From unknown Thu Aug 21 14:53:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#49622: 27.2; A new MacOS display heisenbug Resent-From: Devon Sean McCullough Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 17:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 49622 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 49622@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.162663091530705 (code B ref -1); Sun, 18 Jul 2021 17:56:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 17:55:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57062 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5B0U-0007z9-Lq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:55:15 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:48380) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m56Yx-000270-Bs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:10:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47152) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m56Yx-0002eL-71 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:10:31 -0400 Received: from gateway32.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.145.184]:41169) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m56Yu-0002X8-5e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:10:30 -0400 Received: from cm11.websitewelcome.com (cm11.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.5]) by gateway32.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73F315A66A for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 08:10:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from leaf.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.82.99]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 56YfmbqxhK61i56YfmsU0H; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 08:10:13 -0500 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 Received: from c-24-2-157-5.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.2.157.5]:60673 helo=Apples-MacBook-Air.local) by leaf.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1m56Yf-003l1n-J0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 08:10:13 -0500 From: Devon Sean McCullough Message-ID: <42554ae3-e862-6423-95df-00c7e335edd9@jovi.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:10:11 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leaf.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jovi.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 24.2.157.5 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1m56Yf-003l1n-J0 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: c-24-2-157-5.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (Apples-MacBook-Air.local) [24.2.157.5]:60673 X-Source-Auth: devon2011@jovi.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: am92aW5ldDtkZXZvbjtsZWFmLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.185.145.184; envelope-from=devon2020@jovi.net; helo=gateway32.websitewelcome.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 12:02:08 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Glyph out of place, vertically shifted downwards: Type ;; foo ⟡ bar where a box ^ displays in place of the WHITE CONCAVE-SIDED DIAMOND which can by typed by C-x 8 RET white concave-sided diamond RET but renders as a box instead. When I start Emacs, with or without init files, the box is rendered in the correct screen position. After editing for a while, the box renders on the line below. Peace --Devon P.S. Please find screen shots at http://jovi.net/Emacs-Bug/Render Any debugging suggestions? I'm mailing this bug report from a fresh "CLEAN" emacs, not the long-running bug-manifesting "DIRTY" emacs. 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tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads kqueue cocoa ns multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: CLEAN DIRTY ((conses 16 387725 13415) ((conses 16 3554848 246049) (symbols 48 35966 5) (symbols 48 61485 5) (strings 32 178224 2909) (strings 32 319897 31643) (string-bytes 1 4222874) (string-bytes 1 9301219) (vectors 16 33481) (vectors 16 99794) (vector-slots 8 828529 20224) (vector-slots 8 2295345 485158) (floats 8 185 59) (floats 8 11613 576) (intervals 56 260 0) (intervals 56 347213 7006) (buffers 1000 11)) (buffers 1000 210)) From unknown Thu Aug 21 14:53:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#49622: 27.2; A new MacOS display heisenbug Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49622 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Devon Sean McCullough Cc: 49622@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 49622-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49622.162663486725955 (code B ref 49622); Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 49622) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 19:01:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57293 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C2F-0006kK-8K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:01:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55296) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C2E-0006dG-1D for 49622@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:01:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49346) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C28-0006Dg-5u; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:01:00 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1301 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C24-0005s5-KK; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:00:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:00:48 +0300 Message-Id: <83k0ln78gv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <42554ae3-e862-6423-95df-00c7e335edd9@jovi.net> (message from Devon Sean McCullough on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:10:11 -0400) References: <42554ae3-e862-6423-95df-00c7e335edd9@jovi.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Devon Sean McCullough > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:10:11 -0400 > > Glyph out of place, vertically shifted downwards: > > Type ;; foo ⟡ bar > where a box ^ displays in place of the WHITE CONCAVE-SIDED DIAMOND > which can by typed by C-x 8 RET white concave-sided diamond RET > but renders as a box instead. > > When I start Emacs, with or without init files, > the box is rendered in the correct screen position. > > After editing for a while, the box renders on the line below. > > Peace > --Devon > > P.S. Please find screen shots at http://jovi.net/Emacs-Bug/Render > > Any debugging suggestions? Which font is used here? Is it the same font in the "good" and the "bad" display? And why do you say this is a "new" bug? new as compared to when? Thanks. From unknown Thu Aug 21 14:53:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#49622: 27.2; A new MacOS display heisenbug Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49622 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Devon Sean McCullough Cc: 49622@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 49622-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49622.162724052917497 (code B ref 49622); Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 49622) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2021 19:15:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49400 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7jaz-0004Y8-6p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 15:15:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46858) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7jax-0004Xw-5Q for 49622@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 15:15:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m7jar-0008Ep-Bk; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 15:15:21 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3724 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m7jaq-00071h-Sa; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 15:15:21 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 22:15:10 +0300 Message-Id: <835ywyw6gx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <8eb45979-d7f4-9f45-2215-29716bcf27d4@jovi.net> (message from Devon Sean McCullough on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:01:38 -0400) References: <42554ae3-e862-6423-95df-00c7e335edd9@jovi.net> <83k0ln78gv.fsf@gnu.org> <8eb45979-d7f4-9f45-2215-29716bcf27d4@jovi.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [Please use Reply All to keep the bug address on the CC list.] > From: Devon Sean McCullough > Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:01:38 -0400 > > On 2021-07-18 15:00, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Which font is used here? Is it the same font in the "good" and the > > "bad" display? > > Emacs 27 and 28 with -Q both report the same font for this character > and after many trials, both manifest the bug more often than not. My first suspicion is that this has something to do with your video driver. > Peace > --Devon > > P.S. In a "CLEAN" Emacs, C-u C-x = > > position: 153 of 177 (86%), column: 7 > character: ⟡ (displayed as ⟡) (codepoint 10209, #o23741, #x27e1) > charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > code point in charset: 0x27E1 > script: symbol > syntax: w which means: word > category: .:Base > to input: type "C-x 8 RET 27e1" or "C-x 8 RET WHITE CONCAVE-SIDED DIAMOND" > buffer code: #xE2 #x9F #xA1 > file code: #xE2 #x9F #xA1 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > mac-ct:-*-PCMyungjo-normal-normal-normal-*-12-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x26F9) > > Character code properties: customize what to show > name: WHITE CONCAVE-SIDED DIAMOND > general-category: Sm (Symbol, Math) > decomposition: (10209) ('⟡') > > There are text properties here: > face font-lock-comment-face > fontified t Since you see just a box, it means this font doesn't support that character. So I wonder why this font is used for that character. Did you try to install Symbola? > P.P.S. I added a new screen shot at http://jovi.net/Emacs-Bug/Render > > > And why do you say this is a "new" bug? new as compared to when? > New to me anyway — my searches turned up no similar bug reports. New to you because you never saw it before, or new because previous version(s) didn't have it? 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > And why do you say this is a "new" bug? new as compared to when? >> New to me anyway =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=94?= my searches turned up no similar bug reports. > > New to you because you never saw it before, or new becau [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > And why do you say this is a "new" bug? new as compared to when? >> New to me anyway =E2=80=94 my searches turned up no similar bug reports. > > New to you because you never saw it before, or new because previous > version(s) didn't have it? This was a year ago -- Devon, are you still seeing these glitches in recent Emacs versions? 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Not lately. I'm running 28.1. Peace --Devon From unknown Thu Aug 21 14:53:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#49622: 27.2; A new MacOS display heisenbug Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2022 12:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49622 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Devon Sean McCullough Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 49622@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 49622-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49622.165987641518223 (code B ref 49622); Sun, 07 Aug 2022 12:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 49622) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2022 12:46:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36145 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oKfgE-0004jr-U8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 08:46:55 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:56630) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oKfgD-0004jP-FT for 49622@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 08:46:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=g/2zpW+MglipByGJiL3VjFzXB3FR8/71eFdSuqRFO2o=; b=YsIEg0YyDzaeoJtDwnoZHjuFfw v9frj2ztBTA8sV82Jg7QPs5vYhbCbDsAGWqNIVwtOjfpyU0Ho3rq4IwTDThmQbCxZnW93XgWTDCEO gt21ZBh45NmCTf4bsRYfrSksAHwsLVKB65R6lFFNHjd0Lo/IY6OwWHhzRh3vIxexK1WY=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oKfg3-0006Vb-Vx; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 14:46:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <624f346b-03a8-bd44-d84d-44099d266911@jovi.net> (Devon Sean McCullough's message of "Sat, 6 Aug 2022 13:23:21 -0400") References: <42554ae3-e862-6423-95df-00c7e335edd9@jovi.net> <83k0ln78gv.fsf@gnu.org> <8eb45979-d7f4-9f45-2215-29716bcf27d4@jovi.net> <835ywyw6gx.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmhd4il0.fsf@gnus.org> <624f346b-03a8-bd44-d84d-44099d266911@jovi.net> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2022 14:46:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87wnbk2pcc.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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