From unknown Thu Aug 14 18:32:43 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#49593 <49593@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#49593 <49593@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Emacs overrides normal-erase-is-backspace Reply-To: bug#49593 <49593@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 01:32:43 +0000 retitle 49593 Emacs overrides normal-erase-is-backspace reassign 49593 emacs submitter 49593 "Paul W. Rankin" severity 49593 normal tag 49593 patch moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 16 03:25:58 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2021 07:25:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50415 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4IEP-0005zP-Q7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 03:25:58 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:32848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4HnQ-0005Le-36 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 02:58:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47906) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4HnP-0003yL-QX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 02:58:03 -0400 Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]:46618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4HnN-0003D3-Dn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 02:58:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=PZX/wp2sgiEcOeCnD++/8t1690EIRBPV+feXo4B10sH5ug/v6uSYX0jyDEA188QlQCBpp8BF+CRQquDo/kg47hXAv/rUbW0cigI9EIcVHIFcI5E1JrvUYdbjq4EYbLp2ggLKKJBwLKqxSjs8l4FS3X6Wqff7hO21uIoOXPL2jnYcrqC8dtLogk7GyuoH8biyjWndLsu3rCq4FfPQSoamhemBumTSIciiNUIceBydiNFlaAVndHGkmbKBHjsa9z6nhoUGkRjGyV9o73zerjdy+ZJLS+Rfk0hwZZ83AMDf57/3StkIhk2lKArpkC7/wFoYltyKTr2jjTOR3MaHbZbA2w==; s=purelymail3; d=bydasein.com; v=1; bh=hfFhFzhkJJp6rpLmQRzRlX/uKIz/I8yCbCizvGPJYNw=; h=Received:From:To; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=XwoaxxOGh/v/30Ma20lfAVmT9WRTUBBJB0U0tOc7iZHh7k2kTn0wqltGN/2SeypP68LDTEVYBTGe2bmHlbvbkVuoNLrpHfK+AAj5gapPLgmKL09zpkcaoulkah/mNwsqcL35qTzBSjoNqJYXNxILZdLc2Wie09K1zf1JDRHLSmYHPtj+HRNYxXAgysj8AZpXkvTQSgbatoYBhe5I6fg25CnAliJxfV21nNNHW4CxIDs3GWhAkMryWbc2kcoLM169awowCNiy23yliI4zKF/IfEM+TKrRmJU6tTCC25QqJJkxaWEmCW+wK7KKR26DgL16bM8dhqKDVPkOvPUOiM+oFg==; s=purelymail3; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=hfFhFzhkJJp6rpLmQRzRlX/uKIz/I8yCbCizvGPJYNw=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:From:To; Feedback-ID: 791:353:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: by ip-172-30-0-12.ec2.internal (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID 422389701 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 06:57:49 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 16:57:49 +1000 From: "Paul W. Rankin" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Emacs overrides normal-erase-is-backspace User-Agent: Purely Mail via Roundcube/1.4.10 Message-ID: X-Sender: pwr@bydasein.com Organization: By Dasein Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by Purelymail Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=pwr@bydasein.com; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 03:25:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Overview: Emacs overrides user's customization of normal-erase-is-backspace with=20 no clear way to set it. Steps to reproduce: 1. insert into start.el: (custom-set-variables=C2=A0'(normal-erase-is-backspace t)) 2. emacs -Q -l start.el 3. M-x customize-option RET normal-erase-is-backspace Expected behaviour: normal-erase-is-backspace is t. Actual behaviour: normal-erase-is-backspace is maybe; marked as "CHANGED outside of=20 Customize" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 16 06:04:58 2021 Received: (at 49593) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2021 10:04:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4KiI-0003dl-JV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 06:04:58 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4KiF-0003dL-I6 for 49593@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 06:04:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=IXyT72v579of3A0MYD2UrYIkC6AkclMOaH8EgsN5tu8=; b=eWr4axKWlcV2wIwm8I8ZJaLjd9 HlR82TY5h/R/JenXURf+TyH85pNDrTdK9oxoDWAUZaQWemHaFX1WVhLw3A4LrQNiQr6Q4WiCuDq4i qOEOUcOmWcIv+Fjirr1O5ymuA30XA9Iw0quNORoyN7k6NVzEI7oC327gc3nIWKvPz3cQ=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m4Ki3-0002wD-NR; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:04:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Paul W. Rankin" Subject: Re: bug#49593: Emacs overrides normal-erase-is-backspace References: X-Now-Playing: Squarepusher's _Be Up A Hello_: "Vortrack" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:04:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Paul W. Rankin's message of "Fri, 16 Jul 2021 16:57:49 +1000") Message-ID: <878s26d16t.