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Sat, 07 Aug 2021 10:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com X-Google-Original-From: dick To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; [PATCH] "Selected deleted buffer" in url-http-generic-filter Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2021 13:23:00 -0400 Message-ID: <87im0hf9u3.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.14 (Gnus v5.14pre) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::829; envelope-from=dick.r.chiang@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x829.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-Forestall-Selected-deleted-buffer-in-url-http-generi.patch >From bfd0544471f7214087b36d9f72acdcc6c1cadd4a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: dickmao Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 11:50:53 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Forestall "Selected deleted buffer" in url-http-generic-filter As 93e1248 is more circumspect about cleaning up process buffers, network streams *qua* processes, which get cleaned up on a timetable independent of conventional processes, may find the rug pulled out from under them. * lisp/url/url-http.el (url-http-generic-filter): Check that corresponding buffer is still live. --- lisp/url/url-http.el | 23 ++++++++++++----------- 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/url/url-http.el b/lisp/url/url-http.el index e3c178630a..ba13a17a8f 100644 --- a/lisp/url/url-http.el +++ b/lisp/url/url-http.el @@ -1494,17 +1494,18 @@ url-http-generic-filter ;; Sometimes we get a zero-length data chunk after the process has ;; been changed to 'free', which means it has no buffer associated ;; 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