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I think the current "yellow1" is too bright and in-your-face. It handles its goal (having the matched substrings noticed) admirably, but perhaps too well, because we normally don't want to reach each match, but rather the contents of the line around it. So I think it's not productive putting so much visual attention on it. Also, IMHO it doesn't fit the surrounding colors very well, palette-wise. Too "acidic", or something like that. Juri suggested #ffff88, and it seems good to me. Both readable and noticeable, yet not too bright. My original suggestions were "lemon chiffon" (seems ideally subdued to me, but it would be a drastic change), "khaki1" or "light goldenrod". 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3 Apr 2021 06:40:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33187 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lSZwv-0002yZ-OV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 02:40:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lSZwt-0002y2-Vh for 47574@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 02:40:00 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49903) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lSZwo-00017U-AI; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 02:39:54 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1665 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lSZwn-0004MU-Kw; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 02:39:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2021 09:39:43 +0300 Message-Id: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dmitry Gutov In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 3 Apr 2021 02:42:43 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright References: X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: 47574@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 02:42:43 +0300 > > Split off from the discussion in bug#47012. > > I think the current "yellow1" is too bright and in-your-face. > > It handles its goal (having the matched substrings noticed) admirably, > but perhaps too well, because we normally don't want to reach each > match, but rather the contents of the line around it. So I think it's > not productive putting so much visual attention on it. If someone wants to see the lines without the match standing out, they can customize list-matching-lines-face to nil. So this use case is already covered. FTR, I do want to see the match itself, so this face does its job for me very well. > Juri suggested #ffff88, and it seems good to me. Both readable and > noticeable, yet not too bright. > > My original suggestions were "lemon chiffon" (seems ideally subdued to > me, but it would be a drastic change), "khaki1" or "light goldenrod". If we change the face's colors, we should make sure the new colors look well on both light and dark backgrounds. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 03 14:26:26 2021 Received: (at 47574) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2021 18:26:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lSkyY-0007gP-3N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 14:26:26 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f54.google.com ([209.85.128.54]:43930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lSkyV-0007g9-MU for 47574@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 14:26:24 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f54.google.com with SMTP id u5-20020a7bcb050000b029010e9316b9d5so3748650wmj.2 for <47574@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 11:26:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nGVqyP5iWgyxVm76NM1vM7mTKb5gPiKf20xMywsrIPE=; b=mop8BaDd2QkIUF0pq/P01T0mWN+kWRx+pDEhhSo5kJ8wN59pF3it2Md1VYaOTjJFqC mMNzw3Wf4iVGxIqISX0lUb1TSxYttukanBDui6M0MspsR1JNX1XTSLRsZHFfNc75RDET haj/kK0xnMRcEbDJjLeOw1+U/9gyqbnGBzeZ2IRadepV+IGpVDEFw40DhOgoZILQk171 7jf6cPW0KwH9wK6c3ttc8tZYZE/ZhnVQEZ8nOzwC9An9Dm5W35eas+9uDBAI8jGkYReh 9GtaIAqu0heEYgZ/lCzomYa84o7pYPD+QJtpCElijtha/aLOu5/LMGBFcfB8NwR7jFrB hWLQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nGVqyP5iWgyxVm76NM1vM7mTKb5gPiKf20xMywsrIPE=; b=MJlbgpCLUFlECNPZWN+Skmg6/MQP1reO4p1affm/RuTmr9Rf9Qb5cKalX7JBWaDzYU uv3n4d4bUNAHognrFAIplp3HdqXMQk2NIWHLz0ozm9I+Dpmo2P+NHKjjC6cZBz7aSx1V U18DZWZInP56AvVy55XZwgJg17Outs6WgUkRycnYW8rlAXwUoLUYjDLcHmb462Qn5bvw rQzTKEU6AsvJJqtOCNEeKwyqNKp5A7bTkRpqSAILwbWU68a3Pw6E6SRO6VJp9JS2QaOU TUDOMN1j6WQXXGQYpn+BKOhUTLW7tUBDX1VGHlpj8akTeIRUIliJglSXhHf8VxHEw7pR suNw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533K6QkEuDlfZn6EFCgz7QrkblrZcPaAigwwnu3KWrJjujGflqBc eWi0h5LU66HTDCiQvCMKpUhQaJ3ehdY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJycunPxhJVeBwMrsednBx/dpeqNV/yOCIOY4Z540sHGnkAJnYRbSzdWQ4u/kyRin9rb0F2tnQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7209:: with SMTP id n9mr18411287wmc.132.1617474377612; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 11:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id u8sm20856302wrr.42.2021.04.03.11.26.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 03 Apr 2021 11:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright To: Eli Zaretskii References: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <2b966549-1426-f748-c2b6-ff390d911ea0@yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 21:26:15 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: 47574@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 03.04.2021 09:39, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 02:42:43 +0300 >> >> Split off from the discussion in bug#47012. >> >> I think the current "yellow1" is too bright and in-your-face. >> >> It handles its goal (having the matched substrings noticed) admirably, >> but perhaps too well, because we normally don't want to reach each >> match, but rather the contents of the line around it. So I think it's >> not productive putting so much visual attention on it. > > If someone wants to see the lines without the match standing out, they > can customize list-matching-lines-face to nil. So this use case is > already covered. I'm talking rather about the other uses of the 'match' face: the Grep buffer, the Occur buffer, and the uses of the xref-match face (which inherits from 'match' now) inside the Xref buffer (xref-find-references or project-find-regexp). My argument is that it's the dominant use case, so it's worth trying to improve the default configuration. > FTR, I do want to see the match itself, so this face does its job for > me very well. Sure, I do too. From my experience, though, it's visible enough with any of the proposed colors. Even 'lemon chiffon', though I agree the result is fairly subtle. >> Juri suggested #ffff88, and it seems good to me. Both readable and >> noticeable, yet not too bright. >> >> My original suggestions were "lemon chiffon" (seems ideally subdued to >> me, but it would be a drastic change), "khaki1" or "light goldenrod". > > If we change the face's colors, we should make sure the new colors > look well on both light and dark backgrounds. My proposal is specifically for the light background (the min-colors 88 case), with the default theme as the baseline. Looking at the dark background color (and trying it with a couple of dark themes), I think it could use some toning down as well from RoyalBlue3 to RoyalBlue4, but others who prefer dark backgrounds can probably tell better. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 14 10:55:36 2021 Received: (at 47574) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Apr 2021 14:55:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35493 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lWgvX-0004PX-NC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:55:35 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f174.google.com ([209.85.214.174]:47088) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lWgvV-0004PJ-DA for 47574@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:55:33 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f174.google.com with SMTP id m18so8036932plc.13 for <47574@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 07:55:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3Sw05TMkWNGgsFtcBCSX5pZWTkKeZuszHmVf7VAAzNk=; b=kd+nRgWCsvYrwh6SHh2lxx0XlkPbkUCK1Z0w65pYfCWzoTnI+Cz37bO6sZT53q/i1P NsC4hXKk6LTYpKkgYIUBExsBOFlWms0BtG/hmBzlT08g2UmMQi4Tq5B0MsmfcmRPzUJ1 /PiBCJ4ldyyYCj7jSHLM9mJzxD8WIEjC1whYJhyjSS9dqTh0JwsapAn/o9isee+qpy7q 6msf1qfdLJcYyl2X4/PxD7ztmCUSFU89kozKvMHhPCC0Moqvq0jdDgZP8pWPvfC6yLar fiP5OL5OTapXA4hmRrQHvonke6bg5Fxs812+Po0/BlhvXtprkKXCxByInA+XdAtWIzuE qu1w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531OAudXddOD2w6k9DOy/xbdINjnR7FgE0lHeas2iNRdBQiJLoIl Az6Eerfzy7EoZkjGaeVxUep52D5djvzWi/t0wbo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz7nxbFOVkYD35xjWuM6SIl8bvMxLC0yk5lvtajr1gD1Ntz3OFKr6sjGQNe+l23LEDD+ys6nblqUrimBuAoi/o= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:19ca:: with SMTP id nm10mr4121384pjb.175.1618412127795; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 07:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:55:27 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 03 Apr 2021 09:39:43 +0300") References: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:55:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: 47574@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) [Resending my reply as I accidentally sent it only to Eli.] Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Juri suggested #ffff88, and it seems good to me. Both readable and >> noticeable, yet not too bright. I don't see a very large difference between yellow and #ffff88, but I guess it's slightly better than what we have now. >> My original suggestions were "lemon chiffon" (seems ideally subdued to >> me, but it would be a drastic change), "khaki1" or "light goldenrod". FWIW, I think "lemon chiffon" is by far the best one. It also fits better with the rest of the default theme. This is followed by "khaki1" or "light goldenrod", in that order. I'm not against #ffff88 if that's what people want to see, but the change is not large enough to make much of a difference here. > If we change the face's colors, we should make sure the new colors > look well on both light and dark backgrounds. Yup. I think "khaki3" stands out sufficiently well and goes well together with "lemon chiffon", but there is obviously room for experimentation. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 09:57:58 2021 Received: (at 47574) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 13:57:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38759 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX2VJ-0001th-Ox for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 09:57:58 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f41.google.com ([209.85.128.41]:50865) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX2VE-0001tQ-AL for 47574@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 09:57:56 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f41.google.com with SMTP id u20so7987119wmj.0 for <47574@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 06:57:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CBuKQqTmEUuNrAV1Na2dga0aFmvLd2MUOJbEdXWitVo=; b=Yyc+OXjiFZcUcqGoYOhjXMGiaZsii16vuTMiPdBJus3hpqEEP+FSuJfZ0z/dUx5neD CDmCCaJsGS2KODO8DUPVAnN3aWdFv9DdYZH7AfBigbiXau/0Vte8NFOuD2DgHQKjE09O wN4SFTzYf6mOcBbjGvZlTFxG27LYhmmE7mQInOVAMO4CrhHOgL8ZTbXsx5EYOBIZ/7iT moKrhQKb7lb6apMqj2NAJRkGqIGIqGggP2ArOvetlwCLV8xpAsvK0Z20MIsWpn9/MHtM DiaWlQlIprbtifqGZPUyVu7NWme2AvEHkDH93qa6znJgS50HhxjGoqX61Fr10CcSGBxE 507g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CBuKQqTmEUuNrAV1Na2dga0aFmvLd2MUOJbEdXWitVo=; b=JGz2Qyr+E50ZGFZGQFSwMxyAQrXkp621lbLnrISqv5fgmMtU4XkY+T1f0J0ntTbLs7 KeNitA7Hts+Jd8Q+pvDN4neaG1XDG313Ks2veicicn8hJ3/KTxUw88hv/8t06QzvH5Td d288SPGe6SQw6wA/RVGKN6NMPp8Oz+q5PXY+8HSpdk0+cu+smsHizuadzbGEag5zQMKM /oAuCXXB176vsuY/k+mkrHWDQZAWvL5WMNR4WW58sjYpYcrX+JO4Wc1KJO7WLIPi6fEq 9R35f2ZbJdRRPAcaxigXCm8Zcsm98Y4ZCqH+YfXNXclPfbIFYwZ7JbEL8Pqy+oyl8NdK MiJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531bA1pQW+OhiuSI5lm6EYre0leFO2uUJbXbKuenY0/mJO7j7geq wIuUev6uoSM8bbzvgI23WAqGUzsC1FM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyGlY68mNKnEk0oSVF+YN9GlvpqWH1XdDF8np0rA+p1eCBL8vENmPUkDUGElVeTfukAdlE/1A== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:a914:: with SMTP id s20mr3358685wme.106.1618495066380; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 06:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g12sm3485120wru.47.2021.04.15.06.57.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Apr 2021 06:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright To: Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii References: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <04d1b7b8-eba2-7adb-c195-8a38ff13f8e5@yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 16:57:43 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: 47574@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 14.04.2021 17:55, Stefan Kangas wrote: > [Resending my reply as I accidentally sent it only to Eli.] > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> Juri suggested #ffff88, and it seems good to me. Both readable and >>> noticeable, yet not too bright. > > I don't see a very large difference between yellow and #ffff88, but I > guess it's slightly better than what we have now. What do people think about #ffffbb, then? It's the other color Juri mentioned. Stefan? Eli? It's also relatively low-key like "lemon chiffon", but a bit more noticeable. And it seems to fit the default theme very well. >>> My original suggestions were "lemon chiffon" (seems ideally subdued to >>> me, but it would be a drastic change), "khaki1" or "light goldenrod". > > FWIW, I think "lemon chiffon" is by far the best one. It also fits > better with the rest of the default theme. > > This is followed by "khaki1" or "light goldenrod", in that order. I guess we'll fall back to "khaki1" if the more radical options are not accepted. > I'm not against #ffff88 if that's what people want to see, but the > change is not large enough to make much of a difference here. > >> If we change the face's colors, we should make sure the new colors >> look well on both light and dark backgrounds. > > Yup. > > I think "khaki3" stands out sufficiently well and goes well together > with "lemon chiffon", but there is obviously room for experimentation. If we're talking about dark background, it should be at least khaki4 (the text is hard to read otherwise), or the RoyalBlue4 I suggested as the tweak for the current dark-bg color of this face. Although the current RoyalBlue3 seems to have about the same level of brightness as khaki4. So it's not out of the question to just leave the current color there. If we change the dark-bg color to khaki, I think we'd also need to change the spec for ((class color) (min-colors 8) (background dark)), and setting it to "yellow" is probably not a good idea. Wish we had some dark-background users in this discussion. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 15 10:39:11 2021 Received: (at 47574) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2021 14:39:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX39D-0002yE-2R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:39:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53110) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lX39B-0002y2-Cc for 47574@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:39:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lX395-0000mQ-NM; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:39:03 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3097 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lX394-0008Uk-6D; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:39:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:38:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83o8efy5mq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dmitry Gutov In-Reply-To: <04d1b7b8-eba2-7adb-c195-8a38ff13f8e5@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 15 Apr 2021 16:57:43 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright References: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> <04d1b7b8-eba2-7adb-c195-8a38ff13f8e5@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: 47574@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Cc: 47574@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 16:57:43 +0300 > > What do people think about #ffffbb, then? It's the other color Juri > mentioned. > > Stefan? Eli? Too bright. Almost invisible with the default colors and light background. 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Thu, 15 Apr 2021 08:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47574: [External] : bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright To: Drew Adams , Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii References: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> <04d1b7b8-eba2-7adb-c195-8a38ff13f8e5@yandex.ru> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <8a85c907-99da-2051-3e42-cdd58237c41b@yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:43:20 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: "47574@debbugs.gnu.org" <47574@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 15.04.2021 17:56, Drew Adams wrote: > Why limit a discussion of changing some default > behavior to a bug thread? I'm using a bug report to be able to post a sane reference to the discussion in the resulting commit message. Please feel free to post to emacs-devel to notify anybody interested that such discussion is taking place here. 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Sun, 18 Apr 2021 03:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 05:16:53 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83o8efy5mq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> <04d1b7b8-eba2-7adb-c195-8a38ff13f8e5@yandex.ru> <83o8efy5mq.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 05:16:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright To: Eli Zaretskii , Dmitry Gutov Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: 47574@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> What do people think about #ffffbb, then? It's the other color Juri >> mentioned. >> >> Stefan? Eli? > > Too bright. Almost invisible with the default colors and light > background. It looks fine here, but I guess results will differ depending on your the brightness settings of your monitor, etc. Playing around with some different colors, #ffff99 is a more marked improvement than #ffff88 here. It's also not as bright as #ffffbb. Could that work? Otherwise, #ffff88 is also an okay choice. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 21 20:13:39 2021 Received: (at 47574) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2021 00:13:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60104 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZMyQ-00054p-Tu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:13:39 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-f43.google.com ([209.85.218.43]:37855) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZMyN-00054Y-KY for 47574@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:13:38 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-f43.google.com with SMTP id w3so66077006ejc.4 for <47574@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:13:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t6Um81XAQH0WLT20N8G6BNkCb/eST3j/CvLViQHLtms=; b=nzVfjQ/xL5pJf5mvdUTrmodN6Wxkg5JicNYdDzyjbKbeTRy14Fs5y1ZZLsg4o7v0eT 5VtM2ayg1l7vKIdg1leWMwVv7EiQGd0LojA+86V7u2tsgVhHZ8cVjPz/DZzaBsReGyOG gcWQX1AGHLr8Iv90cy1VopEVtd7uuFrUhwuAVTg/m4OaAau5fdBsw2WDCjY0kc9ALIpK 7oc29dOq1ZsSkhKNQRY+OSu1Fxz02AWtqe/08Tq1ZqjxAidugmkXiZXznIeMq0vlimvS 3JoCovdqxlCRhUefZQNgQ2pwug5KGAYdj+vin0UZHzzvs6zAMFjr3Mk2gxfGssnJtKK5 8qgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t6Um81XAQH0WLT20N8G6BNkCb/eST3j/CvLViQHLtms=; b=Vb0sFNcMRIP+e0DUcgSjfrgVtEbPr+lCHBChU2WuJc3EGsDVnWLwIIwN3E+z2FIeTW Lxsag3aWgzwgeGGP3uVGKNr9eTa+8YJOfsdHAGGmuovqW+wMDt09EWHnYVTOkZ6g9Ogw KHVQMc6PNUcF82z/MGk5d/7cuN68VJAnZK0AOTAfNd5M9vpmoD3FqXo2OzpUw3UPi4rE qFxjCJTcDTjiYdZPZLadYd0TPvbE8XeAXO09R67gSoHSqumtK3E15MOMo9Rxi+i4wdj2 jSapWzBjK1pgsi2mGv9BdTR0t1W2lF7qYsdypWikgbcY4QwYRDBMMs8SUeP7wg8CPcNi 5e3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533sA/xzOzDWc1JMK3JAyUp+yfF2SDNLMs6IXanjbw0lwTkDVals TexcIKCQ5klSXZflojyAHyLk5Cl4e+k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyz23jVje4wzcHrhvMhSuHUHm7JQymN3kwgLg7X2Go2ZyHWc03qI+JpNA5kv3+zQkArn617kA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:34da:: with SMTP id h26mr448852ejb.496.1619050409851; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id s11sm730378edt.27.2021.04.21.17.13.28 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright To: Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii References: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> <04d1b7b8-eba2-7adb-c195-8a38ff13f8e5@yandex.ru> <83o8efy5mq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <1d961762-b3b7-9205-6910-7c0596eaeb7a@yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 03:13:27 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: 47574@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 18.04.2021 13:16, Stefan Kangas wrote: > It looks fine here, but I guess results will differ depending on your > the brightness settings of your monitor, etc. Right. I also don't get how it could be hard to see, but environments differ, I guess. > Playing around with some different colors, #ffff99 is a more marked > improvement than #ffff88 here. It's also not as bright as #ffffbb. > Could that work? #ffff99 looks decent to me personally, if we can't get #ffffbb there. The discussions seems to have stalled here, though, so I pushed khaki1 as the sole non-contentious version for now. Not closing the issue just yet, let's keep the possibility for more discussion open. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 06 07:07:30 2021 Received: (at 47574) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2021 11:07:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37400 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lebqs-0005Ah-Cv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:07:30 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:47428) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lebqq-0005AU-HJ for 47574@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:07:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=EdJGuv2hcxAhisjf3D4vPo/Rxb9V05Lfiws9FpUOEGA=; b=Ee+OnYHNXBC2Izv7gaEfZT9wgp 3nmq372UDLmb1KP1lH+FvSKinWWzkUkQM5SMzsHyNfYx0ed0fTimPCTcURQOlebmXHLbgiQWp/7G0 jh5Knt0l77qY2y5EMfo/he+5uZKpX03Uui3ItJ9VwEDCXdTaBMu+HcFPpcW8ut3RLSRI=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lebqi-0006T0-EB; Thu, 06 May 2021 13:07:22 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#47574: 'match' face is too bright References: <83wntjeus0.fsf@gnu.org> <04d1b7b8-eba2-7adb-c195-8a38ff13f8e5@yandex.ru> <83o8efy5mq.fsf@gnu.org> <1d961762-b3b7-9205-6910-7c0596eaeb7a@yandex.ru> X-Now-Playing: Nico's _Do Or Die_: "audio_14.mp3" Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 13:07:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1d961762-b3b7-9205-6910-7c0596eaeb7a@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 22 Apr 2021 03:13:27 +0300") Message-ID: <875yzww26w.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > #ffff99 looks decent to me personally, if we can't get #ffffbb there. > > The discussions seems to have stalled here, though, so I pushed khaki1 > as the sole non-contentious version for now. > > No [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47574 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas , 47574@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov writes: > #ffff99 looks decent to me personally, if we can't get #ffffbb there. > > The discussions seems to have stalled here, though, so I pushed khaki1 > as the sole non-contentious version for now. > > Not closing the issue just yet, let's keep the possibility for more > discussion open. This was two weeks ago, so I'm guessing there isn't going to be more discussion here, and I'm closing this bug report. 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