From unknown Fri Aug 15 02:04:49 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#4814 <4814@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#4814 <4814@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 Reply-To: bug#4814 <4814@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:04:49 +0000 retitle 4814 keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10= -15 on w32 reassign 4814 emacs submitter 4814 MON KEY severity 4814 normal thanks From stan@derbycityprints.com Tue Oct 27 08:29:57 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Oct 2009 15:29:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9RFTt8Q027350 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:29:57 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N2nzf-0003x9-5t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:29:55 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N2nza-0003qB-5V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:29:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35764 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N2nzZ-0003pv-Uj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:29:50 -0400 Received: from mail-yx0-f191.google.com ([209.85.210.191]:53632) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N2nzX-0007uv-Ix for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:29:48 -0400 Received: by yxe29 with SMTP id 29so230757yxe.14 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:29:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: stan@derbycityprints.com Received: by 10.150.130.36 with SMTP id c36mr12846085ybd.180.1256657385806; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:29:45 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fdf96b1ed54eecd6 Message-ID: Subject: keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 From: MON KEY To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Emacs from CVS current through 2009-10-15 is not correctly interacting with my system - WinXP Service Pack 3. There is a low level conflict somewhere related to Emacs' keyboard/server interaction with the rest of the system. Specifically, I am experiencing a bug wherein the application Xkeymacs Version 3.47 :SEE (URL `http://www.cam.hi-ho.ne.jp/oishi/indexen.html') is no longer able to recognize Emacs application/process nor can it override Emacs system level interface w/ keyboard. The current failure has not occurred with _any_ previous Emacs distributions/builds in the past. Nor have I experienced a conflict of this sort vis a vis Xkeymacs and _any_ other application. This is happening on the Emacs side. Lennart and I have already verified that the bug has been introduced by his build/compilation. I'm including the config data from the three separate builds - two verified working one not-working. The only difference that I see are the compiler and flags. These flags shouldn't affect what is happening w/re to the way keyboard interaction is failing for the emacsen's interaction with the rest of the system. The proof is that I have never had this problem before w/ Emacs or _any_ other application on this machine. Emacs 23.1.1 of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON <- WORKS Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched) <- WORKS Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-10-15 on LENNART-69DE564 (unpatched) <- FAILS Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-10-13 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched) <- FAILS ;;; ============================== ;;; This is the most recent Lennart unpatched from CVS. :DOES-NOT-WORK In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-10-15 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t ;;; ============================== ;;; I've also verified this build. :WORKS In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t ;;; ============================== ;;; I've moved back to this build :WORKS In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched) Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --cflags -Ic:/g/include' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 27 18:15:03 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2010 23:15:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaH6E-0002Bg-Fa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:15:02 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaH6D-0002BL-2V for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:15:01 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaH69-0000Wv-8u; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:14:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19296.51441.209320.592328@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:14:57 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: green X-Ran: zo'*iB'qaD@E7lvk:%ud#li0vS`>9n1#8k6lXA9o%H<]pe)MoMi?tf2?x{Mj'@:O'2741; X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) reassign 4814 emacs,w32 tags 4816 patch moreinfo merge 4789 4881 severity 4789 minor severity 4882 minor From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 02 20:37:35 2010 Received: (at 4814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Feb 2010 01:37:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcUBT-0006yp-A0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:37:35 -0500 Received: from mail-yx0-f195.google.com ([209.85.210.