From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:19:23 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4948: Dead key misery Reply-To: occitan@esperanto.org, 4948@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Daniel Pfeiffer Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:10:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 4948 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125848812513947 (code B ref -1); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:10:05 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Nov 2009 20:02:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,MULTALT autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAHK2490013944 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:02:05 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:55964 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NAUFX-0006To-Qj for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:02:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAUFQ-0003LA-Gu for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:02:02 -0500 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]:57545) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAUFQ-0003KX-0z for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:01:56 -0500 Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NAUFN-0005IS-02; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:01:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (ZZ3tGaZYohyCUKcRyV9ciR2klDaHkJXuRS9uwusXoBHgZh7tjVloYXYGbFT0E0lQko@[91.35.206.30]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NAUFF-0iyJv60; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:01:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4B030127.5000101@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:01:43 +0100 From: Daniel Pfeiffer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070201000902030503000701" X-ID: ZZ3tGaZYohyCUKcRyV9ciR2klDaHkJXuRS9uwusXoBHgZh7tjVloYXYGbFT0E0lQko X-TOI-MSGID: 6c0d4fd4-121d-4ecd-9198-5cfd7e76ae3b X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070201000902030503000701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Long ago NEWS.19 got this delightful entry: ** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the /usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations). I.e. if it works in xterm, it should also work in emacs now. This has long since stopped working. I found a workaround of (require 'iso-transl), which handles a few cases but not even a western European dead-cedilla is handled. Even if I do (require 'ogonek), dead-ogonek is not handled. All other programs still do this fine, why did Emacs forget about this? Btw. this is Ubuntu 9.10 and the file name is /usr/*share*/X11/locale/*/Compose but I guess configure, which I ran from CVS should have detected that. coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn Daniel Pfeiffer -- lerne / learn / apprends / lär dig / ucz się Esperanto: http://lernu.net / http://ikurso.net --------------070201000902030503000701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Long ago NEWS.19 got this delightful entry:

** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard
X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the
/usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations).  I.e. if
it works in xterm, it should also work in emacs now.

This has long since stopped working.  I found a workaround of (require 'iso-transl), which handles a few cases but not even a western European dead-cedilla is handled.  Even if I do (require 'ogonek), dead-ogonek is not handled.  All other programs still do this fine, why did Emacs forget about this?

Btw. this is Ubuntu 9.10 and the file name is /usr/share/X11/locale/*/Compose but I guess configure, which I ran from CVS should have detected that.
coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn
Daniel Pfeiffer

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--------------070201000902030503000701-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:19:23 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4948: Dead key misery Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 4948@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4948 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 4948-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4948.125849656828454 (code B ref 4948); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:30:03 +0000 Received: (at 4948) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Nov 2009 22:22:48 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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I.e. if > it works in xterm, it should also work in Emacs now. > This has long since stopped working. I don't use dead keys, but I use the compose key extensively, and it works just fine in my Emacs. Can you give more detail to try and reproduce your problem? Stefan From rgm@gnu.org Thu Nov 19 14:11:46 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 Nov 2009 22:11:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,FVGT_m_MULTI_ODD, HAS_BUG_NUMBER,MIXEDBDN,MONEY,STOCKLIKE autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de (mailout03.t-online.de [194.25.134.81]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAJN292w023969 for <4948@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:02:10 -0800 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBG0s-0005Rc-01; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:02:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (EXJhGiZZYhC7XjgB+FE8XmRs0UJtuydbk7lg-FGeJ940butVUND+PWaIm4VzMEOQ+N@[91.35.219.81]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NBG0e-0JpzlI0; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:01:52 +0100 Message-ID: <4B05CE5E.9040805@t-online.de> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:01:50 +0100 From: Daniel Pfeiffer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Monnier CC: occitan@esperanto.org, 4948@debbugs.gnu.org References: <4B030127.5000101@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000206020900040404030905" X-ID: EXJhGiZZYhC7XjgB+FE8XmRs0UJtuydbk7lg-FGeJ940butVUND+PWaIm4VzMEOQ+N X-TOI-MSGID: d96a3a9e-be79-4703-adc4-a5c02281da3d This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000206020900040404030905 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080305060505070300040506" --------------080305060505070300040506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, la 11/17/2009 11:22 PM Stefan Monnier skribis: >> ** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard >> X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the >> /usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations). I.e. if >> it works in xterm, it should also work in Emacs now. >> This has long since stopped working. >> > > I don't use dead keys, but I use the compose key extensively, and it > works just fine in my Emacs. Can you give more detail to try and > reproduce your problem? > what details, I don't really know. It might be Ubuntu specific, because it appeared long ago when I switched from SuSE to Ubuntu. At the time I figured it must have to do with a newer Emacs, because xterm and all Gtk and Qt apps had and have no problem. Sorry I didn't report it then, I guess this is two years back. I think compose is not pertinent, because IMHO that does the combining in the X-server and sends the combined char, as though you had a key for it, like German äöüß is no problem even without loading iso-transl. I'm attaching my very personal keymap (which covers my normal German external keyboard, the built in American one, with Z and Y switched German style and Esperanto letters). I've stuffed in all dead-keys, like AltGr-, for cedilla, AltGr-Shift-, for ogonek and AltGr-^ for circumflex. I load it with xkbcomp -xkb .X/keymap/daniel $DISPLAY, but you could just as well just set one dead key with xmodmap IIRC. coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn Daniel Pfeiffer -- lerne / learn / apprends / lär dig / ucz się Esperanto: http://lernu.net / http://ikurso.net --------------080305060505070300040506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan,



la 11/17/2009 11:22 PM Stefan Monnier skribis: 
** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard
X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the
/usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations).  I.e. if
it works in xterm, it should also work in Emacs now.
This has long since stopped working.
    

I don't use dead keys, but I use the compose key extensively, and it
works just fine in my Emacs.  Can you give more detail to try and
reproduce your problem?
what details, I don't really know.  It might be Ubuntu specific, because it appeared long ago when I switched from SuSE to Ubuntu.  At the time I figured it must have to do with a newer Emacs, because xterm and all Gtk and Qt apps had and have no problem.  Sorry I didn't report it then, I guess this is two years back.

I think compose is not pertinent, because IMHO that does the combining in the X-server and sends the combined char, as though you had a key for it, like German äöüß is no problem even without loading iso-transl.

I'm attaching my very personal keymap (which covers my normal German external keyboard, the built in American one, with Z and Y switched German style and Esperanto letters).  I've stuffed in all dead-keys, like AltGr-, for cedilla,  AltGr-Shift-, for ogonek and AltGr-^ for circumflex.  I load it with xkbcomp -xkb .X/keymap/daniel $DISPLAY, but you could just as well just set one dead key with xmodmap IIRC.

coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn
Daniel Pfeiffer

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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,ONEWORD,VALID_BTS_CONTROL, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAMKQZMf001708 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:26:36 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NCJ0z-0006Bi-Dp; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:26:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19209.40569.376544.27633@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:26:33 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: yellow X-Ran: 6jB1n\`P{CqkNn0]KR*UF.{b9|)_@odtu}+wfWd\@*D~75=-Q3^-3)}u@fhJU{h'4uF8fP X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes tags 4948 = reassign 5011 emacs,ns reassign 5006 spam reassign 5004 spam reassign 4999 spam reassign 4998 spam reassign 4997 spam close 4993 From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:19:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#4948: Dead key misery References: <4B030127.5000101@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <4B030127.5000101@t-online.de> Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 01:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4948 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Daniel Pfeiffer Cc: Da Niel , Stefan Monnier , 4948@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 4948-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4948.15698922248615 (code B ref 4948); Tue, 01 Oct 2019 01:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 4948) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 01:10:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iF6gK-0002Et-FW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 21:10:24 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f177.google.com ([209.85.210.177]:46755) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iF6gI-0002Ee-NJ for 4948@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 21:10:23 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f177.google.com with SMTP id q5so6659561pfg.13 for <4948@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 18:10:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KyoyEf5mQeOSpIcePV84ccZVWiLHO9manHPIRGXd3oQ=; b=ImFr1F91hEMDB6UuzvKu5Ck0eM8Qrrlkr4Z6gToaNni45enGV/xn3wfiKWFFb6wfvD gr7ppxrqWFECcE/ojda9uQC3n9n9XNY3A1zQ/v2Z+iF5QB4X4wMyLH30j746KvNGYejb 1dJcl5MKoK7B3LjayOyqGCDIzCY5a0UFql+4KVGLPwY0eFN63gXVFVLZ/RA6jJuHOAsC hWDqke8izYbo+xbHrcaEaJbkJK0D62/KrgyL5V7X+k3V8ku4S3/fmzmJ11uMMVygHXtX BE8T6iMBy+wLAXu3Ad3QwMxcTvRCF1X3dbWDojhgPip8420MibGfBd/BKjEH4I3/u7+n phVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUQzHYfCu902+pKhLaYjMqnWFb++u4SG9TxU6z0DNy8yhTlLMK8 fHKS3IAgCOM+UwWffy0SsYn7ClNNesyyE/dwZ+4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy3tatlqcTjvDglJJIHx0feK1iqwNwveUs39RLx44f9AVXrFGpO/mjXN4usJnfhIiOKl/y8y9cWu9q8kVAytpQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:1150:: with SMTP id d16mr2525265pje.2.1569892216691; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 18:10:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 03:10:05 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Daniel Pfeiffer writes: > Hi Stefan, > > la 11/17/2009 