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Paul W. Rankin" writes: > normal-erase-is-backspace is maybe; marked as "CHANGED outside of > Customize" The doc string does say: Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49593 Cc: 49593@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "Paul W. Rankin" writes: > normal-erase-is-backspace is maybe; marked as "CHANGED outside of > Customize" The doc string does say: Setting this variable with setq doesn't take effect. Programmatically, call `normal-erase-is-backspace-mode' (which see) instead. But setting it with `custom-set-variables' should work, I'd have thought? Hm... (custom-set-variables '(normal-erase-is-backspace t)) sets it to `maybe', so it's not a startup problem (there's been some with Customize)... Hm, looking at the code to `normal-erase-is-backspace-mode', I don't see how that's supposed to work at all. The value is only used in `normal-erase-is-backspace-setup-frame', and calling `normal-erase-is-backspace-mode' doesn't actually change the value of the variable, which explains why `custom-set-variables' does nothing. The following change seems to fix the issue: diff --git a/lisp/simple.el b/lisp/simple.el index 322693f631..01851e0a0a 100644 --- a/lisp/simple.el +++ b/lisp/simple.el @@ -9505,9 +9505,9 @@ normal-erase-is-backspace :set (lambda (symbol value) ;; The fboundp is because of a problem with :set when ;; dumping Emacs. It doesn't really matter. - (if (fboundp 'normal-erase-is-backspace-mode) - (normal-erase-is-backspace-mode (or value 0)) - (set-default symbol value)))) + (when (fboundp 'normal-erase-is-backspace-mode) + (normal-erase-is-backspace-mode (or value 0))) + (set-default symbol value))) (defun normal-erase-is-backspace-setup-frame (&optional frame) "Set up `normal-erase-is-backspace-mode' on FRAME, if necessary." But is that the correct fix? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 16 06:04:59 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2021 10:04:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4KiI-0003dn-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 06:04:58 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39238) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4KiH-0003dQ-BO for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 06:04:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=05XIEcn7ePThteByAxEj4fvv3NMQNcMHMQx0AnJkSBM=; b=S6bPCea5dYnV1anRwdyHguXb0p murMNKWkun6Z5jW9T2/N8XCiDT7fDFTX1kDq4sHfrb5dRKgZIuEU2KM2UDX9U/gZ4XzF+busG/hoE YYF8krO0v/rj7v0oEK0O0Am5JZ9BwebGlmH/ASb4V2SJhchUSsNUnGImFCMNb43gOt28=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m4Ki9-0002wI-PR for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:04:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:04:49 +0200 Message-Id: <877dhqd16m.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #49593 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 49593 + patch quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 49593 + patch quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 16 06:05:03 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2021 10:05:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50533 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4KiN-0003ek-1v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 06:05:03 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39250) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4KiJ-0003dT-Vz for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 06:05:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=fqX11Vk2F18lQWkJ4+0egZmkXV7zfoYVh/DtFLCMGro=; b=tZAHz9UCJnU3qrrOJmtdwYJp8M +q92zrS3ou4G9FnO5qjcSwVWHGPNS8m6hFsF8wngvgdYmo7eyJYjMBPx9Q8d3mPamsLFYmSSCTPr6 /7zbDV5LDAgoYcgX694V0RYjDjrBuqwxnV9bkN2VF4LH2SwB1+55VKortthVKbQulmbo=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m4KiC-0002wQ-FY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:04:54 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:04:52 +0200 Message-Id: <875yxad16j.