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcUBQ-0006yk-SA for 4814@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:37:33 -0500 Received: by yxe33 with SMTP id 33so719455yxe.0 for <4814@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:37:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.184.8 with SMTP id h8mr9681986ybf.310.1265161048820; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:37:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:37:28 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7441c5b31c3b31e2 Message-ID: Subject: bug#4814 keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 From: MON KEY To: 4814@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4814 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) This bug remains outstanding through pretest 23.1.91.1 of 2010-01-02. I've had an opportunity to examine the problem on that build as well. Following is an attempt to identify and compare/contrast what I've been able to deduce of the problem. ;;; ============================== "GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-01-02 on PRETEST" Invoked with: emacs -Q :NOTE The value of the map: (0 . [67108896]) in `local-function-key-map' does not seem to have been present until after 07-2009. The value 0x2ed76000 appears in my dribble-file and recent-keys output for all ``control'' key presses. `key-translation-map' on `emacs-version' => (keymap (24 keymap (56 . iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map))) `input-decode-map' => (keymap (27 keymap (C-backspace) (C-delete)) (C-M-backspace) (C-M-delete) (M-backspace) (M-delete)) `local-function-key-map' => (keymap (backspace . [127]) (kp-delete . [4]) (delete . [4]) keymap (S-tab . [backtab]) (S-iso-lefttab . [backtab]) (iso-lefttab . [backtab]) (M-escape . [134217755]) (M-return . [134217741]) (M-clear . [134217740]) (M-linefeed . [134217738]) (M-tab . [134217737]) (M-delete . [134217855]) (M-backspace . [134217855]) keymap (escape . [27]) (return . [13]) (clear . [12]) (linefeed . [10]) (tab . [9]) (kp-equal . [61]) (kp-divide . [47]) (kp-decimal . [46]) (kp-subtract . [45]) (kp-separator . [44]) (kp-add . [43]) (kp-multiply . [42]) (kp-enter . [13]) (kp-tab . [9]) (kp-space . [32]) (kp-9 . [57]) (kp-8 . [56]) (kp-7 . [55]) (kp-6 . [54]) (kp-5 . [53]) (kp-4 . [52]) (kp-3 . [51]) (kp-2 . [50]) (kp-1 . [49]) (kp-0 . [48]) (24 keymap (64 keymap (99 . event-apply-control-modifier) (83 . event-apply-shift-modifier) (97 . event-apply-alt-modifier) (109 . event-apply-meta-modifier) (115 . event-apply-super-modifier) (104 . event-apply-hyper-modifier))) (0 . [67108896]) (C-S-kp-9 . [C-S-prior]) (C-S-kp-8 . [C-S-up]) (C-S-kp-7 . [C-S-home]) (C-S-kp-6 . [C-S-right]) (C-S-kp-4 . [C-S-left]) (C-S-kp-3 . [C-S-next]) (C-S-kp-2 . [C-S-down]) (C-S-kp-1 . [C-S-end]) (C-S-kp-prior . [C-S-prior]) (C-S-kp-up . [C-S-up]) (C-S-kp-home . [C-S-home]) (C-S-kp-right . [C-S-right]) (C-S-kp-left . [C-S-left]) (C-S-kp-next . [C-S-next]) (C-S-kp-down . [C-S-down]) (C-S-kp-end . [C-S-end]) (S-kp-prior . [S-prior]) (S-kp-up . [S-up]) (S-kp-home . [S-home]) (S-kp-right . [S-right]) (S-kp-left . [S-left]) (S-kp-next . [S-next]) (S-kp-down . [S-down]) (S-kp-end . [S-end]) (kp-delete . [127]) (delete . [127]) (backspace . [127]) (kp-insert . [insert]) (kp-begin . [begin]) (kp-end . [end]) (M-kp-next . [M-next]) (kp-next . [next]) (kp-prior . [prior]) (kp-down . [down]) (kp-right . [right]) (kp-up . [up]) (kp-left . [left]) (kp-home . [home])) `function-key-map' => (keymap (escape . [27]) (return . [13]) (clear . [12]) (linefeed . [10]) (tab . [9]) (kp-equal . [61]) (kp-divide . [47]) (kp-decimal . [46]) (kp-subtract . [45]) (kp-separator . [44]) (kp-add . [43]) (kp-multiply . [42]) (kp-enter . [13]) (kp-tab . [9]) (kp-space . [32]) (kp-9 . [57]) (kp-8 . [56]) (kp-7 . [55]) (kp-6 . [54]) (kp-5 . [53]) (kp-4 . [52]) (kp-3 . [51]) (kp-2 . [50]) (kp-1 . [49]) (kp-0 . [48]) (24 keymap (64 keymap (99 . event-apply-control-modifier) (83 . event-apply-shift-modifier) (97 . event-apply-alt-modifier) (109 . event-apply-meta-modifier) (115 . event-apply-super-modifier) (104 . event-apply-hyper-modifier))) (0 . [67108896]) (C-S-kp-9 . [C-S-prior]) (C-S-kp-8 . [C-S-up]) (C-S-kp-7 . [C-S-home]) (C-S-kp-6 . [C-S-right]) (C-S-kp-4 . [C-S-left]) (C-S-kp-3 . [C-S-next]) (C-S-kp-2 . [C-S-down]) (C-S-kp-1 . [C-S-end]) (C-S-kp-prior . [C-S-prior]) (C-S-kp-up . [C-S-up]) (C-S-kp-home . [C-S-home]) (C-S-kp-right . [C-S-right]) (C-S-kp-left . [C-S-left]) (C-S-kp-next . [C-S-next]) (C-S-kp-down . [C-S-down]) (C-S-kp-end . [C-S-end]) (S-kp-prior . [S-prior]) (S-kp-up . [S-up]) (S-kp-home . [S-home]) (S-kp-right . [S-right]) (S-kp-left . [S-left]) (S-kp-next . [S-next]) (S-kp-down . [S-down]) (S-kp-end . [S-end]) (kp-delete . [127]) (delete . [127]) (backspace . [127]) (kp-insert . [insert]) (kp-begin . [begin]) (kp-end . [end]) (M-kp-next . [M-next]) (kp-next . [next]) (kp-prior . [prior]) (kp-down . [down]) (kp-right . [right]) (kp-up . [up]) (kp-left . [left]) (kp-home . [home])) ;;; ============================== As per the initial bug report following are comparative output from an earlier Emacs which functions as expected. These are likewise for the unpatched version from a similar period. `emacs-version' => "GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched)" `key-translation-map' => (keymap {.. Lots of maps elided ...