From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 02 14:43:00 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 18:43:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loVpU-0005To-CW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:43:00 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60204) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loVpR-0005Tg-U9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:42:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58930) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loVpR-0000oA-Is for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:42:57 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:58486) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loVpO-0008LO-L6 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:42:57 -0400 Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FwHvw1gxMzDqJt for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 11:42:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1622659372; bh=HERE5EbGorTHGvAoJSC4bm0+9z5FZzf0tNAHycDEsMQ=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=qrgPT8XFjuuay2W9J+uWVCh6yOOtZyXKWzDSLrRASzKgWa/KaYZ1CZmUioxYWsx6d nUnJNUIePaSZeOfUWxMfEJc380B+QvP1Kp1R46zuDNCHc3/RTFsldEuoZwpoa1suNF T4rmX0W4Nc7oFRsIhOK7G/IGjde5tJ/EZd15Vb74= X-Riseup-User-ID: 41E212234E354897B19B71D1CD7B8B7FB147278549F0F3277734A28ED1F5DD31 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FwHvv3Qtjz1y6h for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 11:42:51 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-guix@gnu.org From: bo0od Subject: Make guix room available over matrix Message-ID: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 18:42:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=bo0od@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hi There, I saw that guix shifted from freenode to libera (due to freenode incident), Well it turns that libera just another freenode when it comes to Anti-Tor/Anti-Privacy: https://github.com/Libera-Chat/libera-chat.github.io/issues/63 Since Guix as well jumped under libera umbrella it has the same issue which no one can talk to guix irc room unless hes using clearnet IP or VPN ip then shift to Tor (long run to just talk about couple of issues with good privacy) As better alternative to whole IRC thing is to use Matrix and you can bridge the two rooms (matrix <-> IRC) with that no headache of registration and blocked connections...etc ThX! From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 02 16:23:13 2021 Received: (at 48793) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 20:23:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41407 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loXOT-00080c-9w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 16:23:13 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:39168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loXOQ-00080Q-QK for 48793@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 16:23:12 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 089ab379; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 20:23:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; s=dkim; bh=xecFA0Wkq4IIwtYZNHxSPqK/ELddF2tmyMRAVJkFo+E=; b=Z8LbHEPLtpny Ozvamoxynv+Qz3EXKdgehi7t8n2u/boSdzIZcuHtXHsiA9VKyIkcM4PERxKB4KSf lx2rJFSo5lTAnadZ/k3s4n0gSbxZXcgCDMPoolQyriXW45RLC8sQub53QBaTZvBv NGnvbnh1N119Wg4d0by/ieN0mWv5xf3AWdIrzZmxyDzCdES6N9ealbmmXzqq8lyI EQts+fNoat4KxpzlDvcpYpNi5rZq75xk5sjVf8Yntoj5RWZlV8zqwlGqypCHuzt4 Q3nMiw/jqG6FSnJRx17SdxSLwm8JZx1rrWdRQoPJG/mEhB+b2AiH/mpmOOoPZLko RoeHYDpGTw== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 7c839ebc (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 2 Jun 2021 20:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 16:22:57 -0400 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----Q6OHMX1Z8IP9FZRBNHY8YEHSM3L83I" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: bo0od ,48793@debbugs.gnu.org From: Julien Lepiller Message-ID: <430E6D63-7F7B-401C-B2F3-565CEA8AE037@lepiller.eu> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48793 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------Q6OHMX1Z8IP9FZRBNHY8YEHSM3L83I Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi BoOod, You can use the bridge at #guix:libera=2Echat I think=2E Le 2 juin 2021 14:42:47 GMT-04:00, bo0od a =C3=A9crit= : >Hi There, > >I saw that guix shifted from freenode to libera (due to freenode=20 >incident), Well it turns that libera just another freenode when it >comes=20 >to Anti-Tor/Anti-Privacy: > >https://github=2Ecom/Libera-Chat/libera-chat=2Egithub=2Eio/issues/63 > >Since Guix as well jumped under libera umbrella it has the same issue=20 >which no one can talk to guix irc room unless hes using clearnet IP or=20 >VPN ip then shift to Tor (long run to just talk about couple of issues=20 >with good privacy) > >As better alternative to whole IRC thing is to use Matrix and you can=20 >bridge the two rooms (matrix <-> IRC) with that no headache of=20 >registration and blocked connections=2E=2E=2Eetc > >ThX! ------Q6OHMX1Z8IP9FZRBNHY8YEHSM3L83I Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi BoOod,

You can use the bridge at #guix:l= ibera=2Echat I think=2E

Le 2 juin 2021 14= :42:47 GMT-04:00, bo0od <bo0od@riseup=2Enet> a =C3=A9crit : 
Hi There,

I saw that guix shifted from freeno=
de to libera (due to freenode 
incident), Well it turns that libera just=
 another freenode when it comes 
to Anti-Tor/Anti-Privacy:

=
https://github=2Ecom/Libera-Chat/libera-chat=2Egithub=2Eio/issues/63
Since Guix as well jumped under libera umbrella it has the same issue =

which no one can talk to guix irc room unless hes using clearnet IP or =

VPN ip then shift to Tor (long run to just talk about couple of issues =

with good privacy)

As better alternative to whole IRC thing is t=
o use Matrix and you can 
bridge the two rooms (matrix <-> IRC) wi=
th that no headache of 
registration and blocked connections=2E=2E=2Eetc=


ThX!