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #49593 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 49593 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 49593 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 18 01:02:13 2021 Received: (at 49593) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 05:02:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4ywP-0004Kv-7S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 01:02:13 -0400 Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]:48912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4ywL-0004Ke-QZ for 49593@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 01:02:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=nSm7Dj5gNvWH4Onf6rK8hCp6oIizNcZ4NDoYxCMY1MpxIgDsgZE+tj+lZIIGtg9ImHQAGgB7ciVwRdT/PwMLpzbnwjS8Ky5LrpTpmsyml4SerTwOhBVHEaAc5kAN9Uz00MBI7YGargLskZmuqHygPWzWXsq3uZCC/wYG6pZKDBfM65YxgSiU5HgqxCDIVJjMKA1wvtpC68BGvqkfQn8MHPSRvQVJFQhFRBJGXWiM5HHNTtFro0nAhb+QMR6b5Ri51vtWhfTUIUiVqi3yo4EqqzHpKaj05kBiX+g+oPXWlu81MzOp8Ap1hcQ+gyNKSmfW2Zw6h9hWvlL1YI2LJ7w3WQ==; s=purelymail3; d=bydasein.com; v=1; bh=nVJG3VMl/HlXkBw6wLm4dsgd7r3uuOEY2hP+HHxzp5E=; h=Received:From:To; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=ZHpBCSEjEqejrxzbLGyrU1+B+QnC1Ckwcpv+DerpaYG1HuiuFrxd0YiFfYCBpZ47oRB9uubno2HfM2RiMK6PZ/yTyzBQ4+qwt4owPn8SW9+XahinZ+9L/snpDUGa5YepN2wfdp8IQA9LN4aG6S/v5HcBR+va+RC/eCmsOM/mXAwIELOpLHIptZjuOxrJFPQXPI+vPGLqSyEClDeLIoZISmubTEvuOmhP3e1Vkvb7bVxLlqoRnhnbFdie9NEAaWHhzU9UVN+B9tzeR0Qk6crAd0bd+XEMUo9G5kRHscoJiga+PFKerRcQEi0wz4Dv75jRbo36NHjTqWhWKZKVcQjGAw==; s=purelymail3; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=nVJG3VMl/HlXkBw6wLm4dsgd7r3uuOEY2hP+HHxzp5E=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:From:To; Feedback-ID: 791:353:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: 49593@debbugs.gnu.org Received: by ip-172-30-0-12.ec2.internal (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID -1660164130; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 05:01:39 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:01:39 +1000 From: "Paul W. Rankin" To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#49593: Emacs overrides normal-erase-is-backspace In-Reply-To: <878s26d16t.fsf@gnus.org> References: <878s26d16t.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Purely Mail via Roundcube/1.4.10 Message-ID: <726cbb9e1c7656d897b349ac6c0a245a@purelymail.com> X-Sender: pwr@bydasein.com Organization: By Dasein Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Lars, Thanks for looking into this. Yes after reading through the code of this my opinion is that it would be better scrapped and rewritten from scratch. (For me the patch did not fix the option persisting [...] Content analysis details: (1.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.7 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: bydasein.com] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49593 Cc: 49593@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Hi Lars, Thanks for looking into this. Yes after reading through the code of this my opinion is that it would be better scrapped and rewritten from scratch. (For me the patch did not fix the option persisting after restarting Emacs.) I've managed to resolve my problem via the console itself so I'd rather not touch it, but might be worthwhile keeping the issue open if anyone else requires the mode/variable. On 2021-07-16 20:04, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Hm, looking at the code to `normal-erase-is-backspace-mode', I don't > see > how that's supposed to work at all. The value is only used in > `normal-erase-is-backspace-setup-frame', and calling > `normal-erase-is-backspace-mode' doesn't actually change the value of > the variable, which explains why `custom-set-variables' does nothing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 18 08:08:50 2021 Received: (at 49593) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 12:08:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55336 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m55bG-0000J6-CF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 08:08:50 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33406) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m55bC-0000Iq-6U for 49593@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 08:08:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=TXrdvVsAjgaHgp6S40rULR/wn7mP7hyuQpxD4VGKGYI=; b=saLMDwYfLOdMnuKVm/PhjDCywQ +raOFKvRmqzK4Y8uGfOJpds1MzLuLemIzTYHOVuCIVUZeci2wtypk03uukUUvcf6iBhOcXECv/On/ XVEqCCT1LsOyvTTO9zwHRRTsIHleGI85FOsBVx8zC2L8KmrDOaPaG/iaSst+mqkU4+K4=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m55ay-0000M0-Uv; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 14:08:35 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Paul W. Rankin" Subject: Re: bug#49593: Emacs overrides normal-erase-is-backspace References: <878s26d16t.fsf@gnus.org> <726cbb9e1c7656d897b349ac6c0a245a@purelymail.com> X-Now-Playing: The Meters's _Gettin' Funkier All The Time (1): Here Comes The Meter Man & Looka-Ya Py Py_: "Here Comes the Meter Man" Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 14:08:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <726cbb9e1c7656d897b349ac6c0a245a@purelymail.com> (Paul W. Rankin's message of "Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:01:39 +1000") Message-ID: <87bl6zu8n3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Paul W. Rankin" writes: > Thanks for looking into this. Yes after reading through the code of > this my opinion is that it would be better scrapped and rewritten from > scratch. (For me the patch did not fix the option persi [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 2.5 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: bydasein.com] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49593 Cc: 49593@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain "Paul W. Rankin" writes: > Thanks for looking into this. Yes after reading through the code of > this my opinion is that it would be better scrapped and rewritten from > scratch. (For me the patch did not fix the option persisting after > restarting Emacs.) Hm, odd. I tried your recipe with the patch, and --=-=-= Content-Type: image/png Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAlYAAAA5CAIAAAB7+vLuAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBjSFJN AAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAA EGNhTnYAAAeAAAAEsAAAA/gAAAFOobH8eAAAJ85JREFUeNrtnXlcjdkfxz+3vW679ixp0eZWWiW3 Qgsp2cYWUrL7GTMYW4gsMzS2SiI0lhCGKUtFm4oWlTYtlkQo2vdS9/7+6Fa3RLfcMdHzft0/7nOe 85zz/X7Pec73OdvzkOh0OggICAgICAYeHIQJCAgICAgGJoQLJCAgICAYoHARJiAgIPiRqKqqCggI KCoqIkzBFmRkZObNmycsLPxDakci5gIJCAh+JHx8fJYvX07YgV1ERUXl5ub+qCYleoEEBAQ/FMXF xQCysrIIU7CF6OjoH1g7Yi6QgICAgGCAQrhAAgICAoIBykB1gZlQI4HE9Jt/g6gM3zEVfoxynHOV MMYXeeyqTCKpuT5mR1o35/ORSOZeJT+utXI87SjtUHclEfXnh+NfcYFrBzPao7WxbUFFGPvDeZrC w52cKPOPPS3MN6Hk+Ge0UEMmm7JwVeuUMp8QFHWxeC+eNxA34L9D/bMbe5wstIaIC/CRJYeNNJ2z 5VRi6QCzQWPYBn0KxXRXfNf1fi98p1IoWo4XWDGI7IT/ubm5ubn9ajX4P1Ij65A1hUKhUOaeft0R WHHNRYdCoVAMXfvfLB2tJPboMouRciJ8vEJSKlSH3XdefezP9eTf7QVeOIN+qv0I3MlGdjYeug2w hqEf0FiD/FSc3grDaXhNmIPtlEWtG6M9zfXso0YVizkL51lrCb68ue/nY/9CD8Zke0RMjOcM0X5p Bt4xVAMulCcmPO0cXpqQ8BxQN6UOYiEREQ2rGTNmzJhhQxH/L3Xh4uLKDAl903ZYfi80iYObuz9a vTryF+q4n0/EVSlaOyyYosORFrBt8pj5f/fj/Sn/7orQkkAEH8V0cv/TmwfD1QCgRJoNiY2aj+mq nUKosv23yLtANoS7OwBkBeJSBgDYboSRICABafbmNALnvSFNR9Ur+O5A2BuUheBsLraqfje2+h4o /3v1nIOPabrrwkL3T5BofcSllSdfjONnf15iI8aMHdFvLSFINdXhiH2UmPgeI6TaQxsTk9KBYVTq 0O+oUGWNjTliQkNfuTgPBVB+NyRR1NhE9v79F/1N0KzDqz1zWpRXhid7mwoDaMzYO85ga+CaXcts j43n6Ze2/Rd7gSQSUIMzn5ubacTNPTBThxAfyBIYPRMBXcbdboKPBBIJ5l7I+AtWIyHEB2EZGLkB sZAhgTQeXk6QImO4FWIysVQfZGGMckBOEwCgCaFHMd8CI4ZCiA98QlDUw/LDKKKxX1Ot2XB17fQz k2ZBC9aEbHmPk+tgoApxAZDFoaiNWatwn3n6pR5Bu2GuAWE+8ItAwxw7/0Y9y8Lz6zJknqHBCLFe C1dXuC6HJOsysIIQTCxgYYnpi/GnCyOsvLwXhdX8FkdWQW84BHkhKg9DOxy68xlNa+Gqzxh3tfFB EwtahLgw4ntlw2M25IVAloTVWuS2j9ayRcivK6yeyT+191IxVNb4/dHm/wBwiOk52Gp0ivcx/8YW W215IT4+cUXTFeeym5hPtry594eTubqMEB8vWULJePa2G886jVnfXCRIaudzc4H1z4P3OltoDRET 4CVLKmhbuey/+ZRJ07q86zsdqGrSQny8AhLKY+bsCHrexOb7UsyUqgFkJSbUdoTRHyc+aoQ01ZTh uj+kBHptXzHX1oJqoKtnbG7nuNE7vKA3A/Q5njYUip1nDlNQ9CY9CsXpYnlHSENBuM9GRzszIz1d farN/A3eka97NzymYm09PCcktAAAyu6FJAlbWBlwdorxxSwYQma+iTiyasYEIz09k4mO7sEvPvZO i55JuxTwhA6T1VtMGdvoeSlrf7Xlx5vLF6JbALRPRSd9qfp9Wxi9QJ8TJ4+f9PtCvJXLli5zWdyr pJXNUB+FO2dQ5AiZLueacWQS1kZ2uMOEa3AIQXYY3Md0TackEOYxKGs9KEZiJmABAIjFr5H4CHy4 