} (24 keymap (56 keymap (126 keymap (32 . "~") (126 . [172]) (116 . [254]) (111 . [245]) (110 . [241]) (100 . [240]) (97 . [227]) (84 . [222]) (79 . [213]) (78 . [209]) (68 . [208]) (65 . [195])) (124 . [166]) (120 . [215]) (109 . [181]) (117 . [181]) (111 . [176]) (99 . [162]) (96 keymap (32 . "`") (117 . [249]) (111 . [242]) (105 . [236]) (101 . [232]) (97 . [224]) (85 . [217]) (79 . [210]) (73 . [204]) (69 . [200]) (65 . [192])) (95 keymap (111 . [186]) (97 . [170])) (94 keymap (32 . "^") (117 . [251]) (111 . [244]) (105 . [238]) (101 . [234]) (97 . [226]) (85 . [219]) (79 . [212]) (73 . [206]) (69 . [202]) (65 . [194]) (51 . [179]) (50 . [178]) (49 . [185])) (89 . [165]) (83 . [167]) (82 . [174]) (80 . [182]) (76 . [163]) (67 . [169]) (63 . [191]) (62 . [187]) (61 . [175]) (60 . [171]) (51 keymap (47 keymap (52 . [190]))) (49 keymap (47 keymap (52 . [188]) (50 . [189]))) (47 keymap (111 . [248]) (101 . [230]) (97 . [229]) (79 . [216]) (69 . [198]) (65 . [197]) (47 . [247])) (46 . [183]) (45 . [173]) (44 keymap (99 . [231]) (67 . [199]) (44 . [184])) (43 . [177]) (36 . [164]) (39 keymap (32 . "'") (121 . [253]) (117 . [250]) (111 . [243]) (105 . [237]) (101 . [233]) (97 . [225]) (89 . [221]) (85 . [218]) (79 . [211]) (73 . [205]) (69 . [201]) (65 . [193]) (39 . [180])) (34 keymap (32 . "\"") (121 . [255]) (117 . [252]) (115 . [223]) (111 . [246]) (105 . [239]) (101 . [235]) (97 . [228]) (85 . [220]) (79 . [214]) (73 . [207]) (69 . [203]) (65 . [196]) (34 . [168])) (33 . [161]) (32 . [160]) (42 keymap (124 . [166]) (120 . [215]) (109 . [181]) (117 . [181]) (111 . [176]) (99 . [162]) (89 . [165]) (83 . [167]) (82 . [174]) (80 . [182]) (76 . [163]) (67 . [169]) (63 . [191]) (62 . [187]) (61 . [175]) (60 . [171]) (46 . [183]) (45 . [173]) (43 . [177]) (36 . [164]) (33 . [161]) (32 . [160]))))) `function-key-map' => (keymap (kp-equal . [61]) (kp-divide . [47]) (kp-decimal . [46]) (kp-subtract . [45]) (kp-separator . [44]) (kp-add . [43]) (kp-multiply . [42]) (kp-enter . [13]) (kp-tab . [9]) (kp-space . [32]) (kp-9 . [57]) (kp-8 . [56]) (kp-7 . [55]) (kp-6 . [54]) (kp-5 . [53]) (kp-4 . [52]) (kp-3 . [51]) (kp-2 . [50]) (kp-1 . [49]) (kp-0 . [48]) (24 keymap (64 keymap (99 . event-apply-control-modifier) (83 . event-apply-shift-modifier) (97 . event-apply-alt-modifier) (109 . event-apply-meta-modifier) (115 . event-apply-super-modifier) (104 . event-apply-hyper-modifier))) (C-S-kp-9 . [C-S-prior]) (C-S-kp-8 . [C-S-up]) (C-S-kp-7 . [C-S-home]) (C-S-kp-6 . [C-S-right]) (C-S-kp-4 . [C-S-left]) (C-S-kp-3 . [C-S-next]) (C-S-kp-2 . [C-S-down]) (C-S-kp-1 . [C-S-end]) (C-S-kp-prior . [C-S-prior]) (C-S-kp-up . [C-S-up]) (C-S-kp-home . [C-S-home]) (C-S-kp-right . [C-S-right]) (C-S-kp-left . [C-S-left]) (C-S-kp-next . [C-S-next]) (C-S-kp-down . [C-S-down]) (C-S-kp-end . [C-S-end]) (S-kp-prior . [S-prior]) (S-kp-up . [S-up]) (S-kp-home . [S-home]) (S-kp-right . [S-right]) (S-kp-left . [S-left]) (S-kp-next . [S-next]) (S-kp-down . [S-down]) (S-kp-end . [S-end]) (kp-delete . [127]) (delete . [127]) (backspace . [127]) (kp-insert . [insert]) (kp-begin . [begin]) (kp-end . [end]) (M-kp-next . [M-next]) (kp-next . [next]) (kp-prior . [prior]) (kp-down . [down]) (kp-right . [right]) (kp-up . [up]) (kp-left . [left]) (kp-home . [home])) `local-function-key-map' (keymap (backspace . [127]) (kp-delete . [4]) (delete . [4]) keymap (S-tab . [backtab]) (S-iso-lefttab . [backtab]) (iso-lefttab . [backtab]) (M-escape . [134217755]) (M-return . [134217741]) (M-clear . [134217740]) (M-linefeed . [134217738]) (M-tab . [134217737]) (M-delete . [134217855]) (M-backspace . [134217855]) (escape . [27]) (return . [13]) (clear . [12]) (linefeed . [10]) (tab . [9]) (delete . [127]) (backspace . [127]) keymap (kp-equal . [61]) (kp-divide . [47]) (kp-decimal . [46]) (kp-subtract . [45]) (kp-separator . [44]) (kp-add . [43]) (kp-multiply . [42]) (kp-enter . [13]) (kp-tab . [9]) (kp-space . [32]) (kp-9 . [57]) (kp-8 . [56]) (kp-7 . [55]) (kp-6 . [54]) (kp-5 . [53]) (kp-4 . [52]) (kp-3 . [51]) (kp-2 . [50]) (kp-1 . [49]) (kp-0 . [48]) (24 keymap (64 keymap (99 . event-apply-control-modifier) (83 . event-apply-shift-modifier) (97 . event-apply-alt-modifier) (109 . event-apply-meta-modifier) (115 . event-apply-super-modifier) (104 . event-apply-hyper-modifier))) (C-S-kp-9 . [C-S-prior]) (C-S-kp-8 . [C-S-up]) (C-S-kp-7 . [C-S-home]) (C-S-kp-6 . [C-S-right]) (C-S-kp-4 . [C-S-left]) (C-S-kp-3 . [C-S-next]) (C-S-kp-2 . [C-S-down]) (C-S-kp-1 . [C-S-end]) (C-S-kp-prior . [C-S-prior]) (C-S-kp-up . [C-S-up]) (C-S-kp-home . [C-S-home]) (C-S-kp-right . [C-S-right]) (C-S-kp-left . [C-S-left]) (C-S-kp-next . [C-S-next]) (C-S-kp-down . [C-S-down]) (C-S-kp-end . [C-S-end]) (S-kp-prior . [S-prior]) (S-kp-up . [S-up]) (S-kp-home . [S-home]) (S-kp-right . [S-right]) (S-kp-left . [S-left]) (S-kp-next . [S-next]) (S-kp-down . [S-down]) (S-kp-end . [S-end]) (kp-delete . [127]) (delete . [127]) (backspace . [127]) (kp-insert . [insert]) (kp-begin . [begin]) (kp-end . [end]) (M-kp-next . [M-next]) (kp-next . [next]) (kp-prior . [prior]) (kp-down . [down]) (kp-right . [right]) (kp-up . [up]) (kp-left . [left]) (kp-home . [home])) :NOTE Above there isn't a keymap for `0' `input-decode-map' => (keymap) :NOTE Above the difference in modifiers. /s_P\ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 14 03:50:13 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2010 07:50:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkBVN-0001kb-CQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:50:13 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkBVK-0001kW-J8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:50:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:37051) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OkBWC-0002iG-7w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:51:04 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60124 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkBWA-0008Ga-Jp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:51:03 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkBW9-0003Nz-61 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:51:02 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:64908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkBW8-0003Np-WA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:51:01 -0400 Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so1952046pzk.0 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:51:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bXbLYgia1LqTcpSXpROGmvw826QL97E+jkZUO9L3iOM=; b=dRlGFeg+tgkS64AmVJGxyk6TISLX6HmC84Rp1PVKOzohWjGq0jS42oX/fWezzy9O5T IEQMaL0WDqysX5kxdfcbzKgH6iB7LvPjS6x8cnBPeOTi1ns8zzCNeHnURAS1ToNn9mP5 uW17xgpDnPSAm9by6Y84Ygmhwzu2Itv1NogWA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=l1yNFfWkgn3anERbTEsCCQkSilfU/9px9lWaN1b77Ej/dVPFHA+wjO6nrDWRwGqkX4 tlbfOcfwMo4Baq6VLVzEjRzwnGwZvLb+UswMZWkl2dCfnkU4q5ac15P4HCMzEQcoK8Fk CaumeiKH7BeX36/+6Yx7KdMcuQheiS6ECTqQk= Received: by 10.114.59.1 with SMTP id h1mr3010038waa.28.1281772260102; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.249.102] ([202.87.221.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k23sm6377602waf.5.2010.08.14.00.50.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C664AD3.5000903@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:50:43 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#4814: keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) On 27/10/2009 11:29 PM, MON KEY wrote: > Emacs from CVS current through 2009-10-15 is not correctly interacting > with my system - WinXP Service Pack 3. > > There is a low level conflict somewhere related to Emacs' > keyboard/server interaction with the rest of the system. > > Specifically, I am experiencing a bug wherein the application Xkeymacs > Version 3.47 :SEE (URL `http://www.cam.hi-ho.ne.jp/oishi/indexen.html') > is no longer able to recognize Emacs application/process nor can it > override Emacs system level interface w/ keyboard. You don't explain the problem you are seeing clearly, but could this be related to bug#4836? http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=4836 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 15 19:21:05 2010 Received: (at 4814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2010 23:21:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkmVl-0006NU-91 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:21:05 -0400 Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkmVh-0006Mz-Bj; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:21:02 -0400 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so2789748wwe.15 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:21:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.7.8 with SMTP id 8mr1943276weo.0.1281914518610; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.65.140 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:21:58 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fZgqREO08xkw4TywJtz7jH1lbtU Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#4814: keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 From: MON KEY To: Jason Rumney Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4814 Cc: ml@g.nevcal.com, 4814@debbugs.gnu.org, 4836@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) Hi Jason, > but could this be related to bug#4836? The short answer is: Feel free to close bug#8814 and/or fold it in with bug#4836 if this is what is needed to continue the ongoing development progress of Emacs. The long answer is: I'm not sure if the two are related, though it did occur to me when I read the bug#4836 report (filed on Fri, 30 Oct 2009 three days subsequent to the Oct 27, 2009 filing of bug#4814) that the two _may be_ related. FWIW I had assumed that they were and would eventually be folded together. This said, unfortunately (and largely due to bug#4814/4836), I am no longer using Emacs on w32 systems (or w32 systems in general)... the nature of the problem posed such serious functionality issues w/ integration of Emacs on my w32's as to render the combination