11:22 PM Stefan Monnier skribis: > > ** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard > X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the > /usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations). I.e. if > it works in xterm, it should also work in Emacs now. > This has long since stopped working. > > > I don't use dead keys, but I use the compose key extensively, and it > works just fine in my Emacs. Can you give more detail to try and > reproduce your problem? > > what details, I don't really know. It might be Ubuntu specific, because it appeared long ago when I switched from SuSE to Ubuntu. At the time I figured it must have to do with a newer Emacs, because xterm and all Gtk and Qt apps had and have no problem. > Sorry I didn't report it then, I guess this is two years back. > > I think compose is not pertinent, because IMHO that does the combining in the X-server and sends the combined char, as though you had a key for it, like German dv|_ is no problem even without loading iso-transl. > > I'm attaching my very personal keymap (which covers my normal German external keyboard, the built in American one, with Z and Y switched German style and Esperanto letters). I've stuffed in all dead-keys, like AltGr-, for cedilla, AltGr-Shift-, for > ogonek and AltGr-^ for circumflex. I load it with xkbcomp -xkb .X/keymap/daniel $DISPLAY, but you could just as well just set one dead key with xmodmap IIRC. > > coralament / best Grvtens / liebe Gr|_e / best regards / elkorajn salutojn > Daniel Pfeiffer The last update here was ten years ago. Are you still seeing this issue on a modern version of Emacs? Dead keys seem to be working for me in Emacs 27.1. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:19:23 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: occitan@esperanto.org Subject: bug#4948: closed (Re: bug#4948: Dead key misery) Message-ID: References: <875zk6x875.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> <4B030127.5000101@t-online.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 4948 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 4948@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 20:59:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1572469143-4152-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1572469143-4152-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #4948: Dead key misery which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 4948@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 4948: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D4948 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1572469143-4152-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 4948-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2019 20:58:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iPv2j-00013K-OH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:58:13 -0400 Received: from giraff.fripost.org ([193.234.15.44]:42190 helo=outgoing.fripost.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iPv2i-000136-6Z for 4948-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:58:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outgoing.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CE9187E7C8; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:58:06 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=x.fripost.org; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:user-agent:message-id :in-reply-to:date:date:references:subject:subject:from:from; s= 9df9cdc7e101629b5003b587945afa70; t=1572469086; x=1574283487; bh=qeMzO6mIdmybYkx07U/E7FIL338ZEwBzSCPpXNgaMw0=; b=hFGbCFZNOcBd nzNUWorg+cT23rThC4opee7JJXrvkl5MzF57ciykb8E50KsmuFqoE6jU0WtEcxvM U17skJ8P04tT5YzU8fTlR9+JppQ5KP7jGUZ7+SOwJ1t1twgoRsNtOLqJakFM2R5B pFVCqHpUtE/GK9Enw+TyHt3rLcavpisfFXVoyxBpY4TCwsluQpZB+OZDjN75DI8o pVqTVp1snFljLuWcUiZ/B0Ac0eSqlVMttu3mirOIRXB/Fi14tjQ89RO5Ri+GbkRn OaxjmMDZQIGgETRdlIkkSxxBsT5MIsk3i4VhwDAtcQCJiXudBJhr3eiEVJWJ0L3R F5XaxEpsfg== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fripost.org Received: from outgoing.fripost.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (giraff.fripost.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10040) with LMTP id HobIShpIGOek; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:58:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.fripost.org (unknown [172.16.0.6]) by outgoing.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A850187E7C4; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:58:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by smtp.