i8ljUF0NAI8DsM4Ct5yAMrj/jDgmj5ufAt8URL1F+n58++eRbrQAC0LW4Zcx8Hze0YDmlyM/HSOW wFSC0S7vt8LG2I4UsqPhFo2Q3YjaCl62iN6jDL2CjupCXLnHcIpG6qzZAWjJwxRT3Clui/MWSW+R 9BSWkzCySxYt8JuNPckAMO4Arq1gzZJtnHVEUuugYQ3uHsGECmT5Q4QtQrJcWM9+11fZnIxh65Je euj3xrrvbgYn0zHipzmjOL9YpPfXT/B8p2Q3ZYFO7p3Lkccd7cU1c/botvrMsmAXk6n+BSKUaQvX qnIXRl++tHtaRLL/o9uOwxiXj1p26pzFR+Cxj/OfD7r3f0nu4yy3J9RK69nPWT1CrOVDdlTw1vUy Nra7RwJAQ9KeCRauCdCYOMN5igSt6NGtq7vsw1P9k4McO3XO+myHVuRNqQqHMh8lptDsqIzngbyk xHKIzqS21ZnU8+5+Scp6+oZW5pLkppKcuLvH18aluwf6TpVj163fmHli8RLPDCiZWEwbJ0Yrybof dnxNQs7uy572rA8WKVtbKZ0IDSlYsox8NzRZdMJyA86cXmbR8MhjcUDJEDNzO7WXMSGJgVvXiCgH rVFnYy+oOiEhBxhibCzfESZgbKyNa/EJCU9hqcZK9fuPXOCKpUsAfM4L9sH/AeAwwcJ32Hsf515g g0CnUy88sSESAESMsHsNeNOxbT+Ka7HHEfa50O9siqwY8Cvhf4ugIYbCNJyrazvxES7BMLmI+QGo rse+JNB/xZYYPHoEOAGAoDJWL4P9OKjK4WMh9i+GbwZyj+GOO+x52WnE9MvY/bjjkEcbv9l1jfM5 Lb4s5MdQnHgOAGO24PT/INaAZ5m45gvhNhM98cCWWAAwXI1dDhCuxMUd8ExA/HYc+gmb2DFK1aMM rJKM4aSOIyEFLPfCTBGW7ADgqBPDtYgbYb0zRojiWSSOxnWTT8hqrLgFAMY7EbQe/L3UIikDCz0w ngSPrchswJuz8HXFb8psEPIbFFZGRgbAoaWl+eVorx9UuiamuuuSAXywsB++MOhCQOIe3dEA6En7 f/Yv4NB3j3vgqs4NgL5hwhQN55u/bg+e/ZcdX6trMZ493xiAaIhLty6Q9sh9wY6Eas21EbGHzETb 2r2se49bJ9RoqXsWbE8QnX8l/q8Zsq32P7B2i5HRvvU77849ZcnG51Nlqqmsz9nEhGxQWy1SnJDw CvyTqe1tjM6KS/f+0JRon1drnHNwxrwzPhfSpm7QZosItOyTm70zhGz/vLDHUrI113ULjsyb6/en z0ObXcYsT+iNmGil4BsS+vInoZAkMYsl+px5vc2i6HHNsktXVqvzAygfvcZ6S+StW5lr1LXYZ+78 ly8BDB7caemQ7ODBnMDLly8BtZ6r33/mAr/gBVcsXdIH/9eK0yLs3Ywz/tiwslP4udP4CIAf3rfh IA7Mw9BSTPQD/RlOR0F/fOdUFHAzBePbXlC3pQ5IYfw3nwSrIiAAGAIrfXw0AmJQ8h50gCSJf3LA 2/osTEeLJH5bCN8NQC0e5cBem51GTD2PVKZDsmM3LrAbLQD0JGRLPWM9EZ8IZKQhQoKUAsbYdqTq 74cWAPoI9ETrM7qxLEK1kUfDlWvYtJkN2vUoQ18gY5QhdIaD4RN7LKwnOPkAADhGIiIW2q3VdhZW veuacM4RzIpFM6D7G+5sh2DvtdDdjr/WAcDoeqi5AnSEhOE3ZTYIyXphcQlKSEtLQ1K4l0seaKWl FYCQuHgPboTTas0GXcYUveTUqSYICsvNbcBoPuDxjev54J26drU6I2+S/IJ1czff9L3+d7S/nTWJ FTFiTp3KpYvN3bur3f8BENC0YIzwRPudzKVpuf1ixl1W0jaIOtTeTmPfnrt3H8PS8Ovt0M5I6ljx s1cSEwqhORhAfXxiJrjHmo5ut4+USqtvpDXWVNU2NtPosiNHCuJWZmYZtNmyAubR31df0kasXKjP VVneNqgoM85cye/Ew4c5MKawnJCytbWiT+j544IpIhbLDTiQ19ssOMY4LFJnzAiLjR8/CpEPXuY3 Qot93YHq6moAZHKnxR8cZDIfUFtVRWufd/tC9fsvXWC3XnDF0iXLl7j0OXVlR1BdEfMX4plfL9eI lNZXF42FXVsts5oKfj/UAykpQGcXqDynw3MAEGjvUHKChxN8rWbjAQ/AwQsAtHo0AnwcSD0Jj7N4 mIniSrQwJVj6XywP716LnoTkM8EYXsQ2ImIj5Dwx3hpWtphlA+nWW7gCKfmtNwEUPmmbnj1jj+Q9 yMA6I3DRFzI0lBXg0h+4Eoj7t1H3BC5DerZDXTKyAQBGTm2uBQAg+MlIUlrbMKP1LIj0SYtJkxh/ VK0xzBUFwPPnLBVWD0L2prAUVocUre5ziZFIPTkqWVXVjsooJCHBA9TU1AJ8oOXmPgVGaGuLMjUS 2tqaQEROzltYy7OQ/+uUlPfABFNToW5PFyYnFwPFbnqSbl1P8RQXs9EOAEh6VBOBK7eSEqucBwuD lpyU3MyhSx3TMShFL0+75Ol1+V7Ki/Impt0TtTU1ADtcYPGTJ6VA6bFZpse6nuLuZUOkZG2l5Ot7 iSQ2c7UBBz70OgvJ4QrtT4Qgi4pyA3V19QBbR8S+UClZqX7/AV1XhK5YuoSXl/eIlze+2v8BgCyc rBFzG2fCmQKrUUkHAG4JtBuCJIFBQCFQWdk1DRmZXmbajGYgZgMm/Nn9lowmds+9OgbDv6deUbda 9CzkMJy9iPnL8eA96gpx8xRunsImdZwLwfShQCUqP59jXR2b1PuyDKwjhNHmUAAATB2JR4bIr8Hv 3nD5vWc7VLXpKcfCDA0nJ1pacHAVnB5ChdRrLQa1L5YXhzhQANTWslRYPQj5LQqLQ1xcBKgqLW3C F+e7Oz+ok0gkgPG+/LqaGjogLt6p+RcbNIij7RmfBSorKwFeGRnR7k9XVFQAvJZ7b/5m8In8smwd ngHAPZpqxBOckJDUPH0CV1ZiYg0optR2wZqzfV2cvZ+RNeycNxuqyIoLcAEvAjcdiGxpaWFP/tXV VQCP8c/ezl1nrEGS6OVaaBVra8XjxyotrfU4+pIFPz//J4UOtn4kQUhICCiqra0F0+Mnrba2ASAL CXGwUP3+A7rZFOHsuLCxsRHA1/o/AMAsZ6y5jUtnoMzUFIqQADo+lqAKDC9IL0Hr84qISDctWq9p hKc3PgLggtNJuNpisDgKPaC08ZN7rq1caP/CStEetGBNyOHTEGeH7GiERiD0BsKeoC4bizdhYgAE hND6nE2ywrNTXds8kgDbhP+SDH1rqtUxAsgH8nPQyIIdhNtqxdu3PaSsMB9XzWHmgtoE/O8UQlx6 rcWHD8AQAEAJWofpBARYKqwehPwmhaWlpQXcT0/PwuxRfUpAQFCQBJSVlQEdjry8tJTGaOBYQURE BGgsKqoARD97miapb2Eh+u+3cPwmpnockUmJmZgwKCnxHZRndOxYoj0MOJvXNMzJ/+yvlLa+UEvd 3zXoWAzdI5824B/r6joelAQFhYAmmpjm6NFCX62L8op/MlZ8EsqOLHrQgkUUFBSAp4WFhcyVp+jN mxbGqX5J90saVixd0joo+vWQ7fCTBKqimGbLeKHbOv4eh5sVjLB7QYyl4bq67Mi1HG9bFzZrYssi KEqAhwOpqd2JJ8iYjnr37pvbnhUhaaAB4IL6BKzdgzuZ+GM0AFQkIg+AOHSGAAA9DdnCGDy44yfD iYpmNsn5ZRn6BD0fL1vTbgadBTsI6DKm0hP8kcGkV/171HRO2cgeek5YrwUAoZtwrazXWtwKZjwa Z95i7NxXVmapsHoQ8psUluxkW10S8q5eTu1jL4ZDVVUFeJmWxtRlbU5PfwIIqaqyuEhyiJ6eFJAS HV39hdNJYWHl+BYIU6na+JCYkF+TkJANearp8PZTte/eVYNLYxSlYyywJSMtsxvTkckCQH1DN7sl +Pn5gYryio6QVwUFHa5ERkNDHMh68KDqX1OQHVn0oAWrpjY0VAVeP3z4hqn2x8enAeJGRiron/z7 61B54OzQtcc93wlcAOqwahK8A+C3GQtPAgBJCc5m7MhUGkqtw95PcSUVtGZkXcbW7nYo8mpAEQAQ 4wn/KDzJQU4OSns5Uvo4AG5unX4RRWwS8iEMjOF+Fo/zUV6BFwl42Noqk9E6lODoBBKAYiwwx+9/ ITQCtwOxaxlUVXCGtX2zdY8YMge27cu87QE3N7h54T1rMrBKNeLu4d5dXPsLixYgFwCgqgM+Vuyg icVGAEDLwLix2HscF07DbSUokxiutEul3nAAsgBK8ctm1PZSi/S9+GkXju3CjN8BACRYW7FWWD0J