From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:04:28 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#47111 <47111@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#47111 <47111@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. Reply-To: bug#47111 <47111@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:04:28 +0000 retitle 47111 [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive co= mmitters. reassign 47111 guix-patches submitter 47111 Leo Famulari severity 47111 normal tag 47111 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 12 15:32:18 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2021 20:32:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKoSI-0001bT-L9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:18 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKoSG-0001bK-Mb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKoSE-0007Vy-Ok for guix-patches@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:16 -0500 Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:40573) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKoS7-0000HK-Qn for guix-patches@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:14 -0500 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDC95C00A4; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=mesmtp; bh=VePtEqhnyPLRU5Ziq9/22v9 8EQzCNpM99LKuR9R/QD8=; b=wzgMYFNXJk0CSJHkkRnyX5jiUj0iAYxhoJI2RLC C+eBDJAMmffkpRidUCi8VKTSOTtqnKmw+dqNKnVAc+rdkYd59YDN4veIab5D8PFp bLEcC0O6hfoqm5E3/eCRpCMxYKA/vPBzBWSwrvMPdnNphtaUITvhUtEw0atFcq0z m4PA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=VePtEq hnyPLRU5Ziq9/22v98EQzCNpM99LKuR9R/QD8=; b=H7c4rQkziGVyrsBRiHdvNm aFiSUoe8fNT50qgbry6gXkd6idyYRsjUK3sD0Q/WGtdDWA/2PiQ0LD3mVgHSFM/a qS/R+Ednwe00h/LFKzdeMGpucVyIMf3YnsnHQ/GhB10qN5UGXO43TpFVKKNs41cL hx71Mc4H+JUgdqBB4oil24Dku0R9Lu0vAy+kbhYakV2w5+3v+u2FxUupFacKM2mn EDkeKqXvYaHrkfoQzF7ffZ9ThTh4O3mEmSKOfkrRFllPI9208VCi5EuL3JoolJ7n p4jhPSwbdAIZzXCxrJFe1L8Lzc4phk8YyB4v6jxjsWCXMNgiZYOF+lfsvSXAXCdQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledruddvvddgudefkecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkffogggtgfesthekre dtredtjeenucfhrhhomhepnfgvohcuhfgrmhhulhgrrhhiuceolhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgr rhhirdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepgfetjeetjedtfefggfelheevleejte fhleevveetkedtheeugedtgfekueekheejnecukfhppedutddtrdduuddrudeiledruddu keenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlvg hosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgv X-ME-Proxy: Received: from jasmine.lan (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [100.11.169.118]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A251D1080064 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:06 -0500 (EST) From: Leo Famulari To: guix-patches@gnu.org Subject: [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:00 -0500 Message-Id: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.30.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.111.4.28; envelope-from=leo@famulari.name; helo=out4-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) As suggested by the maintainer collective, this establishes some clear guidelines for when and how to remove inactive committers from the project. We already do this, in an ad-hoc way, but it's better to make it explicit. * doc/contributing.texi (Commit Access): Add paragraph about removing inactive committers. --- doc/contributing.texi | 5 +++++ 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/contributing.texi b/doc/contributing.texi index c9dd7d6c04..44546d53bc 100644 --- a/doc/contributing.texi +++ b/doc/contributing.texi @@ -1374,6 +1374,11 @@ you're confident, it's OK to commit. That last part is subject to being adjusted, allowing individuals to commit directly on non-controversial changes on parts they’re familiar with. +Committers will have their Savannah account removed from the Guix +Savannah project and their key removed from @file{.guix-authorizations} +after 12 months of inactivity; they can ask to regain commit access by +emailing the maintainers. + One last thing: the project keeps moving forward because committers not only push their own awesome changes, but also offer some of their time @emph{reviewing} and pushing other people's changes. As a committer, -- 2.30.2 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 12 18:51:57 2021 Received: (at 47111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2021 23:51:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKrZU-00009k-UR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 18:51:57 -0500 Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:40679) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKrZS-00009U-9F for 47111@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 18:51:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 514EE100002; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 23:51:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Leo Famulari Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 00:51:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> (Leo Famulari's message of "Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:32:00 -0500") Message-ID: <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Leo Famulari writes: > +Committers will have their Savannah account removed from the Guix > +Savannah project and their key removed from @file{.guix-authorizations} > +after 12 months of inactivity; they can ask to regain commit access by > +emailing the maintainers. What about softening it a bit? For security concerns, committers will have [...] inactivity; they can regain commit access at any time by emailing the maintainers. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 12 19:22:55 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2021 00:22:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58676 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKs3S-0000sz-Pu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:22:55 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:48766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKs3O-0000sp-Kv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:22:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45510) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKs3O-0003ta-FI for guix-patches@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:22:50 -0500 Received: from tobias.gr ([2a02:c205:2020:6054::1]:40768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKs3M-0000wJ-Kw for guix-patches@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:22:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tobias.gr; s=2018; bh=sYe8zCBzIMKCwWT4yuIF91twbSZkt2mjN1QWfnTpMAw=; h=date:in-reply-to: references:subject:cc:to:from; b=aDq8b11P/6CRFomJgnQu/QofTCB7UClsZSnXN bQUn/iyKyxYQQU5+NnBxF+Ez1wLumubfzkS7TQN27ZRMzGVwGxy95+YRn3XaOiEwmeAjUO 7eYC1CKH5cknYQeVQ1YcKRl7i6G8mDiy0UBInuSZT3Ttq9oItKClioa22DbWF2a1BRwcpA lavChvHqfe246+lCqJi0n4m0urIWqudQfGg3EO57Ljx/3cvRXTW7J/dO6p7pPlMOeR53wQ JEIUckm+6TZY02vxp/Gyl2z7/q1bdHzFCDyeUQkVbrHhfWVeCB/Zgjr8kw3OuMREsEungv ZvQxba6Bw0adXK7dp8JHCBCdg== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 7c47e712 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Sat, 13 Mar 2021 00:23:44 +0000 (UTC) BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default; From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice To: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> In-reply-to: <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 01:23:13 +0100 Message-ID: <87zgz7aolq.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:c205:2020:6054::1; envelope-from=me@tobias.gr; helo=tobias.gr X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org, guix-patches@gnu.org, Leo Famulari X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leo, Nicolas, Leo Famulari writes: > +Committers will have their Savannah account removed from the=20 > Guix > +Savannah project and their key removed from=20 > @file{.guix-authorizations} > +after 12 months of inactivity; they can ask to regain commit=20 > access by > +emailing the maintainers. LGTM! Nicolas Goaziou =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > What about softening it a bit? > > For security concerns, committers will have [...] I'd prefer it not justifying itself nor making more claims than=20 strictly necessary. 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Message-ID: References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 12:51:45AM +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > Leo Famulari writes: > > > +Committers will have their Savannah account removed from the Guix > > +Savannah project and their key removed from @file{.guix-authorizations} > > +after 12 months of inactivity; they can ask to regain commit access by > > +emailing the maintainers. > > What about softening it a bit? > > For security concerns, committers will have [...] inactivity; they can > regain commit access at any time by emailing the maintainers. To me, security is less of a concern that potential for making mistakes. If someone is out of the loop and the committer workflow changes, they won't have noticed and could push commits that don't work for `guix pull`, or that cause too many rebuilds, or whatever. How about this: "In order to reduce the possibility of mistakes, committers will have ..." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 12 19:49:54 2021 Received: (at 47111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2021 00:49:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58724 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKsTa-0001Yi-AG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:49:54 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f52.google.com ([209.85.221.52]:46115) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKsTY-0001YU-58 for 47111@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:49:53 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f52.google.com with SMTP id a18so5709971wrc.13 for <47111@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:49:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=esPvsLOBABaQaERWeRpMWGXB7zm52JmADDsIrwCXQrs=; b=aeyyNJ+XoybDq9zPnqvFIIJQYopN4yNgRFeq9igQMon/Ny6epHenYvqu/biRV5fLp8 14p8YwMfV1s5Yhw59xwQuk59fFkTZn39s9BcB7Q0YzSq1HN51/mgZD8FdiYSJ1jcgQNU 716hqTS48MppTBy5rOL5NLBvYTt3YWnEm6okOPfNLlE48Qm2EwmWW7LNkcRltV67sYk2 ilMoen1Y6OFDLI6DzR2De7kaMjZFnfAC4JumjR37kyhv7xDim6TVLneETeSHghU6aPiy zmOvPjGiGc/UWn5hQaT6ElAExmfY9Dme+/0k8Kf/bgE++FDmdgRh+f6SylIbkdtMpn+1 FuPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=esPvsLOBABaQaERWeRpMWGXB7zm52JmADDsIrwCXQrs=; b=l8kBlMHGA6n+7XyLb0B02QOB5N2gioLCnksZy4wLW5NZILz+IVlmUpu5NxHjGBKMpA h/z072TREmk/yVPLk1aZeBZAjPmFrWhetWeM+HUQ6Thm3sNFilF0caktGXS6980J91OL yTdqeP7L6Va1MWOKkJyMAEzKvQ6TCAuW1zKucXqz9CBPiRHpxpLJUUbZBjWZ/xee2OVN MYmmxfC5Ym6JARfbtaydleVasJ6f1gT05Vny7zDxRcJH4fdZxzgWqc4iuBmXgZ1XbmN1 +zVN2u2t3EEL961kdrfkej0cwH/cSs7YxmNdm4p6j9xwFXWHRLJppCQgBoeK9bZga4ox VJtg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5313HERvWmLqB1atMQkr/51ulj/G0UuXamx/PxOtr6laLng+HMXj SM2eOGTKoYFN+Vneh1HNKki9rBZ+8O8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxBdAoowUnxPW2ycD6RehqXh3ELBtLL7FbAzpCmzvPDasIzw3J/gOYbuXDhsi7O4tIAWcqIXA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ebc9:: with SMTP id v9mr16811071wrn.387.1615596586191; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lili ([2a01:e0a:59b:9120:65d2:2476:f637:db1e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l15sm9967363wru.38.2021.03.12.16.49.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:49:45 -0800 (PST) From: zimoun To: Leo Famulari , 47111@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. In-Reply-To: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 01:46:35 +0100 Message-ID: <861rcjj2xg.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 15:32, Leo Famulari wrote: > As suggested by the maintainer collective, this establishes some clear > guidelines for when and how to remove inactive committers from the > project. We already do this, in an ad-hoc way, but it's better to make > it explicit. [...] > +Committers will have their Savannah account removed from the Guix > +Savannah project and their key removed from @file{.guix-authorizations} > +after 12 months of inactivity; they can ask to regain commit access by > +emailing the maintainers. Making it explicit, what does it mean =E2=80=9Cinactivity=E2=80=9D in =E2= =80=9Cafter 12 months of inactivity=E2=80=9D? Instead why not =C2=ABafter 12 months without usin= g their commit access rights=C2=BB? Cheers, simon From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 12 20:14:50 2021 Received: (at 47111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2021 01:14:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58742 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKsri-00028L-1q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:14:50 -0500 Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.20]:36445) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKsrf-000288-PC for 47111@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:14:48 -0500 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD231A71; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:14:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=zBR8KjbJR1QwZb+gfk6qCCTIbGIcMJjs4KxM3bwQtSo=; b=XqtczXGNrlm+ 2aVPl/reYatG+3djOJYKW9QKAzdSeV5gxYLt4VNFuANZx4yEA51RlYxbZkpkcR3h lf40GA4cK5FvvQ2soNjE+FW7LoodpyIltMlCpaOOSdYOMCuFPgBVaboUCXw7cPna qAT2WSBSr8fpmQJw7GNgIQXr9jS/a6E= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=zBR8KjbJR1QwZb+gfk6qCCTIbGIcMJjs4KxM3bwQt So=; b=D3y1ePYpV5evqxmjWTQGAJkc2CokcEOUf/rGLyDvZl5t9WDUfMJudLUBS JjpSFR9WYLUkISNLKETnK5zZvqlKRCHHqoIPiSNRazlJENCSlVOfaPMUahMPh2as zp6DrStUSVd2w7X5ytTUQ0zJCg5TZ+0RId29uPl5LDg28kdhyroDEoQ9nJgg4o0M kCdZQPnkRUZZP1WaIeAum0c+qEFrHFw6FHnKUv9RIlpPjONv42wxs40tSA+5Ctnk tBxykhrlcyeOPV00XqxTqyRKgYF/lwEw145LDEt/WxPNjYRj+bXWa0lap79L2Uuk cm7sSafJsT5tXQ1Nrz7I9PvvreSaw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledruddvfedgfedvucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggugfgjsehtke ertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpefnvghoucfhrghmuhhlrghrihcuoehlvghosehfrghmuhhl rghrihdrnhgrmhgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeegjeeggeehtddugfffuddtvdfffe ffjeekffffveffheegvddvuedtffekjeejjeenucfkphepuddttddruddurdduieelrddu udeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplh gvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvg X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [100.11.169.118]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 05EFD108005F; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:14:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:14:38 -0500 From: Leo Famulari To: zimoun Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. Message-ID: References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <861rcjj2xg.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <861rcjj2xg.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 01:46:35AM +0100, zimoun wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 15:32, Leo Famulari wrote: > Making it explicit, what does it mean “inactivity” in “after 12 months > of inactivity”? Instead why not «after 12 months without using their > commit access rights»? They might have been highly active on the mailing lists and the bug tracker, in which case there may not be any reason to remove them. These are just guidelines, they will not be enforced exactly. 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In-Reply-To: References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <861rcjj2xg.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:41:26 +0100 Message-ID: <86y2erhj1l.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 20:14, Leo Famulari wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 01:46:35AM +0100, zimoun wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 15:32, Leo Famulari wrote: >> Making it explicit, what does it mean =E2=80=9Cinactivity=E2=80=9D in = =E2=80=9Cafter 12 months >> of inactivity=E2=80=9D? Instead why not =C2=ABafter 12 months without u= sing their >> commit access rights=C2=BB? > > They might have been highly active on the mailing lists and the bug > tracker, in which case there may not be any reason to remove them. These > are just guidelines, they will not be enforced exactly. In the issue [1] introducing the Commit Access section, there is a discussion. Anyway. :-) In my views, they do not need commit access to be active on the mailing lists and/or the bug tracker. The set of people with commit access should be restricted to people who effectively commit; especially with the authentication dance. Well, if in the past 12 (or 18?) months, they are not able to push couple* of patches waiting in the tracker or update couple* of packages or push a fix or =E2=80=A6 I miss why do they need a co= mmit access, i.e., in my views they are inactive as committer. It=E2=80=99s fin= e, life happens. And since commit access is about trust and they are already trusted, they can request later a commit access if they are able to be active again. *couple meaning here 2 or more. :-) I agree that these are just guidelines and they will not be enforced exactly, e.g., counting the number of days of =E2=80=9Cinactivity=E2=80=9D.= :-) Well, I am only suggesting something that appeared vague when I read it. Otherwise, LGTM. :-) 1: Cheers, simon From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 13 03:03:03 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2021 08:03:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59039 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzEl-0001ep-GB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:03:03 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzEk-0001ej-Kh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:03:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50398) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzEk-00071R-7X for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:03:02 -0500 Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:43343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzEi-0003Vj-13 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:03:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2170C100004; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 08:02:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87zgz7aolq.fsf@nckx> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 09:02:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zgz7aolq.fsf@nckx> (Tobias Geerinckx-Rice's message of "Sat, 13 Mar 2021 01:23:13 +0100") Message-ID: <87tupfzdjn.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.231; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay11.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org, guix-patches@gnu.org, Leo Famulari X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Hello, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > I'd prefer it not justifying itself nor making more claims than > strictly necessary. My concern is that removing commit access is also a symbolic act, which could be taken personally. I think it is necessary to explain the reason behind it. IOW, I suggest to make sure the message is not understood as "you are deemed useless after 12 months not working for us". Minimal explanation leads to maximal interpretation, and not everyone has the same English command. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 13 03:07:25 2021 Received: (at 47111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2021 08:07:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59046 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzIz-0001lJ-8y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:07:25 -0500 Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:34447) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKzIx-0001l6-Pi for 47111@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:07:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11CFF100009; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 08:07:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Leo Famulari Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 09:07:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Leo Famulari's message of "Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:44:03 -0500") Message-ID: <87mtv7zdcb.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Leo Famulari writes: > To me, security is less of a concern that potential for making mistakes. > If someone is out of the loop and the committer workflow changes, they > won't have noticed and could push commits that don't work for `guix > pull`, or that cause too many rebuilds, or whatever. > > How about this: > > "In order to reduce the possibility of mistakes, committers will have > ..." Sure, if that's the reason why. Also, about my second suggestion at the end of the message, I want to make it clear that regaining commit access is trivial, and does not imply another vouching process (IIUC), i.e., "you can ask to..." sounds like it could be refused. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 13 14:13:42 2021 Received: (at 47111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2021 19:13:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lL9hm-0005W3-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:13:42 -0500 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:36253) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lL9hj-0005Vq-86 for 47111@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:13:40 -0500 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35A25C0081; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:13:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:13:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=dBbFR+2TGQrpp/eR+jmbJD3w 3mY0Rs3vjRHU8XAKQpU=; b=VEYpTQ7llOWBDsOQTN2+0NIY5Tc1m1KvSGG0G/F+ bWpUZHlCnX4cjj0BhZZoiBIocx4GysBwo92kfuY5NV3/Yiv1vVFalA0ChWvm2Fb5 4QSWji8nsNK9cZXw1EPCFulDIqoeklSULztJ5HHa2oxSnv+QefG7M2rke2qoVzB4 Q44= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=dBbFR+ 2TGQrpp/eR+jmbJD3w3mY0Rs3vjRHU8XAKQpU=; b=PidlUx0ZkifTHcu52A32E6 E++uF40+RVnm1HZHiADeXojY8uxbNlAg0rgRQrBVXRC3aV7uUYA7GbI0MgQbbWHj Po7LgmKwQ0KFGcwimgNwjm+u9O5viFd6+EvMBZi9bYy5cU59ykdpy2fav012doj4 0CPyWlV/w9Ap//Tyv2dGvFZceB7y54yKFbOd6aXi9OvlW1jBCOIprT9MEKVr+9+g E3/mQl+WxDuebQH2jUTHx/yAqiAaxbZhrpHmBpt75QlYLa+B8hqvHkSiGzakOGtF rAXcoagzuUsSVYZjzIVjEtG2uWP7g6eMSTJv5lZ2NJNvgrhgc8PsWnLzzR9cjq1w == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledruddvgedguddulecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehttd ertddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefnvghoucfhrghmuhhlrghrihcuoehlvghosehfrghmuhhl rghrihdrnhgrmhgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeukeektdffvddtudegjeegtdevhf eufeeivdejiedtieegtdevjedvjeehffevgfenucfkphepuddttddruddurdduieelrddu udeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplh gvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvg X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [100.11.169.118]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 30EEC1080057; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:13:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:13:31 -0500 From: Leo Famulari To: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. Message-ID: References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87mtv7zdcb.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mtv7zdcb.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 09:07:16AM +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Also, about my second suggestion at the end of the message, I want to > make it clear that regaining commit access is trivial, and does not > imply another vouching process (IIUC), i.e., "you can ask to..." sounds > like it could be refused. It could be refused. It really depends on the situation, and the decision is at the discretion of the maintainers. In many cases a simple "Hi, I'm back!" email will be enough, but the text I propose is not offering a guarantee. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 14 14:13:20 2021 Received: (at 47111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2021 18:13:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lLVEu-0005p2-1h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:13:20 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:48939) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lLVEr-0005oS-Pz for 47111@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:13:18 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCFB71BF209; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 18:13:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Leo Famulari Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87mtv7zdcb.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 19:13:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Leo Famulari's message of "Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:13:31 -0500") Message-ID: <877dm9wqmi.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Leo Famulari writes: > It could be refused. It really depends on the situation, and the > decision is at the discretion of the maintainers. Oh! I cannot foresee a situation where this could occur. I'm probably lacking of imagination here. I'll trust you on this. > In many cases a simple "Hi, I'm back!" email will be enough, but the > text I propose is not offering a guarantee. Naively, I was hoping for another interpretation. Then, I agree your text is sufficient. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 17 05:56:43 2021 Received: (at 47111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Mar 2021 09:56:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMSux-0005a3-18 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 05:56:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60440) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMSuu-0005Zm-Vy for 47111@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 05:56:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMSuo-0001YL-FY; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 05:56:34 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=44728 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lMSun-00051T-NG; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 05:56:34 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: bug#47111: [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87zgz7aolq.fsf@nckx> <87tupfzdjn.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 10:56:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tupfzdjn.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Sat, 13 Mar 2021 09:02:52 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1ke5cj4.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , 47111@debbugs.gnu.org, leo@famulari.name X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou skribis: > My concern is that removing commit access is also a symbolic act, which > could be taken personally. I think it is necessary to explain the reason > behind it. IOW, I suggest to make sure the message is not understood as > "you are deemed useless after 12 months not working for us". In my view, documenting it is precisely a way to make sure no one takes it personally: the rules are known beforehand, no one is caught by surprise. That also means maintainers don=E2=80=99t have to hesitate, negotiate, worry, and all that. > Minimal explanation leads to maximal interpretation, and not everyone > has the same English command. True. I think the suggestion you and Leo made to add =E2=80=9CIn order to = avoid mistakes=E2=80=9D can clarify that. To me that=E2=80=99s the main reason for this policy. Another one is secur= ity (someone has their laptop stolen, for instance), but similar security risks exist while the person is active. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 17 06:05:40 2021 Received: (at 47111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Mar 2021 10:05:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42093 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMT3c-0005p5-Bx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 06:05:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34994) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMT3Z-0005or-TD for 47111@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 06:05:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60961) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMT3S-0006bP-8c; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 06:05:31 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=44730 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lMT3H-0006id-AX; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 06:05:22 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Leo Famulari Subject: Re: bug#47111: [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:05:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Leo Famulari's message of "Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:44:03 -0500") Message-ID: <878s6m5c4l.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi Leo, Leo Famulari skribis: > How about this: > > "In order to reduce the possibility of mistakes, committers will have > ..." I like this. > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 09:07:16AM +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: >> Also, about my second suggestion at the end of the message, I want to >> make it clear that regaining commit access is trivial, and does not >> imply another vouching process (IIUC), i.e., "you can ask to..." sounds >> like it could be refused. > > It could be refused. It really depends on the situation, and the > decision is at the discretion of the maintainers. In many cases a simple > "Hi, I'm back!" email will be enough, but the text I propose is not > offering a guarantee. Perhaps, after =E2=80=9Cthey can ask to regain commit access by emailing the maintainers=E2=80=9D we can add =E2=80=9Cwithout going through the vouching= process=E2=80=9D? Would that address your concerns, Nicolas? To be clear, I think this would be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. I expect that by far the most frequent situation would be one where maintainers know the person and immediately restore their access. In other cases, as the project gets older, maintainers could feel the need to go through the regular contribution and vouching process. IOW, I think this process should be as smooth as possible, but we should not suggest it=E2=80=99s automatic. Thoughts? Ludo=E2=80=99. 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In-Reply-To: <878s6m5c4l.fsf_-_@gnu.org> References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878s6m5c4l.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 13:12:34 +0100 Message-ID: <86im5q9dxp.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111 Cc: 47111@debbugs.gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, The patch LGTM, even better with the tweaks. On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 11:05, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > IOW, I think this process should be as smooth as possible, but we should > not suggest it=E2=80=99s automatic. I agree. It should not be automatic, and dropping a private email asking some news is what I would do (if I had to do :-)). Life happens, and asking news to someone with who I had some interactions appears to me a normal human interaction. :-) Cheers, simon From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 18 16:10:26 2021 Received: (at 47111-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2021 20:10:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48153 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMyyP-00047b-Te for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:10:26 -0400 Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.20]:37785) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lMyyO-00047O-HM for 47111-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:10:24 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459E5FE2; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:10:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=VrQKe5ASPJQ8qJEfUv8o38Gx +gHvZ/9r+z6L/VP848I=; b=v6UgalC9Ewr07wpzDpCanDn1COnaYYcQElIa+Kt/ rk/Zeq/ZkwbxgpioaAM6xD8xtF7L+aaVASa8C+HBYoSCCiaFk0ohQO0ut+rKuw+b dpD04ZF8J29XSkH6BtxLak9dJlIEe2O7cbh/6UGXWBLqsTcF/zTCeviqG3C6wzsL /58= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=VrQKe5 ASPJQ8qJEfUv8o38Gx+gHvZ/9r+z6L/VP848I=; b=qv6uptUEgQZLltdJxUpA/y mcReTzJoldsdeOzNRaYpvu04AfkuZdQzBgF2tgZfq12UxCzlj7vCmAEHqALiSQXB PCy/Lsg7az1NMrv8oqX9osZ6EC2Ptl2iE/gbgNQ37e/KSqWCk9PUUI+lHsxZqRwq uXji4hrbhIELHuOD2WuByUdZIRZitHhApkTOObDhVsyZdPgp73D0Ofc4Qkr6/A5t PH17FqCY2Rpbf/QoxIkGzdEiskMKXZy/Tx1QrOhPXr7dQGdG5+2BMf6VUpFb20T4 HO/IvHRe5gVNBvGwe4cpzlxTRZzxuXyP9iy6075Wg7/IWKhE+ooTxt/HXEWTspgA == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudefiedgudefiecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesthdtredttddtvdenucfhrhhomhepnfgvohcu hfgrmhhulhgrrhhiuceolhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhepueekkedtffdvtddugeejgedtvefhueefiedvjeeitdeigedtveejvdejheff vefgnecukfhppedutddtrdduuddrudeiledruddukeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpe dtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlvghosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgv X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [100.11.169.118]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4EE9F1080067; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:10:14 -0400 From: Leo Famulari To: zimoun Subject: Re: [bug#47111] [PATCH] doc: Document the guidelines for removing inactive committers. Message-ID: References: <7dca28c09a55a3b4ec3da7668586faa84130a65a.1615581119.git.leo@famulari.name> <87y2esylpq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878s6m5c4l.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <86im5q9dxp.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86im5q9dxp.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47111-done Cc: Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= , Nicolas Goaziou , 47111-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 01:12:34PM +0100, zimoun wrote: > The patch LGTM, even better with the tweaks. Alright, I have taken all the comments into account and pushed a revised patch as commit 9ade2b720af91acecf76278b4d9b99ace406781e. 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