From unknown Tue Aug 19 07:28:43 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#49117 <49117@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#49117 <49117@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.1; Mention how to unlimit Reply-To: bug#49117 <49117@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:28:43 +0000 retitle 49117 27.1; Mention how to unlimit reassign 49117 emacs,gnus submitter 49117 =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson severity 49117 normal tag 49117 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 19 09:25:00 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2021 13:25:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1luay4-0004YB-J8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:25:00 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:53968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1luay3-0004Y3-3O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:24:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luay2-0006mt-Sn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:24:58 -0400 Received: from cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.47]:26332) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luaxy-00020r-4w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:24:58 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E67401D41 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-17-75.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.17.75]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4BA9A40258D for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:24:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a61.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.17.75 (trex/6.3.3); Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:24:50 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Macabre-Gusty: 1e1c148b7b9c7f5f_1624109090344_1686921463 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1624109090344:579313790 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1624109090343 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F9F7F110 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 06:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=L6kxJwwXV/Xa/ZUilifIAxir7dk=; b=c6FaONXs6P4XRBu0 vsyp56fWd/L+h8CqStWHxG3ZFrC0ZmLWrfCjBoszsBap1trHL3a7ywPH6BRLxwyu tsnfumjVG+yUy4TAZLrAC1aiZvTXyJ1MB7gibh5smOLqlNheAqCZZOP4bVo+lsqR n2eURYdSYk68/mfeih+yT0wem3w= Received: from jidanni.org (114-46-58-53.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.46.58.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D373D7F0D9 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 06:24:44 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a61 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.1; Mention how to unlimit X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:24:41 +0800 Message-ID: <87mtrmxa06.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.212.47; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) (info "(gnus) Limiting") mentions how to limit, but not then also how to unlimit back. Apparently one must "q" quit the summary, and then reenter it. OK, mention that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 19 09:28:59 2021 Received: (at 49117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2021 13:28:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58802 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lub1v-0004dd-57 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:28:59 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lub1t-0004dM-OV for 49117@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:28:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uDJq7SFvIV+IkOeOGpJ/ONtAlAnGH831KFjqNutpKl8=; b=AGekmh2JQ0mNMG7zPHmWVBDzHP 8UHMwHs9I2+CuW6FWgIrP0pp/MW18by6x9C7G3Fv2oSI83jHtL1D5uAGRXfQRvq0+e5taq3K9bHGQ IfAN5MauldKQnEVSQIGdO46t/6BZTYNAmn3ayTsPwXVBykICBOopIFWePaSR0nnqOwpg=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lub1l-0002x3-7Y; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 15:28:51 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#49117: 27.1; Mention how to unlimit References: <87mtrmxa06.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEXZNRbnOBakVypc Rx0dFhC3p1n////YFjVIAAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+UGEw0cIwt5kjwAAAG2SURBVDjL dZTBcuMgDIah272bnem9hnBPEb53LOUBilfv/yqVAMe4SXXwAJ+kHwmwsc5Z85LpKoPBJmP1cyHC M3ANkNjHI3B/FHz+SGWeA1fB5RGYmur1AZj4XOOf5wZAwDwoM/gKpvcMeD1A3BDMVFO+m4xDQAYy XHPOhiLfAwJANvylIvPEYuIsExmUACbyrOAvV/Li3BsXLyEmxTK71ytEBVMRgeK9poLE/HUBrKB4 5g3EMilYWIE4Mt+4LFoUCQAGviD64hNvq4eFoYMlSEEEPkHKtyDbDrmBtCWWEej0VlCUMqExCBBA AWWEjB18uAYW8ca4bMLQ+0BknSEBC/yXVLAmPTEQ7VXaRwhh3TS/xCJh3eusQBYwZl1ZpKnqoQEK ZJIEAC2BsALbAdU5pNhqbjesgWqpVkLUjtLsAUScq0I/4gZqE9Jd+ABaUzd7ArFkGoSfgT2gvQBM voPV/QChg+OetjoAam0wvJ4d5FbOfE4ljcrtY8cI7BuSMo/7W0EXlv4OF3toojicI+Bgn2eQ78Da X4A7RfRcmQD1edhDfBdBBfJLkKc/TUMdMtLV3UawDuAb74jGAZ7dpuoAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3Jl YXRlADIwMjEtMDYtMTlUMTM6Mjg6MzUrMDA6MDBrfJB1AAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIx LTA2LTE5VDEzOjI4OjM1KzAwOjAwGiEoyQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Oh Sees's _Face Stabber_: "Captain Loosley" Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 15:28:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mtrmxa06.5.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:24:41 +0800") Message-ID: <87fsxex9tb.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson writes: > (info "(gnus) Limiting") mentions how to limit, but not then also how to > unlimit back. > > Apparently one must "q" quit the summary, and then reenter it. > OK, mention that. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49117 Cc: 49117@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > (info "(gnus) Limiting") mentions how to limit, but not then also how to > unlimit back. > > Apparently one must "q" quit the summary, and then reenter it. > OK, mention that. @item / w @kindex / w @r{(Summary)} @findex gnus-summary-pop-limit Pop the previous limit off the stack and restore it (@code{gnus-summary-pop-limit}). If given a prefix, pop all limits off the stack. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: OK then I would, after, > Limiting commands work on subsets of the articles already fetched > from the servers. These commands don’t query the server for additional > articles. say: Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see ] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [23.83.212.50 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [23.83.212.50 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49117 Cc: 49117@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) OK then I would, after, > Limiting commands work on subsets of the articles already fetched > from the servers. These commands don=E2=80=99t query the server for ad= ditional > articles. say: "To cancel a limit, just use '/ w' as mentioned below." >>>>> "LI" =3D=3D Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: LI> =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes= : >> (info "(gnus) Limiting") mentions how to limit, but not then also how = to >> unlimit back. >>=20 >> Apparently one must "q" quit the summary, and then reenter it. >> OK, mention that. LI> @item / w LI> @kindex / w @r{(Summary)} LI> @findex gnus-summary-pop-limit LI> Pop the previous limit off the stack and restore it LI> (@code{gnus-summary-pop-limit}). If given a prefix, pop all limits o= ff LI> the stack. LI> Closing. LI> --=20 LI> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) LI> bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Aug 19 07:28:43 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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