GNU bug report logs - #47265
Provide and/or document a way to get an FHS environment

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From: Vitaliy Shatrov <guix.vits <at> disroot.org>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: Guix System: improve support for intentional statefullness.
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 23:11:54 +0700

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Recently i saw WebKit failing to build on Cuirass.

For Guix System it ought to be in the Manual:
"Setting up FHS for auxiliary applications obtained from upstream Free binaries".

This way Joe has a base system which is obviously important to keep reprobuilt.
Then Joe happily pile things on top of it, rather than install Guix on top of legacy.

Will definitely try this myself, but if someone already has notes and so, do share.
-- 
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From: Vitaliy Shatrov <guix.vits <at> disroot.org>
To: 47265 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Improve support for intentional statefullness.
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 20:55:43 +0700

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I see how Guix bundles are built.  I think, Proot is a better way than `guix fhs`.

/        --- Гну Линьг Рут (-u-).
/home/tldr/debian        --- Joe's FHS (./bin, ./usr, ...)

`proot -R /home/tldr/debian`.  `wget tor-browser-why-not`.  `./sus-shady-run`.

Proot is a user-process.  It should do GUI apps well (worked for Nixo McTest).
Still want FHS maded with Scheme (if it is possible to link against /lib inside...).

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From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Vitaliy Shatrov <guix.vits <at> disroot.org>
Cc: 47265 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47265: Guix System: improve support for intentional
 statefullness.
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:44:10 +0100

Hi,

Vitaliy Shatrov <guix.vits <at> disroot.org> skribis:

> Recently i saw WebKit failing to build on Cuirass.
>
> For Guix System it ought to be in the Manual:
> "Setting up FHS for auxiliary applications obtained from upstream Free binaries".
>
> This way Joe has a base system which is obviously important to keep reprobuilt.
> Then Joe happily pile things on top of it, rather than install Guix on top of legacy.
>
> Will definitely try this myself, but if someone already has notes and so, do share.

To be clear, you’re advocating for the ability to create an FHS
environment, right?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Message #14 received at 47265 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Vitaliy Shatrov <guix.vits <at> disroot.org>
To: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 47265 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47265: Guix System: improve support for intentional
 statefullness.
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 22:59:28 +0700

Aha.


> create an FHS environment, right?

And to put in the manual the best way to get it.

Proot has troubles with Chromium.
Unshare has troubles with all, more or less.
Some apps surprisingly easy to start, though.

.. Some sort of FHS on demand, or NS maded right would help a lot on System.
To start binary releases from upstream, and elsewhere (deb, rpm, pacman).

-- 
(-uo)

Message #17 received at 47265 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Vitaliy Shatrov <guix.vits <at> disroot.org>
Cc: 47265 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47265: Guix System: improve support for intentional
 statefullness.
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 11:34:07 +0100

Hi,

Vitaliy Shatrov <guix.vits <at> disroot.org> skribis:

>> create an FHS environment, right?
>
> And to put in the manual the best way to get it.

Alright, I guess we can tag it as “wishlist” then.  :-)

Thanks for clarifying,
Ludo’.

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