From unknown Wed Sep 10 10:33:24 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#47660 <47660@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#47660 <47660@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Add link to the ticket when someone reply Reply-To: bug#47660 <47660@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 17:33:24 +0000 retitle 47660 Add link to the ticket when someone reply reassign 47660 guix submitter 47660 bo0od severity 47660 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 08 13:39:17 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Apr 2021 17:39:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48145 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lUYcf-0003LK-IE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:39:17 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54304) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lUYce-0003LC-28 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:39:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUYca-0008QD-Tj for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:39:13 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:52574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUYcY-0005UY-1d for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:39:12 -0400 Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FGT5l21MszDxs3 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1617903547; bh=9sMomxiWJfiOq1f1aUXAcJYkv/ibP6DlSDv09VYxK5M=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=jERNWMHTkzkGyC9/7bOYS/IRD1163Wo4iJE0eHMzZp+iXR63VDmCY6JUjKI8FM4Gb 814KjGzyOk9LkhSufjP6szfBLIbTJeqXUUHjPmSRAitFIfw1R3TP3k6ae4HJurrURZ iBKOlSV2AR25OBXTv6huUvLNch67UsIKr/gS8N9c= X-Riseup-User-ID: 45E8619908B052B9F5BF3F651400E5BF6AB36DDAFBC4C7CAEBAACC18D72B2F83 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FGT5h5yXDz1yBV for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-guix@gnu.org From: bo0od Subject: Add link to the ticket when someone reply Message-ID: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 17:38:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=bo0od@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hi There, When someone reply to my ticket and receive the message through email there is no URL included to the ticket, Which mean if i forgot what i have wrote before then i need to go and see what was the conversation by using ticket title in gnu bug which not nice. Please add URL of the ticket always to the bottom. ThX! From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 08 14:45:54 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Apr 2021 18:45:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48317 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lUZf7-0005Do-Ih for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 14:45:53 -0400 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:49927) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lUZf1-0005DY-UH for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 14:45:51 -0400 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879875C00BD; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 08 Apr 2021 14:45:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=WWtDEeC2+qNS6owr5Og1m47h 26HkjW+bGFVRSUKhoQY=; b=yoHG6Wd0p3QNcJ7ppXaOZhkm/ntxTnor8+Nmnknc SR/cq7X9oX8e9XPIeE37vodMVh5f8SlYx3bOjku7ViYQxRdfVUcitJ/EvSpdi6Pl XCkFJYbDHlhtsEYOEVED0UuLYb3cj0efXnx/9nFDMYsTOOfjEpvVL1H58qaHYFAD I7c= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=WWtDEe C2+qNS6owr5Og1m47h26HkjW+bGFVRSUKhoQY=; b=NIL+xGwOdAK+1Xx2djHUvG qcXHM7A0eJBhCkVXQx0mg4uy1hgjDer7RMPbIae8fdqt3QNSYX9HJRGdNlOSLhnC +ODpEzGhyj4WDVhKa3289M9QDJP/f0pjHNXxIxHT0YHzkd8YY6AhHl6Hu+r8KxJI EQd3f+dLS1Doh1MaiVDqrn7SUHgpMG6aSmCLW2CVoGs06SxWm+a/KbSBSmidi34n 86IRMQORtHgKm9Ic32bQroO/zKeozKaH4IdJjT+R9uv2J9iYKYC4iQi7nNmlBfiI 9lDR1896Vtdc9AU0n71eTyo1aODSmVZss309gvMh8jKUX3volkshjlucjDzec2Og == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudejledgudefudcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehttd ertddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefnvghoucfhrghmuhhlrghrihcuoehlvghosehfrghmuhhl rghrihdrnhgrmhgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvvddugefffeeitddthfefvdeuhf fgkeeikeegkeevteeghfeftefggeeuudffieenucffohhmrghinhepghhnuhdrohhrghen ucfkphepuddttddruddurdduieelrdduudeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenuc frrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvg X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [100.11.169.118]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0E467108005F; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:45:39 -0400 From: Leo Famulari To: bo0od Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply Message-ID: References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: 47660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 05:38:59PM +0000, bo0od wrote: > Hi There, > > When someone reply to my ticket and receive the message through email there > is no URL included to the ticket, Which mean if i forgot what i have wrote > before then i need to go and see what was the conversation by using ticket > title in gnu bug which not nice. > > Please add URL of the ticket always to the bottom. If you find yourself forgetting, you can use the bug number. The bug number is in the email address and the subject line, and you can use it like this: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/47660 Does that help? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 09 16:45:31 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Apr 2021 20:45:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51037 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lUy0R-00033M-Cy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 16:45:31 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:47604) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lUy0P-000336-M8 for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 16:45:30 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FH99t4CYbzDsmQ; Fri, 9 Apr 2021 13:45:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1618001121; bh=SyOA6mW+AOoqqaL7Yzz7nQVOm8gYagBEP82iNHQMWAo=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=e1Y8NP+N7Nm2+OoZRTAh5oTz43diO4whDrtwJ73fpoPEsUhAyplZE3sLWW+OykMAu u1YJzfX5yz7IHtnlVjD6Sy58BhMrZb3KF9fMYvQUkaXMzECm+djWvMP0ZoVMCKzse6 bDmRp7gC7+6gM5GGsEHZZctLTJ0rV2WbXkWoefv8= X-Riseup-User-ID: F0F89B14C6BC5788340D337D94CF8CBE5DEF94883ED6B8FA8192952878305E03 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FH99s0kyMz5vgB; Fri, 9 Apr 2021 13:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply To: Leo Famulari References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> From: bo0od Message-ID: <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 20:44:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: 47660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) This work or i search for it also work, But we are talking making things much easier and its possible through providing the link directly to the ticket in bottom, I believe this practice followed by all major ticketing systems,platforms,projects.. So i dont understand whats the big deal having it here as well. Leo Famulari: > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 05:38:59PM +0000, bo0od wrote: >> Hi There, >> >> When someone reply to my ticket and receive the message through email there >> is no URL included to the ticket, Which mean if i forgot what i have wrote >> before then i need to go and see what was the conversation by using ticket >> title in gnu bug which not nice. >> >> Please add URL of the ticket always to the bottom. > > If you find yourself forgetting, you can use the bug number. > > The bug number is in the email address and the subject line, and you can > use it like this: > > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/47660 > > Does that help? > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 10 06:45:41 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2021 10:45:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lVB7V-0000J4-JS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 06:45:41 -0400 Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.53]:46138) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lVB7S-0000Ij-Ud for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 06:45:40 -0400 Received: from butterfly.local ([IPv6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:aaf1:9810:a0b8:a55d]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id qylc240040mfAB401ylcRT; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 12:45:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply From: Maxime Devos To: bo0od , Leo Famulari Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 12:45:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-a9O5r+rjFAUFVYOupwbJ" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r21; t=1618051537; bh=h4u0C7y7h/LTl0HCEW1o1VQkIzqH4n19+XyqugXzEGU=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=qLwZdAPiK9WB9G0A5LojCPqKGiXkcUaAkwNzoMpePbhR/yvNZPodfOeX3bIzVMJLW o8cLg+mYwAnt60TAt+XXFlXrhbgt8FeVhLib+cs6gDme4QDeR8rEkxNeLraWmNBVfu eXNVdPFWhJD5GdfKOJUA4M73Rx4n909YMaWqc/5+4E/f3B0ckDC/y4VAEOkndukfFS 9aPAHFH9nyMjbD945X0RUntAO+7yXgvoACqDLsTNld/Bb5D1jj4XwKvW7UVsIwSSsh UG6GXTffyDwNnF/mTyh4pWjBR+FEvK3z0qNNRtxaqUhVm8XYp5R3Kz33Bn7U9KwioM 2tzoUx9GUxovg== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: 47660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --=-a9O5r+rjFAUFVYOupwbJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 20:44 +0000, bo0od wrote: > This work or i search for it also work, But we are talking making things= =20 > much easier and its possible through providing the link directly to the= =20 > ticket in bottom, I believe this practice followed by all major=20 > ticketing systems,platforms,projects.. So i dont understand whats the=20 > big deal having it here as well. Mangling e-mails can cause all kinds of trouble. It would mess up git patches, break messages signed with PGP or S/MIME (does anyone here actually use S/MIME?), makes some headers used for spam detection (and more generally, detecting forged mails) invalid, which will lead to messages from the mailing list and @debbugs.gnu.org be marked as spam ... Greetings, Maxime. --=-a9O5r+rjFAUFVYOupwbJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EABYKADUWIQTB8z7iDFKP233XAR9J4+4iGRcl7gUCYHGBxhccbWF4aW1lZGV2 b3NAdGVsZW5ldC5iZQAKCRBJ4+4iGRcl7kGTAQC7B+hZeoz568SzYnh0juAAleAE 3+QMp3zZyimCqQMvbgEA3Lel7XDOuqrPHdhJDrXLBQKaW2ckfQYhGWcLcNdWnAo= =rdNr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-a9O5r+rjFAUFVYOupwbJ-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 10 10:21:08 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2021 14:21:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53002 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lVEU0-0007tX-9B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:21:08 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:34532) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lVETx-0007sg-NY for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:21:07 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FHccC02SFzDqjX; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:20:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1618064459; bh=m9HIAspBiCWh7Q5+kAUdfd4afb3E/GWAssOym8oHOio=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=JTz7kUtqPLT6VOpOC3TwTgec3rdnjRB3OVJJz/WyQ+QAmS9YkSPHBuqxPjXrElXH4 lGlwI/QaARgzHs4LiJemBFnXMd7BMJOUxlXYTfFYwcGrwOXSCo51vkURtm7owckO+h 6N2weY0RXwVwbJNLwc2j7tU9aTUq3lOAaBiI56Do= X-Riseup-User-ID: 7115EFAC0972B3817CBD86E8F8081B0FE5FE6EA7C4E9A6BCD48C8BA992FE81CA Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FHcc86ntJz5vn8; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply To: Maxime Devos , Leo Famulari References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> From: bo0od Message-ID: <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:20:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: 47660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) what are you talking about? who uses PGP/GPG for a public ticket tracking system?... gitlab,github,trac...etc all giving the ticket URL on the bottom of the message nothing with magic im suggesting here. Maxime Devos: > On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 20:44 +0000, bo0od wrote: >> This work or i search for it also work, But we are talking making things >> much easier and its possible through providing the link directly to the >> ticket in bottom, I believe this practice followed by all major >> ticketing systems,platforms,projects.. So i dont understand whats the >> big deal having it here as well. > > Mangling e-mails can cause all kinds of trouble. > > It would mess up git patches, break messages signed with PGP or S/MIME > (does anyone here actually use S/MIME?), makes some headers used for > spam detection (and more generally, detecting forged mails) invalid, > which will lead to messages from the mailing list and @debbugs.gnu.org > be marked as spam ... > > Greetings, > Maxime. > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 10 12:44:36 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2021 16:44:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53141 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lVGip-000559-O7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 12:44:36 -0400 Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.53]:54454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lVGin-00054y-An for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 12:44:34 -0400 Received: from ptr-bvsjgyjmffd7q9timvx.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be ([IPv6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:aaf1:9810:a0b8:a55d]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id r4kW2400N0mfAB4014kXuQ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 18:44:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply From: Maxime Devos To: bo0od , Leo Famulari Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 18:44:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Tx8I0Vl5x4I3nK2rurGY" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r21; t=1618073071; bh=d014agkD0rg7ZxXauxqbW+Y+va0760HUcxLnkIlwlKI=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=C+YQVL9FBnaL5GB/ABOW8o/BO3O5VOLASfFb9ynM2rJpGrKiG5opZDzjROTXlYlLN a4B97SejLd8g6UEcInT5b4U9VfIocC8BCzFgS5BPZbO72qI1Y89hPLNbzhX6kXOVMG rlu0vp5Gw19sed8J+0FSQVSGo89Jz/jmu4DXsh+VI45Kmo/bKmFOuCHX1/q5FnIn4Z bJpxXwmbBTURPvvZn6nb0W2CWNDE7pDTlD6EhbaSb0U8Kn7D2t6NjbFjMlHRbQ0EFE wal/8Ir03ixlc03ReBKeQh7opYbR+l8F8QpxmYGls0ZopjQAQhu9mRhT4OJpdYF1xO s8rFtBFto9q/g== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: 47660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --=-Tx8I0Vl5x4I3nK2rurGY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 14:20 +0000, bo0od wrote: > what are you talking about? who uses PGP/GPG for a public ticket=20 > tracking system?... I do, Chris Marusich does, L=C3=A9o Le Bouter does, Efraim Flashner does. I probably could find some more examples in my mail archive somewhere. Why shouldn't they use PGP? Signing e-mails with PGP allows the recipient to verify the e-mails actually came from the supposed sender. Remember, general discussion is done via e-mails on guix-devel@gnu.org, bug reports are done via e-mails on bug-guix@gnu.org and NNN@debbugs.gnu.or= g and patches are done via e-mails on guix-patches@gnu.org and NNN@debbugs.gn= u.org. Practical use case: * I want to test (and, if I were a committer, perhaps merge) one of the gno= me patch series (bug#47643, by Raghav Gururajan and revised by Leo Prikler). * I look over the source code changes, and don't see any obvious nefariousi= ty, but perhaps I missed something ... * I trust Leo Prikler not to introduce non-obvious nefariousity. However, e-mail is an unreliable medium, so this patch series might be mo= dified by an attacker on-route to my system (and the systems of other people) an= d the attacker might have introduced non-obious nefariousity. * I know Leo Prikler signs patch series. The attacker cannot, however, so = the attacker sends the (forged) patch series unsigned. * /me asks Leo Prikler why the patch series is unsigned. * The attacker's evil plan is foiled! Actually, IIRC, Leo Prikler does not sign