yXph5R+1kJCQkNDdkdbbmq+4eNNPksg74rIpoqR9YINWkRpw6wlrCehMnaqAxpuH/0xjjM0255/+ I6AIolOmmpFYFGKs82JVUnng1u33mdrUhtzohNbbwsx5sTKp6uq2zeElHa0CvTrn78OBXYTsux2Y 7zNTqgqeJcWFJKXSJEypah1nhOTkhdCcmZrR1t9pLjh/OLC7h2HBIUNE0ZiRlveJW5BVUOBFZVxE SmPrcWXUmWvMhWkwbfpQUs1dz8MJ5UzK1ubfOxf6nE1NLBuy6EkLFtGZPVedhDivvfcZ7rgp68if QXWQn+1gxon+ybf4XuBYZ6gcAfNripTW4MBN/BKJinisjm8LJWPrWeizxVIkrFqNC7+jpQ5bdLGN Ey0tGDQI+HT+WQcLtbAjHS25cBrHCHPPhqtaL3JLu4gut+jWqRgvww4h6XgTj+3x2P6pSQEA2pux Jxxb4lCeis2L+mKqukfYubNTyJ0/cQeAKmauhhQLMrBKHuZbdg6RgttKVgvr59MIMUN4CUoTsDWh LfQzsylkK+y0wtIwvPaDuwt+N+iFFqN1cW0HrrUdyjtiuTIANgjJemG11FWUlpZCsLb37xcU/+nY xTXZdkc9LFWCza1MlIWbijJjIuJLZtyZN1mDlVvHYOORRZem+bub6SVNt1bnfh19/UZKlbiVn7t9 61QSPT/qr+iXrRX/RQtQlHDJX1AQACQMZtpqCgLg0N92zi3CcsfhCWox9tPGq4rTSnNjg4MrnJJz jGQATv1t53ZGWG/3tVaPt5tuqTGIXvIs6V5IzAuepZFrZ2mwxw5MDKNShx69cO4kuV7QlDqK2Y8b zZqjeOOk/7I5hbZURf7q7KjbCbz6BuKxn75MzvCnWQpXT5z6n0vpRF1JXhKf5hRns8EAwG082Uos NPjSqjnvJhpI1mTHxnEM0+IuSm+7kENz+b5Vicu8riy1TzefYKwkSi9/lRkfl1LIPfP0AmsldrR2 bMiiJy1YhfLL0ZUBk7yPWY9Mm2Klzv06Jigst0lu1pHt/fTVMPhGX4rQglOX4U0urL2NIHdQR4DM AwFxGE7Hhfhu9sX3GUN3hB0AVR2ifCDLYeY23NzafcwtQdg8FYOF/4OvZvQspCp2bcVUKhTlIMAN HjKUDLH2JIJ/bovAh83hCPHAZH1IkMHFC+lh0LfCFm8sHckmKXuUoZdwC0BeDVNX4e4jzJFjtbC4 NXA7BR7LoDMU/DwQlsEoa+z/E5+7w509MJIDoOHgSuTQeqGFw184NAcyAhCQwqRfEXmcMbXPBiG/ QWEBGDThyMPHV3fOH8WVG3bR/8Kt5HL5SZuOrjJk9XrxKScfhOxz1KanBPp4nYsqV5y++erDG4vb NnW2JHg5MTj8sBnIPf8/xqHbnfb3xPAbbI9M/mf3As3G+IueHof87+QJWu884NhWWPyjt0UmB+1d oENLCvQ+cOhkcErl8CkbPP1/1vtX7jM1M6pU49u3ZbzGVMNOD/3cmqtOHF9jPbzh0Y1zZ68n1Gmt PHViuWp3/QIO9WWH98zW4cj558xxHx+fM9GFbWcExm3x2jBJQ+Dtg+CbD4qGLPDxXDCkU3eZV2vZ 6cueP9up0jJDL545dy06u0be3GnL7vkabFPw67PoUQsWEbY4GhN+yGWM4PPb585eT27Wmrvr1sNz M2TQbyH9dytxCAj6ESEumHQKADzfYXU/vmMJesTNzW3Hjh3EV+PZxdWrV1ut+kNqR3wyl4CAgIBg gEK4QAICAgKCAQrhAgkICAgIBihchAkICABM9APdjzADAcHAgnCBBAQEPxTS0tJRUVHR0dGEKdiF jMwPu0KMGAglICD4oXBwcMjNzSXswC5kZWXnzZv3o2r3LTZFVFVVBQQEFBUVfQ8G+VpkZGTmzZsn LCxM3DkEBAQE/Zxv4QJ9fHyWL18+QAwaFRWVm5s7cPQlICAg+H75FnOBxcXFAAbITlViBoKAgIDg e4GYCyQgICAgGKAQLpCAgICAYIBCuECC75BG/4lLSCSfS4QlCAgIvob+5wLrX4R6bXScMm603iiD sRa2c1Zs87yY+K7zVyxb7qyhUCir/mnscy5fn8K3oTE78IaD6TZZ4RU85LVDVPdMcr7hHVnW5fuq 9OiL8qQlJNLK6YFMXzqsT54jsIQkdf5e1/VO79w1l5A49h8tBvDGTW0JidTNb6J/I4CK4wcZIVwr RaQ2aVuc3HDi2duP/dxo/x60S1OXkEie/g1Ey0FA8EPQz7bGN2Z6OTr5ZjeSh+kZWw8T5aguzEm9 cyL2g5yt4QyhAVc4H5O27zd3f1UvJGVqaaAyiFSZ/zr24q2Qt4McxlFFmeIlB6e9FVPQF38ZFvyk cZYO4xPY/Bo25pyX72RHZMBCiyl2cU7EE0CPYiPdHiRmMl9dufOHGilMx+JGRnNHcVe9L0m5n+wR nuh3dsrN23YmxLYPAgKC753+5QKLrh44md00bLbP+S0moowOKq0yLyypiXsAls3r++v2vmoYYX7n wTzrQW0faysrvBrV3Pnzk4VBwaU846fvkrpsczktokVnEsN58U+yUeK4kxcZWQEt0fbYDZE58YCK DUW5I4UhLiedFvF9VhBZW1svVxkAaPhwdeWRuWeCZq9XzD6hOfAeSggICH4s+tVAKD09NY0G5akL 2v0fAA6RERMtRra2z8X+DhQKhULR+S0SwH1XfQoD873t33n+kBLotX3FXFsLqoGunrG5neNG7/CC 9oErVlIA0FAQ7rPR0c7MSE9Xn2ozf4N35OtvPvpHj3/2sAUjF1m2+z8AnOKDZ09XEGCOl5sWnEca Y6luYakuWJYeHNcx7ik5maIHPIrIrmZK9UFEXgPEbGwG90UmPsmZxxwWS+ONf2jAB1YvehcbvX3x EUPV3yTIK/hE1qmZntxx/X1dx/nXrspLSGo3kvJTt9julBdawSe+2XTFw+wm5jTqU4+fn6D2K5lv lTTl6Kag0t6XBr3ofsRK611KMv/j418jM3znhAXXAnNpzDHq8lJ3OvyhJr2aj3elhPLvc3akPW+T odBjL4m0hERaNvcfAOlO/G0jxjIBUUQjQkDw/dKveoEkAQF+oOJDSTOGdSuYiOnKfRLlAC393NaL T9RmujvqtcbjVVBsi5N63t0vSVlP39DKXJLcVJITd/f42rh090DfqXIsptCYeWLxEs8MKJlYTBsn RivJuh92fE1Czu7LnvayfdDq2e/6KpuTMWxd0ksP/d5YQ5CPDJS+q/gIqS90gl8HpT3GkL1WQtzi GmacCcFB+cdM21QZTrFRvZZ0PzeGZmzDeKgojIyswSCqjWFfC4lPbepEft+/8sKimpf9xFL1iTt8 fl+UHNVM7Sc7EaHGyschKbumZ8Wf3hbqNKgjUl3e+gkR75S0piwYknsnKfL4GXtx+Zw9QzkAgJ57 8KjZumfNSpoOa4YKvs39a5aXgHTvpG5OvWljGZQuqjBz9vgFYrQP+YVxt8POWk+ZpcqwS0PSrQkW NxIgN3HG2CkS9KJH6Vd3eYWnOiUHjRkKiE+2PydTDdDjD5/2Th6y9LQVtbVI+GXUiUaEgOD7pX8N hGqPMxe7fjNw4wreFYumjDdQFus84gc+RRNbRQAtnGFbLz6R0plka8vbNQ2dFZfu/aEp0e40Gucc nDHvjM+FtKkbtFlJgZZ9crN3hpDtnxf2WEq2to/rFhyZN9fvT5+HNruMv+GIrLG2nUTs+eN+Nnx2 6x11zDWFeLuJVBUc/BJK1pbDAWhYGuBWcFqqh+Ioxll5GxvxnYdyIlJg0+p9C3MinoHsQDHr1P1/ dcLZ716nEJkF3rbWIt2KRVJVlQRePXnyHpBjSY8dW18HKMi0l2XDuN+09h7YGf7QaZZxe6TXzytd t6a6DyUD+KBuP/x00IWExD1DRwOoTt62/Vm13JjgZCdbEQD0X0YfVPvfh17ZMv3ig9QmyXW3Nnvo t+lZX1ZQ1Vb9aa/2LPgnQXT0lXjnGbKtfe6Za7fsNdp3Zeddw1OWXALqmvPVAdC4rp72ThYznjt6 Ph/ReBAQfP/0rxWhQuM2eqwwFi+LP+O2fJrp6LG2C9cduJjwtqk3aUiptPo/WmNNRVlpSUm17MiR gnibmVnG2vWP/r76kjZi2kJ9rspyBnUy48yVUP7wYU5flOISlJCWlpaWFO6t9xTVORxoZylVfe/A 2YkjfxUetHXsrECviNJOi1hL04Ie0AdZaugCgKilpSzy0oLzOs4b2FCkUBoRwXAYteE5SeAab6PR 2ZtWPLyYcOEC8y8ru/6zcomICACoqKhjUQ95Sqv/ozVU1bwvriyqEDc05EfBy6T3TJE4NdZsGEpu /S85aqoJUFCU2wAALfce36zF8IXjbRkumTTUefw0wd7ZsqqqAeDg4uoYUga/+DDptsPomJO5dC1n SzPu2pKSmpKSmpKSxqH22hqouXv3NdFKEBD8sPS3jyWJGq48ETI7Oy4yNiE5OSn+UdjZ1LDAQOdj 534xYLHRo5enXfL0unwv5UV5E9N2gNqaGkC858uLnzwpBUqPzTI91vUUd2lpX1RSWB1StLpv1hg0 bkrYC/PU0LQ74Xn3o7Kjr9yNuxLt+9uauD9UW9dj1txOi2rhtrdSaX2U0bBQl3OPCAoq3b6eMcZI MqVYC0ZfiMwt/01SDLSYyKcfOVRsrLv0J7XO1P9vEcvdGhIJAFh/tyy95Pkx13+OXXuaXdLMdFFD VRUg1XYkK6PascSUT0KCC2isqQX48CrnXT0wkiLfcamAPEUJSOuFJfXtdeR8Y/+ctK9gvp4VVdHI eLiGZEfdL0wuKAaK3dwl3bpeyFNcRbQSBAQ/LP3xe4Hcg9TNZ6qbz1wCet3zO3vWbA464+Y36dZa NRaubc72dXH2fkbWsHPebKgiKy7ABbwI3HQgsqWlhaXMq6urAB7jn72dR3Y9RZJQ/Q+swSM8yo46 yo66BfSaJ4mr7E+dPXB239w9+3QAfAwLzm4E/7s719fHAQA+vucDUoLT3q4fzxij5FGzmcB1Ljwn 6uPYadwFEZH1MKLYDPoqiSor6wGIiQmwFPvjK/cJHjsy+fQWTPIcLz9UkpebhGwfv1+DWpqZtzeS ecnMpiYBYLzBvba2CeARE2OuqmRx8d7JLDhpXszfYtsOxt86dPWSB8DBp2w38fSpydRBAFBRUQ9w We5d85tB1ws5ZAeDgIDgR6V/fzKXJKBks9UlOHh7bEpqCdQkeryA9jDgbF7TMCf/s79S2no6LXV/ 1wCSLGYpKCgENNHENEeP7m9r/kmCGkbem+PPLc6Mia2EjgiasoNCm4CmmJNhMcwR4x4Hl41fxnAS vNY2Izj/yYlMwjTp3MhX0FxCGfpVYtBzct4DnOrqUqzEpt2NOJTerLJhTez+4W39TFqNXz0gwnKJ 8AJN5eXNTLW1tqyst2JzK06bcmHaFFptRXpMesCB4IP/3JghMazAbyQ/ICLCDzTTJIdZWAiAgIBg 4ND/X5DGycVNAmpqapnCSJycAFqaP+nY1b57Vw0ujVGUjpG+loy0zE87gJ9NQUZDQxzIevCgf45/ cXJzcjBmtkCLTrtdhZG73en0k+2/Uh91jpa84NsdU3liNpTRqIyIKKqMyEmFhI3N133/uSHnRkg9 uEdYmbP0+FT1qqwCnHomwzvGWZvzHyTRWM9wqIYcGcjKfNsRVPcm43lfKzxZVGei6f4Qp8WD8CH2 WeuHVYfoDZMCksKelPdwdVu1aSZaDgKCH4L+5QLzb3qdjS2oY57Cyzh14QENwpqazONRHGJiokDB y5dd56OE5OSF0JyZmtG2b6y54PzhwHfd6P25FGAwbfpQUs1dz8MJ5R3n6LX5986F9q3ZzT9qISEh IaG7I62XF+bEbzuY+bSGScLq/D+OPmmBgL6+JEB/GJT+ASLm5p1cmvg4VS20hAdldSxWGaxlQ0FW ZFZg5LMWGYrNqK8ooPoPV1ZcOFUMuUXWDix1AiGqMEgULUlx+W1rmlryjvzt+6o3VXS8jp0gXpwN u17CKIzXpyOu1/RKbtqzB3kvmZfvlHzIrwbEyWKth2Ymi5VJVVdvbA5nMje9Iefve4FPmNMhSUoK Au9zcz8/EZofbiHxi4SEe6+Lm4CA4NvTvwZC657ePnD6hLeMhq62sowQqgqzEhKfVdJETDYtNe70 /i7KWBPhK7cublxLn2o4RIibxKdsPkVXCoDRrDmKN076L5tTaEtV5K/OjrqdwKtvIB6b1DWrz6bA obl836rEZV5Xltqnm08wVhKll7/KjI9LKeSeeXqBtVLvlWqpqygtLYVgbW+3c9e8ubguZM8Ocb2x iiOH8NPLSx5F5GSV0cWt52615ABeBt+sgICBeZcdfqpq4+TwODTt7kd9e8YaVCkbG6mtR+7uEW4U nkwxIX2a02u/JWeiOr8gTXyS7cHZjNHjt0FBywu4qz+UpMQ8yymjiZpMCfRg+dUw481Wqj/Y63HY 4MVoG3WeitS0gHBuU3OhkCiW7SA4atfuEbfXJsw1KP9piqJkad7Fq9VyQ/G8F360JX7vAcc4GTNL pZFKouTaD/evpjz4KDTjF6Nhrec5FbadmxJh/Y+v9bZ4O11LDUF6yfuke5kxL7iWRlrM0uhIyHCi pphvgreDD32RqpIoF0lAfspC5U5bQ1qaKkprSsFbO3DfpEpA8P3Qv1yg8uzduwXvhMc8epocnlje yCksqTBmhovDUoexcp0bbr7xmzx/xeErDy57Rja00DFo7vBWB8atuerEcX4PrxsJN87F8slqmq08 tU4rZManLvCzKQC8WstOX1Y9d+LC7YehF+83cYtJySuaOy2cZK/xba2haX7Gn//S9Yz7GU+vR1bX cwnIqWq6bJ7gumbkMBKQkR78EiQLVbOuey0UxpnzHgrICIqi2VsyOvk6kynyf4QXNHDPsFHrbmtG edz5B3Gdg+QlzNpdYHlSkm8yl6CY8HBtvfVzxq11UpFnfYMHj8LOsJ/J62+ciYg7FMIzTF9rZ8RM o8s7e+ECQVL5eXUU77V1h5KvHX8pqDLCKdBR5diOJb1wgVxjlk9bTc6OTso8G1xLExEbrjXm4PnJ K8d3LELlH20bmTzk8J7wi3cfed/6yC0hOlxDe8Mvhov0OiUkMHVO0H5s8s3y2fa4rpkO6XFqXVwg AQHBdwSJzvri9r7i5ua2Y8eOAfLV+KtXr7aqTNQtAgICgn4O8b1AAgICAoIBCuECCQgICAgGKIQL JCAgICAYoBAukICAgIBggPItVoRKS0tHRUVFR0cPEJvKyMgMEE0JCAgIvmu+RS/QwcEhNzd3gBhU VlZ23rx5RMUiICAg6P/8H1i+bRQcC2oPAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain instead of the "changed outside" message you were getting... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 24 12:23:52 2021 Received: (at 49593) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2021 16:23:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7KRM-0005xY-B5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 12:23:52 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35138) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7KRL-0005xM-20 for 49593@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 12:23:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=8ptLoKKrZ/lrp4340MZI0Bfs+eKGm6JkC0sp1TWMvb4=; b=Ndue/9w4OcJX3eAlDOB4hqSKCk cKKdJSivonfQh//A28zbSa0iR2w/5wlW8hzFFcWMez2qwpul/PtRamggi9PPQjxTUBgp4/d7f3ts3 SEPqX3gVU6M9r8qNcIETHwMYE7EZNf7Pu6ugrFQSeawweHfdnzGDTvkpQ2VBIAR6PEq8=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m7KRC-00079h-Gf; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 18:23:44 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Paul W. Rankin" Subject: Re: bug#49593: Emacs overrides normal-erase-is-backspace References: <878s26d16t.fsf@gnus.org> <726cbb9e1c7656d897b349ac6c0a245a@purelymail.com> <87bl6zu8n3.