From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 14 04:25:11 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2021 08:25:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32934 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lLM3g-0001UL-1y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 04:25:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54062) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lLM3a-0001U8-PZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 04:25:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLM3a-00071k-K5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 04:25:02 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:50067) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLM3Y-0002R4-NJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 04:25:02 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.141.35]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E1D9.00000000604DC83A.00004737; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:24:25 -0700 From: Jean Louis To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; Library chart: colors sometimes appear, sometimes not X-Hashcash: 1:20:210314:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::x29z5RV5pWnVG0q7:00000000000000000000000000000000000000002Jgs Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 11:23:30 +0300 Message-ID: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=admin@protected.rcdrun.com; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Here is one example chart: M-x load-library RET chart RET (chart-bar-quickie 'vertical "People's Acknowledgments" '("Joe" "Jane" "Jean" "Jenny") "Acknowledged people" '(6.0 4.0 4.0 4.0) "Person") Colors sometimes appear, sometimes not. Sometimes I get just drawings instead of colors. I am using extensively chart library and I used in last months, somewhere last month or short time before, I have seen that sometimes I do not see any colors. Because I have not changed anything on my side I think that developers changed something and now there is problem with colors. I have tried already everything to determine what is wrong. I cannot find where is problem, and I have nothing in my configuration that changes the chart library. I have tried invoking the above chart function after any loading of any librari in my init, and it worked well. The above chart function sits in my indestructible *scratch* and I run Emacs as server, then comes the client and I evaluate that function. Sometimes on the first invokation of emacsclient after initialization I will see colors. Sometimes I will not see colors. That says to me that it is most probably not related to my configuration. It appear to be random. In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 8, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo versio= n 1.14.8, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2021-03-07 built on protected.rcdrun.com Repository revision: 468bb5ab7f949441f68c4133fcd5292dfbbfd83d Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11907000 System Description: Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/home/data1/protected/GNUstep/Library/Libraries/pkgconfi= g:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dexwm-xim locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort hashcash mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json map text-property-search time-date subr-x seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils iso-transl tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 52571 9150) (symbols 48 7179 1) (strings 32 20106 1997) (string-bytes 1 640908) (vectors 16 12149) (vector-slots 8 169140 9988) (floats 8 26 42) (intervals 56 228 0) (buffers 992 11)) --=20 Thanks, Jean Louis =E2=8E=94 =CE=BB =F0=9F=84=AF =F0=9D=8D=84 =F0=9D=8C=A1 =F0=9D=8C=9A From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 02:47:53 2021 Received: (at 47133) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 06:47:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMmRk-000895-U3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 02:47:53 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMmRj-00088p-Ay for 47133@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 02:47:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lfuFbRp3UDmqddG+y53l50vwcrtVME4R4vMNeAWm6ZU=; b=CJM8k7ceclIY6QVKZ8AsF7Huq0 KSGAkWvDiuNbbvnBumP5KCI7FeKHRSJ6uK3QzmHUk8Rgaqm/xyg6GrHAbOTt4t+ZO8V7gcquTHbpg p5q/WzDQus6YaIIzM9SPu520F7gMi0yXG+kPpSh0rt6w/ZLTvqe3hkYMvlE5qV9MdgA4=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lMmRa-0000iO-TX; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:47:45 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Jean Louis Subject: Re: bug#47133: 28.0.50; Library chart: colors sometimes appear, sometimes not References: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> X-Now-Playing: DJ Torture's _Natural Sciences: Age in Decline_: "Mason" Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:47:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> (Jean Louis's message of "Sun, 14 Mar 2021 11:23:30 +0300") Message-ID: <87a6r1rm9e.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Jean Louis writes: > The above chart function sits in my indestructible *scratch* and I run > Emacs as server, then comes the client and I evaluate that > function. Sometimes on the first invokation of emacsclient after [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47133 Cc: 47133@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Jean Louis writes: > The above chart function sits in my indestructible *scratch* and I run > Emacs as server, then comes the client and I evaluate that > function. Sometimes on the first invokation of emacsclient after > initialization I will see colors. Sometimes I will not see colors. That > says to me that it is most probably not related to my configuration. > > It appear to be random. Perhaps it's a case of what display that's active when you're loading chart.el? What's the value of `chart-face-list' when you don't see any colours? It's defined as: (defvar chart-face-list (if (display-color-p) ... so if the display in question doesn't support colours when loading, you'll get no colours on any display, I think. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 05:09:55 2021 Received: (at 47133) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 09:09:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45030 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMofD-0003HD-Bs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:09:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41066) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMofA-0003Gy-Iv for 47133@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:09:53 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51521) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMof5-00008r-49; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:09:47 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2973 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lMof4-0000wx-9C; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:09:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:09:44 +0200 Message-Id: <835z1ode07.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87a6r1rm9e.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:47:41 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#47133: 28.0.50; Library chart: colors sometimes appear, sometimes not References: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87a6r1rm9e.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47133 Cc: 47133@debbugs.gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:47:41 +0100 > Cc: 47133@debbugs.gnu.org > > Perhaps it's a case of what display that's active when you're loading > chart.el? What's the value of `chart-face-list' when you don't see any > colours? It's defined as: > > (defvar chart-face-list > (if (display-color-p) > ... > > so if the display in question doesn't support colours when loading, > you'll get no colours on any display, I think. Which displays nowadays don't support colors in Emacs? Does anyone still use such displays? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 05:17:52 2021 Received: (at 47133) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 09:17:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMomu-0003TG-6t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:17:52 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41292) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMoms-0003T3-2I for 47133@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:17:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XYZxpNBzn4lChbKslz7T1N8vVHYQ1FfDjKuSQy4ebec=; b=vBxezQqEQL3crQZLvjXaS/0vmB LEi2u/NKKHKMu0TU95FzS23K2kFCXAp5o/T1G07VFyDuQq9XbTDk9YIYv9HwdZzAZZvGxK0+rV4uU nUBUamJ8z9MzJSOZe6Gvdn9A315ipUQHdDApzruICNvEd4NXClhG8ieUH1ES7BMzCqcg=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lMomf-000229-QL; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:17:43 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#47133: 28.0.50; Library chart: colors sometimes appear, sometimes not References: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87a6r1rm9e.fsf@gnus.org> <835z1ode07.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEUdGBaCYm9UPET/ ///ZTkq4AAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+UDEgkQHRH4gFIAAAFTSURBVCjPjVFNa8JAEJ2G BrZ7riX0tIS2rPMrRFDoLQUToicpKI2/Yl1U0hwLSuxpWRC2+ysbk2xs6aVzmrdv9r35APgTAYg2 8+LhTA8cmGTjfld0t09OrgziTF93jA6FP7+oEQZSFHVKOQnzkNkGKAxz1KwWITwMCecNAFKZCaZa ASVpJ+Yht9vOljO17ZgCceNyTxeFI9bppRePPlG+ds0VnJorN93TPTVrV3dTKtKm1haUUmEUmYOf LQ7JcqmzeFtCPB8douhgp/4ugpMc96J0gs/+7hb8dJQuRvEwmU1rb1MZdy3EVPho2nb6L4D7HBvg SzgmRdCAzSscezlzcwIL63XQgVFKK5BYfSIP1ZiI+Uf1AJ6xqxX9zK0oz3ayYji+nxkQlnqagMfR nQQ4N/X1UFhWlX7VW3gUlksr38raCc6MVEH7B7ngIoAf8Qv8O74Bmr1iBcXp8PAAAAAldEVYdGRh dGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMDMtMThUMDk6MTY6MjgrMDA6MDB2mDziAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlm eQAyMDIxLTAzLTE4VDA5OjE2OjI4KzAwOjAwB8WEXgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Clara de Asis's _SHAPE Wire CD'2020_: "Brief Metaphor at a Distance" Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:17:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <835z1ode07.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:09:44 +0200") Message-ID: <87pmzwq0r3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Which displays nowadays don't support colors in Emacs? Does anyone > still use such displays? It's more about not having a display, I suspect. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47133 Cc: 47133@debbugs.gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Which displays nowadays don't support colors in Emacs? Does anyone > still use such displays? It's more about not having a display, I suspect. ./src/emacs -geometry -0+0 -Q --daemon=server -l chart will make chart-face-list nil. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 05:28:33 2021 Received: (at 47133) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 09:28:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45048 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMoxF-0003iY-EI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:28:33 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41346) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMoxD-0003iK-1d for 47133@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:28:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=J+voxF3tTxI7BO90IH4D3zd3rSJZPi+AiSUSNM6uTC8=; b=masZ8L7c0NsTyF7C4osY5ITPgW +mi7wHQ/mTYHGZ6rLUGW2i40nZEw3rKPwGdUDAeyyChxk5tYkxzQ9RlboIalnYUxpsF08epXWXv+N lWBWfpqCFm61K28byJmMwegk4ULPFzAJ5OGdcY2lVYA9/gK1bFMaoTB8yp1kT5Ebd/rU=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lMox4-00027d-40; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:28:24 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#47133: 28.0.50; Library chart: colors sometimes appear, sometimes not References: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87a6r1rm9e.fsf@gnus.org> <835z1ode07.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmzwq0r3.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEWbclq2i2SNcVVN MSasPzb///9/8nd/AAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UDEgkaMkDGVYEAAAGcSURBVDjLdZOL ccMwCEAJ6QBRzwNQ0QES0ABxpP1nKiDLie2ay50lPf4QgAuE5JyZ4tMFUjwj2VmPYL2ZyjjeOlD/ kQNcdUJJ9iZvW+331ZWdIoRK3oi9W0LkKe0AxPM/gCAjWhmCe4DkAVUMRq7cczQQ9SlRpjCyR75b SR6fhQWIwJVZPmKzqDBSNLKXk9FDZ2ZVdSXJutTZi7OrqgCKeIhAi7k9uyqFRhzMguOW1QKFWHQM ZxGgK3qe0XYO0PU0uoh57W4OD2LAIhAT0gAenD0bAB1V9LZjuBcCcj9uNGZp6SO6hZV1eY8WvD3Q AXzOHNiTu5rVADEHXzUDeM1EiwnFPtlsxCtgitkvxUZL0BLybvqeklofrLBYQvbRmDn+YL6M9hjr n1Jafaik1O68Bc+pFn2kNLWdRWtf1UHq0+QAdvytj291gNEtDgtXKXVO2sqrxVw2ruZUq9Zc9lm1 ear6KSuY5smCsA68/P3KPLX28p0ob2ALqgbqbHnJFQ6u2hM50w234CgLGM07NFHlxOLU1U7kDPAJ 8BT+AKy7pC/MFreOAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAzLTE4VDA5OjI2OjQ5KzAwOjAw j2JY0AAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMy0xOFQwOToyNjo0OSswMDowMP4/4GwAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Heidi Berry's _Love_: "Washington Square" Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:28:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pmzwq0r3.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:17:36 +0100") Message-ID: <87lfakq097.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > It's more about not having a display, I suspect. > > ./src/emacs -geometry -0+0 -Q --daemon=server -l chart > > will make chart-face-list nil. (I.e., initialising a variable based on `display-color-p' or `display-graphic-p' is almost always the wrong thing to do -- things depending on these should be computed dynamically at use time.) Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47133 Cc: 47133@debbugs.gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > It's more about not having a display, I suspect. > > ./src/emacs -geometry -0+0 -Q --daemon=server -l chart > > will make chart-face-list nil. (I.e., initialising a variable based on `display-color-p' or `display-graphic-p' is almost always the wrong thing to do -- things depending on these should be computed dynamically at use time.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 05:43:56 2021 Received: (at 47133) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 09:43:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45087 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpC8-00047k-7x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:43:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpC5-00047W-Sw for 47133@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:43:54 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpC0-0001wu-9F; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:43:48 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1084 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpBy-0005wq-P9; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:43:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:43:47 +0200 Message-Id: <831rccdcfg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87lfakq097.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:28:20 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#47133: 28.0.50; Library chart: colors sometimes appear, sometimes not References: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87a6r1rm9e.fsf@gnus.org> <835z1ode07.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmzwq0r3.fsf@gnus.org> <87lfakq097.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47133 Cc: 47133@debbugs.gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 47133@debbugs.gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:28:20 +0100 > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > It's more about not having a display, I suspect. > > > > ./src/emacs -geometry -0+0 -Q --daemon=server -l chart > > > > will make chart-face-list nil. > > (I.e., initialising a variable based on `display-color-p' or > `display-graphic-p' is almost always the wrong thing to do -- things > depending on these should be computed dynamically at use time.) We have custom-reevaluate-setting for that: could it help? At least for defcustoms which are initialized using those APIs? In general, stuff that depends on having a GUI frame needs to be done in server-after-make-frame-hook to work in sessions that start as daemon. maybe we should have some infrastructure for doing some of that automatically, so that users won't need to put so many things into that hook. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 06:17:57 2021 Received: (at 47133) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 10:17:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45139 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpj2-0004zP-Um for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:17:57 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpj1-0004zA-7U for 47133@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:17:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=edwlFaLdwFN8poHXNiSGEQ4Ph/BGDo0GnvEUSq9kLUE=; b=MYOfcTUGkNKGGdh82jKueJykzg d+AYdNy7ObiZ1kyuSRo+Gv5ew68jpuL7k7GwKyA3uqcJ/bMXa5Pw6u6mUKCjqdLy3jNCDdQuFMVgK TH1svqodEx6/+A6TQS9ydw+cO/5L8w21v2WVe1isoAhaQ1BH/9Unrn3481cNUc3W2MO0=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpir-0002c9-Pt; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:17:48 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#47133: 28.0.50; Library chart: colors sometimes appear, sometimes not References: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87a6r1rm9e.fsf@gnus.org> <835z1ode07.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmzwq0r3.fsf@gnus.org> <87lfakq097.fsf@gnus.org> <831rccdcfg.fsf@gnu.org> X-Now-Playing: Heidi Berry's _Heidi Berry_: "Mercury" Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:17:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <831rccdcfg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:43:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87czvwpxyv.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > We have custom-reevaluate-setting for that: could it help? At least > for defcustoms which are initialized using those APIs? > > In general, stuff that depends on having a GUI frame needs to be done [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47133 Cc: 47133@debbugs.gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > We have custom-reevaluate-setting for that: could it help? At least > for defcustoms which are initialized using those APIs? > > In general, stuff that depends on having a GUI frame needs to be done > in server-after-make-frame-hook to work in sessions that start as > daemon. maybe we should have some infrastructure for doing some of > that automatically, so that users won't need to put so many things > into that hook. Sure, that would be a possibility, but I think functionality like this should hold on computing stuff until it's needed -- then it'll work no matter how it's loaded. So I've made it do that in Emacs 28. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 06:18:04 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 10:18:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45143 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpjA-00050A-86 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:18:04 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpj8-0004zQ-Cc for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:18:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/3p+VwxnV+2Q93ul44cN0knlGXukgT2/Q0GHwe0yAnY=; b=n+wNL3SoKgwEvnB4CZ731n/DAV mtacm99sEliXpfaz0uQdoSvKy2bUHT+fHRvTkM3zaYMocImaHeDALcGJ/Ttkztlqtkd12CKxYwNHL Dvr1my7GAvXTCKmHlhxbRM1nWqGrJ+j/MSCHwMji0RtSTZCAyMfmH0anFWCjRBw0Doe4=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lMpj0-0002cH-QE for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:17:56 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:17:53 +0100 Message-Id: <87blbgpxym.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #47133 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 47133 fixed close 47133 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 47133 fixed close 47133 28.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 06:53:16 2021 Received: (at 47133) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 10:53:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMqHE-0008Ah-7x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:53:16 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:40457) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMqHC-0008AQ-D3 for 47133@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:53:15 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.30]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000027F3A.0000000060533112.00001633; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 03:53:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 13:51:27 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#47133: 28.0.50; Library chart: colors sometimes appear, sometimes not Message-ID: References: <861rcijg8t.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87a6r1rm9e.fsf@gnus.org> <835z1ode07.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmzwq0r3.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87pmzwq0r3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47133 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 47133@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2021-03-18 12:18]: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Which displays nowadays don't support colors in Emacs? Does anyone > > still use such displays? > > It's more about not having a display, I suspect. > > ./src/emacs -geometry -0+0 -Q --daemon=server -l chart > > will make chart-face-list nil. Maybe, it could be related. I am usually using Emacs as with `emacs --bg-daemon'. I have been using chart library before months and I never had problem, the problem came recently before about one month or more. So I have started now as daemon and client, and I cannot get colors. The instance that is started now as emacsclient does show colors. I guess that would be it. It worked before, it should be brought back to where it was. Thank you. Jean From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:25:00 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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