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D09F1599EDCD; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:57:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from skangas by joffe.skangas.se with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iPv26-0004eT-NY; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:57:34 +0100 From: Stefan Kangas To: Daniel Pfeiffer Subject: Re: bug#4948: Dead key misery References: <4B030127.5000101@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:57:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 1 Oct 2019 03:10:05 +0200") Message-ID: <875zk6x875.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4948-done Cc: Da Niel , Stefan Monnier , 4948-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Stefan Kangas writes: > The last update here was ten years ago. Are you still seeing this issue > on a modern version of Emacs? Dead keys seem to be working for me in > Emacs 27.1. More information was requested, but none was given within 4 weeks, so I'm closing this bug. If this is still an issue, please reopen the bug report. Best regards, Stefan Kangas ------------=_1572469143-4152-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Nov 2009 20:02:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,MULTALT autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAHK2490013944 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:02:05 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:55964 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NAUFX-0006To-Qj for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:02:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAUFQ-0003LA-Gu for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:02:02 -0500 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]:57545) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAUFQ-0003KX-0z for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:01:56 -0500 Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NAUFN-0005IS-02; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:01:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (ZZ3tGaZYohyCUKcRyV9ciR2klDaHkJXuRS9uwusXoBHgZh7tjVloYXYGbFT0E0lQko@[91.35.206.30]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NAUFF-0iyJv60; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:01:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4B030127.5000101@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:01:43 +0100 From: Daniel Pfeiffer Reply-To: occitan@esperanto.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: Dead key misery Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070201000902030503000701" X-ID: ZZ3tGaZYohyCUKcRyV9ciR2klDaHkJXuRS9uwusXoBHgZh7tjVloYXYGbFT0E0lQko X-TOI-MSGID: 6c0d4fd4-121d-4ecd-9198-5cfd7e76ae3b X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070201000902030503000701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Long ago NEWS.19 got this delightful entry: ** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the /usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations). I.e. if it works in xterm, it should also work in emacs now. This has long since stopped working. I found a workaround of (require 'iso-transl), which handles a few cases but not even a western European dead-cedilla is handled. Even if I do (require 'ogonek), dead-ogonek is not handled. All other programs still do this fine, why did Emacs forget about this? Btw. this is Ubuntu 9.10 and the file name is /usr/*share*/X11/locale/*/Compose but I guess configure, which I ran from CVS should have detected that. coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn Daniel Pfeiffer -- lerne / learn / apprends / lär dig / ucz się Esperanto: http://lernu.net / http://ikurso.net --------------070201000902030503000701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Long ago NEWS.19 got this delightful entry:

** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard
X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the
/usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations).  I.e. if
it works in xterm, it should also work in emacs now.

This has long since stopped working.  I found a workaround of (require 'iso-transl), which handles a few cases but not even a western European dead-cedilla is handled.  Even if I do (require 'ogonek), dead-ogonek is not handled.  All other programs still do this fine, why did Emacs forget about this?

Btw. this is Ubuntu 9.10 and the file name is /usr/share/X11/locale/*/Compose but I guess configure, which I ran from CVS should have detected that.
coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn
Daniel Pfeiffer

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lerne / learn / apprends / lär dig / ucz się    Esperanto:
                    http://lernu.net  /  http://ikurso.net
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