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Yo La Tengo's _Summer Sun_: "Georgia vs. Yo La Tengo" Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 18:23:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87bl6zu8n3.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 18 Jul 2021 14:08:32 +0200") Message-ID: <87wnpf1y0h.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Hm, odd. I tried your recipe with the patch, and > > > > instead of the "changed outside" message you were getting... I've now pushed the patch, because it seems like the right thing, anyway. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49593 Cc: 49593@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Hm, odd. I tried your recipe with the patch, and > > > > instead of the "changed outside" message you were getting... I've now pushed the patch, because it seems like the right thing, anyway. If you're still seeing the problem (after this update), do you have a recipe to reproduce it, starting from "emacs -Q"? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 22 12:03:32 2021 Received: (at 49593) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2021 16:03:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mHpwV-0001Ad-LF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 12:03:31 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mHpwQ-0001AL-Ao for 49593@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 12:03:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tvF7LzwQ3P99Pl/+jjGBfZzWPT5coQNdGDjycc/w/ac=; b=nZYeEhcf1JZQu3ACvOhdh5Ekat q4v0xu/Xfqe1ub1KMUAO5iboaWEVy1liuUCpwEePFaRxRuQ38OyCqGhR7eDeAGoLxWHlwocbXtnHW 7OBAgx3qFGcFwQ2nCoIfPxO/i0dNgHBzliC+Xrhw3wOoY6r8qDQZvmo7tVxKsJEVzLy0=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mHpwD-0000Ax-Ad; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:03:13 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Paul W. Rankin" Subject: Re: bug#49593: Emacs overrides normal-erase-is-backspace References: <878s26d16t.fsf@gnus.org> <726cbb9e1c7656d897b349ac6c0a245a@purelymail.com> <87bl6zu8n3.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnpf1y0h.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:03:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wnpf1y0h.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 24 Jul 2021 18:23:42 +0200") Message-ID: <87lf4txy9v.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> instead of the "changed outside" message you were getting... > > I've now pushed the patch, because it seems like the right thing, > anyway. > > If you're still seeing the problem (after this updat [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49593 Cc: 49593@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> instead of the "changed outside" message you were getting... > > I've now pushed the patch, because it seems like the right thing, > anyway. > > If you're still seeing the problem (after this update), do you have a > recipe to reproduce it, starting from "emacs -Q"? More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, and since I'm not able to reproduce the problem, I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 22 12:03:35 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2021 16:03:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39724 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mHpwZ-0001Ao-VI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 12:03:35 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35062) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mHpwU-0001AR-D7 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 12:03:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Zmj4hca0ZOYLB/MSs0yYOiKcLZbQHC+LTO4+cNZGQd4=; b=QWWBs7YbORFAczyHcjOW85y7im Rjx20Ru8rfANYjaxV9gTkzjU0o13i/u9JVRvcTmdt5nuMub17Wj/FW8O6PoEhFTryA3WbZbYs+m+E RcGlOvlJTYseYT0OcOLVEkmDnxSqWkzYqTAaOHS+qBl8jDT2hbwtvkrIayYkM7LUAwys=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mHpwM-0000B6-LH for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:03:20 +0200 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:03:18 +0200 Message-Id: <87k0kdxy9l.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #49593 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: close 49593 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 49593 28.1 quit From unknown Thu Aug 14 18:32:43 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator