From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:23:56 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#47353 <47353@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#47353 <47353@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Numbered backups also need kept-new-versions else will grow out of control Reply-To: bug#47353 <47353@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 07:23:56 +0000 retitle 47353 Numbered backups also need kept-new-versions else will grow o= ut of control reassign 47353 coreutils submitter 47353 Dan Jacobson severity 47353 normal tag 47353 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 23 19:43:14 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2021 23:43:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33438 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lOqg5-0003Tm-S2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:43:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:43474) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lOqg4-0003Td-2E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:43:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45404) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOqg2-0001td-UY for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:43:11 -0400 Received: from cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.47]:33107) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOqfz-0001u4-80 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:43:10 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61602121DFD for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-17-139.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.17.139]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1D4F61219B0 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.17.139 (trex/6.1.1); Tue, 23 Mar 2021 23:43:05 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Lonely-Callous: 5c5e31102299b6ea_1616542985167_719923488 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1616542985167:478696797 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1616542985166 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B1987C9D for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:43:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=UgLsD49IAUxExQbpysQ2TdLJw10=; b=iKxcYIl2oLNM4Jy3 hlb7SVztX9AvncMkZ6OM/a5D4etdEZaI7wYbkxTHqZXSOvPxCcs6fRdkG/r0H5QN srkuSpF3LYC4LQDhk9M5t45e/zCE+YxYyBVcTcMZs5KlwZItYZjVm6kMF2KLsTGE urhqChDKzTB4vLTZwA0cFF0sW8Y= Received: from jidanni.org (114-46-63-213.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.46.63.213]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A47E07F0C8 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:43:04 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a76 From: Dan Jacobson To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: Re: Numbered backups also need kept-new-versions else will grow out of control Referencs: <87pmzpjv65.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 07:43:01 +0800 Message-ID: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.212.47; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Or (info "(coreutils) Backup options") should "admit" that "Numbered backups need to be trimmed occasionally by the user, lest the fill up the disk." 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[92.40.171.106]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j14sm837837edr.97.2021.03.24.02.49.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Mar 2021 02:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#47353: Numbered backups also need kept-new-versions else will grow out of control To: Dan Jacobson , 47353@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> From: Chris Elvidge Message-ID: <61c6229b-5138-77e1-91df-f97c3f75f128@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 09:49:29 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 Lightning/5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47353 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) On 23/03/2021 11:43 pm, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Or (info "(coreutils) Backup options") should "admit" that "Numbered > backups need to be trimmed occasionally by the user, lest the fill up > the disk." > > > > So 'use common sense to limit disk space used' has to be stated in the manual? -- Chris Elvidge From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 14:52:59 2021 Received: (at 47353) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2021 18:52:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36094 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lP8cl-0001Q4-Gp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 14:52:59 -0400 Received: from dog.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.48]:53049) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lP8cj-0001Pu-FW for 47353@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 14:52:58 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD131342719; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-133-36.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.133.36]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 66BDB3424FC; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:52:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.133.36 (trex/6.1.1); Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:52:55 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Coil-Average: 3f3ed4c3247d1362_1616611975476_3127199180 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1616611975476:3349860759 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1616611975476 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254817E4A5; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 11:52:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=NE7sIxBuUscVMATwSXU5ntvU/tg=; b=pjuY6iBEropNz eypZ7FK5bGkr3enf1yVCAVhCbw+rUQYRz/GWXq/9BU0Za0wlHVDwO8rOSCmCXq7X iRjuFcigI+YPXVVSYdoKDhQQoywONsYOh1G6iMnlBxUz5qGFERkLk9gduf9m9W3q ssAJcZ3+NarCgsLSkn949fJrLRuhMw= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-10-201.