From unknown Sat Aug 16 00:34:36 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#47806 <47806@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#47806 <47806@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `environment` parameter into the new frame Reply-To: bug#47806 <47806@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 07:34:36 +0000 retitle 47806 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `enviro= nment` parameter into the new frame reassign 47806 emacs submitter 47806 Thibault Polge severity 47806 normal tag 47806 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 14:29:14 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 18:29:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39168 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX6jp-0000Lo-6e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 14:29:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX6jn-0000Lg-Fg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 14:29:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lX6jn-0003hR-6b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 14:29:11 -0400 Received: from 4.mo3.mail-out.ovh.net ([178.33.46.10]:33289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lX6jk-0003Gl-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 14:29:10 -0400 Received: from player798.ha.ovh.net (unknown [10.108.20.204]) by mo3.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19035285850 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thb.lt (lfbn-idf3-1-671-78.w86-252.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.252.240.78]) (Authenticated sender: thibault@thb.lt) by player798.ha.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C1771D3D887D for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: garm.ovh; auth=pass (GARM-105G00653afe0c4-7495-49d7-a23e-37d811962108, 8127DD0FE29B0B358ABE5681D102921DC21EF8EB) smtp.auth=thibault@thb.lt X-OVh-ClientIp: 86.252.240.78 From: Thibault Polge To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `environment` parameter into the new frame Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:28:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87k0p39zbo.fsf@thb.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 9650651051786488075 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudelfedgudeftdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjpdevjffgvefmvefgnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucehtddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddttdenucfhrhhomhepvfhhihgsrghulhhtucfrohhlghgvuceothhhihgsrghulhhtsehthhgsrdhltheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieekgfeuvdehkeegjefgffekiefgffekhfetvdejjedvhfejueetleehvedvhfeunecukfhppedtrddtrddtrddtpdekiedrvdehvddrvdegtddrjeeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpqdhouhhtpdhhvghlohepphhlrgihvghrjeelkedrhhgrrdhovhhhrdhnvghtpdhinhgvtheptddrtddrtddrtddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehthhhisggruhhlthesthhhsgdrlhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepsghughdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrgh Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.33.46.10; envelope-from=thibault@thb.lt; helo=4.mo3.mail-out.ovh.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hello, Frames created by `emacsclient` get a copy of the caller's environment variables in the `environment` frame property. But frames created from other frames (with C-x 5 2, `make-frame`, `make-frame-command`, and so on) don't get a copy of those variables (they don't have an `environment` frame parameter at all). I believe they should. My use case is talking to the WM, and without this parameter I believe it's impossible to distinguish between, eg, frames managed by different X servers on the same daemon. FWIW, I'm running Emacs from revision 738266240dc1a19911770bf676330aa72352da79 (from April 6th) built with the Lucid toolkit. Best regards, Thibault From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 15:09:02 2021 Received: (at 47806) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 19:09:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39243 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX7ML-0001Nn-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:09:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49710) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX7MJ-0001NW-Si for 47806@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:09:00 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42840) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lX7MB-0000Ye-GV; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:08:52 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3862 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lX7M6-0008EP-SY; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:08:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 22:08:38 +0300 Message-Id: <838s5jxt55.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Thibault Polge In-Reply-To: <87k0p39zbo.fsf@thb.lt> (message from Thibault Polge on Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:28:59 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#47806: 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `environment` parameter into the new frame References: <87k0p39zbo.fsf@thb.lt> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47806 Cc: 47806@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Thibault Polge > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:28:59 +0200 > > Frames created by `emacsclient` get a copy of the caller's environment > variables in the `environment` frame property. But frames created from > other frames (with C-x 5 2, `make-frame`, `make-frame-command`, and so > on) don't get a copy of those variables (they don't have an > `environment` frame parameter at all). I believe they should. How do we know whether a particular frame should or shouldn't have the 'environment' frame parameter? When the frame is created by the server on behalf of a client, we know. But for a random frame-creation function, how do we know? > My use case is talking to the WM, and without this parameter I believe > it's impossible to distinguish between, eg, frames managed by different > X servers on the same daemon. Doesn't the 'display' parameter fit the bill? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 15:47:11 2021 Received: (at 47806) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 19:47:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39293 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX7xG-00046M-VB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:47:11 -0400 Received: from 1.mo69.mail-out.ovh.net ([178.33.251.173]:33091) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX7xE-00043L-KV for 47806@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:47:10 -0400 Received: from player762.ha.ovh.net (unknown [10.110.115.215]) by mo69.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCDFB5654 for <47806@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 21:47:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thb.lt (lfbn-idf3-1-671-78.w86-252.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.252.240.78]) (Authenticated sender: thibault@thb.lt) by player762.ha.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91CF21D25B027; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: garm.ovh; auth=pass (GARM-100R003deab95d1-b974-4494-a81a-fc8f4991014c, 8127DD0FE29B0B358ABE5681D102921DC21EF8EB) smtp.auth=thibault@thb.lt X-OVh-ClientIp: 86.252.240.78 From: Thibault Polge To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#47806: 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `environment` parameter into the new frame In-Reply-To: <838s5jxt55.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k0p39zbo.fsf@thb.lt> <838s5jxt55.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 21:47:01 +0200 Message-ID: <877dl3ib4a.fsf@thb.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 10969079845033658803 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudelfedgudegiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjpdevjffgvefmvefgnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucehtddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffujghffffkgggtsehttdertddttddtnecuhfhrohhmpefvhhhisggruhhlthcurfholhhgvgcuoehthhhisggruhhlthesthhhsgdrlhhtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeefudduvddvudduuddvvdejfefhlefguedtvdfgjefhgeetieehhfeigfevffdvffenucfkpheptddrtddrtddrtddpkeeirddvhedvrddvgedtrdejkeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdqohhuthdphhgvlhhopehplhgrhigvrhejiedvrdhhrgdrohhvhhdrnhgvthdpihhnvghtpedtrddtrddtrddtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepthhhihgsrghulhhtsehthhgsrdhlthdprhgtphhtthhopeegjeektdeiseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47806 Cc: 47806@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Doesn't the 'display' parameter fit the bill? Not on Wayland, I'm afraid. I believe all the XWayland instances will have the same value for `display`, which may be a non-usable value. I'm also not sure that we can go from `display` to the Wayland server. (As an example, in my case, what I actually need is `SWAYSOCK`). > How do we know whether a particular frame should or shouldn't have the > 'environment' frame parameter? When the frame is created by the > server on behalf of a client, we know. But for a random > frame-creation function, how do we know? That's a tricky question. In my understanding, it makes sense in an ancestor/child relationship: if the ancestor of FRAME has some distinct set of environment variables, we copy them to the new frame. I'm not too clear on the various execution contexts of Emacs Lisp, but couldn't something similar to: (when (called-interactively-p) ; I assume this implies there's a frame ; this is being called "from". (set-frame-property TARGET 'environment (frame-property SOURCE 'environment'))) To clarify all my assumptions, I understand that the `environment` property exists because frames of the same daemon or server can appear in very different environments, like multiple X or Wayland servers, terminals, remote sessions, and so on. If my understanding is correct, it makes sense that further frames share these values, even when not created directly from `emacsclient`. Best regards, Thibault From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 15:54:45 2021 Received: (at 47806) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 19:54:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39300 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX84a-0004cE-Ql for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:54:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX84V-0004bq-No for 47806@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:54:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lX84P-00014c-TI; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:54:33 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2712 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lX84P-0000Xh-8r; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:54:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 22:54:27 +0300 Message-Id: <835z0nxr0s.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Thibault Polge In-Reply-To: <877dl3ib4a.fsf@thb.lt> (message from Thibault Polge on Thu, 15 Apr 2021 21:47:01 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#47806: 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `environment` parameter into the new frame References: <87k0p39zbo.fsf@thb.lt> <838s5jxt55.fsf@gnu.org> <877dl3ib4a.fsf@thb.lt> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47806 Cc: 47806@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Thibault Polge > Cc: 47806@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 21:47:01 +0200 > > > Doesn't the 'display' parameter fit the bill? > > Not on Wayland, I'm afraid. I believe all the XWayland instances will > have the same value for `display`, which may be a non-usable value. I'm > also not sure that we can go from `display` to the Wayland server. (As > an example, in my case, what I actually need is `SWAYSOCK`). Are you saying that make-frame-on-display works differently under Wayland? > > How do we know whether a particular frame should or shouldn't have the > > 'environment' frame parameter? When the frame is created by the > > server on behalf of a client, we know. But for a random > > frame-creation function, how do we know? > > That's a tricky question. In my understanding, it makes sense in an > ancestor/child relationship: if the ancestor of FRAME has some distinct > set of environment variables, we copy them to the new frame. What is the "ancestor frame"? We don't have such relationships between frames. And if you mean the frame that was the selected on when the other frame was created, I'm not sure I agree that this is an indication of whether environment should be copied. But let's hear what others think about this. > To clarify all my assumptions, I understand that the `environment` > property exists because frames of the same daemon or server can appear > in very different environments, like multiple X or Wayland servers, > terminals, remote sessions, and so on. No, it's because starting a client frame is supposed to be similar to starting an Emacs from the same terminal. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 18:28:09 2021 Received: (at 47806) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 22:28:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39471 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXAT2-00046H-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:28:09 -0400 Received: from 3.mo178.mail-out.ovh.net ([46.105.44.197]:51439) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXAT0-000468-UH for 47806@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:28:07 -0400 Received: from player735.ha.ovh.net (unknown [10.108.4.73]) by mo178.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C40CB8A2 for <47806@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 00:28:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thb.lt (lfbn-idf3-1-671-78.w86-252.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.252.240.78]) (Authenticated sender: thibault@thb.lt) by player735.ha.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1D8B1CE9B6E1; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 22:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: garm.ovh; auth=pass (GARM-96R00196d071f6-264d-4d1c-8162-5e179c6b5658, 836A100A063FC8CC43F82078C8D23980AB49F331) smtp.auth=thibault@thb.lt X-OVh-ClientIp: 86.252.240.78 From: Thibault Polge To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#47806: 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `environment` parameter into the new frame In-Reply-To: <835z0nxr0s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k0p39zbo.fsf@thb.lt> <838s5jxt55.fsf@gnu.org> <877dl3ib4a.fsf@thb.lt> <835z0nxr0s.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 00:27:59 +0200 Message-ID: <871rbbi3o0.fsf@thb.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 13687565171754518963 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudelgedguddtucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfdpvefjgfevmfevgfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecuhedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufgjfhffkfggtgesthdtredttddttdenucfhrhhomhepvfhhihgsrghulhhtucfrohhlghgvuceothhhihgsrghulhhtsehthhgsrdhltheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepfeduuddvvdduudduvddvjeefhfelgfeutddvgfejhfegteeihefhiefgveffvdffnecukfhppedtrddtrddtrddtpdekiedrvdehvddrvdegtddrjeeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpqdhouhhtpdhhvghlohepphhlrgihvghrjeefhedrhhgrrdhovhhhrdhnvghtpdhinhgvtheptddrtddrtddrtddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehthhhisggruhhlthesthhhsgdrlhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepgeejkedtieesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrgh X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47806 Cc: 47806@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Are you saying that make-frame-on-display works differently under > Wayland? AFAIK Emacs doesn't support Wayland yet (unless there's been work to that end with GTK3?). To show X programs, Wayland environments rely on XWayland, an X server that runs as a Wayland program. I this don't believe that `make-frame-on-display` does anything different on Wayland, but I suspect, to the contrary, that it's fully unaware that it's not on a "real" X server. Or, maybe more accurately, that it has no access to the underlying Wayland system, which I'm trying to reach. > What is the "ancestor frame"? We don't have such relationships > between frames. And if you mean the frame that was the selected on > when the other frame was created, I'm not sure I agree that this is an > indication of whether environment should be copied. Yes, that's roughly what I meant by "ancestor". I'd argue to the contrary that this is a very good indication: those two frames run are related, they should share their environment instead of the daemon's. But perhaps my understanding of the problem is biased by my WM issues. I meant something just a bit stronger than "was the selection", though. In my idea, a new frame should inherit the selected frame's environment if and only if it's being created by an interactive command call. This excludes, for example, frames created from idle timers, or through a process filter or a sentinel. This is because, IIUC, interactive commands need to be called from a frame, so there's really a nonambiguous "parent" there. > No, it's because starting a client frame is supposed to be similar to > starting an Emacs from the same terminal. Thank you for that clarification. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 16 02:05:59 2021 Received: (at 47806) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2021 06:05:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39911 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXHc7-0000se-08 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 02:05:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52492) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXHc4-0000sR-Hl for 47806@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 02:05:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lXHby-0007Xn-UT; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 02:05:50 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4163 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lXHby-00081A-7l; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 02:05:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 09:05:45 +0300 Message-Id: <831rbaydae.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Thibault Polge In-Reply-To: <871rbbi3o0.fsf@thb.lt> (message from Thibault Polge on Fri, 16 Apr 2021 00:27:59 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#47806: 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `environment` parameter into the new frame References: <87k0p39zbo.fsf@thb.lt> <838s5jxt55.fsf@gnu.org> <877dl3ib4a.fsf@thb.lt> <835z0nxr0s.fsf@gnu.org> <871rbbi3o0.fsf@thb.lt> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47806 Cc: 47806@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Thibault Polge > Cc: 47806@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 00:27:59 +0200 > > > What is the "ancestor frame"? We don't have such relationships > > between frames. And if you mean the frame that was the selected on > > when the other frame was created, I'm not sure I agree that this is an > > indication of whether environment should be copied. > > Yes, that's roughly what I meant by "ancestor". I'd argue to the > contrary that this is a very good indication: those two frames run are > related, they should share their environment instead of the daemon's. > But perhaps my understanding of the problem is biased by my WM issues. > > I meant something just a bit stronger than "was the selection", though. > In my idea, a new frame should inherit the selected frame's environment > if and only if it's being created by an interactive command call. This > excludes, for example, frames created from idle timers, or through a > process filter or a sentinel. This is because, IIUC, interactive > commands need to be called from a frame, so there's really a > nonambiguous "parent" there. I don't think I agree. Interactive invocation could have several layers before it comes to the frame-creation function. For example, I could imagine a command that eventually does (with-selected-frame FRAME (make-frame ...)) IOW, the frame that is the selected one when a command is invoked is a very weak indication of any "parent-child" relationship. I don't think we have anything like that anywhere else in Emacs, except with child frames. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 29 07:10:11 2022 Received: (at 47806) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2022 11:10:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o6VaF-0004zm-8v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 07:10:11 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:58844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o6VaD-0004zF-KA for 47806@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 07:10:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RQVSAHr2qJPZDkG2GG1El+KLcW8k0mt20EGYH7M8yn8=; b=Rpap6pdGK/ZhZHueXJNxwNQCMv ScFbVlYWaO6iHoW95LmzJjQw16gckkU4mnio/tFpepvE2q6D4ezje6ZSlwrqYtxsJp2HAustDb4PI XDwvS9mXiq3P3Kie7PcwT/WTi16b+rAD1jnngUgatuI2zd5RJ4uXcNTprFxP2X7Jv8A4=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o6Va4-0006sa-KJ; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 13:10:03 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Thibault Polge Subject: Re: bug#47806: 28.0.50; `make-frame` frame should probably clone the `environment` parameter into the new frame In-Reply-To: <871rbbi3o0.fsf@thb.lt> (Thibault Polge's message of "Fri, 16 Apr 2021 00:27:59 +0200") References: <87k0p39zbo.fsf@thb.lt> <838s5jxt55.fsf@gnu.org> <877dl3ib4a.fsf@thb.lt> <835z0nxr0s.fsf@gnu.org> <871rbbi3o0.fsf@thb.lt> X-Now-Playing: Anna B Savage's _A Common Turn_: "BedStuy" Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 13:10:00 +0200 Message-ID: <877d4ziv3r.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Thibault Polge writes: >> Are you saying that make-frame-on-display works differently under >> Wayland? > > AFAIK Emacs doesn't support Wayland yet (unless there's been work to > that end with GTK3?). To show X programs, Wa [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47806 Cc: 47806@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Thibault Polge writes: >> Are you saying that make-frame-on-display works differently under >> Wayland? > > AFAIK Emacs doesn't support Wayland yet (unless there's been work to > that end with GTK3?). To show X programs, Wayland environments rely on > XWayland, an X server that runs as a Wayland program. 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I believe native Wayland support will make this issue irrelevant. 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