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Avoid system freezes by using earlyoom (with D-Bus notifications)

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From: bo0od <bo0od <at> riseup.net>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw <at> netris.org>, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me <at> tobias.gr>
Cc: 47717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#47717: guix outrageously exhaust itself (freeze) when there is package build failure
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 03:08:08 +0000

> Many people are happily using it, and are quite enthusiastic about it,
> so evidently it's "usable".  That doesn't imply that it's good for
> everyone.  Perhaps you would prefer a more traditional distro, or one
> that has had more time to mature.  If so, that's okay.

I can say that on almost any dying distro like slackware or so. But we 
need to overcome the issues which are leading to dead projects/distros.

The above issue is one of them if left without solution.

Mark H Weaver:
> bo0od <bo0od <at> riseup.net> writes:
> 
>>   > I mean the ‘outrageously’ part.  When Linux runs out of memory, it
>>   > freezes up.  Moral judgment is futile.  Better to adopt raingloom's
>>   > earlyoom suggestion or similar.
>>
>> Im using default guix system nothing special, If this package usable to
>> solve these stuff i suggest then to include it by default.
> 
> 'earlyoom' behavior is not necessarily desirable.  I, for one, have a
> fairly old computer by today's standards, and sometimes I ask it to do
> intensive things that are at the edge of its capabilities, such as
> compiling GNU IceCat.  An aggressive 'earlyoom' might prematurely abort
> jobs that could have completed, and thereby make it impossible for me to
> continue using this old computer for development.
> 
> With that in mind, it's far from clear that 'earlyoom' should be our
> default behavior.  It's good to have it as an option, though.
> 
>>   > 4 GiB is absolutely not enough to build an outrageous amount of ‘modern’
>>   > software, especially in parallel (so not using --cores=1 --max-jobs=1)
>>   > to make use of those expensive cores.
>>   >
>>   > I'm disgusted too.
>>
>> Yes it is, But you know this cant be a way of life with guix for end
>> user no? Something by default should solve this matter otherwise this is
>> not usable distro.
> 
> Many people are happily using it, and are quite enthusiastic about it,
> so evidently it's "usable".  That doesn't imply that it's good for
> everyone.  Perhaps you would prefer a more traditional distro, or one
> that has had more time to mature.  If so, that's okay.
> 
>        Regards,
>          Mark
> 

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