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.10.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A10107E48A; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 11:52:52 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a29 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Chris Elvidge Subject: Re: bug#47353: Numbered backups also need kept-new-versions else will grow out of control References: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <61c6229b-5138-77e1-91df-f97c3f75f128@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 02:52:49 +0800 Message-ID: <8735wkmlj2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47353 Cc: 47353@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> "CE" == Chris Elvidge writes: CE> So 'use common sense to limit disk space used' has to be stated in the CE> manual? Hmmm, yes. And also mention in the manual that e.g., emacs has methods to trim these automatically, but coreutils hasn't implemented them yet. Else users will write elaborate programs to do it, thinking that nobody thought about it yet. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 20:26:04 2021 Received: (at 47353) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2021 00:26:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36507 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lPDp5-0003nI-VX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:26:04 -0400 Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:60594) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lPDp4-0003mj-10; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:26:02 -0400 Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C45269; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:25:56 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1616631956; bh=sxvIOaRPD0xihOF9X9WKUZiN+cZdjbWVSb9G9L1MFck=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=n/eIr5/2Xo9+BxRrIVYwjQMeY3vLVUMlD8xw39TaG6vKz/pwR9itkmvbrVlHwqMfT lTrMm1EuLnRzLFvtjeTH98MUvlVa0ssZOaPcbXcxCYV321fmKnPkX8rNG+0KGU6cb8 /6tAZM+2BPokSQYQg1BSoPDjdOJVwwcDPucZwSmmHOKT54w/Pyrt3s/cy3NX+A2U/h +pETeRIw7e3tb16FgWL6xA7ofGN/l9bGOJlkij1Vub3nYdwETT9jHhDBCwVlp+pgZx eec2Q3tR7LF44YeZdKDQgkB7Ko6H2zEuEgiIccECtWZVyD0vv5M0s+pPJlAYDaMx7L Sb0tEj/mcK94Q== Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5002121156; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:25:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 45BFB2DC99; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:25:56 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:25:56 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#47353: Numbered backups also need kept-new-versions else will grow out of control Message-ID: <20210324175724199886229@bob.proulx.com> References: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47353 Cc: 47353@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tag 47353 + notabug close 47353 thanks Dan Jacobson wrote: > Or (info "(coreutils) Backup options") should "admit" that "Numbered > backups need to be trimmed occasionally by the user, lest the fill up > the disk." If the user has asked for them then any decision of the disposition of them is up to the user. If the user fills up their storage with them then surely the user who created them will know what they did and will be in the best position to decide what to do. This type of thing is really both too general to document in detail and too specific to document in detail at the same time. It targets a very specific thing, filling up the disk, with a very general purpose action, copying files. Both of which are plain actions not hidden or subtle. Consuming storage space by making copies is the primary purpose of the cp command. > And also mention in the manual that e.g., emacs has methods to trim > these automatically, but coreutils hasn't implemented them yet. Although cp, mv, and ln, may have used the same format as emacs for the creation of backup files that does not mean that they *are* emacs or that emacs is the preferred editor for users of cp and mv or that knowledge of emacs is needed to use them. I use Emacs and find it a superior editor for creating customized domain specific editors. But I don't think it should be referenced from cp because the Emacs documentation is *HUGELY* more complicated. If a new user is reading documentation on how to use cp then being directed to climb the learning curve of Emacs would be way too much to ask! There is a user who I think would file a bug that it is too much to ask if it were done that way. The better thing to mention in relation to cp would be rm as those would be natural siblings. But they are actually siblings already. So there seems no further need to cross-reference them additionally redundantly again redundantly. I am marking the ticket as closed as there seems nothing to actually do here. But as always more discussion is welcome and if it is determined that something should be done then the ticket may be opened again to track it. Bob From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 20:30:33 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2021 00:30:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lPDtQ-0004Ry-Uy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:30:33 -0400 Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:60700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lPDtP-0004K9-3E for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:30:31 -0400 Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F56D4CE for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:30:25 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1616632225; bh=Bg+AgfGGGTxENeRf5WFnCqSMB3jwI8vR4g/JNT9/jLM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=PmbJp6ZKv3HmKEs0QtY77Tu3fRJ8fvGWPYHukLBCIhTNGNtnuPy8lr/Ku7QyKxW2W oSrw5Ic5Xcqn82ZzzPaYy17WUy7n2tstMLWa9Se3+H95cVCmgBByEiX5R4QFFCmI4r MM/siCaT+VGGTDm6UyZgwU3aPZt3NxNz43lhu3MAehrvo2jVPCzckjAhaaQaqTwEnQ Kg0pTUY0EswmhGB7SgxPFn+8T60uLc0DrQ7VyryBStMMwBvg/vbvlPsy4rKODQelju mueWT9DqMDuYDuWYyH8ToeyhOT+9+xeDBNR8iyPH2Q5ewo6fktb7rgh/ewXEBDwlIG C9UjcY7b7me3A== Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0659F21195 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:30:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A378D2DC99; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:30:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:30:24 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: merge duplicate tickets Message-ID: <20210324182700148435051@bob.proulx.com> References: <87pmzpjv65.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87pmzpjv65.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tag 47352 + notabug close 47352 merge 47353 47352 thanks Merging duplicate tickets. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 21:21:30 2021 Received: (at 47353) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2021 01:21:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36691 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lPEgk-00015y-2C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:21:30 -0400 Received: from bee.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.14]:61553) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lPEgh-00015p-BD for 47353@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:21:28 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE867E26C2; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 01:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a8.g.dreamhost.com (100-105-161-106.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.105.161.106]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D00E27E2773; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 01:21:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a8.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.105.161.106 (trex/6.1.1); Thu, 25 Mar 2021 01:21:26 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Obese-Rock: 6f88cd7172b2aa57_1616635285901_1828698169 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1616635285901:600344836 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1616635285901 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a8.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a8.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F198CE45; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:21:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=pZYxIWvnz006z+JwaezAZHfgVDs=; b=UXbDGoemqKlRH fZSs4Wl/UF1HvrxxjlcqXdz7yJyKxvUdohULvpXy7Jw2mi85op16ZcvWiKkG+eMl w9OKAO15/Rw2TAUUggDyvQm2OmndapnFvTsczTp0sgKO4x9vCHWM/whWWB6ZqpWR /arUds7pzbvavGbxl8aCdTeFFYt7Mg= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-10-201.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.10.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a8.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E05D28CE47; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:21:22 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a8 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Bob Proulx Subject: Re: bug#47353: Numbered backups also need kept-new-versions else will grow out of control References: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <20210324175724199886229@bob.proulx.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 09:21:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87a6qskoz5.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47353 Cc: 47353@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) All I am saying is 'to acknowledge the hazards'... 'Advisory on prolonged use'. 'Note about health effects of unattended use.' For all the user knows reading (info "(coreutils) Backup options") maybe numbered backups even just means one backup, numbered ...1. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 25 09:43:41 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2021 13:43:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37537 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lPQGz-0007kK-Cb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 09:43:41 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lPQGu-0007k0-00 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 09:43:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lPQGt-0000pq-O8 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 09:43:35 -0400 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:59256 helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lPQGr-0000SJ-WD for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 09:43:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.12] (Athenae [192.168.3.12]) by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id 12PDhTGp020859; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:43:31 -0700 Message-ID: <605C9381.8010606@tlinx.org> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:43:29 -0700 From: L A Walsh User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#47353: Numbered backups also need kept-new-versions else will grow out of control References: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: <87o8f9jv22.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=173.164.175.65; envelope-from=coreutils@tlinx.org; helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Coreutils , Dan Jacobson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) On 2021/03/23 16:43, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Or (info "(coreutils) Backup options") should "admit" that "Numbered > backups need to be trimmed occasionally by the user, lest the fill up > the disk." > --- Perhaps a scheme, similar, or duplicating that in logrotate would be useful where older versions can be limited by count and/or age? 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