From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:20:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#49114: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98guix_?= =?UTF-8?Q?lint=E2=80=99?= should catch certificate validation exceptions Resent-From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 11:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 49114 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 49114@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Bug Guix Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.162410216812127 (code B ref -1); Sat, 19 Jun 2021 11:30:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2021 11:29:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58637 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1luZAG-00039X-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:29:28 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44090) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1luZAE-00039P-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:29:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luZAB-0003iJ-PV for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:29:25 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([2a02:c205:2020:6054::1]:57850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luZA5-0001RJ-97 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:29:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=2018; bh=itDk9EfQMk18C acu4FIGJeM8bhmXGWqbxCuQruG+79c=; h=date:subject:to:from; d=tobias.gr; b=pfxmMBT169W5dWrdb+1Pnl2xcq4GWOT3R7CgtXiWDJEy6isd9OLYR64/YjkC113x2P5e XgoM96iPefARr4hzajqqu8B9FH5ouIlhcoFrxWPEFoPur/ttKYRzD62sxVYlOCjGiGygwK EfvGuJ6QKY84fLFkKFKcdLttmUHhLkEX9K/5CAYRwsG7DikLBckFBFJFDr0Gt4bq2qOo8A NjzLhb93Sh/HZWS+MnlVPzSwe245oTVfDQbYYbSERdciYh19F3xyrYzyDRUxFI4wM7polm 7t3jQ1etOzq3w4DBdkw1HFhrMHdSaZMW49Ov0bnsS4ooJeOTKJ7KRLujTUIYABRA== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5ef9c3b0 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 11:29:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default; Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:29:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87eecy3xeb.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:c205:2020:6054::1; envelope-from=me@tobias.gr; helo=tobias.gr X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guix, The linter should obviously warn about TLS errors but it should=20 not terminate processing. See =E2=80=98guix lint ibndp=E2=80=99 or =E2=80= =98guix lint=20 ttping=E2=80=99, where the hostname and certificate CN/SAN don't match. In any other situation Guix is probably right to throw a scary=20 error and abort, even if hashes are our primary defence, not TLS. Kind regards, T G-R --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYM3VLA0cbWVAdG9iaWFz LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15QD4A/RMEHCY66lQXkQQa1Tb70TWjf+ThETlu2xsWv0qG rP7PAP9rjrkuXweiqje7fiLEEjgDfkZkf0AkG+ptDJEkzrnvBA== =Vwle -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:20:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#49114: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98guix_?= =?UTF-8?Q?lint=E2=80=99?= should catch certificate validation exceptions Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 20:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49114 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 49114@debbugs.gnu.org, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Received: via spool by 49114-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49114.162448144120395 (code B ref 49114); Wed, 23 Jun 2021 20:51:01 +0000 Received: (at 49114) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2021 20:50:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41925 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lw9pY-0005It-Tr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:50:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lw9pY-0005Ii-6R for 49114@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:50:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50862) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lw9pS-0003P6-L0; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:50:34 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=35120 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lw9pS-0001EV-8t; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:50:34 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <87eecy3xeb.fsf@nckx> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 5 Messidor an 229 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 22:50:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eecy3xeb.fsf@nckx> (Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for's message of "Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:29:48 +0200") Message-ID: <87h7howbjc.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix skribis: > The linter should obviously warn about TLS errors but it should not > terminate processing. See =E2=80=98guix lint ibndp=E2=80=99 or =E2=80=98= guix lint ttping=E2=80=99, > where the hostname and certificate CN/SAN don't match. I don=E2=80=99t see these two packages in my checkout. Do you have other examples? Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:20:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#49114: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98guix_?= =?UTF-8?Q?lint=E2=80=99?= should catch certificate validation exceptions Resent-From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 23:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49114 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 49114@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 49114-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49114.16244900561726 (code B ref 49114); Wed, 23 Jun 2021 23:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 49114) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2021 23:14:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42033 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwC4V-0000Rm-QZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 19:14:15 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([80.241.217.52]:49060) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwC4U-0000Rd-Ab for 49114@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 19:14:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=2018; bh=OawKAe4RZz241 qmcLPjMt8Oa9dT6QPCRPUjFVucLJ+8=; h=date:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to: from:references; d=tobias.gr; b=cmJkGUfqMSFSx6mIVNm1D0pxla8JAKJmsQvgA1 28im+C/lshfp8oWs316Hj0+E9qqGOBnL/hueY3E+MsLCPO1iwEJhoMkdRKHav6VVaU2piR mZXF4eqDXKov92fi5sf41pkHq2IkJZC5EzGX+eFWnnSlzbpo5yOroM18EnBHCUGgVhhzcp yOCDuevB5BHQPn2RjkCIHy2IugrVEWyfV+kD7GyOCu8hnHR9PW6MBNB8NQ7d9UnQE69gn4 Nocsfup1uilog/N8I8G7HcX5IFuegFTB9BBcFyqnVmoSXDfim4tu37b1WdDc1ZCtqaiC5i /ZXZoP++1hyljnBe+6LEsE1w== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 72c009c5 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 23 Jun 2021 23:14:11 +0000 (UTC) References: <87eecy3xeb.fsf@nckx> <87h7howbjc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice In-reply-to: <87h7howbjc.fsf@gnu.org> BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default; Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 01:14:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87o8bwxjgb.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludovic Court=C3=A8s =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > I don=E2=80=99t see these two packages in my checkout. Do you have=20 > other > examples? Oh-kaay, I wonder what the devil went wrong there? I wish I still=20 had the original copy, but I don't. I wrote libndp and httping, of course :-D Thanks! T G-R --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYNPARA0cbWVAdG9iaWFz LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15BkkA/3qPpt+h8cIIG5jqNPgW/HX9OaojeaDUR0ksh/nR 2zDaAP9yb31uFCp7N+tBY/3hbQ9QNuCtJgDFQ3ZrcuaAYU9wDA== =Jup8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:20:00 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Subject: bug#49114: closed (Re: bug#49114: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98guix_?= =?UTF-8?Q?lint=E2=80=99?= should catch certificate validation exceptions) Message-ID: References: <87bl7vrl8w.fsf@gnu.org> <87eecy3xeb.fsf@nckx> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 49114 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 49114@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 21:45:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1624571102-24282-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1624571102-24282-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #49114: =E2=80=98guix lint=E2=80=99 should catch certificate validation exc= eptions which was filed against the guix package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 49114@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 49114: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D49114 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1624571102-24282-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 49114-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2021 21:44:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44266 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwX98-0006Ie-Df for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:44:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42272) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwX95-0006IP-SB for 49114-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:44:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwX8z-0007Xr-CL; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:44:17 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=40390 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwX8z-0001s4-3X; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:44:17 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Subject: Re: bug#49114: =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBsaW504oCZ?= should catch certificate validation exceptions References: <87eecy3xeb.fsf@nckx> <87h7howbjc.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8bwxjgb.fsf@nckx> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 23:44:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8bwxjgb.fsf@nckx> (Tobias Geerinckx-Rice's message of "Thu, 24 Jun 2021 01:14:12 +0200") Message-ID: <87bl7vrl8w.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49114-done Cc: 49114-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi! Tobias Geerinckx-Rice skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >> I don=E2=80=99t see these two packages in my checkout. Do you have other >> examples? > > Oh-kaay, I wonder what the devil went wrong there? I wish I still had > the original copy, but I don't. > > I wrote libndp and httping, of course :-D Oh! Fixed in 8a81ae61c183085b3a1edc4572d721ac5b2a581c. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. ------------=_1624571102-24282-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2021 11:29:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58637 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1luZAG-00039X-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:29:28 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44090) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1luZAE-00039P-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:29:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luZAB-0003iJ-PV for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:29:25 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([2a02:c205:2020:6054::1]:57850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luZA5-0001RJ-97 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:29:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=2018; bh=itDk9EfQMk18C acu4FIGJeM8bhmXGWqbxCuQruG+79c=; h=date:subject:to:from; d=tobias.gr; b=pfxmMBT169W5dWrdb+1Pnl2xcq4GWOT3R7CgtXiWDJEy6isd9OLYR64/YjkC113x2P5e XgoM96iPefARr4hzajqqu8B9FH5ouIlhcoFrxWPEFoPur/ttKYRzD62sxVYlOCjGiGygwK EfvGuJ6QKY84fLFkKFKcdLttmUHhLkEX9K/5CAYRwsG7DikLBckFBFJFDr0Gt4bq2qOo8A NjzLhb93Sh/HZWS+MnlVPzSwe245oTVfDQbYYbSERdciYh19F3xyrYzyDRUxFI4wM7polm 7t3jQ1etOzq3w4DBdkw1HFhrMHdSaZMW49Ov0bnsS4ooJeOTKJ7KRLujTUIYABRA== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5ef9c3b0 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 11:29:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice To: Bug Guix Subject: =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBsaW504oCZ?= should catch certificate validation exceptions BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default; Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:29:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87eecy3xeb.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:c205:2020:6054::1; envelope-from=me@tobias.gr; helo=tobias.gr X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guix, The linter should obviously warn about TLS errors but it should=20 not terminate processing. See =E2=80=98guix lint ibndp=E2=80=99 or =E2=80= =98guix lint=20 ttping=E2=80=99, where the hostname and certificate CN/SAN don't match. In any other situation Guix is probably right to throw a scary=20 error and abort, even if hashes are our primary defence, not TLS. Kind regards, T G-R --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYM3VLA0cbWVAdG9iaWFz LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15QD4A/RMEHCY66lQXkQQa1Tb70TWjf+ThETlu2xsWv0qG rP7PAP9rjrkuXweiqje7fiLEEjgDfkZkf0AkG+ptDJEkzrnvBA== =Vwle -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- ------------=_1624571102-24282-1--