useless. As such, I am not able (nor am I now willing) to re-examine the issue. If the problem is now fixed this is good to hear, if not, you will have to find other users better able to clearly describe the impact and nature of the problems made manifest by these bugs esp. given the following: > You don't explain the problem you are seeing clearly, Jason, no offense, but this is BS (and a cop out) and I take some degree of displeasure in pointing out that; - Your recent follow up to bug#4814 was not cc'd to me; - The bug report in question is now nearly 10 months old; - The nature of the bug wasn't/isn't a clearly describable problem. - The affected builds in question are now 13, 14, and 8 months old respectively; - As noted above I am not now willing/able to further troubleshoot the problem This said, I _did_ make multiple follow up reports over an extended period w/re the bug and have not until now received any further requests for additional information. Likewise, I tested multiple different builds (at least five over an eight month period) and made a cumulative report on my findings in an attempt to lend some clarity to the problem. Moreover, I did my best to indicate (and document) specifically that the problem did appear (at least to me) to involve: - 0x2ed76000 control key events; - changes in `local-function-key-map', submaps, and associated event-modifiers; - curious differences between the composition and and length of `input-decode-map'; Specifically my comparison/contrasting of this build known (by me) to pose the problem: ,---- | | - "GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) | of 2010-01-02 on PRETEST" <- FAILED | `---- with these two builds known to work as expected: ,---- | | - "Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) | of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched)" | | - "Emacs 23.1.1 of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON" | `---- This included my indication that: ,---- | | "The value 0x2ed76000 appears in my dribble-file and recent-keys | output for all ``control'' key presses." | `---- My indication that at some point a change occurred such that; ,---- | | "The value of the map: (0 . [67108896]) in `local-function-key-map' | does not seem to have been present until after 07-2009." | `---- and that this change may have impacted/affected the return values for `input-decode-map' from the Emacs builds (patched and unpatched) of circa June/July 2009 e.g. these two builds: ,---- | | "GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) | of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON" | | "In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) | of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched)" | `---- which each returned as follows for `input-decode-map': ,---- | | input-decode-map | => (keymap) | `---- whereas the 2010-01-02 build e.g.: ,---- | "GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) | of 2010-01-02 on PRETEST" `---- had this return value for `input-decode-map': ,---- | | input-decode-map | => (keymap (27 keymap (C-backspace) (C-delete)) | (C-M-backspace) (C-M-delete) (M-backspace) (M-delete)) | `---- My indication that the significant differences in the size of the `key-translation-map' from the non-functioning version of 2010-01-02 which had a length of 2 as compared with the functioning version of Summer-2009 which were considerably lager. My indication of the significant differences in both the size and structure of the sublists of `local-function-key-map'. With the non-functioning version of 2010-01-22 having a length of 66 and the functioning versions of Summer-2009 having a length of 60. And with the non-functioning version. My provision for the implicitly indicative (though apparently non-obvious) fact, that the size/structure differences of `local-function-key-map' happened to map suspiciously to the differences in length for `input-decode-map'. E.g. that the non-functioning version of 2010-01-02 (which had an `input-decode-map' length of 6) as compared with the functioning versions of Summer-2009 which had an `input-decode-map' containing the single element: (keymap). -- /s_P\ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 16 08:41:02 2010 Received: (at 4814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2010 12:41:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Okyzt-0005Zn-Fl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:41:01 -0400 Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Okyzr-0005Zg-FV for 4814@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:41:00 -0400 Received: by pwj2 with SMTP id 2so1851018pwj.3 for <4814@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 05:41:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BGrYiJ7zNPq2yN2EzM//oziv//iHvzYA5p4OE5UVCPE=; b=W76zNZvnLaK0kLRSYwdlyhK8oAIAVPNUixNg9vzuJxnZ2XnpZRFxctMv8Dlq9SLvdh n6mM065wfhLmFBxRGkqm1Fk+bd6TsGZ3U8F7L3TQCwTwpjitbjV7K07ovwjGxfqDSALW wveJt3LNqNJ6ytoA203gUlUC+8lFOoqrXOMkc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RWaK5ZhRzAmX/kQwYb3DiEW0yIh85PUk/Ll2uCbrW1mCWfKIfsPu8HnhWP3dTuaUFW O2BlkQ+HflN1T/6cOR7Ji1duWjmmLPto7fXOkkjK7pJwcGpNS7ItUrzzI4pGaswsAnJn CGCRY8OIG0uZwOAFPGRUQJaffvbOmV0EC/IX8= Received: by 10.142.169.19 with SMTP id r19mr4506757wfe.177.1281962518021; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 05:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.249.101] ([202.87.221.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm8272744wfd.3.2010.08.16.05.41.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 16 Aug 2010 05:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C69320C.4090702@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:41:48 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MON KEY Subject: Re: bug#4814: keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4814 Cc: 4814@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 16/8/2010 7:21 AM, MON KEY wrote: > You don't explain the problem you are seeing clearly, > Jason, no offense, but this is BS (and a cop out) and I take some > degree of displeasure in pointing out that; > > - Your recent follow up to bug#4814 was not cc'd to me; My apologies, I assumed the bug tracker took care of this. > - The bug report in question is now nearly 10 months old; There are bugs in the bug tracker that are much older. While it might be nice to get a quick response to everything, that isn't always the way things work in projects that rely on people volunteering their spare time to work on the project. > - The nature of the bug wasn't/isn't a clearly describable problem. Describing the symptoms you see is a good start. Without that, noone is going to waste time trying to figure out what the bug is so they can start looking at it. > Moreover, I did my best to indicate (and document) specifically that > the problem did appear (at least to me) to involve: Speculation about the possible cause of the bug is not what we need. We need to know what the symptoms are. > ,---- > | > | - "GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > | of 2010-01-02 on PRETEST"<- FAILED > | > `---- > > with these two builds known to work as expected: > > ,---- > | > | - "Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > | of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched)" > | > | - "Emacs 23.1.1 of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON" > | > `---- These are 5+ months apart. There are many more potential causes than the few you've highlighted. Since you are no longer prepared to help, we'll just have to leave this open in the hope that anyone hitting the same problem in future will be able to give us more information. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 25 13:07:43 2010 Received: (at 4814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2010 17:07:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoJRv-00017o-7U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:07:43 -0400 Received: from sandstone.cs.wisc.edu ([128.105.6.39]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoJPq-00016A-7C; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:05:34 -0400 Received: from [128.105.181.52] (hank.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.181.52]) by sandstone.cs.wisc.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o7PH6uRQ016797; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:06:56 -0500 Message-ID: <4C754DA1.5040806@cs.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:06:41 -0500 From: Evan Driscoll User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 4814@debbugs.gnu.org, 4836@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Further information on the " undefined" error w/ keypress-modifying software? X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig22BE1E94E683E449EE2DD8D1" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4814 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:07:35 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig22BE1E94E683E449EE2DD8D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just ran across a small annoyance today, and in looking for a solution ran across these two bugs. 4836 sounds like it's very closely related to what I'm seeing, and there's some discussion about how it relates to 4814, so here goes. Brief description: Using Emacs >=3D23 with AllChars causes an error message " is undefined" to appear when entering a compose key sequence. How I did caused the bug to surface: - Install AllChars (http://sourceforge.net/projects/allchars/). This is a program that gives Windows a compose key feature. - Install Emacs >=3D23. - Start AllChars with the default configuration, start Emacs. - Try to use a compose-key sequence, e.g. ' / o' or ' ` a'. (By default, is , but I tried another option or two.) Symptoms: - In Emacs 22.3, the composed character (=F8 or =E0) shows up as expected - In Emacs 23.1 and 23.2, as well as CVS Emacs distributed at ntemacs.sourceforge.net, an error in the minibuffer is displayed: " is undefined" Hopefully this'll help. Evan Driscoll --------------enig22BE1E94E683E449EE2DD8D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMdU2hAAoJEAOzoR8eZTzgHWgIAJ2FUficMHlJLFsERgDmWS/r VpiXZlhhkI3OhJYTtFQKm05PZ3etYBjetFPoWvxFZ5lsYccYNVTb0nLb91n573I1 Lx3Ib9H1N+7zvHigrQj+NHoFuA5MBJ+Es7HyB1dc/umwEUDX+Z7QGaXZWzc/ko0z ApTYphu43Z6L3H7l6Q/TSyjY75m0ihlIZ9zacKHtHR8BC7f8B0Ft7QUgoTyQszzR xxRwVQP3cFgMdCOKDiFMBzrqCtzmIcSdgKPExi7JMb9RaxABcYp68Jut27n8l2IM qPVSbWWs0aB5kNfUCIfkUwfm1ilaEPZKbw1FtCDAf2ERK9DhrkJdOw+CHmOrmyI= =mdJc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig22BE1E94E683E449EE2DD8D1-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 06 01:01:19 2019 Received: (at 4814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2019 05:01:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45477 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iGyfX-0003xO-FM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 01:01:19 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f196.google.com ([209.85.210.196]:38224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iGyfV-0003x5-07 for 4814@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 01:01:18 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f196.google.com with SMTP id h195so6394604pfe.5 for <4814@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 22:01:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rh28gjtQ/Yy/pYOukVS9HqLDCprAXHOrr3SIrjLuIAM=; b=RySbxKpPwYlpiEPz05qLTUADxS5V23SSvCbHRjtcWLDM4cP7Kwvc5xRfEu767RFoTR L3uN62t/zo14mbC5QFK3SsIXfV1CfTJ5seMDMr8Hkac9j27tHqs0noOaUbFrr4T3kKik m6cZhFuASM02I2NiBLMV2P60jiLXncyFrp/+sckI/nouX3MVgDNRpg+QFo1w9dgLfIbX 4hPMopQLYQ2Nb/BEJCS1pmgtr2/+CwgeLTo9txnxEcPXtddxwX8cIMstbCHhzyxYNX5L sY+u/bXtRAGoqiyZwUJteEBdn4prvfoAUaQrJA8ZTa4wNUoHqrNciw7O4UXLArjm+BqS XybQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXqFFqPKtYv/bJWEfz/tss+Oq7EJyx4v/u49e0yJEZ/CM02q1HU qjv7Dww6DDTMuUZjOzjOUkg6KiOc5Vr40AH6P5FGcE+s X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw63+MxOVwshkAUOpyWHPBdp4Y5DVW84abPZwyDOS5+IATd6zRLRXBc5SL3pUhefMB9xDj0sxv/bMt5GnqcnoE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:1150:: with SMTP id d16mr26880635pje.2.1570338071190; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 22:01:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 07:01:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#4814: keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 To: MON KEY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4814 Cc: 4814@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) MON KEY writes: > Emacs from CVS current through 2009-10-15 is not correctly interacting > with my system - WinXP Service Pack 3. > > There is a low level conflict somewhere related to Emacs' > keyboard/server interaction with the rest of the system. > > Specifically, I am experiencing a bug wherein the application Xkeymacs > Version 3.47 :SEE (URL `http://www.cam.hi-ho.ne.jp/oishi/indexen.html') > is no longer able to recognize Emacs application/process nor can it > override Emacs system level interface w/ keyboard. > > The current failure has not occurred with _any_ previous Emacs > distributions/builds in the past. Nor have I experienced a conflict of > this sort vis a vis Xkeymacs and _any_ other application. This is > happening on the Emacs side. Lennart and I have already verified that > the bug has been introduced by his build/compilation. > > I'm including the config data from the three separate builds - two > verified working one not-working. The only difference that I see are the > compiler and flags. These flags shouldn't affect what is happening w/re > to the way keyboard interaction is failing for the emacsen's interaction > with the rest of the system. The proof is that I have never had this > problem before w/ Emacs or _any_ other application on this machine. > > Emacs 23.1.1 of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON <- WORKS > Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched) <- WORKS > Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-10-15 on LENNART-69DE564 (unpatched) <- FAILS > Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-10-13 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched) <- FAILS This bug was reported 10 years ago. Are you still seeing this on a modern version of Emacs? Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 10 20:43:13 2019 Received: (at 4814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2019 01:43:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTyjZ-0003wi-6g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 20:43:13 -0500 Received: from host.gofardesign.uk ([208.79.239.190]:56001) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTyjW-0003wL-Uu; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 20:43:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Ka037puUBxjiWXHhACeUQd1Z0NUOLEODuYwYmosDIxU=; b=BbQrHaPQMLx7gsil1A7ZAreq9K HGPyfaU/C/g33j/DTafRvqxiW2uC7E2FwBIOcpK58tvmsWwbIc5Bs8CDjE/+qubQRCYtJjU+VbRgM jzvSqO9Hdrlk0lTMbJ32KaTy2smVE5mo7566L8cXVc36Aq4onsclXuP6QcX9p+o86z44=; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:41938 helo=localhost) by host.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iTyjL-0003s4-4S; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 19:42:59 -0600 From: Stefan Kangas To: Evan Driscoll Subject: Re: bug#4814: Further information on the " undefined" error w/ keypress-modifying software? In-Reply-To: <4C754DA1.5040806@cs.wisc.edu> (Evan Driscoll's message of "Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:06:41 -0500") References: <4C754DA1.5040806@cs.wisc.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 02:42:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87o8xjrxwf.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: host.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4814 Cc: 4814@debbugs.gnu.org, 4836@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Evan Driscoll writes: > I just ran across a small annoyance today, and in looking for a solution > ran across these two bugs. 4836 sounds like it's very closely related to > what I'm seeing, and there's some discussion about how it relates to > 4814, so here goes. > > > Brief description: > Using Emacs >=3D23 with AllChars causes an error message " > is undefined" to appear when entering a compose key sequence. > > > How I did caused the bug to surface: > > - Install AllChars (http://sourceforge.net/projects/allchars/). > This is a program that gives Windows a compose key feature. > - Install Emacs >=3D23. > - Start AllChars with the default configuration, start Emacs. > - Try to use a compose-key sequence, e.g. ' / o' or > ' ` a'. (By default, is , but I tried > another option or two.) > > > Symptoms: > > - In Emacs 22.3, the composed character (=C3=B8 or =C3=A0) shows up as > expected > - In Emacs 23.1 and 23.2, as well as CVS Emacs distributed at > ntemacs.sourceforge.net, an error in the minibuffer is > displayed: " is undefined" > > Hopefully this'll help. > > Evan Driscoll This was reported 10 years ago. Are you still seeing this on a modern version of Emacs? Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 15 15:20:23 2019 Received: (at 4814-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2019 20:20:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1igaNL-0003kU-Kf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 15:20:23 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:44840) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1igaNJ-0003kH-Uh for 4814-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 15:20:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aNh+BMP790zQNdnoypYRqmbYVSsLV4tbujgjLKSHTvE=; b=ZfQKP+X9ucrrgI3isfJN9TZPJX VbIQ7mfI2t7Ix5mVgDnwjmFOngKrngPXiE9zgPDbI6FLKtZ4YOXFxkr74BmU3EVNr27fEUY1TT1eu iTAx7qxd8U45RuNpXzowJDZx5grVUFNGdPoyQbHi5gX4yMvoaB/sGlcKFICdwukQ6ghtOxofnCXbS tsCPch9w/c8K/kRFzECPA6mNjNN8CicXI5Uf9c1qF8Y+GUdpwBXlsG1LjTgDO/IZTeOvvw5HIvkU0 jAQs/2U0LJmWtiG2O1ycAbrtiejirk1060EYN/1e5hHdBREJkDOuiuZxVaqQCQ2EWIHwJH0dmQa5v SNhxKuHQ==; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:52486 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1igaND-000O8e-Gy; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 15:20:15 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas To: MON KEY Subject: Re: bug#4814: keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 6 Oct 2019 07:01:00 +0200") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 21:20:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87pngpe3y9.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4814-done Cc: 4814-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: > MON KEY writes: > >> Emacs from CVS current through 2009-10-15 is not correctly interacting >> with my system - WinXP Service Pack 3. >> >> There is a low level conflict somewhere related to Emacs' >> keyboard/server interaction with the rest of the system. >> >> Specifically, I am experiencing a bug wherein the application Xkeymacs >> Version 3.47 :SEE (URL `http://www.cam.hi-ho.ne.jp/oishi/indexen.html') >> is no longer able to recognize Emacs application/process nor can it >> override Emacs system level interface w/ keyboard. >> >> The current failure has not occurred with _any_ previous Emacs >> distributions/builds in the past. Nor have I experienced a conflict of >> this sort vis a vis Xkeymacs and _any_ other application. This is >> happening on the Emacs side. Lennart and I have already verified that >> the bug has been introduced by his build/compilation. >> >> I'm including the config data from the three separate builds - two >> verified working one not-working. The only difference that I see are the >> compiler and flags. These flags shouldn't affect what is happening w/re >> to the way keyboard interaction is failing for the emacsen's interaction >> with the rest of the system. The proof is that I have never had this >> problem before w/ Emacs or _any_ other application on this machine. >> >> Emacs 23.1.1 of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON <- WORKS >> Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched) <- WORKS >> Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-10-15 on LENNART-69DE564 (unpatched) <- FAILS >> Emacs 23.1.50.1 of 2009-10-13 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched) <- FAILS > > This bug was reported 10 years ago. Are you still seeing this on a > modern version of Emacs? More information was requested, but none was given within 11 weeks, so I'm closing this bug. If this is still an issue, please reply to this email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we can reopen the bug report. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Fri Aug 15 02:04:49 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator