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[71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h5sm3101710qkg.122.2021.06.10.13.36.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:36:34 -0400 Message-ID: <877dj1pict.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.14 (Gnus v5.14pre) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32; envelope-from=dick.r.chiang@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf32.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Without this patch, threaded nnimap painfully starts a new imap connection with every refresh. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Lift-a-2012-process-locked-to-thread-restriction.patch >From 6e9c04f4cd6b45aec319dad9e3dea4b9ec034c6b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: dickmao Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:19:16 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Lift a 2012 "process locked to thread" restriction Remove an unexplained error that forbade a thread from accepting output from a process it didn't start. * src/process.c (Faccept_process_output): remove the error (wait_reading_process_output): remove eassert to the same effect * test/src/thread-tests.el (threads-test-channel): add (threads-test-channel-send): add (threads-test-channel-recv): add (threads-signal-early): add (threads-test-bug33073): add (threads-test-bug36609-signal): add (threads-test-glib-lock): add (threads-test-promiscuous-process): add --- src/process.c | 29 +--------- test/src/thread-tests.el | 112 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- 2 files changed, 112 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/process.c b/src/process.c index c354f3a90d..df6c8e38a6 100644 --- a/src/process.c +++ b/src/process.c @@ -4728,27 +4728,6 @@ DEFUN ("accept-process-output", Faccept_process_output, Saccept_process_output, intmax_t secs; int nsecs; - if (! NILP (process)) - { - CHECK_PROCESS (process); - struct Lisp_Process *proc = XPROCESS (process); - - /* Can't wait for a process that is dedicated to a different - thread. */ - if (!NILP (proc->thread) && !EQ (proc->thread, Fcurrent_thread ())) - { - Lisp_Object proc_thread_name = XTHREAD (proc->thread)->name; - - error ("Attempt to accept output from process %s locked to thread %s", - SDATA (proc->name), - STRINGP (proc_thread_name) - ? SDATA (proc_thread_name) - : SDATA (Fprin1_to_string (proc->thread, Qt))); - } - } - else - just_this_one = Qnil; - if (!NILP (millisec)) { /* Obsolete calling convention using integers rather than floats. */ CHECK_FIXNUM (millisec); @@ -4786,14 +4765,14 @@ DEFUN ("accept-process-output", Faccept_process_output, Saccept_process_output, else wrong_type_argument (Qnumberp, seconds); } - else if (! NILP (process)) + else if (!NILP (process)) nsecs = 0; return ((wait_reading_process_output (secs, nsecs, 0, 0, Qnil, !NILP (process) ? XPROCESS (process) : NULL, - (NILP (just_this_one) ? 0 + ((NILP (process) || NILP (just_this_one)) ? 0 : !FIXNUMP (just_this_one) ? 1 : -1)) <= 0) ? Qnil : Qt); @@ -5156,10 +5135,6 @@ wait_reading_process_output (intmax_t time_limit, int nsecs, int read_kbd, /* Close to the current time if known, an invalid timespec otherwise. */ struct timespec now = invalid_timespec (); - eassert (wait_proc == NULL - || NILP (wait_proc->thread) - || XTHREAD (wait_proc->thread) == current_thread); - FD_ZERO (&Available); FD_ZERO (&Writeok); diff --git a/test/src/thread-tests.el b/test/src/thread-tests.el index fc7bc7441b..6bafdb1d29 100644 --- a/test/src/thread-tests.el +++ b/test/src/thread-tests.el @@ -20,6 +20,8 @@ ;;; Code: (require 'thread) +(require 'eieio) +(require 'ring) ;; Declare the functions in case Emacs has been configured --without-threads. (declare-function all-threads "thread.c" ()) @@ -42,6 +44,26 @@ (declare-function thread-yield "thread.c" ()) (defvar main-thread) +(defclass threads-test-channel () + ((condition :initarg :condition :type condition-variable) + (msg-queue :initarg :msg-queue :type ring))) + +(cl-defgeneric threads-test-channel-send ((channel threads-test-channel) message) + (with-slots (condition msg-queue) channel + (with-mutex (condition-mutex condition) + (while (<= (ring-size msg-queue) (ring-length msg-queue)) + (condition-wait condition)) + (ring-insert msg-queue message) + (condition-notify condition t)))) + +(cl-defgeneric threads-test-channel-recv ((channel threads-test-channel)) + (with-slots (condition msg-queue) channel + (with-mutex (condition-mutex condition) + (while (ring-empty-p msg-queue) + (condition-wait condition)) + (prog1 (ring-remove msg-queue) + (condition-notify condition t))))) + (ert-deftest threads-is-one () "Test for existence of a thread." (skip-unless (featurep 'threads)) @@ -318,7 +340,7 @@ threads-signal-early (make-thread (lambda () (while t (thread-yield)))))) (thread-signal thread 'error nil) - (sit-for 1) + (funcall (if noninteractive #'sit-for #'sleep-for) 1) (should-not (thread-live-p thread)) (should (equal (thread-last-error) '(error))))) @@ -389,7 +411,93 @@ threads-condvar-wait (should (equal (thread-last-error) '(error "Die, die, die!"))))) (ert-deftest threads-test-bug33073 () + (skip-unless (featurep 'threads)) (let ((th (make-thread 'ignore))) (should-not (equal th main-thread)))) -;;; threads.el ends here +(ert-deftest threads-test-bug36609-signal () + "Would only fail under TEST_INTERACTIVE=yes, and not every time. +The failure manifests only by being unable to exit the interactive emacs." + (skip-unless (featurep 'threads)) + (let* ((cv (make-condition-variable (make-mutex) "CV")) + condition + (notify (lambda () + (sleep-for 1) ;; let wait() start spinning first + (with-mutex (condition-mutex cv) + (setq condition t) + (condition-notify cv)))) + (wait (lambda () (with-mutex (condition-mutex cv) + (while (not condition) + (condition-wait cv))))) + (herring (make-thread (apply-partially #'sleep-for 1000) "unrelated"))) + ;; herring is a non-main thread that, if the bug is still present, + ;; could assume the glib context lock when the main thread executes wait() + (make-thread notify "notify") + (funcall wait) + (thread-signal herring 'quit nil))) + +(ert-deftest threads-test-glib-lock () + "Would only fail under TEST_INTERACTIVE=yes, and not every time. +The failure manifests only by being unable to exit the interactive emacs." + (skip-unless (featurep 'threads)) + (cl-macrolet ((run-thread + (name what) + `(make-thread + (lambda () + (sleep-for (1+ (random 3))) + (funcall ,what)) + ,name))) + (let* ((n 3) + (capacity 1) + (channel (make-instance + 'threads-test-channel + :condition (make-condition-variable (make-mutex) "channel") + :msg-queue (make-ring capacity)))) + (dotimes (i n) + (let ((send-name (format "send-%d" (1+ i))) + (recv-name (format "recv-%d" (- n i)))) + (run-thread send-name + (lambda () (threads-test-channel-send channel 42))) + (run-thread recv-name + (lambda () (threads-test-channel-recv channel)))))))) + +(ert-deftest threads-test-promiscuous-process () + "Can't we `accept-process-output' of a process started by another thread? +For whatever reason, in 2012, tromey inserted an assertion forbidding this. +We test flouting that edict here." + (skip-unless (featurep 'threads)) + (thread-last-error t) + (let* ((thread-tests-main (get-buffer-create "thread-tests-main" t)) + (buffers (list thread-tests-main)) + (start-proc (lambda (n b) + (apply #'start-process n b "cat" (split-string "/dev/urandom")))) + (n 3)) + (funcall start-proc "threads-tests-main" (car buffers)) + (dotimes (i (1- n)) + (push (get-buffer-create (format "thread-tests-%d" i) t) buffers) + (make-thread (apply-partially start-proc + (format "thread-tests-%d" i) + (car buffers)))) + (let ((procs (mapcar #'get-buffer-process buffers))) + (dotimes (i (1- n)) + (make-thread + (lambda () + (cl-loop repeat 5 + do (accept-process-output + (nth (random (length procs)) procs) + 0.2 + nil + t))) + (format "thread-tests-%d" i))) + (should (cl-loop repeat 20 + unless (cl-some + (lambda (thr) + (cl-search "thread-tests-" (thread-name thr))) + (all-threads)) + return t + do (accept-process-output + (nth (random (length procs)) procs) 1.0) + finally return nil))) + (mapc (lambda (b) (kill-buffer b)) buffers)) + (should-not (thread-last-error t))) +;;; thread-tests.el ends here -- 2.26.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30, cairo version 1.15.10) of 2021-06-09 built on dick Repository revision: 6dffe81dd7a91b6ed61e6e9a0e523587f394744c Repository branch: gnus-dev-28 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11906000 System Description: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/home/dick/.local' Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: ELisp/d Minor modes in effect: async-bytecomp-package-mode: t 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List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:36:34 -0400 > > Without this patch, threaded nnimap painfully starts a new imap connection > with every refresh. > > >From 6e9c04f4cd6b45aec319dad9e3dea4b9ec034c6b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: dickmao > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:19:16 -0400 > Subject: [PATCH] Lift a 2012 "process locked to thread" restriction > > Remove an unexplained error that forbade a thread from > accepting output from a process it didn't start. That's a non-starter, sorry. This restriction is one of the design goals, so Emacs behaves here as intended. It is not a bug, at least not where you suggest the fix. 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[71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m68sm4102457qkb.75.2021.06.11.03.26.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 11 Jun 2021 03:26:29 -0700 (PDT) From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com References: <877dj1pict.fsf@dick> <8335tpaqvw.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 06:26:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8335tpaqvw.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:53:39 +0300") Message-ID: <871r98d7e3.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.14 (Gnus v5.14pre) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Well, this response and that of #bug36609 effectively puts the kibosh on my dream of Gnus 2.0 (a working version at github.com/dickmao/gnus I run rather delightedly every day). It's a more-than-5000 line change thus far, so given the vigorous pushback on what I considered to be non-controversial changes in #bug48949 and #bug36609, it never really had a chance. Gnus is such an awesome idea, but it is so, so poorly written and obtuse. In fairness to its original authors, I could not have written it better if I were 20yo and worked on it alongside a full-time job. Heck at that age I could barely piece together a sentence, much less write a kitchen-sink messaging system in an impoverished, early implementation of elisp. My narcissism is such that I feel I'm the only person on the planet with the time and skill to "Make Gnus Great (MGG)", not "Great Again" since it was never that. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:32:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#48949: 28.0.50; Thread-Process Liberalization Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48949 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 48949@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 48949-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48949.162340921325478 (code B ref 48949); Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 48949) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2021 11:00:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lretZ-0006cs-5G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:00:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38796) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lretV-0006bZ-7F for 48949@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:00:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41420) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lretP-0006mY-JQ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:00:03 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1618 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lretP-0001vl-2a; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:00:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:59:51 +0300 Message-Id: <83r1h8acpk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871r98d7e3.fsf@dick> (dick.r.chiang@gmail.com) References: <877dj1pict.fsf@dick> <8335tpaqvw.fsf@gnu.org> <871r98d7e3.fsf@dick> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com > Cc: 48949@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 06:26:28 -0400 > > Well, this response and that of #bug36609 effectively puts the kibosh on > my dream of Gnus 2.0 (a working version at github.com/dickmao/gnus I > run rather delightedly every day). It's a more-than-5000 line change thus > far, so given the vigorous pushback on what I considered to be > non-controversial changes in #bug48949 and #bug36609, it never really had a > chance. I don't understand: why being able to wait for a process that is locked to another thread is so important for what you wanted to do? And if it _is_ important, then why not unlock the process, so that its output could be processed by any thread? 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[71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q190sm6419283qkf.133.2021.06.12.07.51.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 12 Jun 2021 07:51:46 -0700 (PDT) From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com References: <877dj1pict.fsf@dick> <8335tpaqvw.fsf@gnu.org> <871r98d7e3.fsf@dick> <83r1h8acpk.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:51:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83r1h8acpk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:59:51 +0300") Message-ID: <87fsxni1a6.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.14 (Gnus v5.14pre) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) EZ> why not unlock the process, so that its output could be EZ> processed by any thread? Yes, why don't I just call pset_thread(proc, Qnil) when the mood strikes in process.c? You make it sound as if pset_thread is an exposed defun. Nine years ago, tromey in commit 6c0d5ae declaimed the notion of locking a thread to a process. Other than raising an error when a thread tried to accept output from a process not its own, there appears to my untrained eye no other ramification, good or bad, of pset_thread. 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[71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k9sm6655516qkh.11.2021.06.12.07.56.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 12 Jun 2021 07:56:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Eli Zaretskii X-Google-Original-From: Eli Zaretskii References: <877dj1pict.fsf@dick> <8335tpaqvw.fsf@gnu.org> <871r98d7e3.fsf@dick> <83r1h8acpk.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsxni1a6.fsf@dick> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:56:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fsxni1a6.fsf@dick> (dick r. chiang's message of "Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:51:45 -0400") Message-ID: <878s3fi11m.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.14 (Gnus v5.14pre) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) drc> Yes, why don't I just call pset_thread(proc, Qnil) when the mood strikes drc> in process.c? You make it sound as if pset_thread is an exposed defun. Ah, I'm an ass. There is indeed a defun set-process-thread. 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[71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 197sm507661qke.49.2021.06.12.08.01.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <60c4cc47.1c69fb81.d19e4.2eda@mx.google.com> From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com X-Google-Original-From: jimmyvalmer@ycombinator.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:01:27 -0400 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: control message for bug #48949 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 48949 notabug close 48949 quit From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:32:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#48949: 28.0.50; Thread-Process Liberalization Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48949 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Cc: 48949@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 48949-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48949.162351063012684 (code B ref 48949); Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 48949) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2021 15:10:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ls5HK-0003IV-AL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:10:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ls5HI-0003IJ-F7 for 48949@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:10:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ls5HB-00021r-Rk; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:10:23 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2331 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ls5Gx-000527-3x; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:10:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:09:57 +0300 Message-Id: <838s3f86gq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87fsxni1a6.fsf@dick> (dick.r.chiang@gmail.com) References: <877dj1pict.fsf@dick> <8335tpaqvw.fsf@gnu.org> <871r98d7e3.fsf@dick> <83r1h8acpk.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsxni1a6.fsf@dick> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com > Cc: 48949@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:51:45 -0400 > > EZ> why not unlock the process, so that its output could be > EZ> processed by any thread? > > Yes, why don't I just call pset_thread(proc, Qnil) when the mood strikes in > process.c? You make it sound as if pset_thread is an exposed defun. No, I meant to use set-process-thread from Lisp. That's what it is for, and this stuff is documented in the ELisp manual. (And I still don't fully understand why you'd need that, but if you really do, you can; no C source-level changes needed.)