From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 17 23:54:27 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2021 03:54:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54231 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1liqoM-0005EC-Re for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 23:54:27 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1liqoJ-0005E2-O4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 23:54:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52480) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1liqoJ-0004dZ-FT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 23:54:23 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:64955 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1liqoH-0007d7-7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 23:54:22 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:280f:7c8f:f685:2e44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Fkhtw2hBVz3pf7L for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 20:53:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 20:53:41 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com Received-SPF: pass client-ip=50.0.39.240; envelope-from=alex@bochannek.com; helo=mail.lapseofthought.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain AngeFTP cannot parse the output of the GNU inetutils FTP client on macOS 10.14. It errors out with "FTP Error: OPEN request failed:" and the process buffer shows the following: ftp> open ftp.tcl.tk open ftp.tcl.tk cd / cd / cd / cd / cd / cd / cd / cd / cd / cd / cd / cd / Connected to ftp.tcl.tk. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection ftp> Not connected. ftp> Not connected. ftp> Not connected. ftp> Not connected. ftp> Not connected. ftp> Not connected. ftp> This appears to be caused by readline being enabled for ftp and is resolved when disabling it. NetBSD/FreeBSD specifically mentions this in its ftp(1) for tnftp: -e Disables command line editing. This is useful for Emacs ange-ftp mode. Netkit-ftp on Linux does not exhibit this problem even with readline enabled; I could not test GNU inetutils on Linux. I tested tnftp on macOS and it also did not exhibit this problem even with readline enabled. Tested versions: ftp (GNU inetutils) 2.0 macOS 10.14.6 tnftp-20200705 macOS 10.14.6 netkit-ftp 0.17-34.1 Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS There is no -e option for Windows FTP and ftp will terminate when receiving an unknown option (tested version Windows 10.0.19042.928) There is no -e option in Solaris FTP and I cannot test how it responds to an unknown option. I am proposing the below patch which resolves the problem on macOS with GNU inetutils and does no harm for Netkit-ftp/lukemftp/tnftp. However, because of the way a Windows client would respond, I am open to different approaches including considering this an inetutils bug instead. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline diff --git a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el index 04ea809127..1742c68c38 100644 --- a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el +++ b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el @@ -948,7 +948,7 @@ ange-ftp-gateway-ftp-program-name :group 'ange-ftp :type 'string) -(defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") +(defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v" "-e") "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started." :group 'ange-ftp :type '(repeat string)) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G9028)) of 2021-05-17 built on awb-mbp.local Repository revision: d83db639d379df142482bf82d7eb020d2ec1ae73 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1671 System Description: Mac OS X 10.14.6 -- Alex. --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 18 07:52:57 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2021 11:52:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54588 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1liyHR-00055B-IG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 07:52:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45338) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1liyHQ-00054y-00 for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 07:52:56 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60520) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1liyHK-0002ib-9u; Tue, 18 May 2021 07:52:50 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4639 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1liyHJ-0005lB-Rh; Tue, 18 May 2021 07:52:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:52:56 +0300 Message-Id: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Alex Bochannek In-Reply-To: (message from Alex Bochannek on Mon, 17 May 2021 20:53:41 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Alex Bochannek > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 20:53:41 -0700 > > There is no -e option for Windows FTP and ftp will terminate when > receiving an unknown option (tested version Windows 10.0.19042.928) > > There is no -e option in Solaris FTP and I cannot test how it responds > to an unknown option. > > I am proposing the below patch which resolves the problem on macOS with > GNU inetutils and does no harm for Netkit-ftp/lukemftp/tnftp. > > However, because of the way a Windows client would respond, I am open to > different approaches including considering this an inetutils bug > instead. How about making the default value depend on the value of system-type? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 18 13:50:48 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2021 17:50:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lj3rk-0000YV-HR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 13:50:48 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:36544 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lj3ri-0000YM-1s for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 13:50:47 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:f08d:db80:a546:a67a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Fl3Sg4qKvz3pdpJ; Tue, 18 May 2021 10:50:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 10:50:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 May 2021 14:52:56 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Alex Bochannek >> Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 20:53:41 -0700 >> >> There is no -e option for Windows FTP and ftp will terminate when >> receiving an unknown option (tested version Windows 10.0.19042.928) >> >> There is no -e option in Solaris FTP and I cannot test how it responds >> to an unknown option. >> >> I am proposing the below patch which resolves the problem on macOS with >> GNU inetutils and does no harm for Netkit-ftp/lukemftp/tnftp. >> >> However, because of the way a Windows client would respond, I am open to >> different approaches including considering this an inetutils bug >> instead. > > How about making the default value depend on the value of system-type? You mean something like this? --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline diff --git a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el index 04ea809127..61a0f09f43 100644 --- a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el +++ b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el @@ -947,8 +947,13 @@ ange-ftp-gateway-ftp-program-name Some AT&T folks claim to use something called `pftp' here." :group 'ange-ftp :type 'string) +(defcustom imap-read-timeout (if (memq system-type '(windows-nt cygwin)) + 1.0 + 0.1) -(defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") +(defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args (if (eq system-type 'darwin) + '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v" "-e") ; for GNU inetutils + '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v")) "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started." :group 'ange-ftp :type '(repeat string)) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain The more I think about it, the more I am leaning against changing the default. I don't fully understand what inetutils ftp is doing and why -e is needed. Maybe submitting a bug against inetutils is the right approach here? As an aside (and why a system-type switch may be needed anyway), it looks to me that -v means the exact opposite thing on Windows than what is expected: BSD/Netkit/Inetutils/Solaris/HP-UX/AIX all specify that -v is verbose and that it's the default for interactive sessions. tnftp has a -V option that turns off verbose mode. Inetutils has a -V for --version. Windows however does this: -v Suppresses display of remote server responses. (Verified on Windows 10.0.19042.928) It seems to me that -v should be removed for Windows and likely can be removed for all systems. I haven't used Cygwin in a while, but I suspect AngeFTP can use either the Windows or the Inetutils FTP. Are there any automated cross-platform tests to see on which platform removing -v might break AngeFTP? -- Alex. --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 18 14:19:27 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2021 18:19:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57260 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lj4JT-0001Ii-13 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 14:19:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51754) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lj4JP-0001IT-Ir for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 14:19:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46586) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lj4JJ-0006de-Kf; Tue, 18 May 2021 14:19:17 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1546 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lj4JF-0003jQ-Fp; Tue, 18 May 2021 14:19:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 21:18:59 +0300 Message-Id: <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Alex Bochannek , Michael Albinus In-Reply-To: (message from Alex Bochannek on Tue, 18 May 2021 10:50:25 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Alex Bochannek > Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 10:50:25 -0700 > > > How about making the default value depend on the value of system-type? > > You mean something like this? Yes. > The more I think about it, the more I am leaning against changing the > default. I don't fully understand what inetutils ftp is doing and why -e > is needed. Maybe submitting a bug against inetutils is the right > approach here? Could be. > Are there any automated cross-platform tests to see on which platform > removing -v might break AngeFTP? I don't know. maybe Michael (CC'ed) does. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 18 21:34:32 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2021 01:34:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57627 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljB6W-0003WJ-08 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 21:34:32 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:36007 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljB6S-0003WA-Uy for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 21:34:30 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:fdd6:a0fd:9d85:9511]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FlFlk1vSvz3pkS8; Tue, 18 May 2021 18:34:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:34:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 May 2021 21:18:59 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Albinus X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Alex Bochannek >> Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 10:50:25 -0700 >> >> > How about making the default value depend on the value of system-type? >> >> You mean something like this? > > Yes. > >> The more I think about it, the more I am leaning against changing the >> default. I don't fully understand what inetutils ftp is doing and why -e >> is needed. Maybe submitting a bug against inetutils is the right >> approach here? > > Could be. I am sending in a report to bug-inetutils@gnu.org and see if they can offer some insight. >> Are there any automated cross-platform tests to see on which platform >> removing -v might break AngeFTP? > > I don't know. maybe Michael (CC'ed) does. I take back my comment about Windows and -v. On the command line (cmd.exe), it absolutely does behave as the documentation indicated, but I just tried out AngeFTP under Windows 7 (Version 6.1.7601) and it only works with -v. Maybe Michael can explain what is going on there? -- Alex. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 20 09:02:59 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2021 13:02:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljiKJ-0007Ew-5i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 09:02:59 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:44931) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljiKH-0007Eg-KQ for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 09:02:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1621515765; bh=c4KPcJR841vcKVJLLx6G5MC+N/CLovPvFfC3fYj5CPE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=fRJjz6854Up7ThVLjBKZROESCbpBmCPE5JbHGY+Sc4B8+3GdTf+aZJhwouHFm3s53 GP23etCP66y8TsaZWAuadecJDtoG4STNkqp5HGKmUrrtEa4uRQTzqfe495N04YzTN8 +tk7iOC2hQd9Sy7G16dHW26YGTaPiprBqXkz1pTw= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([79.140.119.224]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N0oFz-1lVjdY00Fp-00wjlC; Thu, 20 May 2021 15:02:45 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Alex Bochannek Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 15:02:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alex Bochannek's message of "Tue, 18 May 2021 18:34:25 -0700") Message-ID: <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1tFAzHVYx22dZhtqazXzeocfD2eM6TCtvVbP63iVVpRoAe4QVcY cLIk0mcmFqmid7zC9qXAHC1+kUTSj6ZRpFNIz7fRAfta+3rdncTb6Z8ODSsK4eKAUwNuFpf 3w/K5ve2Ol3Iz5gN8PS4d/VKLq0/nXuwgzKNwJ9Nkv3gxLB9klArl3IMz+W7bk3qEVbb0oP fVvzCxh45VZWB9kKMo6RA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:bCJGM24s0RA=:cLvGhEOw2s6Q49slv45+mK MBQmdsLhLjzqSfOifMz8lp6R8jnB7nOahRzwsogvAT85h++LmL1z0Yyfoh3iqMoZ4KsfYEHP+ +Ru+bzuX1pLyOnqtBz8s4/L4Kay32ohzfYUU5CtRrvLpEK9ByOMcn6TzptPEMYlaxJn8SO3Qs D0aiMo/tiAPpDbzMTs8GIuQMGR1jKuSuIqGgcGReteQ4kWGq1z+382KZi4pVM97RSAsW9zvTk 4rXXyCKdXkhY9PmLlWVmZkFD8vDhy3J1VR/xpo5cDvkR13FyPeVtckG8H7Oq3EhbsifcwNlat geP4BA2B+j3177UlmgUsge11zPMcxLuSBcBw+Tn3qjhXtuGrP6OiUpf0h+Zl8XnPwPwEWrHui th4zPUwsMZapfQM5EJtPOZC03lUO1XbI+0jke5rTAcqu3BxHGR3WHV1aOZycbRfC8V+GcLkvp 1YOBRIxrAUZ7jPW/9EHrls568pUjbjsUjMFKhmA5uMeMFtji5e+rir9p3hJcLStrssb6V+m2I 263YCpICNFkY42V37VKd2aeruvnyRgL9vTnSw8UlC95qdjOJwJQdkrUny8YWz9dbYoZKyWHTd t7CNwxxlqKza5U1uWdyiDR1j7Mw9sbw8tF1iqYj2Qi5N379e+98/Sgq2uIy9iyZF3K73qjy3w rignY82RG5oUNWEU8pPYOqRMldbSCg7EQtJSQGcZtuTPBeByHucfeFcvACLZp3aDGywmhR8Tt 9TkMOmBBalW8GdvmszRZ7BjIyHcm1mJjwH7z4tcBryYxy9cCFbRXUgysSIncypfHPaaJ+z/jf DhHKNokloBH+AUJKngfBpPZsNChRrbXvk36ZP7na2IyLrkdeYO85V3kdzZrO4UgovY6Q9xGxV h8/S/m4rj4GJOoLUKzP+BiHcFVmfPYgihH+f8wlazbvdzae2Otq818zFYTDlxZJLlwE5DSbh4 cbL8a4GcPROn5bvKIxJAwVrKDJBTBRX3jvuLJPmLdkxgafESF4SFKMyu8l+Ccu6nedxqanFhZ dFcbaMsC+c8FNjoAMHyhWB3rbSP6GaQQXvz4zfFycIH4wnlletCve/gP5Nc93q4Dge876o9aS DHJu2ShVcOZrz857uJbr9mIcSLstp+qXLyZBi5gdLWvBXOUTCFM0+v5dsPEte61OgJ0lVnTL9 21UXnFBUOS7loeY/V2tLjcWc1q1b3LNw5+sRdlwn1HZpv6yUU8yDB2MlKymWEtJ605sr3/Epw GywcTtJpRgHca3va1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Alex Bochannek writes: >>> > How about making the default value depend on the value of system-typ= e? >>> >>> You mean something like this? >> >> Yes. >> >>> The more I think about it, the more I am leaning against changing the >>> default. I don't fully understand what inetutils ftp is doing and why = -e >>> is needed. Maybe submitting a bug against inetutils is the right >>> approach here? >> >> Could be. > > I am sending in a report to bug-inetutils@gnu.org and see if they can > offer some insight. > >>> Are there any automated cross-platform tests to see on which platform >>> removing -v might break AngeFTP? >> >> I don't know. maybe Michael (CC'ed) does. > > I take back my comment about Windows and -v. On the command line > (cmd.exe), it absolutely does behave as the documentation indicated, but > I just tried out AngeFTP under Windows 7 (Version 6.1.7601) and it only > works with -v. Maybe Michael can explain what is going on there? Well, I'm not an expert in ftp, and especially, I'm not an expert in ftp client command line arguments. While I agree that adding the "-e" option to the ftp call in ange-ftp.el sounds reasonable, I have no idea what would be broken with some clients. A check for system-type is not sufficient, for every system there are different ftp clients, which could behave different. If we want to add a check for command argument availability, we would need to fire a test call, and to analyze, whether given command arguments are supported. We should take into consideration, that the default value for ange-ftp-ftp-program-args hasn't been changed for at least 21 years. We should also take into consideration, that ftp is being phased out in browsers like Chrome and Firefox; its importance is decreasing. So I propose to not change anything, and let users customize ange-ftp-ftp-program-args to their needs. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 20 13:49:31 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2021 17:49:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35166 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljmna-0002uZ-Pv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 13:49:31 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:61536 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljmnW-0002uO-DA for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 13:49:30 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:f9b8:daee:26db:e874]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FmHLD04JBz3pk9P; Thu, 20 May 2021 10:49:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 10:49:23 -0700 In-Reply-To: <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 20 May 2021 15:02:43 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Alex Bochannek writes: > >>>> > How about making the default value depend on the value of system-type? >>>> >>>> You mean something like this? >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>>> The more I think about it, the more I am leaning against changing the >>>> default. I don't fully understand what inetutils ftp is doing and why -e >>>> is needed. Maybe submitting a bug against inetutils is the right >>>> approach here? >>> >>> Could be. >> >> I am sending in a report to bug-inetutils@gnu.org and see if they can >> offer some insight. >> >>>> Are there any automated cross-platform tests to see on which platform >>>> removing -v might break AngeFTP? >>> >>> I don't know. maybe Michael (CC'ed) does. >> >> I take back my comment about Windows and -v. On the command line >> (cmd.exe), it absolutely does behave as the documentation indicated, but >> I just tried out AngeFTP under Windows 7 (Version 6.1.7601) and it only >> works with -v. Maybe Michael can explain what is going on there? > > Well, I'm not an expert in ftp, and especially, I'm not an expert in ftp > client command line arguments. While I agree that adding the "-e" option > to the ftp call in ange-ftp.el sounds reasonable, I have no idea what > would be broken with some clients. That was my primary concern. I looked at EMBA to see if there are any regression tests that would catch something like this, but didn't see anything. I am happy to help out with EMBA if need be, by the way. > A check for system-type is not sufficient, for every system there are > different ftp clients, which could behave different. If we want to add a > check for command argument availability, we would need to fire a test > call, and to analyze, whether given command arguments are supported. While I agree in principle, the way AngeFTP works pretty clearly assumes the client to present the BSD FTP command line interface. > We should take into consideration, that the default value for > ange-ftp-ftp-program-args hasn't been changed for at least 21 years. We > should also take into consideration, that ftp is being phased out in > browsers like Chrome and Firefox; its importance is decreasing. So I Which is why I am using AngeFTP. The convenient browser-based interfaces are gone and I am reverting to the same interface I use for other remote file access (TRAMP). > propose to not change anything, and let users customize > ange-ftp-ftp-program-args to their needs. I agree with that and I am fine with this bug being closed out as "won't fix" or some equivalent thereof. I submitted a bug against inetutils (don't have a bug number yet) and the underlying issue I saw on macOS should probably be addressed there. Until then I can either set ange-ftp-ftp-program-args or use tnftp. > Best regards, Michael. Thanks for the reply, much appreciated! -- Alex. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 20 17:33:42 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2021 21:33:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35340 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljqIY-0006sE-B7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 17:33:42 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:40464) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljqIW-0006s0-4O for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 17:33:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Date: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=3gxwTSBU5FI+j4x8jKlH4KciIV8q7TclBIO4dY/+BjY=; b=nL78WHPRc9ELCp0NJvFAZAFuyC N0UzuP77HWLZAeX/Q7LcpoOji+ZdY36+e9vG/6oZSzRD9SnfZLcJppWM5q7JM5CjwX0SD27wk5O09 DJ0ZJqKFWa3eFpVH5JF44d/gZSY60YlfeEAV6gK3LXQzeHE9Zs54iL0OkEa3QrZ98jH4=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ljqIM-0008J4-7R; Thu, 20 May 2021 23:33:32 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP In-Reply-To: <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 20 May 2021 15:02:43 +0200") Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 23:33:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Sam Amidon's _Lily-O_: "Pat Do This, Pat Do That" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Albinus writes: > We should take into consideration, that the default value for > ange-ftp-ftp-program-args hasn't been changed for at least 21 years. We > should also take into consideration, that ftp is being phase [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Alex Bochannek X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > We should take into consideration, that the default value for > ange-ftp-ftp-program-args hasn't been changed for at least 21 years. We > should also take into consideration, that ftp is being phased out in > browsers like Chrome and Firefox; its importance is decreasing. So I > propose to not change anything, and let users customize > ange-ftp-ftp-program-args to their needs. Perhaps the `ange-ftp-ftp-program-args' doc string should mention that some ftp clients require "-e"? That should help with discoverability for people who have these problems. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 20 18:02:39 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2021 22:02:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljqkZ-0007az-1t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 18:02:39 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:46008 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljqkW-0007aq-92 for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 18:02:38 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:471:4da4:7c7:731b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FmNyK69GBz3pk9y; Thu, 20 May 2021 15:02:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 15:02:33 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 20 May 2021 23:33:20 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Albinus X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Albinus writes: > >> We should take into consideration, that the default value for >> ange-ftp-ftp-program-args hasn't been changed for at least 21 years. We >> should also take into consideration, that ftp is being phased out in >> browsers like Chrome and Firefox; its importance is decreasing. So I >> propose to not change anything, and let users customize >> ange-ftp-ftp-program-args to their needs. > > Perhaps the `ange-ftp-ftp-program-args' doc string should mention that > some ftp clients require "-e"? That should help with discoverability > for people who have these problems. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline diff --git a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el index 04ea809127..064aca5abf 100644 --- a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el +++ b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el @@ -949,7 +949,9 @@ ange-ftp-gateway-ftp-program-name :type 'string) (defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") - "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started." + "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started. +Some FTP clients may also require the \"-e\" argument, which disables +command line editing." :group 'ange-ftp :type '(repeat string)) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain -- Alex. --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 21 04:25:21 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2021 08:25:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35727 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lk0TA-0005xL-S9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 04:25:21 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:60919) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lk0T8-0005x2-5o for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 04:25:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1621585506; bh=lULbWLut4OpR73JSKjpOuOrEMU5dXiPt4roTmA0sy78=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=FiCp8750iEmEJXaZSCpNWyi2Cg+bdXBHANx1XcyHCzntUucxaJ+3ir/IOIf8hd5N8 4p//Ql3w2ZacETJPBDhSDQYxpTRshbxL/qbMSDaCPVaQSYvYfb7zPyrqmuAMnyyTE3 i73xvC7Z6y8LP3veTf6A1zgBNE5zFE3qImnXN0E8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([79.140.119.224]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1McY8d-1lBlBE3drp-00cxR7; Fri, 21 May 2021 10:25:06 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Alex Bochannek Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 10:25:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alex Bochannek's message of "Thu, 20 May 2021 15:02:33 -0700") Message-ID: <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cBqPkigMCNe5tKwVI1Ou8NrcTxnH+YMXtB4kJqLgga7vpGnK1aW 05Ht3cawf+tslRpNI2/5iuEEUVrhH4WoJTU7tShz03em6A2pL2G213bHL0TeVZQDeSnbHcs O2wC7F1ZglliiZB9sAtwUN3n4OkQAoYcTdXWVwclAbO/ow/iJxf8RLx+5BoswFK3yTjgAg5 4m5z7zrVGMVjssxflIFVQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:vpwZC24sjlQ=:4Io7jb8sejhgOt4SskMwGl FVLoo4H9g9QsvXri6mef4jv0H/o4lzYQusxJIrSJ+CrfGYd2NyDPJKV9a+Cs3N5wUm4W8HFDt bHIbnVoqCzP01ZFMTIynuhDy8aZjdoKFVS9Y2O6Vin9vOyQEco3jUXEzXR4/5iEF/PBhCl0NW ZFJGPQTKsFIGl4VhhoDHbbz6TrCD9jJvZX46BMJKM6sl3jR0abIESrgLkM3y7vJHCnYm6cpqd 6TnKAuWro/uMnKor99tYbKuCt1coK6VIGBS/HEcrgfWr0HN7SkwwqARQXflOGU6Ngj3AKtNkz x0wltfcD1fn6LlXTnLsxjG7hshVPd1Llh8irTpL2a+r85k33TKk/3g95xIo/ovTZvhGKy64c0 jh4F7Pg6ZqBn/Q6Z3RcZfC5RqbbGOu7DU44dMnnvrwhy/IEYelsr49576bMunkxi1QCxddJcY dPqnJcdDRqEblOgh0H9rnkC+/aKTmneFDSwCoZ0LQfKbpRIcQNZpRLeOVtbjj8qHOgDbbdp38 vUyoo3Tu5TQWM5tKTOoyBYvnTFPDO64OQtMp6cevgZeIHYRqxh9GTOlD2H0QXe2SlTwGMsIh+ PKKSuqfj4/Ke9xCF1JD39qgGjJ01WV53cFV+dFKpGjhk7y0H8ndvX8sMhtMqdlOF+nTLrfqXq bia6Ey8bGtmcnVEaagkI1hy1h6YW8vhneQNo3qz83JZD2P1QrqoUk2PYyfHAAzmGVyfL0OgGH OZ+sZOgirqEKqv/LmFRm6GkefG7dRiyNgSiRj5Ii1D78EmcjBAFBb37/SFAmg7KtNNivRIlXX ngagDQCE2slqOrB8w7EUaOAQFYTVCesO5GCJ0RBoZJk43pYokd7bo/A2ORV38jTblNHl9iAEg Ks3pNQpDKVA28Psc1QuWYcXbwld+1OLLLoVy/jE9mGZAFM47OukuCJQS6aZjlAd/oMAU56brG XmPd6+wA46qgMk4hkwkyBVaV2RMxsJLz8/ZK0PA0Rtgxkb7k8NGq55TPEdhTH21TyQd7MIiqH sQ2Pp4ocGmVHmYO/NEO875/o/vBb7psS/6E44w6nI6D7eoVBkx7LQgrb1eu51gswiJ2eG+Eg4 pOOJ6Aq6HcL0oT0OIKdbTEWmOYDAxgdZX6FufvZk4fCh40D9eEuXb6UFlUh9A9wXaB44vb/0I k0gDtqo5au2GzVYF0YU/ZjPil35UEceRdUhO6uLyicQLbimxbMGeQz/+fnz3mOJklitJERv/p yGo0rWS3LS3bBhu7Z Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Alex Bochannek writes: Hi Alex, >> Perhaps the `ange-ftp-ftp-program-args' doc string should mention that >> some ftp clients require "-e"? That should help with discoverability >> for people who have these problems. > > diff --git a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el > index 04ea809127..064aca5abf 100644 > --- a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el > +++ b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el > @@ -949,7 +949,9 @@ ange-ftp-gateway-ftp-program-name > :type 'string) > > (defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") > - "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started." > + "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started. > +Some FTP clients may also require the \"-e\" argument, which disables > +command line editing." > :group 'ange-ftp > :type '(repeat string)) LGTM. As I see, you have already submitted several patches to Emacs. Have you signed already the FSF copyright papers? Otherwise, I fear your contributions would exceed the max tiny patch limit. In case you haven't signed yet, would you like to do that? It would enable you to submit as many patches to Emacs as you like :-) Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 21 13:06:31 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2021 17:06:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lk8bX-0001O3-M4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 13:06:31 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:24336 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lk8bW-0001Nv-2H for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 13:06:30 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:e19b:7741:3c48:f758]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FmtLD0zWqz3pk9P; Fri, 21 May 2021 10:06:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 10:06:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Fri, 21 May 2021 10:25:02 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Alex Bochannek writes: > > Hi Alex, > >>> Perhaps the `ange-ftp-ftp-program-args' doc string should mention that >>> some ftp clients require "-e"? That should help with discoverability >>> for people who have these problems. >> >> diff --git a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el >> index 04ea809127..064aca5abf 100644 >> --- a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el >> +++ b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el >> @@ -949,7 +949,9 @@ ange-ftp-gateway-ftp-program-name >> :type 'string) >> >> (defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") >> - "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started." >> + "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started. >> +Some FTP clients may also require the \"-e\" argument, which disables >> +command line editing." >> :group 'ange-ftp >> :type '(repeat string)) > > LGTM. As I see, you have already submitted several patches to > Emacs. Have you signed already the FSF copyright papers? Otherwise, I > fear your contributions would exceed the max tiny patch limit. I have not. > In case you haven't signed yet, would you like to do that? It would > enable you to submit as many patches to Emacs as you like :-) Sure, happy to do that! -- Alex. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 21 13:46:55 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2021 17:46:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37516 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lk9Ec-0002OM-Qi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 13:46:55 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:57553) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lk9EX-0002O3-NL for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 13:46:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1621619198; bh=AoDe3dvlpNXV+hPF9SpsFDJ+OX19vI1w6DmLGUnD9QY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=lq2CUDBZys5VTLn+OjAuwan0yBG5AEwcBEqI+C3isSS6Rb4vieI+jbEyqN2WptvML vRJfVjZcNvb+xt0sniGx3Q6xABphyufvLh4F7r/8MfCkd6WGMjERL2ycv5lpRs5KRm YttTtFJxzsdpnC1EQy4K5cupOYDOaj8PE8CW8C40= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([79.140.119.224]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1ML9yc-1m187I2wxW-00IEX7; Fri, 21 May 2021 19:46:38 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Alex Bochannek Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 19:46:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alex Bochannek's message of "Fri, 21 May 2021 10:06:25 -0700") Message-ID: <87o8d4q8sj.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fkUlWjDw11HmRBrWeQs4+LXTeivQ4cFuRwZ9Nxb9CKu2Bjtefxk URSy/2W997mUe78CaIAfXfYJDK83+qTsOn8AiPwW/zwkL9FOVoTUe+yBYRuTDIcfrgKQ42x l7ASpPEKCZ0ZudhiJVpbaE+nrF1MzbcgbaBCK+Tv165N/u5wEKQNwaTrX/TlH4p81kNUGh7 OXwY8EluXd/TJZkrX0TJQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:xq1PLtyYD5U=:YqZV48LOQoW5oJiPs9B/U8 UDA2cZh82Az/yd5n0v0fM8/zCzs2zmmX7dwVgvDG+o3ryXP2KASnIuOeURSy3eDSEdDJg7shn /iLePpN2qwIsXd/Zb2a/M1jMwFAAF8QPq9gygC4vnr1qeLRG4deJWeByXKlEYYVS00E2ziJiy 8cWLV+aOiowQ+MBBaCun25wa33qosPHQECgLctZMQLAR1YDmIqaWevii+DnTgCnvYhUfrb/nu oxG2vFuMg+8pjp9jKRuexc36FsVpwSjbooL6qQfHJlQBrUXw/AmSgipLWMaOqibnVXT/3Gxah jcP0scFRO8xTErsxPXyeUtkEFUzkpdw4frcLufFXu4VuHhpzEwRu8pUVfT7aWF3+1dIW9wxl3 DtAzoPbRrPo307tsLx4GcR8REt3EKrXIf0uN5j3G1Zi2foDtq7+sYiHYJ/JjMtKDGqkyRU9DO Jx5UhxphvOzU2r+ztcGYy35GRCrGcCFnXdzryVuMRrLQaU9YXdji1Ssx5fYOYaYiYp6sv66m+ Zvx9eM366IhNapEzRRNqXszQaGer3kLnyhy5dZl2fXP56T91gvoc4VwRbKI6ENSRQKYSmyz9p m+P4/lHjO9/1msXzrSy5IXltU8jm5dWPHVDOCblE5H0J2EwaUR+1uUE6+Dipm4UH+xp3CNZa2 NzbLVQ7986Mx+qfuIW5BRgqusCo0nnYuKGxB6PfuWBIFC91TiXrsuW/DbsxfISl2ntMW4qkv9 PE+KN2boK/SJEpPiNcmDPN343UoN6beUEThXPkGmFMMKMxAPU8p3D8dvx1DjQEsSR2/2vgMZ+ yZ0qxFBQRO++wTOICEBW/WIrTgcpjKvygMeXLKQ74JDl5/oitNuD8YzjIsoQ1Kc0nvCIlxsG1 wh073FUBEp0Ag8KJJ5Z6Bv82ff2dvB/vCCqwyRxHMmiVlfj2qcwRleFPkKmgGuAHnILVCKdFD pixKgwKJQK8py6+L7J+XW3EYs80C4hBG7uZG47Ko0kjK/r2k3AWLgrF8tcWHQoohnwwVHi++X 6Ljgg2ZvkPBPeHPtZ7DmHf5zNWQSQ6x+3efbNGKzTBSLFt5HKwJoccy/AhmrR3dX36jk3iYFM uD1D9ETv9DI9OiiHt82J7QmaKAFBF9lycnOz1kL9anDZd3NrzRikCEvIojoXYzDTGNNCNRlfk oe37h18q72bWXAzEs0H0qGPxY1WYj1coNbWFznL52NCXZBBQAf/R6ydXukEqcEU2PDHVnDMj6 OhWQKuiJs5uRjrESe X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Alex Bochannek writes: Hi Alex, >> LGTM. As I see, you have already submitted several patches to >> Emacs. Have you signed already the FSF copyright papers? Otherwise, I >> fear your contributions would exceed the max tiny patch limit. > > I have not. > >> In case you haven't signed yet, would you like to do that? It would >> enable you to submit as many patches to Emacs as you like :-) > > Sure, happy to do that! Thanks for this! To start the assignment process you should download https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnulib.git/plain/doc/Copyright/request-assign.future and return the completed information to the address at the top. When the process has been finished (it will take some days), please ping me, and I will push the patch in your name. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 21 14:12:39 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2021 18:12:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37532 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lk9dW-000314-OQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 14:12:38 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:33607 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lk9dU-00030v-54 for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 14:12:37 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:e19b:7741:3c48:f758]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FmvpV2NTDz3pfWK; Fri, 21 May 2021 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> <87o8d4q8sj.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 11:12:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87o8d4q8sj.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Fri, 21 May 2021 19:46:36 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Alex Bochannek writes: > > Hi Alex, > >>> LGTM. As I see, you have already submitted several patches to >>> Emacs. Have you signed already the FSF copyright papers? Otherwise, I >>> fear your contributions would exceed the max tiny patch limit. >> >> I have not. >> >>> In case you haven't signed yet, would you like to do that? It would >>> enable you to submit as many patches to Emacs as you like :-) >> >> Sure, happy to do that! > > Thanks for this! To start the assignment process you should download > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnulib.git/plain/doc/Copyright/request-assign.future > and return the completed information to the address at the top. When the > process has been finished (it will take some days), please ping me, and > I will push the patch in your name. OK, sent. I also heard back from the Inetutils maintainers and this is not a known bug in their FTP client. -- Alex. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 24 14:59:07 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2021 18:59:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1llFn9-0005hb-E8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 14:59:07 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:46364 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1llFn5-0005hR-JR for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 14:59:06 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:6416:6b7e:4968:c61b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Fpmhj0x7lz3pfWK; Mon, 24 May 2021 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 11:59:00 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Fri, 21 May 2021 10:25:02 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Michael Albinus X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Alex Bochannek writes: > > Hi Alex, > >>> Perhaps the `ange-ftp-ftp-program-args' doc string should mention that >>> some ftp clients require "-e"? That should help with discoverability >>> for people who have these problems. >> >> diff --git a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el >> index 04ea809127..064aca5abf 100644 >> --- a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el >> +++ b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el >> @@ -949,7 +949,9 @@ ange-ftp-gateway-ftp-program-name >> :type 'string) >> >> (defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") >> - "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started." >> + "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started. >> +Some FTP clients may also require the \"-e\" argument, which disables >> +command line editing." >> :group 'ange-ftp >> :type '(repeat string)) Follow-up to this. The issue on macOS appears to be caused by inetutils picking up libedit for Readline during configuration. Once I installed a proper libreadline and configured with the right prefix, the problem was resolved. Adding the -e comment to the docstring still seems sensible to me. -- Alex. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 25 03:35:06 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 May 2021 07:35:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44567 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1llRak-0001IR-5s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 03:35:06 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:33281) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1llRai-0001Hs-58 for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 03:35:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1621928092; bh=it8I/eqkEgS0V4pTDUE4JElrZX4QtHBgovo2ID+A6a8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=AhskKvBzSzr8kk8CXwXM7fTHBJJP+6Z31+vzW/5TWvNR+k1TmVCEdvH/HnU7JktrU 1bPDEMR9CJAxuIKrOPGwlsVcm+w5G2c9nLHCW9+sqTFQs5zYEt47G27EBNk6Evi0Un 1KBwf1C+HCuEyy2Vk2/Sm2IGhqXvVjQoPvUz92Ts= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([212.91.249.105]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MeCpb-1lBqBf1ef1-00bGnA; Tue, 25 May 2021 09:34:52 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Alex Bochannek Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 09:34:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alex Bochannek's message of "Mon, 24 May 2021 11:59:00 -0700") Message-ID: <878s43nu5h.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:XScF3r8cq16NrtaqLaIFmNieOCsWijf00WeCfCle8hd8NoKHeg/ wyf+342P4rLgarUGsc5bYd5cauYGi9eloKIQ8Gj2eTtjxzNngUS0QXBtbu5hofy0uW8ap8V D4mtIdFRztBdAMLhrl8NGLUNF/JgFvt2dCurfmWekvfAj4K9N1pTQLgWXv/iXBgWYjq7qEW UhJ3QXdaNjuB6H105PzQQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:3O+3Zr4mmbc=:WoIFpBpSGLFs6+EM0mZ391 7IAggUF0ibJCDmhVzt9cOiaDBvj1MwyJxcad20OCMcMz/rKWDWvrjy5+wIjItive5JobK1YKA wkxStdOk78KzgH8GWPxIQYbWlqHFaWzlyX5euTK6BZMPynizpdwcNFFV8UjFMZH+p5EK7eTec NAlpcxPtFZTA/iwe/x4UtI4hXHNnAOs0FMF3F5CTjgOM9B/vbv0jmPtz2KWhZffC2qckbTVkS 3895mEU9CfQY2LN2rpO0qG70/JAz0F5VLvGhzVACRicCghX3zrPzWtvjJmnLB3kLw/kSJ+8MO tdaNofjRp/9a0QVeQs+MUBCZhTJjXEbG7U1XgzrIHeDq3Sd/wY9nRWcV3iyv0Xr+BSvAQ+B7a h6mYID31df1iXZ5UKQmU30GRBeduvlc+AVdyjm9gbChmdxReBv/H3o2izZ89+5lKfUJioJEfI Y7Ro2tYWKEpUGCWIgzAubtaIrrkGszaTJm3wEau/HDlj931vdJlfGzIMPRASbkvWUbPImLzu+ g3+jn+xxuvfHj3MZbbi0VlKd5JvHMcfl3Nq/T8HxmVASy6XG/BcsGFm6TpS74eunYmIwxTfQb rAj7u8gK0R9PwWTmAdoeYyYD1HoQNjTkCTGEB7AnWxUkuxxXfH9jYRpzo2UD+o2aASbeGbekS toK5yhPfRkpt5/NSXvy984TIZKSjW65aqJy0qRBMKmmroL1AgDyfpXBaLpyyGQrEarFf5upCl PnJOjATi1Hh5eNxe8CMis4fHshd/dHH4MnzapdWttO0zFJsJxkZZVU/X1Nffs8Q+j5JXPJq9S MUJnnLOxAgxqZhhHTZqdzfg3jvC0O2aKJhSunnI3fRDMUrvZsTaoAZiOkqx0o30lr6oMTa9K3 RRwk9QbYxLj1j2IPPFpLiqdJ/kwHyKLKLwEZTPTwMgkKolz/zKxWelsfBCgMnPvc7Oh2iKvnh hjFVni4OTvt7tY1lvCafikwW7nboiqwbpNKBi2/CeJwJCo43bgnCcOnT/3O7hy/hlHE5VRTYu gCAxyFApNcZAOylqISOvGABvsH8fSOgXLmDl4Cc6jgvJsmEX1SIyAImM1Xp8ceE385tykqAff qmilHs4j6M6IeL4Ge+kRPirGUn8zsZpQmSjFy/yWXDUFFFX3G19oodT7A== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Alex Bochannek writes: Hi Alex, > Follow-up to this. The issue on macOS appears to be caused by inetutils > picking up libedit for Readline during configuration. Once I installed a > proper libreadline and configured with the right prefix, the problem was > resolved. > > Adding the -e comment to the docstring still seems sensible to me. D'accord. Perhaps you could also add a comment with this fact, and referring to bug#48494. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 25 15:33:43 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 May 2021 19:33:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1llcoB-00064W-Ki for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 15:33:43 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:15617 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1llco8-00064M-Ay for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 15:33:43 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:a0af:db4e:3957:b65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FqPQ92tgyz3pdpf; Tue, 25 May 2021 12:33:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> <878s43nu5h.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 12:33:36 -0700 In-Reply-To: <878s43nu5h.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Tue, 25 May 2021 09:34:50 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Michael Albinus writes: > Alex Bochannek writes: > > Hi Alex, > >> Follow-up to this. The issue on macOS appears to be caused by inetutils >> picking up libedit for Readline during configuration. Once I installed a >> proper libreadline and configured with the right prefix, the problem was >> resolved. >> >> Adding the -e comment to the docstring still seems sensible to me. > > D'accord. Perhaps you could also add a comment with this fact, and > referring to bug#48494. Sounds good. See below. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline diff --git a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el index 04ea809127..3f3a3df8e5 100644 --- a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el +++ b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el @@ -949,7 +949,11 @@ ange-ftp-gateway-ftp-program-name :type 'string) (defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") - "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started." + ;; Clients that use the BSD editline instead of the GNU readline + ;; library may need to disable command line editing. (Bug#48494) + "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started. +Some FTP clients may also require the \"-e\" argument, which disables +command line editing." :group 'ange-ftp :type '(repeat string)) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain -- Alex. --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 27 03:52:38 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2021 07:52:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50561 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lmAoo-0005Qk-ES for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 03:52:38 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:59251) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lmAom-0005QW-NF for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 03:52:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1622101938; bh=BP6pFNVCqroWP6+ryoSGzEhdFr7fPc48uoyJc+g2K2Q=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=GrYgMLlU7HX3ON8e0o1xJkgmshvIVuXidlZOt7dlbfUP8zwPRpHevfPAdxZuplzvq KbPeEsyXXVxepduwIYxg6yDmPiU/FnckxnKI9cAM83g3ZwZN83WbT+7lnU2aFnqZx1 DmE3vtMehtq3UFz8cpxYisQNL1gYapW9ZAvwpq6g= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([212.91.249.105]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N5mGB-1lNG3u3kcd-017HCi; Thu, 27 May 2021 09:52:18 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Alex Bochannek Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> <878s43nu5h.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 09:52:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alex Bochannek's message of "Tue, 25 May 2021 12:33:36 -0700") Message-ID: <87r1hsmx5d.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Lod3WB1mxc370FAXOqN4c6ruJh3Jv40YOKHrW3czV552FxB1S4c hHQisVYuxKQhxZGPJrQKPIUOUCWW66teKelxLD873twdq3N5kYnpwlqWtdz91tK3QWDljP9 VYBmUJVONzU5FIVyDFHx4yTHQKtjPSut4HRNUuumXLHS3UO9vM7Ziw7kZCcl3MZoq9cMlBy p9bcrVhsAuinJaMPIuGOQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:NA5oSMLt/F0=:K5WlPeBOwbhai0xfQFUA4z BeTyAPaIvJHL0cP+nNy9mEMl/T2iNw6d9fTUJbuEBnUuSeXROfyysFtarDmKqtUq11LX6Ay94 pgvsmgRixq4ji0hw3EWhbDz8C2mOXDv1TESkqxLoe4yygEmdtr21azhqvCtd4v3Y6mAikbKEC BGlww3frDG+hLwCisv1EofAHihTptMnrAyrIo1KkVhhHzpTZb8D2oteAX7uTOQ7ef07PLzN3M 7UVDTdDufbcmIcyVFKvFhudnzOAB/Hq3ydvrg4JANZLgHAAmlwMuENf45u8Xb0kuR9n6H16rv vMDXja7nOioAiX8uqrluca6aSxtASEFpjwHDhND8xmLGVEI1x+tnnJnlc1aAf7+VqM9vBlQPm mU04Sz7v63DfvrUhMGjpWTl3xUWmkVlmPC1eHLbN89Z7RiYwu0SBF0Snl9v6XeSZYZUV2c8/x Nx1wsxlx8DvSM3nUJ86Q7/lMfRtwZ9xkK1OGPw4xiqxsaWo+s08ryY6EP8++6EQFOlz3KexT6 z6q8D07L9Wbk3chTq4uytcfKja5lx4H6Rpzv2xjFG3PiP8jiTew3S8Q+zCZbyzZ9Lo1FF7mWF siD/I5ARboFVY8Rd/tVllsh4CEXjQXYGAQmD0K81j0Sses/UHhHHlMqsNALxiFXATXsAZOOCa ffvzo/c7PQvLZkyxL+q358X5tXo5HM20TUs8oQk5rgKL/yLq6RRRW8Xu12MECO3AAHx+joDcQ Dx5o936S27AI2Eka1RnvrF/XgvGhNvYg1YQiPSuRtkTJrXwsI/WN5N0lPS+pdutZvaK6BTUn5 4B0ozmJOn26Zy6Nx8aFGwgAeidRIEtRe92UzRAmAujSBNXkG/XjUinns3xaUKslxvlpvWxel9 8+kXVwo85Zs5wweeNN2qUtOPRwPdhn79CDF/UVq68xoyD+Sylt6I7+515GEXasf2xdT1saSH3 cW57x0qbcHvUic+YhINN/OqavLQT5eNqf13ElHy5R7z3Idj3sU2gBG9UiVRjK5xclcm7sXcIj w3AXvkB+0GxWr99di+QPko0iuUEz107JhneDw4sIJ+XREw8SV6PHbruXbI0j2LwPd5WYeq49q 3cN+5pl2pmLk1t7W30u2rYPpMkwgwFwObpq1SrGdvAfu01eF2kzHlH6sHwTwYAlIXwrr/BBDA tZ+Oe3HQpKTI9C4t10bhGNFhc9U5oQaPjLcpRxPj5INEZq10KukHd5gm0WZG+Zg4WfmU8Y4C2 7SCtnMAywt0rinibQ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Alex Bochannek writes: Hi Alex, > Sounds good. See below. > > diff --git a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el > index 04ea809127..3f3a3df8e5 100644 > --- a/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el > +++ b/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el > @@ -949,7 +949,11 @@ ange-ftp-gateway-ftp-program-name > :type 'string) > > (defcustom ange-ftp-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") > - "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started." > + ;; Clients that use the BSD editline instead of the GNU readline > + ;; library may need to disable command line editing. (Bug#48494) > + "A list of arguments passed to the FTP program when started. > +Some FTP clients may also require the \"-e\" argument, which disables > +command line editing." > :group 'ange-ftp > :type '(repeat string)) LGTM. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 27 17:27:09 2021 Received: (at 48494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2021 21:27:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52931 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lmNX3-0003Xa-Jz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 17:27:09 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:2332 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lmNX1-0003XP-Sz for 48494@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 17:27:08 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:f81d:8d38:732c:6363]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FrgrB20pBz3pdpp; Thu, 27 May 2021 14:27:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#48494: 28.0.50; [PATCH] AngeFTP fails on macOS 10.14 with GNU inetutils FTP References: <83mtsss1gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8d7rjl8.fsf@gnu.org> <8735uh4ky4.fsf@gmx.de> <87tumxay5b.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg2gqysh.fsf@gmx.de> <87o8d4q8sj.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 14:27:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87o8d4q8sj.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Fri, 21 May 2021 19:46:36 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@bochannek.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48494 Cc: 48494@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Thanks for this! To start the assignment process you should download > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnulib.git/plain/doc/Copyright/request-assign.future > and return the completed information to the address at the top. When the > process has been finished (it will take some days), please ping me, and > I will push the patch in your name. Assignment is complete, just got the signed paperwork back. -- Alex. 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