From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 15:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Eric Abrahamsen X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16160797281117 (code B ref -1); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 15:03:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 15:02:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47686 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMuA4-0000Hw-AW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:02:08 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:55548) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMuA2-0000Hp-PV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:02:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMu9z-000601-Jc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:02:06 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x42c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42c]:36395) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMu9x-0006HH-3P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:02:03 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-x42c.google.com with SMTP id k8so5875281wrc.3 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:01:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2FwRrOQA9w2VZLyNzFsPZgnd489J9PKY5l8S4sn2CxY=; b=D4AKHandxburYbcZizNnGiypjpnTRgZ0rBPmOceNXCzgQSz8gVQVga4/WqO/gn9mnf HlzhqH/O8yBOBLhvAZ9UG2wOg7Fg+lhLDj2GMjrX8AszpiokIanb9CUFA9ERm6eZeDDN qIwE74uZwAJQj1vDA+2sVnhn3zLv/MN7ONQZYad6aIoDFUQQQkgYhG1z1seLsmQrxwNm 0lt48UW2s3eKE16ThJ/WxRbD9eQLluS0qomgsyaYvUOrGH4MVdx9PdPAMFv2KatZUm8Q 0ZAlNhuUm8sjoyuWrP4iuFMe9jlmTAkfoJpi8fomKQxoan4XUMRf6kIisyM9Yi8Uxx1K C8jg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2FwRrOQA9w2VZLyNzFsPZgnd489J9PKY5l8S4sn2CxY=; b=Wn4U7JyUoUBqBb6mY/n3emWvYh/WqcLSTWXYxi6DCa2JxIihxeIw/FLzEstZF+cmEl AJKvoZec0Io6L01Ahzvr+F7UiCBIzIVg85Kr8UmuP1v0jH/GjniyYHJ12oRohKIOS6xS juHHbMZXrpvn9pZlYA03OehGkhzN2wCd1Z54Xcai60d+7q1ykMQHcV3zkCLKAxqDgthe SWSRUygIud1dqaws3CrZxTa9xKnl7tchkG4yaSCoTB7QYxvNpkJtr/Eugedod9bUD1BC 6etCflTRvtDx797ofNTrp8Q1fmI3aLFsv8ydc97vHhktQ9tMWh+oe/X17GdqC7Le8aSv Qq+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533LFSkTs7sXKHMenE2PLSDxRqyrqaiXwTvYr4OK5I6OUHLWEu4m sYJ5FK9JP54safnyg2kE/E0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyIaYnacZzIqgSuBkQgjf9DXN9wLud0khm3t2u4JGIKG/cEgfBVAANdue+xF1beESy2e34vgw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e548:: with SMTP id z8mr10384816wrm.246.1616079716096; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb (91-175-207-237.subs.proxad.net. [91.175.207.237]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d13sm3502246wro.23.2021.03.18.08.01.55 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:01:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:01:54 +0100 Message-ID: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42c; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi Eric, This is with ebdb 0.6.22. I set up gnus to have a window configuration that shows the *Group*, *Summary*, *Article* windows simultaneously: (gnus-add-configuration '(article (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 50 (group 1.0)) (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.3 point) (article 1.0))))) (gnus-add-configuration '(summary (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 50 (group 1.0)) (vertical 1.0 (summary 1.0 point))))) And also to pop up a new frame whenever I write a message: (dolist (key '(message edit-article post reply forward reply-yank bug)) (gnus-add-configuration `(,key (frame 1.0 (if (not (buffer-live-p gnus-summary-buffer)) (car (cdr (assoc 'group gnus-buffer-configuration))) (car (cdr (assoc 'summary gnus-buffer-configuration)))) (vertical ((user-position . t) (top . 1) (left . 1) (name . ,(symbol-name key))) (message 1.0 point)))))) Unfortunately, when ebdb-mua-pop-up is t, two things happen: 1. When I enter a group from the *Group* buffer, I end up with only the *Summary* and *Article* buffer. 2. When I reply to a message, I don=CA=BCt get a new frame popping up. Setting ebdb-mua-pop-up to nil fixes both those, but then I don=CA=BCt have an ebdb window. Thanks Robert In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 29, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, = cairo version 1.16.0) of 2021-03-12 built on rltb Repository revision: 14b54cea1756f4d66c7376c55cf4aa88e8c3c0c3 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12010000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid Configured using: 'configure --enable-check-lisp-object-type' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: ELisp/d Minor modes in effect: recentf-mode: t TeX-PDF-mode: t whitespace-mode: t which-function-mode: t hl-line-mode: t key-chord-mode: t helm-mode: t helm-descbinds-mode: t 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romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 867595 90642) (symbols 48 53737 1) (strings 32 278875 8185) (string-bytes 1 8871036) (vectors 16 98013) (vector-slots 8 1587936 73883) (floats 8 517 156) (intervals 56 9084 888) (buffers 992 69)) Robert --=20 From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.16160849599918 (code B ref 47236); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 16:29:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47877 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMvWQ-0002Zt-Q1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 12:29:19 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:45436 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMvWP-0002Ze-5k for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 12:29:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 68D32FA0E3; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:29:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1616084951; bh=fytc9cv7+Vdh6mrAYSFbEjtuC7oBCQ1B7cPUXMehJEA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=hAYKkXy1hn1jpnMRKeofZKpEUrlWsNQ1tShe5GzZMmXO5LrkBf7ASNfM91Ku54ond MIChgaf77nUUUzl3hkxBT3zobNmLJCvvHNK6BDjuEtol0eyVgiAdc7SA0AM/BUQI8F EOoZ6q8Jia1Z9FA4+u8nwt8d/UwfdVCVj+ncGrNs= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:29:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:01:54 +0100") Message-ID: <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Robert Pluim writes: > Hi Eric, > > This is with ebdb 0.6.22. > > I set up gnus to have a window configuration that shows the *Group*, > *Summary*, *Article* windows simultaneously: > > (gnus-add-configuration > '(article > (horizontal 1.0 > (vertical 50 (group 1.0)) > (vertical 1.0 > (summary 0.3 point) > (article 1.0))))) > (gnus-add-configuration > '(summary > (horizontal 1.0 > (vertical 50 (group 1.0)) > (vertical 1.0 (summary 1.0 point))))) > > And also to pop up a new frame whenever I write a message: > > (dolist (key '(message edit-article post reply forward reply-yank bug)) > (gnus-add-configuration > `(,key > (frame 1.0 > (if (not (buffer-live-p gnus-summary-buffer)) > (car (cdr (assoc 'group gnus-buffer-configuration))) > (car (cdr (assoc 'summary gnus-buffer-configuration)))) > (vertical ((user-position . t) (top . 1) (left . 1) > (name . ,(symbol-name key))) > (message 1.0 point)))))) > > Unfortunately, when ebdb-mua-pop-up is t, two things happen: > > 1. When I enter a group from the *Group* buffer, I end up with only > the *Summary* and *Article* buffer. > > 2. When I reply to a message, I don=CA=BCt get a new frame popping up. Ooh, I don't look forward to messing with Gnus' window configuration. So first of all, the relevant customization options will be: ebdb-gnus-window-configuration ebdb-message-reply-window-config ebdb-message-reply-yank-window-config They can be used to add the relevant clauses to `gnus-buffer-configuration'. (Composing new mail/news doesn't need this config, because the EBDB buffer won't be popped up until you start completing addresses.) Of course this doesn't make any sense at all, because it obliges you to define your entire (e.g.) `article' configuration inside an EBDB-specific customization option, rather than in your Gnus config. ebdb-gnus.el and ebdb-message.el each add keys to `gnus-window-to-buffer', so probably all the EBDB code should do is mention those keys, and then let users put them where they want them in their `gnus-add-configuration' clauses. EXCEPT that will mean that EBDB won't work with Gnus/Message out of the box without some fairly heavy configuration. It won't be at all obvious why the pop-ups aren't working. MAYBE I should just stop messing with `gnus-buffer-configuration' at all, and instead just do this stuff manually with the `display-buffer' mechanisms. Anyway, I'm thinking out loud here, but if you'd be willing to try the config options above and just confirm that you can get things working as desired that way, I will think a bit more about a better approach to the whole thing. Thanks, Eric From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 18:57:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162266019322444 (code B ref 47236); Wed, 02 Jun 2021 18:57:03 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2021 18:56:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41343 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loW2b-0005pu-Cc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:56:33 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:53276 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1loW2Z-0005ph-9e for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:56:31 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-184-122.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.184.122]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D22AAFA155; Wed, 2 Jun 2021 18:56:23 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1622660184; bh=8HxGA8CBvlIyB7H7Q2ASt3ADD9S2wCOxZM5A1fIn76k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=jzxmNbIxDYIy8luFpMuc/LWP/uuN7sS7OAA2P74ftE65XE4pNZFNkvInIchQLos19 4zf4eStOYa7YEUk5L1ajPMTk+jNOKGWYg2nQUF4ZHb4XmctNZdTKbuQgOLxJ+RDbkz vdw3j9N7FwCX7T8zibIkpc1VewygDJg1/xHtUXwE= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 11:56:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:29:09 -0700") Message-ID: <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Robert Pluim writes: > >> Hi Eric, >> >> This is with ebdb 0.6.22. >> >> I set up gnus to have a window configuration that shows the *Group*, >> *Summary*, *Article* windows simultaneously: >> >> (gnus-add-configuration >> '(article >> (horizontal 1.0 >> (vertical 50 (group 1.0)) >> (vertical 1.0 >> (summary 0.3 point) >> (article 1.0))))) >> (gnus-add-configuration >> '(summary >> (horizontal 1.0 >> (vertical 50 (group 1.0)) >> (vertical 1.0 (summary 1.0 point))))) >> >> And also to pop up a new frame whenever I write a message: >> >> (dolist (key '(message edit-article post reply forward reply-yank bug)) >> (gnus-add-configuration >> `(,key >> (frame 1.0 >> (if (not (buffer-live-p gnus-summary-buffer)) >> (car (cdr (assoc 'group gnus-buffer-configuration))) >> (car (cdr (assoc 'summary gnus-buffer-configuration)))) >> (vertical ((user-position . t) (top . 1) (left . 1) >> (name . ,(symbol-name key))) >> (message 1.0 point)))))) >> >> Unfortunately, when ebdb-mua-pop-up is t, two things happen: >> >> 1. When I enter a group from the *Group* buffer, I end up with only >> the *Summary* and *Article* buffer. >> >> 2. When I reply to a message, I don=CA=BCt get a new frame popping up. > > Ooh, I don't look forward to messing with Gnus' window configuration. So > first of all, the relevant customization options will be: > > ebdb-gnus-window-configuration > ebdb-message-reply-window-config > ebdb-message-reply-yank-window-config > > They can be used to add the relevant clauses to > `gnus-buffer-configuration'. (Composing new mail/news doesn't need this > config, because the EBDB buffer won't be popped up until you start > completing addresses.) > > Of course this doesn't make any sense at all, because it obliges you to > define your entire (e.g.) `article' configuration inside an > EBDB-specific customization option, rather than in your Gnus config. Okay, I've just pushed a new update to EBDB that should come down the pipeline in the next few hours. It greatly simplifies all the above: if you don't touch anything, it will attempt to display the *EBDB* buffer next to the *Article* buffer (in Gnus), or next to the reply composition buffer (in message-mode). If you're using Gnus' window config stuff, as you are, then you can set two options like so: (setq ebdb-gnus-window-configuration 'ebdb-gnus ebdb-message-window-configuration 'ebdb-message) And then use those two symbols inside your `gnus-add-configuration' trees. They can be any symbols you like, but should be distinct (because Gnus and message-mode will update two distinct buffers). This is in 0.6.23, which should appear later today. Please let me know when you've had a chance to try it out! Eric From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162455579110412 (code B ref 47236); Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2021 17:29:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44041 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwTAk-0002hs-Mr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 13:29:51 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:52874 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwTAg-0002hU-7m for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 13:29:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-184-122.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.184.122]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B576EFA09B; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:29:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1624555780; bh=wjQNGNvmtzt8WhX/QF5aDVi8YttzPO76sSQEwBMpr7U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=f3ZXD7rVf+DH/DWhljvofYYuhVerOOsVQrco833R9WsBE5XUVC5jD0da2/zgy21AE eIu9bNStEoqiZycf4r5qrtM5awtx64rEi1mrO8u07BQp/JmB/VNhcLPK8QwvDTSDEr m8gmr0UPiCgcTm+t7koO+kfN8XQlcFhCD7u3bw5U= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:29:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 02 Jun 2021 11:56:21 -0700") Message-ID: <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Robert Pluim writes: >> >>> Hi Eric, >>> >>> This is with ebdb 0.6.22. >>> >>> I set up gnus to have a window configuration that shows the *Group*, >>> *Summary*, *Article* windows simultaneously: >>> >>> (gnus-add-configuration >>> '(article >>> (horizontal 1.0 >>> (vertical 50 (group 1.0)) >>> (vertical 1.0 >>> (summary 0.3 point) >>> (article 1.0))))) >>> (gnus-add-configuration >>> '(summary >>> (horizontal 1.0 >>> (vertical 50 (group 1.0)) >>> (vertical 1.0 (summary 1.0 point))))) >>> >>> And also to pop up a new frame whenever I write a message: >>> >>> (dolist (key '(message edit-article post reply forward reply-yank bug)) >>> (gnus-add-configuration >>> `(,key >>> (frame 1.0 >>> (if (not (buffer-live-p gnus-summary-buffer)) >>> (car (cdr (assoc 'group gnus-buffer-configuration))) >>> (car (cdr (assoc 'summary gnus-buffer-configuration)))) >>> (vertical ((user-position . t) (top . 1) (left . 1) >>> (name . ,(symbol-name key))) >>> (message 1.0 point)))))) >>> >>> Unfortunately, when ebdb-mua-pop-up is t, two things happen: >>> >>> 1. When I enter a group from the *Group* buffer, I end up with only >>> the *Summary* and *Article* buffer. >>> >>> 2. When I reply to a message, I don=CA=BCt get a new frame popping up. >> >> Ooh, I don't look forward to messing with Gnus' window configuration. So >> first of all, the relevant customization options will be: >> >> ebdb-gnus-window-configuration >> ebdb-message-reply-window-config >> ebdb-message-reply-yank-window-config >> >> They can be used to add the relevant clauses to >> `gnus-buffer-configuration'. (Composing new mail/news doesn't need this >> config, because the EBDB buffer won't be popped up until you start >> completing addresses.) >> >> Of course this doesn't make any sense at all, because it obliges you to >> define your entire (e.g.) `article' configuration inside an >> EBDB-specific customization option, rather than in your Gnus config. > > Okay, I've just pushed a new update to EBDB that should come down the > pipeline in the next few hours. > > It greatly simplifies all the above: if you don't touch anything, it > will attempt to display the *EBDB* buffer next to the *Article* buffer > (in Gnus), or next to the reply composition buffer (in message-mode). > > If you're using Gnus' window config stuff, as you are, then you can set > two options like so: > > (setq ebdb-gnus-window-configuration 'ebdb-gnus > ebdb-message-window-configuration 'ebdb-message) > > And then use those two symbols inside your `gnus-add-configuration' > trees. They can be any symbols you like, but should be distinct > (because Gnus and message-mode will update two distinct buffers). > > This is in 0.6.23, which should appear later today. > > Please let me know when you've had a chance to try it out! Do let me know if you've tried the new version (or if you're no longer using EBDB!), and I will close this out. Thanks, Eric From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162461254230896 (code B ref 47236); Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2021 09:15:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44854 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwhw6-00082B-46 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 05:15:42 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f41.google.com ([209.85.221.41]:36793) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwhw2-00081p-EZ for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 05:15:40 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f41.google.com with SMTP id l12so9073975wrt.3 for <47236@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:15:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7U4dj+U2JGFvuDXvAYivcz/JKeE9gh3aLmPv1N/6G5U=; b=TSFlW53AY9ZiCpGzX1BR6KrGpq4m6z8mntfBllAAHcKnSFqrUZP+K2ag+wCeK0WKGH ki7UBXyfLm6FVlKekjMNfivPSjRE46Q3L81n7hM9gWp1bSxeRmST9GOmW1lBgPsxPgi3 MExwOu1kl8Sfo0QM9nRePM1GOV40vD3Zswxcd6RehWnGrRqeWEFP+Jt8OCxfVdc3MRR4 lrmqtkeqWr4kZR/weTWnuUw3ajWXassVq3yEXvZsGeaiKHx1ZdPlx5iCVqEPMkeJ7DYq 1jLfXNAjuDH0CytEkKl/myOMN9MqPnJZLMaL90+6H0cUQYbOfIz+HIsjmu5kTFi/KnHE 80vg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7U4dj+U2JGFvuDXvAYivcz/JKeE9gh3aLmPv1N/6G5U=; b=PS5g1lJADQCEOYJvydo9MOIvJHLm0OZA07U2QPDLacYZ7ZkC5jwr8d8gVWAnPo9BAu Nzc/N/upXs+pLIjHtYMlFerxVkakOWNy4grLmC0XHQDTZHfB82rWnN/onH8GF2jkzKx1 K/Ej/ulhhIyCFB5ArkkVFsOVd7oWxLYK4sVuPVopSVrTE7u6Q/hjnsdgn0I3nE5Vl7Xa nMoABNM7Tgs7vihUOUH4Ny4dp6xQPRzhBtr1XUE+XbeBATuG/i+zx3PVPu8sUpkVDkv5 I4ynehqREdOEZv+q2u+9XVFsy7P3SIc3vcDReaNBtbB6+VZOY8Xcu1yZOrB/3li0Vrtk bCKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530FTEN6swp6pAUPPnWXmOYl4CrWuUAuWy8PtrZ7i44S2j7sn5Fs Yv/sOSJ7D0hwL5NJt5hM4ND5NkbW5iY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzBD2k7QanfIrK7LsMUvpk48pCwZzf/fUJnrNiW1hMMw+R94bVd8m8Ad9iBCXRW1W9Lh65H3w== X-Received: by 2002:adf:b605:: with SMTP id f5mr9705670wre.419.1624612532128; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x3sm10441112wmi.42.2021.06.25.02.15.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:15:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:15:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:29:38 -0700") Message-ID: <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:29:38 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen said: Eric> Do let me know if you've tried the new version (or if you're no l= onger Eric> using EBDB!), and I will close this out. Sorry Eric, I=CA=BCve been a bit busy. I=CA=BCll see if I can get to this t= his weekend. Thanks Robert --=20 From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 23:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162466211515529 (code B ref 47236); Fri, 25 Jun 2021 23:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2021 23:01:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwupf-00042P-7P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:01:55 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:58370 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwupc-000423-Fe for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:01:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (75-172-126-110.tukw.qwest.net [75.172.126.110]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1B0CFA09B; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 23:01:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1624662106; bh=qBysph9bpgfj8LmyUjKuC32lG7TyTl6O1ZG3qC7BlCo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=K7CM0R1RPuLWlvTPcFXDSs9KHGS0Nxsby/xGWbPtslaBYJoPdv7nLedEphPi88LLP W7e3XEl93YxeIG4uqjnssEdh6XmTUTR18wpfa9syR8uLa3Id/zUe0ZroSg3Oegmsiz ecD4TMi3zvPBaD22fFoZKCybZ/B2HeXG1fEN+kdk= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 16:01:43 -0700 In-Reply-To: <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:15:30 +0200") Message-ID: <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Robert Pluim writes: >>>>>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:29:38 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen said: > > Eric> Do let me know if you've tried the new version (or if you're no= longer > Eric> using EBDB!), and I will close this out. > > Sorry Eric, I=CA=BCve been a bit busy. I=CA=BCll see if I can get to this= this > weekend. No rush at all! I'd just suspected you weren't using it anymore, in which case I wouldn't wait :) From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations In-Reply-To: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162488492124178 (code B ref 47236); Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2021 12:55:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51256 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lxqnI-0006Hu-QN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:55:21 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f52.google.com ([209.85.128.52]:54822) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lxqnE-0006Ha-PU for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:55:18 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f52.google.com with SMTP id u20so6216941wmq.4 for <47236@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:55:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q7evqX3EeH1ObDDFchNiNqe41rRJcu3g0NUjIF0n6YA=; b=GBb35hj9DG4+DGMzI1HbSr9pStrYg8esA0XH77lltLdNpnaUxJzIlRQfo4hseCDQWA PqjXrLe58nzTTIgs4OzPpBMowWlp6UcTHdp3zPjOosBiviVzo7c7HPzp0D5knHZYV4Ba KiLutDIIHBrfGgLcaqy23Hr0VCyarVndxAHxAgIL/7c+KkhXU9AQcufxxiUxBsRu+4Dc AaQ9/HPxn2SlY6Vzar6arLdKrmhLGg3b8dRqiIquPQvPIGrY8rwY2MF2XR7naTx8eZoz 6OlRz2qf1JJk5ZWPvj4+k1P+TDpAYeI/DZ58A/XAI20vdwS3emY06vL22AVrSWOL5ae/ VpgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q7evqX3EeH1ObDDFchNiNqe41rRJcu3g0NUjIF0n6YA=; b=U1Nq/Z6htrrQcCeyCHiTZuGHNSN7K1xn0UcNVvj5O6I2iP3wTFH3ndJRA+2MmeJSE4 JowLxDjtqmHGvLPnRdujnQd8vocgnW9wWmeEZWmWD3KaLoVE8LnSXVReh02yfavE7GQ5 5elXj1jmHQoQI2DwjPHwwrFHCI7IZFxxZD4kGAqunbOVU+KbqX1tHNx1uVSo1Kc22zcj p8JXXnVS6aR5ujNf2maK+XbaPnf/Z6ifbJMyFqPpdE32K3bMlX1Wqt9HtpXTBHezdLee 2yTymw/8qquTJNMPS1y1FQJB64eVPIqrdb0YLViE1nAPESeY31/2OoLyIdH2E7zbJpgh NJkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531idYUMEaDagHrtNMxoz3vv+Ooe2Fiio/hW35TsZbRvIKly1cGi KxeJyMHjCp0ANlHxePDBciFBmcOyvds= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxGNjmt1VHdf0QWDJGVTJHonO18gQBGdjDo/KLTw/iWDtqDYcGo32JcWTsV3m3xDURs/9NMIg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:24c:: with SMTP id 12mr25874745wmj.174.1624884910259; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t16sm20280915wmi.2.2021.06.28.05.55.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:55:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:55:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 16:01:43 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen said: Eric> Robert Pluim writes: >>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:29:38 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen said: >>=20 Eric> Do let me know if you've tried the new version (or if you're no l= onger Eric> using EBDB!), and I will close this out. >>=20 >> Sorry Eric, I=CA=BCve been a bit busy. I=CA=BCll see if I can get to= this this >> weekend. Eric> No rush at all! I'd just suspected you weren't using it anymore, = in Eric> which case I wouldn't wait :) Hmm, I=CA=BCve got it working for the summary/article/group configurations, but not for message. I=CA=BCm getting gnus-configure--frame: Invalid buffer type: ebdb-message I think this means that you need to add something like the following to ebdb-insinuate-mssage (when ebdb-message-window-configuration (add-to-list 'gnus-window-to-buffer (cons ebdb-message-window-configuration (ebdb-message-buffer-name)))) And maybe you need to add an ebdb-mail-window-configuration variable, and use that instead of ebdb-message-window-configuration in ebdb-insinuate-mail? Thanks for the fixes. Robert --=20 From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations In-Reply-To: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 16:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.162489722321106 (code B ref -1); Mon, 28 Jun 2021 16:21:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2021 16:20:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52324 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lxtzi-0005UL-LI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:20:22 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:59662) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lxtzh-0005UE-AI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:20:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lxtzh-0003aO-2V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:20:21 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:51196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lxtzf-0008OV-4O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:20:20 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lxtzb-0001Bk-6A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:20:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Eric Abrahamsen Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:20:05 -0700 Message-ID: <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/+i7PxwXsJ8t+lCO2DDJDpLSaxE= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Robert Pluim writes: >>>>>> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 16:01:43 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen said: > > Eric> Robert Pluim writes: > >>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:29:38 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen said: > >> > Eric> Do let me know if you've tried the new version (or if you're no longer > Eric> using EBDB!), and I will close this out. > >> > >> Sorry Eric, Iʼve been a bit busy. Iʼll see if I can get to this this > >> weekend. > > Eric> No rush at all! I'd just suspected you weren't using it anymore, in > Eric> which case I wouldn't wait :) > > Hmm, Iʼve got it working for the summary/article/group configurations, > but not for message. Iʼm getting > > gnus-configure--frame: Invalid buffer type: ebdb-message > > I think this means that you need to add something like the following > to ebdb-insinuate-mssage > > (when ebdb-message-window-configuration > (add-to-list 'gnus-window-to-buffer > (cons ebdb-message-window-configuration > (ebdb-message-buffer-name)))) Oh, I thought I had! I think I was gluing together the mail and message functions in my brain. > And maybe you need to add an ebdb-mail-window-configuration variable, > and use that instead of ebdb-message-window-configuration in > ebdb-insinuate-mail? I'm not sure that's necessary -- it's a bit weird to have the wrong name in there if you're using mail-mode, but it would only cause trouble if a user was using _both_ message-mode and mail-mode, and wanted separate *EBDB* buffers for each. I think this can safely do double duty. Thanks for the report, and the chance to clean up some dumb code. From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 07:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.16249527091930 (code B ref 47236); Tue, 29 Jun 2021 07:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2021 07:45:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ly8Qf-0000V4-9e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 03:45:09 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f43.google.com ([209.85.128.43]:34336) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ly8Qc-0000UD-Cs for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 03:45:07 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f43.google.com with SMTP id u5-20020a7bc0450000b02901480e40338bso1057661wmc.1 for <47236@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 00:45:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=17g0x9xHWcyOagAy9qVNPMfw3/IaSz77XXb81Ca0RQc=; b=kSr3zSpyaScErMx5X5tzHMYG+aZPUUznrngNzIUvvxv0I5Je3Kd+ZDy00evq0aQH5L iAAq1P6WAMOvqef6qAryaHery4ImSopHYoutl88D8CPJaVJDBlko4Ogmra63GLAJXQ2Y RWhZhAp46MnwZ6mOkKIsnWm4VcGB0+3p8lUc0Fr3pV2Vk/xZkNk6Pa8T/iqcqxy6fflG Mx8+xTagMDrs8I8f9YgsUgx87WI3Eifwaa8vEHGkwgeIeNxO3OpKpwIHbyZuvn+qK6ix BjqBbHFiNCsEU5sa6PlMskYJwOjin0D1nMyAZooScuxt0/j4z7E/TdEDuwUjPyPm5h9N QiHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=17g0x9xHWcyOagAy9qVNPMfw3/IaSz77XXb81Ca0RQc=; b=QcLPDC53CCg+TwjVTnRDhjWiZl/W9Q0TQKfLouTBTWzBAI+Pvzf5Piqaks19bROs8W re5TK4nyfem7k0XRWAQoeq2FlucEXPMmsYNl/jao+CPEdx1tnSsH7f3V5OwKe6D/WJj4 Cfvq1evb/mV8jNCtHxUmdvN+SodcJOwqLB9kVhVMXfVFF5kNA58tAL7RrPV9Pu1QY9J1 bDqf4OK1rfekR0YhCOfkdGMZBCwhoOXJpiGMOuwwpRfSKQu5LaC/jh9CBn/tSCtCuoh5 JHGf4/4oImK8MEonn8H8hy4TmvePw3Yx+/D2bajeXkhMH0RCZXnFZrd7rh1E0530wWML IYxA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530HjzsNEbsxZSsHb3h0f30vuo2gVsdEzfeRlZu6d0p/SpM1Tbpu 4GuuMljo1aiTQx8YQoNkLxn81khbO7w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzI+vQCs5UVw1GJmpaTI7+zx0r+22/RdCK1YFtROd+MT45JnOxEiFuBmHjkGdvBQDYE/fhtaw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:4843:: with SMTP id j3mr4115700wmo.73.1624952700047; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 00:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b7sm17619374wrw.20.2021.06.29.00.44.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 29 Jun 2021 00:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 09:44:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:20:05 -0700") Message-ID: <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:20:05 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen said: >> (when ebdb-message-window-configuration >> (add-to-list 'gnus-window-to-buffer >> (cons ebdb-message-window-configuration >> (ebdb-message-buffer-name)))) Eric> Oh, I thought I had! I think I was gluing together the mail and m= essage Eric> functions in my brain. Idle thought: maybe we should just remove mail-mode and add some compatibility code pointing at message. >> And maybe you need to add an ebdb-mail-window-configuration variable, >> and use that instead of ebdb-message-window-configuration in >> ebdb-insinuate-mail? Eric> I'm not sure that's necessary -- it's a bit weird to have the wro= ng name Eric> in there if you're using mail-mode, but it would only cause troub= le if a Eric> user was using _both_ message-mode and mail-mode, and wanted sepa= rate Eric> *EBDB* buffers for each. I think this can safely do double duty. One thing I=CA=BCve learned is that saying "there are no Emacs users who use and at the same time" is almost certain to trip you up. But not in this case. Probably. Robert --=20 From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162496722610944 (code B ref 47236); Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2021 11:47:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53757 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyCCo-0002qS-7b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 07:47:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47418) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyCCm-0002py-78 for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 07:47:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51364) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyCCg-0003vx-J9; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 07:46:58 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4227 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyCCd-00077M-1B; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 07:46:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 14:46:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83r1gkopua.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 29 Jun 2021 09:44:58 +0200) References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 09:44:58 +0200 > Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org > > Idle thought: maybe we should just remove mail-mode and add some > compatibility code pointing at message. Please don't. I'm a heavy user of mail-mode, and I hate message-mode (because everything there is slightly off-course from my POV). From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 23:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162500904421613 (code B ref 47236); Tue, 29 Jun 2021 23:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2021 23:24:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN5H-0005cX-Ps for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:24:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56926) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN5G-0005c5-LB for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:24:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN5B-0005EA-15; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:23:57 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN5A-00029O-8B; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:23:56 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 29 Jun 2021 09:44:58 +0200) References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:23:56 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Idle thought: maybe we should just remove mail-mode and add some > compatibility code pointing at message. I use mail-mode. I'd like to give message-mode a try, not under pressure. But I will still need mail-mode to work, for the saved outgoing messages that were formatted in a way that is incompatible with message mode. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations In-Reply-To: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 23:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.162500931922072 (code B ref -1); Tue, 29 Jun 2021 23:29:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2021 23:28:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55932 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN9j-0005ju-2C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:28:39 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:38458) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN9g-0005jl-HY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:28:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55744) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN9g-0004Hf-Ax for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:28:36 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:47002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN9e-0000B1-Io for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:28:36 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lyN9b-0003kX-GJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 01:28:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Eric Abrahamsen Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 16:28:24 -0700 Message-ID: <87bl7o8d47.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:m1MEvoNXgKx58vr8yU4+0a5P+cc= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Robert Pluim writes: >>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:20:05 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen said: > >> (when ebdb-message-window-configuration > >> (add-to-list 'gnus-window-to-buffer > >> (cons ebdb-message-window-configuration > >> (ebdb-message-buffer-name)))) [...] > Eric> I'm not sure that's necessary -- it's a bit weird to have the wrong name > Eric> in there if you're using mail-mode, but it would only cause trouble if a > Eric> user was using _both_ message-mode and mail-mode, and wanted separate > Eric> *EBDB* buffers for each. I think this can safely do double duty. > > One thing Iʼve learned is that saying "there are no Emacs users who > use and at the same time" is almost certain to trip you > up. But not in this case. Probably. That rule does go double for Gnus users, though.... Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 09:44:58 +0200 >> Cc: 47236@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Idle thought: maybe we should just remove mail-mode and add some >> compatibility code pointing at message. > > Please don't. I'm a heavy user of mail-mode, and I hate message-mode > (because everything there is slightly off-course from my POV). I'm unlikely to go and do this! Anyhow, I think this report can be closed now. 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Wed, 30 Jun 2021 02:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l16sm5985763wmj.47.2021.06.30.02.41.35 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 30 Jun 2021 02:41:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 11:41:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:23:56 -0400") Message-ID: <87czs3elkh.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:23:56 -0400, Richard Stallman sa= id: Richard> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please conside= r ]]] Richard> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,= ]]] Richard> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's exam= ple. ]]] >> Idle thought: maybe we should just remove mail-mode and add some >> compatibility code pointing at message. Richard> I use mail-mode. I'd like to give message-mode a try, not und= er pressure. Richard> But I will still need mail-mode to work, for the saved outgoin= g messages Richard> that were formatted in a way that is incompatible with message= mode. I guess you (and Eli) are using rmail? I use message-mode when composing email, but it=CA=BCs not used for displaying saved messages, gnus has a dedicated mode for that. I think I=CA=BCll put my Idle Thought aside for now :-) Robert --=20 From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 12:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, rms@gnu.org, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162505555623480 (code B ref 47236); Wed, 30 Jun 2021 12:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jun 2021 12:19:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56658 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyZBT-00066e-UY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:19:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyZBS-00066P-GR for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:19:14 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36410) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyZBN-0004Mu-0V; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:19:09 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3182 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyZBF-00056M-Tb; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:19:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 15:19:02 +0300 Message-Id: <831r8jo895.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87czs3elkh.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Wed, 30 Jun 2021 11:41:34 +0200) References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> <87czs3elkh.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 11:41:34 +0200 > Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org > > Richard> I use mail-mode. I'd like to give message-mode a try, not under pressure. > Richard> But I will still need mail-mode to work, for the saved outgoing messages > Richard> that were formatted in a way that is incompatible with message mode. > > I guess you (and Eli) are using rmail? That's true, but it's unrelated. mail-mode is for composing messages, so you can use it with any MUA, be it Rmail, Gnus, or whatnot. You determine which mode to use for composing messages by setting mail-user-agent to sendmail-user-agent (as you most probably know), and that is orthogonal to what application is used for reading email. From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 12:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, rms@gnu.org, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.16250577022952 (code B ref 47236); Wed, 30 Jun 2021 12:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jun 2021 12:55:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyZk5-0000lU-V8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:55:02 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f46.google.com ([209.85.221.46]:39795) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyZjt-0000kt-BA for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:55:00 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f46.google.com with SMTP id f14so3143692wrs.6 for <47236@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 05:54:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h5xTeyQMV1RCky7i39WR4EQWkJFJ1mRsDErBNv2f6pk=; b=cyNZYOVBTb4LRn11hXu0NWIockp9ElctYfteIGOZ3HnzUmBajinY/2iGbyLQ2GNtWw 23MiNQAAnKJ3IA8cKLoMVd8pnpewS9IwSidDinry3B1ru1Q2DbGrfufFZsVpUQLSRi7g aTwBLvanL1LCJA9ttrHimtZsce/yyaWSEYXsAw2+cOLWnPeONaq74zz8noIOjexkDIeN dFFMMES2OMQtMCnQx/Cz42Eo1HLoizFs1pAwRAPbuoU37LWddg7gbOPQNaEhPCM25wDx PJuQLc9Un/rG/QaqeAtWN7CsGBCgkJGSnIFa3P6oUSNxQ8mXyaNbzd5yjc58OBsLaaXA vzng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h5xTeyQMV1RCky7i39WR4EQWkJFJ1mRsDErBNv2f6pk=; b=PXMYUIf9EexX/gmFMcSgBHyGnhMIe6/81jndiJnymU7xQo0BfGRZJbrK/dVLlkkJAU keulTq9YRsY5RuAKLm12Vhyw5g14nRgsHf1hVnLBWIr5BPqYIGh0PUCxo/2QZHjp3L8Z 5e+jGS/zY3MtKsh6B9QFK/l0KToLrJVYdaT+knv0tKm+oXh5WEjPxk009bP2NyoX5TBj tyFp5WdpQrAbD2kOl3FnaZTGOPyPxMq9lIbp1nL/jt8J6jCDqOhTdt835PAqBzjDBC/U BlPd3EQKg8l37p50Dp/ICV+kzzsm7j1GO1t1zRe2JphDwd6KiQqGpaRojZQv63hYpWJO fIHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531oHciPU3UJE/lbrm2AR9JwJNDvK153Ilu4s2xq3tPujsJQUprV +PMl5WnNjO3wlxkLTTCdLrdacvbOCco= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwC/YL8K8PZ2bkPg+N9LT1Qz2ExxfcvNJHsrxLLi+ZX1Dr6rfTzsnomeMOlcmUQvfWqr/nROA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e7c1:: with SMTP id e1mr17541313wrn.198.1625057682974; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 05:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e15sm2695146wrp.29.2021.06.30.05.54.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 30 Jun 2021 05:54:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> <87czs3elkh.fsf@gmail.com> <831r8jo895.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 14:54:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <831r8jo895.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 30 Jun 2021 15:19:02 +0300") Message-ID: <87zgv7cy26.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 15:19:02 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 11:41:34 +0200 >> Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 Richard> I use mail-mode. I'd like to give message-mode a try, not und= er pressure. Richard> But I will still need mail-mode to work, for the saved outgoin= g messages Richard> that were formatted in a way that is incompatible with message= mode. >>=20 >> I guess you (and Eli) are using rmail? Eli> That's true, but it's unrelated. mail-mode is for composing messa= ges, Eli> so you can use it with any MUA, be it Rmail, Gnus, or whatnot. You Eli> determine which mode to use for composing messages by setting Eli> mail-user-agent to sendmail-user-agent (as you most probably know), Eli> and that is orthogonal to what application is used for reading ema= il. Yes, but then I don=CA=BCt understand Richard's comment about 'saved outgoing messages'. Robert --=20 From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 13:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, rms@gnu.org, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.162505918413935 (code B ref 47236); Wed, 30 Jun 2021 13:20:01 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jun 2021 13:19:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56793 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lya7z-0003ch-S5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:19:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lya7x-0003cS-RP for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:19:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37886) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lya7s-0002UW-CC; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:19:36 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2959 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lya7m-0003E7-90; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:19:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 16:19:33 +0300 Message-Id: <83lf6rmqvu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87zgv7cy26.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Wed, 30 Jun 2021 14:54:41 +0200) References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> <87czs3elkh.fsf@gmail.com> <831r8jo895.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgv7cy26.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: rms@gnu.org, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 14:54:41 +0200 > > Eli> That's true, but it's unrelated. mail-mode is for composing messages, > Eli> so you can use it with any MUA, be it Rmail, Gnus, or whatnot. You > Eli> determine which mode to use for composing messages by setting > Eli> mail-user-agent to sendmail-user-agent (as you most probably know), > Eli> and that is orthogonal to what application is used for reading email. > > Yes, but then I donʼt understand Richard's comment about 'saved > outgoing messages'. I think it's a misunderstanding. The effect of message mode on display, while not identical to mail-mode, is quite similar, AFAIR. From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 00:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, rpluim@gmail.com, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.16251852297918 (code B ref 47236); Fri, 02 Jul 2021 00:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2021 00:20:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33857 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lz6uz-00023d-90 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2021 20:20:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lz6uw-00023Q-Kz for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2021 20:20:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lz6up-0008EP-EL; Thu, 01 Jul 2021 20:20:21 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lz6uo-00016B-LM; Thu, 01 Jul 2021 20:20:18 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <83lf6rmqvu.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 30 Jun 2021 16:19:33 +0300) References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> <87czs3elkh.fsf@gmail.com> <831r8jo895.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgv7cy26.fsf@gmail.com> <83lf6rmqvu.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2021 20:20:18 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I think it's a misunderstanding. The effect of message mode on > display, while not identical to mail-mode, is quite similar, AFAIR. I don't clearly understand "effect...on display", but it isn't about what displays. I have hundreds of thousands of files, each containing one old outgoing message in a format like the one below, with --text follows this line-- separating body from headers. I want to continue to be able to edit them, even send one again and edit it if necessary. I also have some custom functions that work with Mail mode that I would need to adapt for Message mode. Probably not deeply difficult, but I'd need some help finding my way around Message mode to redo them. ====================================================================== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: ...name redacted... Subject: Problem with your phone system bcc: rms-outgoing@gnu.org Reply-to: rms@gnu.org --text follows this line-- [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I just called you and got the answering system. The personal message from you was very low volume; I could barely hear it. Then the standard message, "Please leave a message after the beep; then you can hang up or press ..." was much louder -- just the right volume, I would say. So the low volume on the personal part of the message must be a problem in your system. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. ====================================================================== -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Fri Sep 19 16:07:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#47236: 28.0.50; ebdb-mua-pop-up bad interaction with gnus window configurations Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 06:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, rpluim@gmail.com, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 47236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47236.16252061527864 (code B ref 47236); Fri, 02 Jul 2021 06:10:01 +0000 Received: (at 47236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2021 06:09:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34027 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lzCMS-00022m-Hh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 02:09:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lzCMR-00022Y-06 for 47236@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 02:09:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51984) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzCML-0007fB-Jq; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 02:09:05 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2756 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzCMD-0006U9-Ca; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 02:08:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 09:08:54 +0300 Message-Id: <83pmw1jlhl.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 01 Jul 2021 20:20:18 -0400) References: <877dm4y07x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgz0jui2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87im2wqene.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1gr188t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875yy2qp8t.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8btwnu0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg12du8j.fsf@gmail.com> <8735t2vu4q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0mddshx.fsf@gmail.com> <87czs3elkh.fsf@gmail.com> <831r8jo895.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgv7cy26.fsf@gmail.com> <83lf6rmqvu.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 47236@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2021 20:20:18 -0400 > > I have hundreds of thousands of files, each containing one old > outgoing message in a format like the one below, with --text follows > this line-- separating body from headers. I want to continue to be > able to edit them, even send one again and edit it if necessary. I see no reason why message-mode will get in the way for these messages; in particular, it supports the same "--text follows this line--" marker. But perhaps I misunderstand what features of mail-mode you are using when you handle these files. Can you list a few mail-mode commands you use with them? > I also have some custom functions that work with Mail mode > that I would need to adapt for Message mode. Right, that might be some work. Anyway, I don't think we will be removing mail-mode any time soon.