From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:41:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47647: Feature request: Make guix communicate over Hidden Services Resent-From: bo0od Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 23:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 47647 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 47647@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16178382744417 (code B ref -1); Wed, 07 Apr 2021 23:32:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2021 23:31:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45508 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lUHdi-00019B-Al for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 19:31:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:36796) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lUHdh-000193-7d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 19:31:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40088) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUHdh-00067z-1Y for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 19:31:13 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:55732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUHde-0004HT-MS for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 19:31:12 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FG0yP2LGRzDq6y for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:31:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1617838269; bh=X6ku0Dmmh5gcPyuZjTE64POJ16dVTtUqvYWrVPz0Ek4=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=m5r8KWsZDl99PF3weA00qGx0Tnhyz8xgXHZDIjtXNOWiKRrCrm/3PYTBxUKgv78Bs oI4rFri7WxpnUXfbx0hg/apDnvmPlWGHiUmjZCCijKufn4AQ/zKDAFgCb9QIAAvTLl +EkqHmu2is7zGgK+GtcQ8fciKSHKl97xphqAyoQg= X-Riseup-User-ID: 0596C8253074BAF6E6B6619FE97C5C01D462341D336D56D9C149688B236F9948 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FG0yN3ZgYz5vNY for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:31:08 -0700 (PDT) From: bo0od Message-ID: <2bf8f666-b29c-b84a-ba27-ff9e379dc278@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 23:30:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=bo0od@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hi There, I hope to see guix has the ability to communicate over Tor (not TLS over Tor, but Tor-Tor (client-server), Something similar to how apt doing with apt-transport-tor https://packages.debian.org/buster/apt-transport-tor This is mitigate the security problems of clearnet DNS,TLS and so as hiding metadata (more privacy). ThX! From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:41:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47647: Feature request: Make guix communicate over Hidden Services Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 16:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47647 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: bo0od Cc: 47647@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47647-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47647.161885040511727 (code B ref 47647); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 16:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 47647) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Apr 2021 16:40:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51880 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYWwP-000335-Ca for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:40:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57846) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYWwN-00032Q-85 for 47647@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:40:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44825) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYWwH-0001Sd-Mr; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:39:57 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=47438 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lYWwH-00050E-6s; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:39:57 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <2bf8f666-b29c-b84a-ba27-ff9e379dc278@riseup.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 30 Germinal an 229 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:39:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2bf8f666-b29c-b84a-ba27-ff9e379dc278@riseup.net> (bo0od@riseup.net's message of "Wed, 7 Apr 2021 23:30:31 +0000") Message-ID: <87wnsydy90.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Hi, bo0od skribis: > I hope to see guix has the ability to communicate over Tor (not TLS > over Tor, but Tor-Tor (client-server), Something similar to how apt > doing with apt-transport-tor > https://packages.debian.org [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.51.188.92 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 2.0 PDS_TONAME_EQ_TOLOCAL_SHORT Short body with To: name matches everything in local email X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Hi, bo0od skribis: > I hope to see guix has the ability to communicate over Tor (not TLS > over Tor, but Tor-Tor (client-server), Something similar to how apt > doing with apt-transport-tor > https://packages.debian.org/buster/apt-transport-tor Check out this cookbook recipe: https://guix.gnu.org/cookbook/en/html_node/Getting-substitutes-from-Tor.h= tml HTH! 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From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:41:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47647: Feature request: Make guix communicate over Hidden Services Resent-From: bo0od Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47647 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 47647@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47647-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47647.161885602829624 (code B ref 47647); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 47647) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Apr 2021 18:13:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51997 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYYP6-0007hk-H6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:13:48 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:49576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYYP0-0007h3-Pd for 47647@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:13:47 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FPFLT24jJzDqrC; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:13:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1618856017; bh=rfDkglHvU1LFTZaOE/flbIfO9UpXVUnmOS+LNpjRSYQ=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=gz8OpnPBIbIdaa8rd+p644AtgjXF0NdKjb/pFgQtj6HovRJ9G9b+z2M13uqVBmQgp SYppIu4hlwdwl7VK3Z33MYJjXZjYqX7DQNnlhuqdxaApCMrBGIEpKH/gHawOHnYphz XODieT+lrrPgPlEQuHrA+lb0Nk/4QA5vpucRD0DY= X-Riseup-User-ID: EDBF06FE9953963DABDF2BCCE9F73622643FD35F469A0FFF21F69DD7190A30C9 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FPFLS0NPWz5w23; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:13:35 -0700 (PDT) References: <2bf8f666-b29c-b84a-ba27-ff9e379dc278@riseup.net> <87wnsydy90.fsf@gnu.org> From: bo0od Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:13:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87wnsydy90.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) Yeah not clean connection, What i meant by this feature sorry i didnt say it clearer at the the first text which is Guix main repository guix-git must be mirrored over tor hidden services then when using guix install or guix pull or ...etc is going to be all over Tor (no TLS used). This is what debian do, If i change main repositories from TLS -> Onion (apt-transport-tor pre-installed) then apt install or upgrade..etc i get everything over Tor without any leaks to clearnet/TLS. Thats what i hope to see in Guix. Ludovic Courtès: > Hi, > > bo0od skribis: > >> I hope to see guix has the ability to communicate over Tor (not TLS >> over Tor, but Tor-Tor (client-server), Something similar to how apt >> doing with apt-transport-tor >> https://packages.debian.org/buster/apt-transport-tor > > Check out this cookbook recipe: > > https://guix.gnu.org/cookbook/en/html_node/Getting-substitutes-from-Tor.html > > HTH! > > Ludo’. > From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:41:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47647: Feature request: Make guix communicate over Hidden Services Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 16:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47647 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: bo0od Cc: 47647@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47647-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47647.1618936581387 (code B ref 47647); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 16:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 47647) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 16:36:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55849 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYtMK-00006B-Ta for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:36:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55850) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYtMI-00005v-IG for 47647@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:36:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38597) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYtMD-0002Um-9c; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:36:13 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=50644 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lYtMC-0007Ac-Op; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:36:13 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <2bf8f666-b29c-b84a-ba27-ff9e379dc278@riseup.net> <87wnsydy90.fsf@gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 1 =?UTF-8?Q?Flor=C3=A9al?= an 229 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:36:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: (bo0od@riseup.net's message of "Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:13:33 +0000") Message-ID: <87fszkc3r8.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi, bo0od skribis: > Yeah not clean connection, What i meant by this feature sorry i didnt > say it clearer at the the first text which is Guix main repository=20 > guix-git must be mirrored over tor hidden services then when using > guix install or guix pull or ...etc is going to be all over Tor (no > TLS used). OK, this is what the cookbook entry proposes, right? The missing bit is accessing the Git repo of the =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 cha= nnel via an Onion service (for =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99), though one can easily crea= te such a mirror. HTH, Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:41:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47647: Feature request: Make guix communicate over Hidden Services Resent-From: bo0od Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47647 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 47647@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47647-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47647.161894282818369 (code B ref 47647); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 47647) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 18:20:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYuz6-0004mD-AP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:20:28 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:40568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYuz4-0004m0-PC for 47647@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:20:27 -0400 Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FPsRj5lmfzFg1j; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 11:20:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1618942821; bh=LU7vO5kJb8sEFNg5VHMCK7EkHRKpW1/0wAqDZb5UyMg=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=jSp14NYtRfRlhV8tITv7zXBKZON/KUDn6oWGLvPhtN8sFOSbkJhaO54WwCC7I/Cez 7Y33Gy+scedzsWgEe6Kz2oqyE6R1N1pdYoyZTeOosHxLIxQuK4SBuHGvlPatNyN8Ng S44KPT/YRjTNkGJFr4dpOEio1i8YlIV10cqfiG1U= X-Riseup-User-ID: E9DA2B9DD92A9312735C6E73A1870EE6B2EBEA845C2AD34DBC7DAECB59C8261B Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FPsRh20PHz1yk3; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 11:20:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <2bf8f666-b29c-b84a-ba27-ff9e379dc278@riseup.net> <87wnsydy90.fsf@gnu.org> <87fszkc3r8.fsf@gnu.org> From: bo0od Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:20:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87fszkc3r8.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) Yeah but how can someone create Tor mirror to guix upstream/main repository if its not done by the upstream themselves? Unless user make his own server and get all guix packages there in order for him to have Tor-Tor connection from his own server/repository which is crazy amount of effort compared to just mounting the upstream main server (same server not different one) to Tor. Having clearnet and Tor entries for same server way much easier to create new server just for Tor. Ludovic Courtès: > Hi, > > bo0od skribis: > >> Yeah not clean connection, What i meant by this feature sorry i didnt >> say it clearer at the the first text which is Guix main repository >> guix-git must be mirrored over tor hidden services then when using >> guix install or guix pull or ...etc is going to be all over Tor (no >> TLS used). > > OK, this is what the cookbook entry proposes, right? > > The missing bit is accessing the Git repo of the ‘guix’ channel via an > Onion service (for ‘guix pull’), though one can easily create such a > mirror. > > HTH, > Ludo’. >