------Q6OHMX1Z8IP9FZRBNHY8YEHSM3L83I-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 02 16:33:00 2021 Received: (at 48793) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 20:33:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41416 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loXXw-0008FZ-L1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 16:33:00 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([80.241.217.52]:43528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loXXu-0008FR-Ru for 48793@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 16:32:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tobias.gr; s=2018; bh=LLdY6YXbByV1M8/iq5iuE51o8ZHuP4SIbnpttGfJF0Q=; h=date:in-reply-to: subject:cc:to:from:references; b=VS6A3RqeTgglABOBAJ9ux2LWamjQbOljZ4T+H soPdhlvr5zrGqY5WIZlbTN5OceDc5LwYx2d+yrSfDhnU/9QAq2a0fkauZ82kIyq/hYVS8P DwmWBT9WjoON8vDFw8YllIGJ0ZpHvQ0XbbZaqFy46ZNNMsxQVGmmxryJiTdJLX2n5qo/1j jE6OS2LTBU6h8igE3xoMGvsI/nmAOddZ9KszHMq7kyGsZTgIJhCwPYlbCjX5Mwa1xVV5n3 Z5qVbvDSj9ewj8TF0X/9HeaFeoByWfzTLFf2VZJZrJPILF4MOW+uKNFvhIRFJUWvSSGzXm umGSwTxhaESizDEA+hxammJbQ== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 4046fc9d (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 2 Jun 2021 20:32:56 +0000 (UTC) References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice To: bo0od Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix In-reply-to: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default; Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 22:32:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87tumgm2h3.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48793 Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, 48793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi bo0od, The #guix channel is already bridged over Matrix. Is there a bug in the bridge? It's better to report that directly to Libera. Otherwise, this sounds like it belongs in the existing thread on guix-devel@ where everyone can suggest and discuss their favourite protocol, not on the Guix bug tracker. Kind regards, T G-R --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYLfq+A0cbWVAdG9iaWFz LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15XqEA/jsdVFQUZQ50lZLYbZzVtkvrzcUevJUXAS9oV65r EoO+AP9dcH62LPDxciHdWbtBwdvTzRWI//gr48jcLy0Izpm3CQ== =ONkb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 02 17:39:39 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 21:39:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41490 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loYaR-0001Sv-6z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:39:39 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:41002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loYaQ-0001Sm-3y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:39:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loYaP-0007we-Rn for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:39:37 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:33632) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loYaN-0004cA-Ka for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:39:37 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FwMqn6NGRzDq8t; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 14:39:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1622669973; bh=wu3WJImoEOqFx1uwZYYYAk6UnTiCof70VEipEdeXObU=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Z16bIQUCbZPfNo8W9MBB0QppyMM89TtMkvb/wRtyZYk2yiVBv45dzadujfPz64dCK c2zUixD9BO7tf5P0+U1lx3wZytYWWeW31M0gQ5N6GhOVEXEK5KnAM+Y1lDRCOn00Rh atR43rwS15qLVEScRGzUJt3WNiHo/tSAFNtbJu0s= X-Riseup-User-ID: FAA2F65EB52CE4085653ADB4886B3339D4882FECC4E5A30804C405C1E97ADEE4 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FwMql6vL1z5vfB; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 14:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <87tumgm2h3.fsf@nckx> From: bo0od Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 21:39:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87tumgm2h3.fsf@nckx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=bo0od@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, 48793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) > The #guix channel is already bridged over Matrix. Is there a bug in the > bridge? It's better to report that directly to Libera. Im not sure im following, Does guix has its own room over matrix or not? if yes what is it if not thats why i opened this ticket. > Otherwise, this sounds like it belongs in the existing thread on > guix-devel@ where everyone can suggest and discuss their favourite > protocol, not on the Guix bug tracker. ah i see, didnt know that i should close this and report there or continue here ? Tobias Geerinckx-Rice: > Hi bo0od, > > The #guix channel is already bridged over Matrix.  Is there a bug in the > bridge?  It's better to report that directly to Libera. > > Otherwise, this sounds like it belongs in the existing thread on > guix-devel@ where everyone can suggest and discuss their favourite > protocol, not on the Guix bug tracker. > > Kind regards, > > T G-R From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 02 17:46:29 2021 Received: (at 48793) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 21:46:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41498 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loYh3-0001dP-7T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:46:29 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:46552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loYh2-0001dE-9l for 48793@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:46:28 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FwMzf65g9zDv4J; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 14:46:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1622670382; bh=vDCsObejsjUg0K36VwzcKuaLuzhoOd8HkHGTamAZVvs=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=AGddWxcplLxrAAW3dA4wzmRCfyhWoQeccOJthJ/lkNO7B3VL9eQlZKeyNEwty+xKb e2LisRHxNmfd4qXGi6HYB8Y64LgTRqidDLC7x67bA6mJwfWwYzXx/QzblK+Z730hLh HKldb/vsPmMzwS1rqLRjQPrOzh8YsE7SgM7JRKjs= X-Riseup-User-ID: CA7430093DF309E6B0F13D5D6D01A13D910F938BED5E2DA01BCECDFA54B58EB5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FwMzd3gkFz5vfB; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 14:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: Julien Lepiller , 48793@debbugs.gnu.org References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <430E6D63-7F7B-401C-B2F3-565CEA8AE037@lepiller.eu> From: bo0od Message-ID: <0162f70f-2b40-effa-ce24-ba20dbaa4678@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 21:46:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <430E6D63-7F7B-401C-B2F3-565CEA8AE037@lepiller.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48793 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) I dont believe this will make libera.chat accept Tor connection for registration or accessing their IRC rooms. guix should have matrix room within matrix (so as within IRC) not IRC room accessed by matrix client. Julien Lepiller: > Hi BoOod, > > You can use the bridge at #guix:libera.chat I think. > > Le 2 juin 2021 14:42:47 GMT-04:00, bo0od a écrit : >> Hi There, >> >> I saw that guix shifted from freenode to libera (due to freenode >> incident), Well it turns that libera just another freenode when it >> comes >> to Anti-Tor/Anti-Privacy: >> >> https://github.com/Libera-Chat/libera-chat.github.io/issues/63 >> >> Since Guix as well jumped under libera umbrella it has the same issue >> which no one can talk to guix irc room unless hes using clearnet IP or >> VPN ip then shift to Tor (long run to just talk about couple of issues >> with good privacy) >> >> As better alternative to whole IRC thing is to use Matrix and you can >> bridge the two rooms (matrix <-> IRC) with that no headache of >> registration and blocked connections...etc >> >> ThX! > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 02 17:50:17 2021 Received: (at 48793) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 21:50:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loYki-0001iv-O4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:50:17 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:39192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loYkg-0001ik-Kk for 48793@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:50:15 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9ad4aa6b; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 21:50:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; s=dkim; bh=Os32B1k7BwKuNus6SEwg0s6wnRXG7WDadXMq5Yy/Ck8=; b=DfiqIgD9+urH gA/kLNzMbQAcjJl4UGqfOCPTm1+T406Suv4WIFUdzjYhfoU91bfyUUhHZxoqbzGC r5rMvT6t88q6LuZLu88OAf+N/ttnwVMLK9OsCrgXAdHam1dyMvzmGPIr66sqPMkv r9vQT5WD3r2/pPzeJine9kKx5Wz5qHZH1CD3XuLhtyvWPdaDkP0fht+GDuv6JLK2 VHcV96BDpQZt1/bUi2Kdrl65k3sqNdg0E16qG5vQBq39/OGRKPGrrZxhJaYEwDr0 BVmk/W3quTsFMAnxW5iXzSS+6vbnJsuIMWZt8DbkqDZ4XQ7gFFmPl1bIg2AYuXrW B+MsH7ASAg== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id a1190db0 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 2 Jun 2021 21:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:50:05 -0400 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <0162f70f-2b40-effa-ce24-ba20dbaa4678@riseup.net> References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <430E6D63-7F7B-401C-B2F3-565CEA8AE037@lepiller.eu> <0162f70f-2b40-effa-ce24-ba20dbaa4678@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----IRA63886OKT86OVU29BRS084MJMOG0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: bo0od ,48793@debbugs.gnu.org From: Julien Lepiller Message-ID: <3A626254-C9B4-415A-ADA2-7D476B5FFFFE@lepiller.eu> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48793 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------IRA63886OKT86OVU29BRS084MJMOG0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't understand=2E There's #guix:matrix=2Eorg too, but it's not bridged = to IRC=2E Le 2 juin 2021 17:46:19 GMT-04:00, bo0od a =C3=A9crit= : >I dont believe this will make libera=2Echat accept Tor connection for=20 >registration or accessing their IRC rooms=2E > >guix should have matrix room within matrix (so as within IRC) not IRC=20 >room accessed by matrix client=2E > > > >Julien Lepiller: >> Hi BoOod, >>=20 >> You can use the bridge at #guix:libera=2Echat I think=2E >>=20 >> Le 2 juin 2021 14:42:47 GMT-04:00, bo0od a =C3=A9c= rit : >>> Hi There, >>> >>> I saw that guix shifted from freenode to libera (due to freenode >>> incident), Well it turns that libera just another freenode when it >>> comes >>> to Anti-Tor/Anti-Privacy: >>> >>> https://github=2Ecom/Libera-Chat/libera-chat=2Egithub=2Eio/issues/63 >>> >>> Since Guix as well jumped under libera umbrella it has the same >issue >>> which no one can talk to guix irc room unless hes using clearnet IP >or >>> VPN ip then shift to Tor (long run to just talk about couple of >issues >>> with good privacy) >>> >>> As better alternative to whole IRC thing is to use Matrix and you >can >>> bridge the two rooms (matrix <-> IRC) with that no headache of >>> registration and blocked connections=2E=2E=2Eetc >>> >>> ThX! >>=20 ------IRA63886OKT86OVU29BRS084MJMOG0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't understand=2E There's #guix:matrix=2Eorg t= oo, but it's not bridged to IRC=2E

Le 2 j= uin 2021 17:46:19 GMT-04:00, bo0od <bo0od@riseup=2Enet> a =C3=A9crit = :
I dont believe this will make libera=2Echat accept T=
or connection for 
registration or accessing their IRC rooms=2E

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uix should have matrix room within matrix (so as within IRC) not IRC 
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Julien Lepiller:
Hi BoOod,

You can use the b=
ridge at #guix:libera=2Echat I think=2E

Le 2 juin 2021 14:42:47 GMT-=
04:00, bo0od <bo0od@riseup=2Enet> a =C3=A9crit :
 Hi There,

 I saw that guix shifted =
from freenode to libera (due to freenode
 incident), Well it turns that =
libera just another freenode when it
 comes
 to Anti-Tor/Anti-Privacy=
:

 https://github=2Ecom/Libera-Chat/libera-chat=2Egithub=2Eio=
/issues/63

 Since Guix as well jumped under libera umbrella it h=
as the same issue
 which no one can talk to guix irc room unless hes usi=
ng clearnet IP or
 VPN ip then shift to Tor (long run to just talk about=
 couple of issues
 with good privacy)

 As better alternative to w=
hole IRC thing is to use Matrix and you can
 bridge the two rooms (matri=
x <-> IRC) with that no headache of
 registration and blocked conn=
ections=2E=2E=2Eetc

 ThX!

------IRA63886OKT86OVU29BRS084MJMOG0-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 02 17:57:44 2021 Received: (at 48793) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 21:57:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loYrv-0001tZ-Uv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:57:44 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:53908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loYrt-0001tF-3x for 48793@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 17:57:41 -0400 Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FwNDb1fpDzDqCJ; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 14:57:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1622671055; bh=df/RtlQuNW1PC7/NZn/zNejSxgvkKNnakPR0UXJtaRQ=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=pK5qCDuV/qvW/uLq/RgdJamRIiK0eKbyj1gg3sAG3oGdH4pvz/f5/50tJUENVEu/e 0kmpxOVhszSfmyL0mdbuD/Svk+mfjncWf2pT+fZ7S0/h+GI8EdpSlNV6dqhtVWa9oI 6rFjSG8AdGLXFApeDQdiVJAl57DNZcETMEGvv2h0= X-Riseup-User-ID: 1964DE791497F17AAE5A7B9B7DA613C1CB6A6CD04918E2F64FF04C13C99FFBB2 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FwNDY2nnXz1y6h; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 14:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: Julien Lepiller , 48793@debbugs.gnu.org References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <430E6D63-7F7B-401C-B2F3-565CEA8AE037@lepiller.eu> <0162f70f-2b40-effa-ce24-ba20dbaa4678@riseup.net> <3A626254-C9B4-415A-ADA2-7D476B5FFFFE@lepiller.eu> From: bo0od Message-ID: <799fcf4a-fde4-a55e-4ebf-a6cc4d1728bb@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 21:57:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3A626254-C9B4-415A-ADA2-7D476B5FFFFE@lepiller.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48793 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Its official? i never saw it in the docs thought its not official one. bridge life could have been easier if guix irc migrated to OFTC, For libera still not yet done but work in progress: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/1324 Julien Lepiller: > I don't understand. There's #guix:matrix.org too, but it's not bridged to IRC. > > Le 2 juin 2021 17:46:19 GMT-04:00, bo0od a écrit : >> I dont believe this will make libera.chat accept Tor connection for >> registration or accessing their IRC rooms. >> >> guix should have matrix room within matrix (so as within IRC) not IRC >> room accessed by matrix client. >> >> >> >> Julien Lepiller: >>> Hi BoOod, >>> >>> You can use the bridge at #guix:libera.chat I think. >>> >>> Le 2 juin 2021 14:42:47 GMT-04:00, bo0od a écrit : >>>> Hi There, >>>> >>>> I saw that guix shifted from freenode to libera (due to freenode >>>> incident), Well it turns that libera just another freenode when it >>>> comes >>>> to Anti-Tor/Anti-Privacy: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/Libera-Chat/libera-chat.github.io/issues/63 >>>> >>>> Since Guix as well jumped under libera umbrella it has the same >> issue >>>> which no one can talk to guix irc room unless hes using clearnet IP >> or >>>> VPN ip then shift to Tor (long run to just talk about couple of >> issues >>>> with good privacy) >>>> >>>> As better alternative to whole IRC thing is to use Matrix and you >> can >>>> bridge the two rooms (matrix <-> IRC) with that no headache of >>>> registration and blocked connections...etc >>>> >>>> ThX! >>> > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 02 18:20:33 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 22:20:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41539 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loZE0-0002R4-Uq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 18:20:33 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54796) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loZDy-0002Qw-VF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 18:20:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37562) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loZDy-0002XQ-Og for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 18:20:30 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([2a02:c205:2020:6054::1]:48372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loZDw-0006Ge-KU for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 18:20:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tobias.gr; s=2018; bh=NfsJApLWvTeQIDfJjwqrzIo6vL5qsTWRgZckpth7JXk=; h=date:in-reply-to: subject:cc:to:from:references; b=JUlynIyLxxPXN51A679bWU+j49GvP7v7m8Cq+ Q/S3OPdifGHG/7jQwAT1Xfm4zxyoq4q/IYkYlNib874d+RiaoiKp0j8IlyJqtXUNlO9/wt hpLLcAwTUcojvan0hS5/7ZfAIZu6wcadR8K8Te4CofnGI0DDoVohWVkxCSNdWFjJcvKzNG Jb72tvmi1tkIZr/8IZRAs/oj1do6UFk0c8RT5kHL4XOKnNXeCpty9FHINM4oNwYphJCKlA W6kVYZ04bkl79hNcPRfaOtYce7o8foApO23i+cM9v2juLgkId/ja9lN1R9UFf5v2LHlqUZ bH/zM7FS3xRDCSIaPjvFqeFaw== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 908498e8 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 2 Jun 2021 22:20:05 +0000 (UTC) References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <87tumgm2h3.fsf@nckx> From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice To: bo0od Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix In-reply-to: BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default; Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 00:20:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87o8cnnc2y.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:c205:2020:6054::1; envelope-from=me@tobias.gr; helo=tobias.gr X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, 48793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bo0od =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > Im not sure im following, Does guix has its own room over matrix=20 > or > not? if yes what is it There's #guix:libera.chat that Julien already pointed out. It's a=20 bridge to the official #guix channel at Libera. Messages are sent=20 back & forth between Libera and matrix.org. I don't know if=20 matrix.org supports Tor. There's *also* #guix:matrix.org. It is a =E2=80=98real=E2=80=99 Matrix=20 channel/room, but it is not managed by the project and fewer core=20 contributors lurk there. > if not thats why i opened this ticket. It's not really a bug, though, is it? There's no official Guix=20 Mastodon either. Kind regards, T G-R --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYLgEFQ0cbWVAdG9iaWFz LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15FwUA/2Heey7VWpsF3Oll8rI3uZoHIBJUbi5Y1L70b+z7 Vx0KAQDonK72wDfNXT5A7SSyTzrD3cqki2b8MEEQRQltsn/jDQ== =RPtR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 03 12:04:14 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2021 16:04:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44596 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loppO-00027x-2g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 12:04:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loppN-00027p-Cl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 12:04:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loppN-00023H-5N for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 12:04:13 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:56774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loppJ-0001N3-DV for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 12:04:12 -0400 Received: by disroot.org (Postfix, from userid 107) id B0D995D507; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 18:25:44 +0200 (CEST) References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <430E6D63-7F7B-401C-B2F3-565CEA8AE037@lepiller.eu> <0162f70f-2b40-effa-ce24-ba20dbaa4678@riseup.net> <3A626254-C9B4-415A-ADA2-7D476B5FFFFE@lepiller.eu> <799fcf4a-fde4-a55e-4ebf-a6cc4d1728bb@riseup.net> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1622734605; bh=XqFoy7L5hG7QqVtu+76i3ptibuN9qsAKJzmdFrUEBRc=; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date; b=dGEoY38VVESOe/sDGwyQN7p8SmHPMCd2QCtwW5psChF50kvDPLJjn5r2cMU4jJiEK 2Tbno5ai8coAbLTQgPA7eEF7fz+kGNcyHFoqy+0OTi7/8FZLpRH9KvH/TYSUAIzMw5 JH9sSNMNfjaZ08dbLzQczVaA01LEKoYTtbz91AIP3rPvoalqpqw6X6yE7Vrb3F4sAY cfoGtQwdD3mj+iNfLJ8NaCM+WF0wgt5jFqJpA9FE5GH3tYgRXNpGeISE/Lub2gRR0R P6OZYaIc2F9fpdeXv2HNcgaXqz1eEn29Cm4XDL3lapLJGqAjGYqJcadhBBJ3H5YUD2 CDvxmb1ZX+iug== From: Bone Baboon To: bo0od Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix In-reply-to: <799fcf4a-fde4-a55e-4ebf-a6cc4d1728bb@riseup.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 11:34:53 -0400 Message-ID: <874kef9d2a.fsf@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139; envelope-from=bone.baboon@disroot.org; helo=knopi.disroot.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, Julien Lepiller , 48793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) bo0od writes: > if guix irc migrated to OFTC OFTC has a problematic registration process. In the registration process they encourage the use of Google captcha. Further there is no mention during the registration process of any alternative account registration options. The use of Google captcha is problematic because of freedom, privacy, ethical and philosophical reasons. There is a freedom problem because JavaScript has to be enabled and Google captcha is not free software. There is a privacy issue demonstrated by the Tor browser documentation's security settings section which says that JavaScript is disabled when the safest setting is used. Then there is an ethical issue of people doing free labor for Google. Then there is a philosophical issue if that free labor is used to train artificial intelligence (Google is working on artificial intelligence ) as this raises the issue of artificial intelligence safety. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 03 15:54:22 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2021 19:54:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44703 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lotQ5-0001ZA-Nt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:54:21 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39546) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lotQ4-0001Z3-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:54:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lotQ3-0002Nj-Ut for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:54:19 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:53640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lotQ0-00089c-Cc for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:54:19 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FwxRF5jf6zF2Jr; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 12:53:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1622750025; bh=TE1wjsWx4m85xBGctrCFFH6QNXIDNmk9EaUTse66OwU=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=YJMGS5rw6XUS9RoOmJkfrsAyHapDYvBLXuLU3A6QM6JGMEksj8PSKhdLyL6l35Cwc AAmcf2t4SJ3DO1gtErcH544HWmpQehXzHKMjTx7lOZ9iTfrEtDci9vx3AAxFN1QxYB TXqMdIaFvfb0gT4kN2N744XzvhYXGZXx6v3hlrnQ= X-Riseup-User-ID: D27D54D926917318A176901D88CE0568DFBBE5AF1F2480C39A2DBFA412DF6BE8 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FwxRC3mwXz5w5y; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 12:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: Bone Baboon References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <430E6D63-7F7B-401C-B2F3-565CEA8AE037@lepiller.eu> <0162f70f-2b40-effa-ce24-ba20dbaa4678@riseup.net> <3A626254-C9B4-415A-ADA2-7D476B5FFFFE@lepiller.eu> <799fcf4a-fde4-a55e-4ebf-a6cc4d1728bb@riseup.net> <874kef9d2a.fsf@disroot.org> From: bo0od Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 19:52:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <874kef9d2a.fsf@disroot.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=bo0od@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, Julien Lepiller , 48793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) > In the registration process they encourage the use of Google captcha. Thats true, but comparing google captcha which only need to allow JS while using Tor VS you cant even access or register unless you use real IP address = No question google captcha has less privacy impact in this scenario. OFTC was an example, Hackint and other IRC provider provide as well Tor access without even these boundaries. So whether changing the IRC server or having matrix room bridged to IRC both solve the problem. Bone Baboon: > bo0od writes: > >> if guix irc migrated to OFTC > > OFTC has a problematic registration process. > > In the registration process they encourage the use of Google captcha. > Further there is no mention during the registration process of any > alternative account registration options. > > The use of Google captcha is problematic because of freedom, privacy, > ethical and philosophical reasons. There is a freedom problem because > JavaScript has to be enabled and Google captcha is not free software. > There is a privacy issue demonstrated by the Tor browser documentation's > security settings section which says that JavaScript is disabled when > the safest setting is > used. Then there > is an ethical issue of people doing free labor for Google. Then there > is a philosophical issue if that free labor is used to train artificial > intelligence (Google is working on artificial intelligence > ) as this raises the issue of > artificial intelligence safety. > > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 03 15:55:15 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2021 19:55:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44710 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lotQx-0001az-B5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:55:15 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:41160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lotQv-0001ar-78 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:55:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35120) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lotQu-0003Ts-Sl for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:55:12 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:55252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lotQt-0000MF-2w for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:55:12 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fwx840rHPzDxbr; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1622749236; bh=xD0HHX5aANLRsqb8X2/u0xbyed0c6p03msWJHD2Pn6s=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=XWFczc85/m4+FaVB+S6vhKXyd2KhbAuATQOWnr7FlYPiv85yz71KTSG+ukPyrBoYA 8ewXOU2T6fdwEWibd2jORRB2T9X1xxE0ZySAg96KU48nfNaZ/6DJw0mRIldQDgfcMl qOXP1C9ub0bcHYy0+yD1HQN8XQ51a/TozsMD9F5w= X-Riseup-User-ID: 780A159B5152EEC1CC6876EF74CF713D6F4790B9D42E7842DBA6E04D77B0C981 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Fwx7p2dSRz5vS1; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 12:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <87tumgm2h3.fsf@nckx> <87o8cnnc2y.fsf@nckx> From: bo0od Message-ID: <84c3cd22-011f-2e55-8426-5551b6a9fcb6@riseup.net> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 19:39:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87o8cnnc2y.fsf@nckx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=bo0od@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, 48793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) It does support Tor but currently matrix not yet fully support libera. > There's *also* #guix:matrix.org. It is a ‘real’ Matrix channel/room, > but it is not managed by the project and fewer core contributors lurk > there. Yeah thats the bad part of it which need to get bridged to the official room in libera. > It's not really a bug, though, is it? There's no official Guix Mastodon > either. Bug in a way that guix doesnt provide or support privacy entrance to their chat, Guix lack it due to their choice of libera IRC server. Thats why i opened this ticket in the hope to have better future for direct chatting and try to see how we can fix this situation. Tobias Geerinckx-Rice: > bo0od 写道： >> Im not sure im following, Does guix has its own room over matrix or >> not? if yes what is it > > There's #guix:libera.chat that Julien already pointed out.  It's a > bridge to the official #guix channel at Libera.  Messages are sent back > & forth between Libera and matrix.org.  I don't know if matrix.org > supports Tor. > > There's *also* #guix:matrix.org.  It is a ‘real’ Matrix channel/room, > but it is not managed by the project and fewer core contributors lurk > there. > >> if not thats why i opened this ticket. > > It's not really a bug, though, is it?  There's no official Guix Mastodon > either. > > Kind regards, > > T G-R From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 03 17:18:53 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2021 21:18:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44880 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loujs-0005zb-QF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 17:18:53 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49296) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loujr-0005zU-JL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 17:18:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54482) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loujr-0001I3-Da for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 17:18:51 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:37772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loujo-00026f-Uc for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 17:18:51 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8f7427fc; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 21:18:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:cc:from:message-id; s= dkim; bh=P2A5Oj1+VXWZS1338//JRFPkZW8KyWA3kgIuZOjuC9w=; b=Vw58qqG A7oPGOGrYaC/SCLazeQvWNRK1An7rH09OjKaVUl/PYpYUP9aytFTnorvR6Sp+0PM KT+EPMITmtfT/qU4rHSw9kkr0ESobXixg/ZiINinbdyLWzysOPbeewXRcpXjx8mI x/qplP+OZ0TS6miSSEYpbSjPvZPL6o5oy60PPkfMg3YwtnZvyqQOp34IxfsLlawo vGFLAivGK8sW671ScGyErKav3tyq2RBVuy43b45qPjNf4Z+R+h9J9p7GYQw/eJuU XQauc9MdTJ4AQcs8xsRtHhPYahc60HTkygdcok2bimOd9WedhTCLUOnYLE2JebYh rND9sod+DxccoLw== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id d1563021 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 3 Jun 2021 21:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 17:18:34 -0400 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <84c3cd22-011f-2e55-8426-5551b6a9fcb6@riseup.net> References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <87tumgm2h3.fsf@nckx> <87o8cnnc2y.fsf@nckx> <84c3cd22-011f-2e55-8426-5551b6a9fcb6@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: bug-guix@gnu.org, bo0od , Tobias Geerinckx-Rice From: Julien Lepiller Message-ID: <0133A868-0DA9-474F-B1FC-D26556005236@lepiller.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.234.186.109; envelope-from=julien@lepiller.eu; helo=lepiller.eu X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 48793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Le 3 juin 2021 15:39:34 GMT-04:00, bo0od a =C3=A9crit= : >It does support Tor but currently matrix not yet fully support libera=2E > >> There's *also* #guix:matrix=2Eorg=2E It is a =E2=80=98real=E2=80=99 Ma= trix channel/room, >> but it is not managed by the project and fewer core contributors lurk > > there=2E > >Yeah thats the bad part of it which need to get bridged to the official > >room in libera=2E Again, I don't understand why #guix:libera=2Echat is bad=2E I joined it wi= th my matrix account from a different home server=2E Why can't you? > >> It's not really a bug, though, is it? There's no official Guix >Mastodon > > either=2E > >Bug in a way that guix doesnt provide or support privacy entrance to=20 >their chat, Guix lack it due to their choice of libera IRC server=2E >Thats=20 >why i opened this ticket in the hope to have better future for direct=20 >chatting and try to see how we can fix this situation=2E > >Tobias Geerinckx-Rice: >> bo0od =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >>> Im not sure im following, Does guix has its own room over matrix or >>> not? if yes what is it >>=20 >> There's #guix:libera=2Echat that Julien already pointed out=2E=C2=A0 It= 's a=20 >> bridge to the official #guix channel at Libera=2E=C2=A0 Messages are se= nt >back=20 >> & forth between Libera and matrix=2Eorg=2E=C2=A0 I don't know if matrix= =2Eorg=20 >> supports Tor=2E >>=20 >> There's *also* #guix:matrix=2Eorg=2E=C2=A0 It is a =E2=80=98real=E2=80= =99 Matrix channel/room, > >> but it is not managed by the project and fewer core contributors lurk > >> there=2E >>=20 >>> if not thats why i opened this ticket=2E >>=20 >> It's not really a bug, though, is it?=C2=A0 There's no official Guix >Mastodon=20 >> either=2E >>=20 >> Kind regards, >>=20 >> T G-R From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 07 18:35:38 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jun 2021 22:35:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56839 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lqNqM-0005Ha-E4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:35:38 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37272) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lqNqL-0005HT-0G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:35:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58124) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqNqK-0005oi-P9 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:35:36 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:54658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqNqI-0001dK-Nx for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:35:36 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FzSqy411HzDqCP; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 15:35:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1623105327; bh=+6gzFw3OZ1ysZtCLq52rl528LNPBHqs3D51oGGASHHQ=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=opbFz5YmxfR9uPsKLoS0vPAYpd87QfOeCL6nuSCEft528t5T3y9Cz913cnSmNjqUI TO0CjDVQYq4xEAh7GhGDaCquufnmfaKYpqWDhnPNgsrYx6Xt26qKOdB453BVs5cztC XVcOS+oO9TPz+xWcs5+2BeDsMkUH9j0hXILSx31w= X-Riseup-User-ID: 1B260B1BFBFC049A49B1E919A0D02E4D631ED76222DE3133024BA8A81AC561DE Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FzSqw0MJ3z5vbR; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#48793: Make guix room available over matrix To: Julien Lepiller , bug-guix@gnu.org, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice References: <97fdc236-5dd2-00e8-9b30-3100ce7ff3dd@riseup.net> <87tumgm2h3.fsf@nckx> <87o8cnnc2y.fsf@nckx> <84c3cd22-011f-2e55-8426-5551b6a9fcb6@riseup.net> <0133A868-0DA9-474F-B1FC-D26556005236@lepiller.eu> From: bo0od Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0133A868-0DA9-474F-B1FC-D26556005236@lepiller.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=bo0od@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 48793-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 48793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) > Again, I don't understand why #guix:libera.chat is bad. I joined it with my matrix account from a different home server. Why can't you? There was a bug within matrix bridge to libera.chat (you can check guix channel logs when it got fixed) Now this issue is resolved :) Julien Lepiller: > > > Le 3 juin 2021 15:39:34 GMT-04:00, bo0od a écrit : >> It does support Tor but currently matrix not yet fully support libera. >> >>> There's *also* #guix:matrix.org. It is a ‘real’ Matrix channel/room, >>> but it is not managed by the project and fewer core contributors lurk >>> there. >> >> Yeah thats the bad part of it which need to get bridged to the official >> >> room in libera. > > Again, I don't understand why #guix:libera.chat is bad. I joined it with my matrix account from a different home server. Why can't you? > >> >>> It's not really a bug, though, is it? There's no official Guix >> Mastodon >>> either. >> >> Bug in a way that guix doesnt provide or support privacy entrance to >> their chat, Guix lack it due to their choice of libera IRC server. >> Thats >> why i opened this ticket in the hope to have better future for direct >> chatting and try to see how we can fix this situation. >> >> Tobias Geerinckx-Rice: >>> bo0od 写道： >>>> Im not sure im following, Does guix has its own room over matrix or >>>> not? if yes what is it >>> >>> There's #guix:libera.chat that Julien already pointed out.  It's a >>> bridge to the official #guix channel at Libera.  Messages are sent >> back >>> & forth between Libera and matrix.org.  I don't know if matrix.org >>> supports Tor. >>> >>> There's *also* #guix:matrix.org.  It is a ‘real’ Matrix channel/room, >> >>> but it is not managed by the project and fewer core contributors lurk >> >>> there. >>> >>>> if not thats why i opened this ticket. >>> >>> It's not really a bug, though, is it?  There's no official Guix >> Mastodon >>> either. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> T G-R From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:30 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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