patch series. It's just an examp= le! Also, regardless of whether PGP is used, the mangling messes up some header= s (DKIM, IIRC), leading to e-mails being marked as spam. IIUC, debbugs or th= e mailing list software used to mangle messages, but that is now disabled for (at least) that reason. Greetings, Maxime. --=-Tx8I0Vl5x4I3nK2rurGY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EABYKADUWIQTB8z7iDFKP233XAR9J4+4iGRcl7gUCYHHV5BccbWF4aW1lZGV2 b3NAdGVsZW5ldC5iZQAKCRBJ4+4iGRcl7icUAP0RZIMk731BNW3fkQxHxbdnADjt LGkC2AwCSRf13b5uzAD8DOhm9iSsIXsIGFd+992N/mVzfYi0DmAgYln535LP5QU= =re8d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Tx8I0Vl5x4I3nK2rurGY-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 10 16:13:39 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2021 20:13:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53373 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lVJz9-0001o5-2w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 16:13:39 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:57246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lVJz7-0001nr-9m for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 16:13:37 -0400 Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FHmQy42X3zDxX6; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:13:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1618085610; bh=FL0XRhHKsfVtL2A2XG4NAwCRuRN0kdYT7kAv4EBEwrI=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=WOCdvdPuJ1tovPjADy6dCvWeBft7/4/UmQz0mxz67q/zoBzms8r0askW7vkjncwiQ beZTjQGsGh//+jVMYd5VATWcXbP9z2sQ9ziASSBuIkTM9jZghqDcCQUyic+Gjc71cg PMEwocJMtbWpl78WjJkGMUT3Gkx0UT304dUaSXNg= X-Riseup-User-ID: A2C931E2E151E1A66D70948A8CBD2EFC43A6F5E681017286BC6B29567AC9EBF0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FHmQw2Zhjz1yBT; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply To: Maxime Devos , Leo Famulari References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> From: bo0od Message-ID: <6496319d-cde6-54bb-5bd7-64e06bf1eab2@riseup.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 20:13:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: 47660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) yeah patches provided by email is a mess, thought these stuff are done using git only since guix is rely on it so emails/tickt system just used for answering/solving issues. also thought you were talking about encrypting the messages thats why i asked who uses that. for the spam part i dont know about solution for it, but what i know for sure this is wrong/strange less useful behavior that i dont know any main project doing it. (which is not attaching link for the ticket,actually sometimes they even attach link to the reply itself within the email not just the ticket itself...). Maxime Devos: > On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 14:20 +0000, bo0od wrote: >> what are you talking about? who uses PGP/GPG for a public ticket >> tracking system?... > > I do, Chris Marusich does, Léo Le Bouter does, Efraim Flashner does. > I probably could find some more examples in my mail archive somewhere. > Why shouldn't they use PGP? Signing e-mails with PGP allows the > recipient to verify the e-mails actually came from the supposed sender. > > Remember, general discussion is done via e-mails on guix-devel@gnu.org, > bug reports are done via e-mails on bug-guix@gnu.org and NNN@debbugs.gnu.org > and patches are done via e-mails on guix-patches@gnu.org and NNN@debbugs.gnu.org. > > Practical use case: > * I want to test (and, if I were a committer, perhaps merge) one of the gnome > patch series (bug#47643, by Raghav Gururajan and revised by Leo Prikler). > * I look over the source code changes, and don't see any obvious nefariousity, > but perhaps I missed something ... > * I trust Leo Prikler not to introduce non-obvious nefariousity. > > However, e-mail is an unreliable medium, so this patch series might be modified > by an attacker on-route to my system (and the systems of other people) and the > attacker might have introduced non-obious nefariousity. > * I know Leo Prikler signs patch series. The attacker cannot, however, so the > attacker sends the (forged) patch series unsigned. > * /me asks Leo Prikler why the patch series is unsigned. > * The attacker's evil plan is foiled! > > Actually, IIRC, Leo Prikler does not sign patch series. It's just an example! > > Also, regardless of whether PGP is used, the mangling messes up some headers > (DKIM, IIRC), leading to e-mails being marked as spam. IIUC, debbugs or the > mailing list software used to mangle messages, but that is now disabled for > (at least) that reason. > > Greetings, > Maxime. > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 10:24:31 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 14:24:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38823 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX2uy-0002bg-0R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:24:31 -0400 Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:53615) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX2uv-0002bR-Tq for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:24:26 -0400 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B65B5C0180; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:24:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= bonfacemunyoki.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=fm1; bh=rbD tCvzcvpz58qlVFd4cXp7122KPKmt5h3e+Anyf6kQ=; b=XotxdNJBMjco7fMoDDj g7vgbGYv4AIwX7Qisfr9HzoSXfN6q4F6wv/rzgArg3hfp6Ht21f98Ta4wTamkGWV ZooRLwoR+abvXQcmYXRzXYyyEi/DJExYvqtJpmizHjDGCeCDN77VO7Sq3HBSEc/1 wbtfvWTbJ/41VUESpD3KI05cSOBwx+sxu3wFJxZ10pmLdj/2IgaXIdzpkXo5u3at I+snG1k2KzbqsMGoVwNeYwbv0dHfJcS+deJs0Zr0jWdo4dS6yum+zQVFP4loG1UR /u9XHheuD4Oofqx0jczDD5Wh7mooeWfJeKf7V1JHWuRwiPehUKqgPYDMFq6wp6jI I0A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=rbDtCv zcvpz58qlVFd4cXp7122KPKmt5h3e+Anyf6kQ=; b=YpllqmyRSNk3fgluyHONiB 9/Rp85oj+m3Hd66D0pS7yc/X85aoSZ6emoGrsY3BCN2+SlZC0H+VsMWa0PZxC7Tx m0ZoQFJePKeD6Id6Q9kgaNILxf61xd1tMpiueJeHqwMrUg6oJLd/gRGKSws24oJ3 25/gmlrRKduK6bX9p/XRN+yk1k/XIhU+THo0+EFm+orAFfFmweuQOqcWw/Mp09CZ Uqiu3mKrDs+mkBbOImyC6OpXcj4QcFZi49yF/J9RLt2VaLllaiAVZT8CgHFeedlP sNeCNgY7yc3Cb2V1fCi09QFvvLIvlxLImvrPmXXiKE1FhXhLKv6AQX7VY5V55jVA == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudelfedgkedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvufhfffgjkfgfgggtsehgtderredtredtnecuhfhrohhmpeeuohhnfhgr tggvucfouhhnhihokhhiucfmrdcuoehmvgessghonhhfrggtvghmuhhnhihokhhirdgtoh hmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvleefhfehgfdufeeiteeileehgefghfelveegtdej feeugfdtkeeifeevkedvgeenucffohhmrghinhepghhithhhuhgsrdgtohhmpdhgnhhurd horhhgpdhuphgsohhokhgtlhhusgdrtghomhenucfkphepudeliedrvdduiedrjedtrddu jedtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmh gvsegsohhnfhgrtggvmhhunhihohhkihdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Received: from susa (unknown [196.216.70.170]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 54F0A240054; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:24:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bonface Munyoki K. To: bo0od Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:24:07 +0300 In-Reply-To: <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> (bo0od@riseup.net's message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:20:52 +0000") Message-ID: <86im4nmxrs.fsf@bonfacemunyoki.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: Maxime Devos , 47660@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Famulari X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bo0od writes: > what are you talking about? who uses PGP/GPG for > a public ticket tracking system?... > I do. I sign my e-mails as a guarantee to my recipients that what you get is truly from me. That plus my mail client makes that-- signing emails-- way easy to do. I also sign all my commits, even on the major platforms. FWIW, even on GH, and GL, you could sign your emails when replying to an email, thereby having the recipients on the Cc see your pgp/ gpg signature, while GL/ GH scrapes it off when displaying it's contents. However, there are people who sign email inline. Here's one such example: https://github.com/alezost/guix.el/issues/39 PS: If you use gnus from Emacs, you should read: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/message/Signing-and-enc= ryption.html#Signing-and-encryption In my Emacs, I have: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (use-package mm-encode :config (setq mm-encrypt-option 'guided) (setq mm-sign-option 'guided)) (use-package mml-sec :config (setq mml-secure-openpgp-encrypt-to-self t) (setq mml-secure-openpgp-sign-with-sender t) (setq mml-secure-smime-encrypt-to-self t) (setq mml-secure-smime-sign-with-sender t)) (use-package epa-file :config (setq epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption nil)) =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > gitlab,github,trac...etc all giving the ticket > URL on the bottom of the message nothing with > magic im suggesting here. > > Maxime Devos: >> On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 20:44 +0000, bo0od wrote: >>> This work or i search for it also work, But we >>> are talking making things much easier and its >>> possible through providing the link directly >>> to the ticket in bottom, I believe this >>> practice followed by all major ticketing >>> systems,platforms,projects.. So i dont >>> understand whats the big deal having it here >>> as well. >> Mangling e-mails can cause all kinds of >> trouble. It would mess up git patches, break >> messages signed with PGP or S/MIME (does anyone >> here actually use S/MIME?), makes some headers >> used for spam detection (and more generally, >> detecting forged mails) invalid, which will >> lead to messages from the mailing list and >> @debbugs.gnu.org be marked as spam ... >> Greetings, Maxime. >>=20 > > > > =2D-=20 Bonface M. K. D4F09EB110177E03C28E2FE1F5BBAE1E0392253F Humble GNU Emacs User / Bearer of scheme-y parens Curator: / Twitter: @BonfaceKilz --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJKBAEBCAA0FiEE1PCesRAXfgPCji/h9buuHgOSJT8FAmB4TIsWHG1lQGJvbmZh Y2VtdW55b2tpLmNvbQAKCRD1u64eA5IlP+W/D/0e87gcSzWVRKlwH7jBxBHnYaG4 l6x5B10nugEo9XC+jf0ZGhfKe6qgjrzi3bGk8KPES/ErGsG0QpX6Ttlo1AELoz2a djdGtwGIU3HwHbK3fB9jp4LGoTrBpZz2YCzYOJM7lixZhf00ZWupTirCYA1yWLHg tQUKlDE7+j2ULpoQKmgIljyfVeL+U7/geonDx/sweE654oBiZIqV8b4gowjLTUXf wexuuapYMrvACLnDHYw0AvFy9470iDdO+LVyFC6E34erIy53yhK9B8dWERuJv8+z nLRqvaEEjpJYixyAQy1EQzedNHejAXdPfknaVJP0+Q6iYxdz7rqoXQDui3/mc1lQ YniXhpPDaqogsaywBlHpXUkfs9AZAjKODra2XZ1RYz7p3a4CK0TdJVLHt/hs1opb 7yxIBo/JVT++bOEQWjdr7JYLraDIw8M3LNdg1RzQdjt9z8BB7McjWnLYxWYb+buW hPEgh+dUlEiCrLAdOjKrG90KyI4s1Oe+OjZM5TUqqp0pmKpOJqv0L17KgmuNTrFg 6NRBxD113rq0ULHQaWQOd2Dwoz434aVvK/jgqnE9hloIK5EjdRhPjH3Z6jeRByhM uBhRgFcGNIPG6BLi1yWMlVc8oh39EgtxyobFtHJvicCsx7yFsx8P4aNVQiOCYwkF xHjg4KMdBtRqTQ9FfQ== =nyvZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 13:00:33 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 17:00:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39001 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX5M0-0006Uz-SR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:00:33 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:39462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX5Lx-0006UM-KJ for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:00:30 -0400 Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FLlvc1nYxzFrVL; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:00:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1618506023; bh=pkXK+xnU3ELXAU7P37NO+un7vxgpzlGkduP9UuSH2EM=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=TigsDyC9X7f9uPTZF9+CfAvQabeFhx83Wftq7qU9coOrcHq5Kmy6VJkTygJq3mtfq z4nJRt85yqFreiBLHiDykom3/ClgUlRUwR9kCdFLBvGAcRgMQKwPkEFGh0S1OUTlsj 8EMM7VEVEKaMKWukZJ48SlF3OCMwAmKdQPF6Yy2w= X-Riseup-User-ID: 369D65E7D3284EA88B176DB6CD113F1DB3DA547E9E923F30A338390652BBD1B5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FLlvY2yzmz1yBV; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply To: "Bonface Munyoki K." References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> <86im4nmxrs.fsf@bonfacemunyoki.com> From: bo0od Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:00:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86im4nmxrs.fsf@bonfacemunyoki.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: Maxime Devos , 47660@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Famulari X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) To be honest i find this bad thing to use emails to do anything rather than online registration and not necessary stuff (means being encrypted,manipulated.. just not something important) Email sucks due to: * Messages are not encrypted by default which mean it need an extra tool to do it and commonly used is GPG/PGP + it needs tool to implement this encryption on the messages which mean mail reader/client most commonly one used is thunderbird/icedove <- This method having tremendous security issues check for example: - https://efail.de/ - https://www.whonix.org/wiki/OpenPGP#Issues_with_PGP * Most of the time (not always) heavily rely on clearnet which mean issues of TLS/DNS which needs to be hardened otherwise they are exist by names but does nothing. ..This is out of scope to discuss this in details, I just want to see the bug URL linked to the bottom of the email i receive thats it. Bonface Munyoki K.: > bo0od writes: > >> what are you talking about? who uses PGP/GPG for >> a public ticket tracking system?... >> > > I do. I sign my e-mails as a guarantee to my > recipients that what you get is truly from > me. That plus my mail client makes that-- signing > emails-- way easy to do. I also sign all my > commits, even on the major platforms. FWIW, even > on GH, and GL, you could sign your emails when > replying to an email, thereby having the > recipients on the Cc see your pgp/ gpg signature, > while GL/ GH scrapes it off when displaying it's > contents. However, there are people who sign email > inline. Here's one such example: > https://github.com/alezost/guix.el/issues/39 > > PS: If you use gnus from Emacs, you should read: > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/message/Signing-and-encryption.html#Signing-and-encryption > In my Emacs, I have: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (use-package mm-encode > :config (setq mm-encrypt-option 'guided) (setq > mm-sign-option 'guided)) > > (use-package mml-sec > :config (setq mml-secure-openpgp-encrypt-to-self > t) (setq mml-secure-openpgp-sign-with-sender t) > (setq mml-secure-smime-encrypt-to-self t) (setq > mml-secure-smime-sign-with-sender t)) > > (use-package epa-file > :config (setq > epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption > nil)) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > >> gitlab,github,trac...etc all giving the ticket >> URL on the bottom of the message nothing with >> magic im suggesting here. >> >> Maxime Devos: >>> On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 20:44 +0000, bo0od wrote: >>>> This work or i search for it also work, But we >>>> are talking making things much easier and its >>>> possible through providing the link directly >>>> to the ticket in bottom, I believe this >>>> practice followed by all major ticketing >>>> systems,platforms,projects.. So i dont >>>> understand whats the big deal having it here >>>> as well. >>> Mangling e-mails can cause all kinds of >>> trouble. It would mess up git patches, break >>> messages signed with PGP or S/MIME (does anyone >>> here actually use S/MIME?), makes some headers >>> used for spam detection (and more generally, >>> detecting forged mails) invalid, which will >>> lead to messages from the mailing list and >>> @debbugs.gnu.org be marked as spam ... >>> Greetings, Maxime. >>> >> >> >> >> > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 13:52:00 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 17:52:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX69o-0007uk-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:52:00 -0400 Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.52]:33600) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX69m-0007ub-Sh for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:51:59 -0400 Received: from ptr-bvsjgyjmffd7q9timvx.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be ([IPv6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:aaf1:9810:a0b8:a55d]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id t5rw240080mfAB4015rwSf; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:51:57 +0200 Message-ID: <41d350bee8ce1fa0d628bd9e833d6c6ced8765b8.camel@telenet.be> Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply From: Maxime Devos To: bo0od , "Bonface Munyoki K." Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:51:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> <86im4nmxrs.fsf@bonfacemunyoki.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-OYH4/kHf5g3AxWYqtWnM" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r21; t=1618509117; bh=L4DoNbOwCpSPyv/OoakU1rP7BpVLRDzw0TaF3bWRDE0=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=lwJ4PkWC1DffZiDrxoR8pHjK8j/3Ft/6K0FGPIG5p3dbqbNRR3n3hnveoDECnph+n YlVB6wmv6JSemhtZe/SNuam5yrkeOzYDezzBc4HKFHByF4igvSnbi2dd1e566q6YGa 8QS4sk5+7SsmkySvV4TK34L/ub+WJ9KyXXst7gvO+CPB60y8MV0E2KZVTuKWnaFTM+ LE2oBwOmgX1dVEd9/xXGdWO0XQY9HZdltc9dXz+LiV5KxGrNZQiFA2Mz4tAeYMI4K5 ioZah1krCPFKOHI2jczj+YDMPQgcZJyMQUJlYPYByJQf6Ja/o250vT2xhp5Ht5NtJw sMxtqAqXCiyBg== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: 47660@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Famulari X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --=-OYH4/kHf5g3AxWYqtWnM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2021-04-15 at 17:00 +0000, bo0od wrote: > To be honest i find this bad thing to use emails to do anything rather= =20 > than online registration and not necessary stuff (means being=20 > encrypted,manipulated.. just not something important) To be honest, I find it a bad thing that many projects (I'm looking at GitHub here (*)) only have a web interface, that require registration (and often have terms of service I would consider criminal). Then there are multiple web sites requiring registration that I need to keep track of. (*) Ok, GitHub has e-mail notifications. But I can't directly reply to the= m, I need to go to the web interface. At least, that was the case N years= ago. I like being able to perform all asynchronuous communication via e-mail, instead of via a dozen platforms. With e-mail, you get signing =E2=80=98fo= r free=E2=80=99, while with $PLATFORMS, you need to rely on each $PLATFORM infrastructure or resort to ... (my intepretation of your words, out of context, with encryption replaced w= ith signing) > extra tools, where you have to copy the message into the tool, let the > tool verify the signature. Or write a message into the tool, let the > tool create the signature, and copy the message+signature into the web > interface. > Email sucks due to: > * Messages are not encrypted by default which mean it need an extra tool= =20 > to do it and commonly used is GPG/PGP + it needs tool to implement this= =20 > encryption on the messages which mean mail reader/client most commonly= =20 > one used is thunderbird/icedove <- This method having tremendous=20 > security issues check for example: [...] Not relevant for our purposes. Issues are public. Only PGP for signing is relevant here. Also, PGP + Evolution works just fine for me, and evolution doesn't download external attachements by default. > * Most of the time (not always) heavily rely on clearnet which mean=20 > issues of TLS/DNS which needs to be hardened otherwise they are exist by= =20 > names but does nothing. I couldn't parse this. What does =E2=80=98they are exist by names but does= nothing=E2=80=99 mean? > ..This is out of scope to discuss this in details, I just want to see=20 > the bug URL linked to the bottom of the email i receive thats it. Guix' bug tracking software is =E2=80=98GNU Bug Tracker=E2=80=99. You coul= d ask it on that project's mailing lists. Now I see you did that already: . I don't have anything else to say on this topic; I'm not sending further re= plies. Greetings, Maxime. --=-OYH4/kHf5g3AxWYqtWnM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EABYKADUWIQTB8z7iDFKP233XAR9J4+4iGRcl7gUCYHh9HxccbWF4aW1lZGV2 b3NAdGVsZW5ldC5iZQAKCRBJ4+4iGRcl7qnkAP4hh1zs5Xk4keXwOCas83ai+5g6 2cNdNNK1p2dNKA3P8wD+IVn2EsogBmvAJ4oEAgzoibsrxklu4Bd0qRNQN6uSsgk= =y73D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-OYH4/kHf5g3AxWYqtWnM-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 22:38:35 2021 Received: (at 47660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2021 02:38:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXENP-0001hQ-9h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 22:38:35 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:39162) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXENN-0001hB-DT for 47660@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 22:38:34 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FM0kq4G4GzDq7Q; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:38:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1618540707; bh=jdGAmB6cqQeaON3jrTnO+IyZATLDJyGK/4U/1qnXz6Q=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=c/Tl+XdbjYggb/0iVG/W/zT1mmb+zEMwybSeO1FXit+cQOR88E/O9JYgK68DxFeui hBk6TLQroZwzKM0zuEAd7g3Qhv2OCEOzGmYiVLCbBqV25z/fqDVsOh5uY9xjgGpGAg CDd+yaZ1kqT1nQs4avQQu15UHSS7vl2XBf5OmCw4= X-Riseup-User-ID: 2CE89A543A7BC32A7C1E4DD700B1F392C590991F62A50C265689EBD627214433 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FM0kn3dsVz5vjL; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply To: Maxime Devos , "Bonface Munyoki K." References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> <3fb53146-829a-3829-a1b3-2828f6d03e9a@riseup.net> <86im4nmxrs.fsf@bonfacemunyoki.com> <41d350bee8ce1fa0d628bd9e833d6c6ced8765b8.camel@telenet.be> From: bo0od Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 02:38:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <41d350bee8ce1fa0d628bd9e833d6c6ced8765b8.camel@telenet.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660 Cc: 47660@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Famulari X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Not gonna go with details about email thing (not what the ticket is about), But just clarify what you asked: > I couldn't parse this. What does ‘they are exist by names but does nothing’ > mean? having TLS connection is not oh wow im secured now. TLS has versions and many other stuff like ciphers , HSTS ...etc if not all of them lined securely mean secure TLS version, secure ciphers,...etc you gonna have TLS/https just by name, but it makes no different from having it or not. Check for e.g: DEF CON 17 - Moxie Marlinspike - More Tricks for Defeating SSL https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5dhSN9aEljg So as for DNS (DNSSEC..etc). Hope this clarify the sentence. > Guix' bug tracking software is ‘GNU Bug Tracker’. You could ask it on yeah sadly just no respond (wasn't surprised) Maxime Devos: > On Thu, 2021-04-15 at 17:00 +0000, bo0od wrote: >> To be honest i find this bad thing to use emails to do anything rather >> than online registration and not necessary stuff (means being >> encrypted,manipulated.. just not something important) > > To be honest, I find it a bad thing that many projects (I'm looking at > GitHub here (*)) only have a web interface, that require registration > (and often have terms of service I would consider criminal). Then there > are multiple web sites requiring registration that I need to keep track > of. > > (*) Ok, GitHub has e-mail notifications. But I can't directly reply to them, > I need to go to the web interface. At least, that was the case N years ago. > > I like being able to perform all asynchronuous communication via e-mail, > instead of via a dozen platforms. With e-mail, you get signing ‘for free’, > while with $PLATFORMS, you need to rely on each $PLATFORM infrastructure > or resort to ... > > (my intepretation of your words, out of context, with encryption replaced with > signing) >> extra tools, where you have to copy the message into the tool, let the >> tool verify the signature. Or write a message into the tool, let the >> tool create the signature, and copy the message+signature into the web >> interface. > >> Email sucks due to: >> * Messages are not encrypted by default which mean it need an extra tool >> to do it and commonly used is GPG/PGP + it needs tool to implement this >> encryption on the messages which mean mail reader/client most commonly >> one used is thunderbird/icedove <- This method having tremendous >> security issues check for example: [...] > > Not relevant for our purposes. Issues are public. Only PGP for signing is > relevant here. Also, PGP + Evolution works just fine for me, and evolution > doesn't download external attachements by default. > >> * Most of the time (not always) heavily rely on clearnet which mean >> issues of TLS/DNS which needs to be hardened otherwise they are exist by >> names but does nothing. > > I couldn't parse this. What does ‘they are exist by names but does nothing’ > mean? > >> ..This is out of scope to discuss this in details, I just want to see >> the bug URL linked to the bottom of the email i receive thats it. > > Guix' bug tracking software is ‘GNU Bug Tracker’. You could ask it on > that project's mailing lists. 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[72.10.131.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s131-20020a37a989000000b0067d2e3c51e8sm3376270qke.58.2022.03.17.19.56.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:56:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Maxime Devos Subject: Re: bug#47660: Add link to the ticket when someone reply References: <149fbff7-889c-acc2-09d1-e79edfd29ec0@riseup.net> <3fc025b1-aa56-aec6-5c0a-80f8562f0e8e@riseup.net> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:56:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Maxime Devos's message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2021 12:45:26 +0200") Message-ID: <875yoc6kaf.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47660-done Cc: bo0od , 47660-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Famulari X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, Maxime Devos writes: > On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 20:44 +0000, bo0od wrote: >> This work or i search for it also work, But we are talking making things >> much easier and its possible through providing the link directly to the >> ticket in bottom, I believe this practice followed by all major >> ticketing systems,platforms,projects.. So i dont understand whats the >> big deal having it here as well. > > Mangling e-mails can cause all kinds of trouble. Definitely agree. This infrastructure being shared across many GNU project, such a change should also be discussed and made at the level of the GNU infrastructure rather than Guix. Thanks, Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 10:33:24 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator