGX8GReiMSusOiV/HgfjVCHAymyqVAIjckI5 zHrDFRsDveg5hf8prxc8KkUQaWEX11JBTmMxR6M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxmhIhzOsHxQZFKLJnOXsif8CMf/ZI0p57C6l9l8Pb8Zl3QgWq5Yk7k6ExaMAYH+cJ3qdjobi8SUme66ps8J3A= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b691:b029:12d:2b6:d116 with SMTP id c17-20020a170902b691b029012d02b6d116mr14329438pls.71.1632583500260; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 08:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 08:24:59 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87wnoranbe.fsf@zoho.eu> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:44:21 +0200") References: <87fsviczd5.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tujxxsoi.fsf@gnus.org> <871r6zc32u.fsf@zoho.eu> <87im0bq4g9.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnoranbe.fsf@zoho.eu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 08:24:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#49964: 28.0.50; ERC button to docu, again To: Emanuel Berg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49964 Cc: 49964@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) tags 49964 fixed close 49964 28.1 thanks Emanuel Berg writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> So the request is to have Lisp symbols with "pretty quotes" >> be buttonised in erc? > > Well, request and request, I just saw it and thought I'd tell > you about it. > > It seems in Elisp and ERC `kill-emacs' is the sanctioned > way, in the help system and in info it is =E2=80=98kill-emacs=E2=80=99. > > If both are official then it makes sense =E2=80=98kill-emacs=E2=80=99 is > buttonized to, the possible counter-argument I could think of > is that people use it in normal language so one would have > false hits. Personally tho I don't even know how to type it... > > The opening char is a LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK and the > closing one RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK. I have now fixed this on (commit 2d97b1ef5b). This change will be a part of the upcoming Emacs 28.1. Please verify that this fix works for you, but for now I'm closing this bug report. If you see anything that is wrong, please reply to this email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we can reopen the bug report. You could also just report a new bug. Thanks again for the bug report! From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:51:15 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator