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globalized-minor-modes in new fundamental mode buffers

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Message #25 received at 4887 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Mark Lillibridge <mark.lillibridge <at> hp.com>
To: monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Cc: 4887 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rgm <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4887: 23.1; list-load-path-shadows produces broken buffer
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:57:10 -0800

>  >     Should linum use a different implementation method than
>  > define-globalized-minor-mode?  (does one exist?)
>  
>  You mean global-linum-mode?  Yes, it could use a different method,
>  e.g. setting global hooks instead, but that might prove tricky.
>  
>  >     Should we instead fix define-globalized-minor-mode to work with all
>  > buffers?  Its documentation via ^h f claims it works in every buffer:
>  
>  That would be the best solution, yes.

    I agree.  Any fix that worked for global-linum-mode should
presumably be implemented as part of define-globalized-minor-mode so
that other global minor modes can benefit as well.


>  Given the hooks we currently have, it's not very easy because buffers
>  like *Shadows* get created without running any hook, so basically the
>  first hook that would get triggered might be something like
>  window-configuration-change-hook, but that hooks has no easy way to
>  decide whether that buffer was just created recently or on the contrary
>  has been around for a long while (in which case enabling linum-mode
>  might be very wrong since the user may have turned it off there
>  earlier).

    I thought about using advice on get-buffer-create, but the manual
recommends creating a hook instead.  Could we create a new-buffer hook?  
That would certainly solve the problem and simplify
define-globalized-minor-mode.  I wonder though, if this would call the
minor mode turn on function too early in some cases.

    Alternatively, it doesn't look very hard to use
window-configuration-change-hook; we would have to add some storage to
remember which buffers we had already enabled any given minor mode in.


>  An easier solution is to not change anything to
>  define-globalized-minor-mode and to require Elisp code to explicitly set
>  a major mode for any buffer that will be displayed.  E.g. for *Shadows*
>  the Elisp code should explicitly call fundamental-mode in it.

This would work as well; who makes the call on these sorts of things?
(This is a change of conventions more than a code patch.)

- Mark

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