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pr lacks -p

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Package: coreutils;

Reported by: Eric Blake <eblake <at> redhat.com>

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 15:39:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: 47243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#47243: pr lacks -p
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 08:01:18 -0700
On 2025-07-28 07:41, Stan Marsh wrote:
>> Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu> writes:
> 
>> Thanks for looking into that. Unfortunately POSIX says -p should be
>> ignored only if standard output is a terminal, and that newline should
> -----------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Shouldn't this be "ignored unless standard output is a terminal" ?

Yes, sorry.


> Then	Pádraig Brady wrote:
>> Reading POSIX more closely I see there is also pause logic for the first page
>> only:
>>   -f    [XSI] [Option Start] Use a <form-feed> for new pages, instead of the default
>> behavior that uses a sequence of <newline> characters.
>>         Pause before beginning the first page if the standard output is
>> associated with a terminal. [Option End]
> 
> How can it be both?

If neither -p nor -f is specified, pr doesn't pause.

If -p is specified, pr pauses before every output page, regardless of 
whether -f is also specified.

If -f but not -p is specified, pr pauses only before the first output page.

The motivation for -p is that you are using something like a Teletype 
Model 37[1] to log in, i.e., you are logged in via a printing terminal. 
But you want to print something out using special paper that you need to 
load by hand, one sheet at a time, and you don't want your interactive 
session to appear on that paper.

The -f option is also motivated for a device like the Model 37, except 
you merely want to use the existing multi-sheet paper and tear off the 
interactive session.

Although devices like the Model 37 became obsolete for logins in the 
1970s (I last used one for that purpose in 1975), apparently enough of 
them were still being used in older installations that the -p option was 
added by some well-meaning engineer at AT&T around 1980. (The -p option 
was not present in 7th edition UNIX, released in 1979.) And POSIX 
standardized -p - which has not been needed for at least three decades, 
probably four - and we are now spending time implementing -p for 
coreutils, time that would be more usefully spent elsewhere.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletype_Model_37





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