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([2a00:f41:cea:7059:969:b1c7:ee9e:ccb3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g21sm10774642edb.92.2021.05.25.08.24.47 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 25 May 2021 08:24:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Bug GNU Emacs From: Sebastian Urban Subject: Overfull hbox, Unicode code points style (display.texi) Message-ID: <1b291257-516b-e751-1a7b-79823964ad16@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 17:24:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------386445F45D279F2D3EC329FC" Content-Language: en-GB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::635; envelope-from=mrsebastianurban@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x635.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------386445F45D279F2D3EC329FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Changes are in the attached DIFF file (DISPLAY.DIFF). As for the "overfull hbox", in the end I decided to simply add a discretionary hyphen (@-) after 2nd hyphen (when I added it after every hyphen, the line was broken after 2nd hyphen). Alternatively, someone will have to rearrange the sentence. As for Unicode code points it was decided to use "U+NNNN @sc{char name}", so I adjusted all of them. Additionally, I changed, in the last paragraph of "Visual Line Mode" section, typesetting of the category char to use @samp{} instead of ``...''. Finally, in a different file - FIXIT.TEXI - there is line 356, where the word "dictionary" uses a discretionary hyphens - are they used somewhere? Because, in the PDF there is no line breaking for this sentence and if it's correct, perhaps adding this word to DOCSTYLE.TEXI would be a better option. -- S. 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<1b291257-516b-e751-1a7b-79823964ad16@gmail.com> (message from Sebastian Urban on Tue, 25 May 2021 17:24:44 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#48654: Overfull hbox, Unicode code points style (display.texi) References: <1b291257-516b-e751-1a7b-79823964ad16@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48654 Cc: 48654@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sebastian Urban > Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 17:24:44 +0200 > > Changes are in the attached DIFF file (DISPLAY.DIFF). > > As for the "overfull hbox", in the end I decided to simply add a > discretionary hyphen (@-) after 2nd hyphen (when I added it after > every hyphen, the line was broken after 2nd hyphen). Alternatively, > someone will have to rearrange the sentence. > > As for Unicode code points it was decided to use "U+NNNN @sc{char > name}", so I adjusted all of them. Please use the exact names of the characters as they appear in the UnicodeData.txt file. Also, why remove @code{..} from the "U+NNNN" notation -- what does that solve? > Finally, in a different file - FIXIT.TEXI - there is line 356, where > the word "dictionary" uses a discretionary hyphens - are they used > somewhere? Because, in the PDF there is no line breaking for this > sentence and if it's correct, perhaps adding this word to > DOCSTYLE.TEXI would be a better option. It depends on surrounding text: if the word gets close to a line break, we want it to break correctly. 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([2a00:f41:c9a:ed08:c060:5b36:fec1:c5c6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j7sm1908580edr.79.2021.05.26.00.37.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 26 May 2021 00:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#48654: Overfull hbox, Unicode code points style (display.texi) To: Eli Zaretskii References: <1b291257-516b-e751-1a7b-79823964ad16@gmail.com> <83lf82bufx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: <5db3ff2d-1c26-35cb-084a-0ef3d48928a6@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 09:37:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83lf82bufx.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48654 Cc: 48654@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> As for Unicode code points it was decided to use "U+NNNN @sc{char >> name}", so I adjusted all of them. > > Please use the exact names of the characters as they appear in the > UnicodeData.txt file. Hmmm... which one is incorrect? > Also, why remove @code{..} from the "U+NNNN" notation -- what does > that solve? Because, ~2 years ago you decided to follow Unicode docs notation, and I'm just fixing the leftovers. See your commit: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=f68b33f50299339a36da29cd1913d19fd5f288e0 >> Finally, in a different file - FIXIT.TEXI - there is line 356, >> where the word "dictionary" uses a discretionary hyphens - are they >> used somewhere? Because, in the PDF there is no line breaking for >> this sentence and if it's correct, perhaps adding this word to >> DOCSTYLE.TEXI would be a better option. > > It depends on surrounding text: if the word gets close to a line > break, we want it to break correctly. I don't know if it's a good idea to keep this just in case someone changes the text in the future, or makes PDF using A5 page format. Currently (official PDF), it's not close to a line break. But if it stays, I suggest moving it to DOCSTYLE.TEXI, where other problematic words are gathered below this line: @c It turns out TeX sometimes fails to hyphenate, so we help it here @hyphenation{...} From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 26 08:38:25 2021 Received: (at 48654) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 May 2021 12:38:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47832 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1llsno-0002ty-Sw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2021 08:38:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47024) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1llsnn-0002tj-8P for 48654@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2021 08:38:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60916) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llsni-00067s-1x; Wed, 26 May 2021 08:38:18 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2633 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llsnh-00041f-Ie; Wed, 26 May 2021 08:38:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 15:38:19 +0300 Message-Id: <83wnrlacw4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Sebastian Urban In-Reply-To: <5db3ff2d-1c26-35cb-084a-0ef3d48928a6@gmail.com> (message from Sebastian Urban on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:37:37 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#48654: Overfull hbox, Unicode code points style (display.texi) References: <1b291257-516b-e751-1a7b-79823964ad16@gmail.com> <83lf82bufx.fsf@gnu.org> <5db3ff2d-1c26-35cb-084a-0ef3d48928a6@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48654 Cc: 48654@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 48654@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Sebastian Urban > Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 09:37:37 +0200 > > >> As for Unicode code points it was decided to use "U+NNNN @sc{char > >> name}", so I adjusted all of them. > > > > Please use the exact names of the characters as they appear in the > > UnicodeData.txt file. > > Hmmm... which one is incorrect? I didn't say there were any, but I saw you were changing the names, and wanted to make sure you take the names from the official source. > > Also, why remove @code{..} from the "U+NNNN" notation -- what does > > that solve? > > Because, ~2 years ago you decided to follow Unicode docs notation, and > I'm just fixing the leftovers. See your commit: > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=f68b33f50299339a36da29cd1913d19fd5f288e0 OK, that just emphasizes the importance of providing the commit log message with reasoning when you propose a patch, TIA. > >> Finally, in a different file - FIXIT.TEXI - there is line 356, > >> where the word "dictionary" uses a discretionary hyphens - are they > >> used somewhere? Because, in the PDF there is no line breaking for > >> this sentence and if it's correct, perhaps adding this word to > >> DOCSTYLE.TEXI would be a better option. > > > > It depends on surrounding text: if the word gets close to a line > > break, we want it to break correctly. > > I don't know if it's a good idea to keep this just in case someone > changes the text in the future, or makes PDF using A5 page format. > Currently (official PDF), it's not close to a line break. What's the harm? > But if it stays, I suggest moving it to DOCSTYLE.TEXI, where other > problematic words are gathered below this line: > @c It turns out TeX sometimes fails to hyphenate, so we help it here > @hyphenation{...} Fine with me. 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([2a00:f41:c1b:5fbb:8d8f:bbe8:c991:2dd6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c20sm46539ejx.18.2021.05.26.12.00.49 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 26 May 2021 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Urban Subject: Re: bug#48654: Overfull hbox, Unicode code points style (display.texi) To: Eli Zaretskii References: <1b291257-516b-e751-1a7b-79823964ad16@gmail.com> <83lf82bufx.fsf@gnu.org> <5db3ff2d-1c26-35cb-084a-0ef3d48928a6@gmail.com> <83wnrlacw4.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 21:00:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83wnrlacw4.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48654 Cc: 48654@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> Please use the exact names of the characters as they appear in the >>> UnicodeData.txt file. >> Hmmm... which one is incorrect? > I didn't say there were any, but I saw you were changing the names, > and wanted to make sure you take the names from the official source. I only changed one name, but all are correct, according to the UnicodeData.txt and 'describe-char'. >>> Also, why remove @code{..} from the "U+NNNN" notation -- what does >>> that solve? >> Because, ~2 years ago you decided to follow Unicode docs notation, >> and I'm just fixing the leftovers. See your commit: >> (...)/emacs.git/commit/?id=f68b33f50299339a36da29cd1913d19fd5f288e0 > OK, that just emphasizes the importance of providing the commit log > message with reasoning when you propose a patch, TIA. There were various styles of Unicode code points and character names across Emacs manual ~2 years ago. It was decided to follow Unicode notation, so I'm following it. Then, the reason is... consistency? Perhaps you could use the same messages: Fix styling of Unicode codepoints in manuals OR Canonicalize the style of "U+NNNN CHARACTER NAME". >> I don't know if it's a good idea to keep this just in case someone >> changes the text in the future, or makes PDF using A5 page format. >> Currently (official PDF), it's not close to a line break. > What's the harm? None? But... >> (...) if it stays, I suggest moving it to DOCSTYLE.TEXI, (...) > Fine with me. ...since you agreed with moving it to DOCSTYLE.TEXI, let it be the solution. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 29 04:24:11 2021 Received: (at 48654) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2021 08:24:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55957 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lmuGR-0006o3-K2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 May 2021 04:24:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34792) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lmuGQ-0006np-8o for 48654@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 May 2021 04:24:10 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38744) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lmuGL-0002l2-3A; Sat, 29 May 2021 04:24:05 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4656 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lmuGK-0002o0-MC; Sat, 29 May 2021 04:24:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 11:24:14 +0300 Message-Id: <834kem6j81.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Sebastian Urban In-Reply-To: (message from Sebastian Urban on Wed, 26 May 2021 21:00:47 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#48654: Overfull hbox, Unicode code points style (display.texi) References: <1b291257-516b-e751-1a7b-79823964ad16@gmail.com> <83lf82bufx.fsf@gnu.org> <5db3ff2d-1c26-35cb-084a-0ef3d48928a6@gmail.com> <83wnrlacw4.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48654 Cc: 48654@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sebastian Urban > Cc: 48654@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 21:00:47 +0200 > > >>> Also, why remove @code{..} from the "U+NNNN" notation -- what does > >>> that solve? > >> Because, ~2 years ago you decided to follow Unicode docs notation, > >> and I'm just fixing the leftovers. See your commit: > >> (...)/emacs.git/commit/?id=f68b33f50299339a36da29cd1913d19fd5f288e0 > > OK, that just emphasizes the importance of providing the commit log > > message with reasoning when you propose a patch, TIA. > > There were various styles of Unicode code points and character names > across Emacs manual ~2 years ago. It was decided to follow Unicode > notation, so I'm following it. Then, the reason is... consistency? > > Perhaps you could use the same messages: > Fix styling of Unicode codepoints in manuals > OR > Canonicalize the style of "U+NNNN CHARACTER NAME". > > >> I don't know if it's a good idea to keep this just in case someone > >> changes the text in the future, or makes PDF using A5 page format. > >> Currently (official PDF), it's not close to a line break. > > What's the harm? > > None? But... > > >> (...) if it stays, I suggest moving it to DOCSTYLE.TEXI, (...) > > Fine with me. > > ...since you agreed with moving it to DOCSTYLE.TEXI, let it be the > solution. Thanks, could you please post an updated patch with all of the above taken care of? 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Thanks, installed. Btw, I think with this contribution you have all but exhausted the limit of changes we can accept without copyright assignment, so would you like to start your legal paperwork now, to allow us to accept further contributions from you? 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[89.161.0.241]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fn3sm6432540ejc.96.2021.06.07.06.17.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Jun 2021 06:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#48654: Overfull hbox, Unicode code points style (display.texi) To: Eli Zaretskii References: <1b291257-516b-e751-1a7b-79823964ad16@gmail.com> <83lf82bufx.fsf@gnu.org> <5db3ff2d-1c26-35cb-084a-0ef3d48928a6@gmail.com> <83wnrlacw4.fsf@gnu.org> <834kem6j81.fsf@gnu.org> <83im2ria7o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 15:17:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83im2ria7o.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48654 Cc: 48654@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Btw, I think with this contribution you have all but exhausted the > limit of changes we can accept without copyright assignment, so > would you like to start your legal paperwork now, to allow us to > accept further contributions from you? I thought these changes need to be more non-trivial, then those I made. As for copyright assignment, is it one of those where I have to write my postal address, right? And there is no way to avoid that? Because I have no patches waiting to be sent for now (like, anytime soon), I think, I'll skip the copyright thing. I'll come back to this, when it'll be needed. From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:24:40 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2021 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator