From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:13:16 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#46935 <46935@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#46935 <46935@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard Reply-To: bug#46935 <46935@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:13:16 +0000 retitle 46935 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard reassign 46935 emacs submitter 46935 Michael Heerdegen severity 46935 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 04 18:28:52 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2021 23:28:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60593 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lHxOm-0002zY-CI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:28:52 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52056) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lHxOi-0002zP-U4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:28:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHxOi-0002io-Ls for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:28:48 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:33009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHxOf-00064v-OI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:28:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1614900522; bh=aVjW74ViqtWFQfF9+IjqFhpQOMGEr0phMVY3NgJrCzQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=sEPE38wfdpCyav3DR+GvTXtB+WDjVWdmGz1OlQsjumiezZQadTZBT6jrM3Z6wY/vh JmuYfUf7pU8gIkHYlcrVqgaI3fK0bmX/MOK/pFnO1V+tXxVxIHOuRvZSJ25Js1Pl9/ AUXpLZ6Kw6NjeoVvPdh0rYV57/RwHDPMpxnYsD2Y= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.220.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MSGXj-1lBWPy45d5-00TRDI for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 00:28:42 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 00:28:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:L3Se36GVA+lLgml35goirShd6Cn5JyTItV+VwVtwsPDLseFDw4H y/ONrcfVlb6kpMQwUw2viIavjBPhMwJvFzF6sKsG6Z1GQd/UpHb891txNcgJv28ZhUL/UQR hFgP8lg3E0CAh8EiRYC0iMHD466nh8/29+i4FiOO0viv1JbxAF1ci3mB50weq2OTsE2Mlmw p+BUr7ZIbUJLS1jjl/uug== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:pCz1P9qdZi0=:QECR6l+xnGtkej5+D+94Qf 2FXG3xAWW9t5AWJYO4hW/ABie+R2nQW097F2FKOE0Yeq6U7z/r9ke+sbZJjndw4fA8BnoEEO4 HerJVVW0lSsXKFRW35w37mfm8hMZEucsda5GjEla+tsQ0Ia3Es9H8H5yzmvCpVNldeb62yKsT /XmZ1dx2lbNYrH1iD68Z5FsOcoxWOG79SdvkQO2HHOOrTm+g7uOKnmSljZXzarIHIxTippr0u 8bcksBNBME93k8Z0/mZTfAUlO2i2kdu7CpdVWY7fcIAN4XsBhrLrKILRCDQK++hw7IsaquFSV VxkgEOcPGqW9TEmx0Dta6uxgj6G0daI8CxeDroOp9q6J2bK8GS2H+L/nBee5sGMLn22ti3Ilf 2HdJitxVWaJF0IhFPbjTrIhK/IesvV36ote7JowfCzsBgjWKe0ssfcgcxKrH/GOhLufdDT4GX 5Xv4CiOl6Jm/yoR24h7B2X91G+XVQDaebkpIRCXgeOpV5SUEOluN3VsQGkqaS2Zu3VhvzFzvt PjXVp9JAF5U6XcRgadX/CqQejyi5Rb7euIdzRzweiG8SIbpKXZU2NKmutTp3hoedFQehfOJn/ PhXreFH25zL82Qp3MmbFG3lANfqPcMafluo5lsEXlYtv0Z1HEV//c5q096aMZvyOoYSotRLkg GWHNAkwIY9ATTsILArWDlp6Ep3Lv6nK/k5sB+WZnazCSGgLz3HASPMuEgurTGrVihUqi00CS1 8w6j1Wdr0jbDvOFYqhPbSw/eaPoKX39LFbGBV6Q/LsraYg58jCVOsXepg7iwmzVH3jBTKOnOb U7Nsg7HUiQM2QjyadSRnUIP43HlegF/HJ4sqCD/hOIlgg6fpQkchalwLM6VBK56KRoD8Slg5v dxu3Xz2lN9pwdlsgRFZt/9DJl+gVP1DcvGsajtlFc= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.4; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hello, I'm using Emacs under the X window system (Debian with Openbox window manager). I'm experiencing the following issues with my setup: (1) When some other program is very busy or frozen - that can be a browser executing javascript code, or a program that has crashed or is frozen, or (this recipe works only sometimes) another Emacs that I have sent a SIGSTOP, then, when I try to copy or kill text in any buffer, Emacs also freezes. Seems to infloop. C-g always helps, but any other trial results in freeze again. In this situation it is impossible to work with Emacs in a useful way. I have to close or kill the other program, or wait until it is not that busy any more, to be able to continue working in Emacs. (2) There are so called "clipboard manager" for X, "parcellite" for example. Whenever I tried to use such a program, it has a side effect on Emacs: Emacs seems to recive some sort of interrupt event or whatever - this is my interpretation - the visible effect is that some things stop working, are interrupted, most of the time, this is Helm: instead of getting a window with completions, I get an empty window. Repeated retrying always works sooner or later. I think, but I am not totally sure, that I also saw the issue in other situations. Could likely be that it is `while-no-input' that gets interrupted. The effect is annoying enough that it is not possible to work with Emacs for a longer time and a started parcellite. AFAIR this happened with other (all) clipboard managers I had tried in the past. Please tell me if you need information about my config. Some related setting might be select-enable-primary -> t select-enable-clipboard -> t save-interprogram-paste-before-kill -> t What would be the shortest way to find the cause? I also wonder if only I am seeing this, or whether others only hesitate to report the problem (would be nice if they could raise their hands now...) TIA, Michael. In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 9, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2021-03-04 built on drachen Repository revision: fa74c6c89d67226b31d10bdef66e88cc484b20ea Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12010000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_TIME: C value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: ELisp/l From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 05 08:46:31 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2021 13:46:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33272 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIAmk-0006ha-OS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 08:46:31 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIAmi-0006b0-Fg for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 08:46:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=xHeMAQ7DU2PM4tR+K1EeFHjHTvV4HRlUHOZRN3WS8Oc=; b=H2RpGfLzrnT9+ni4Q8aaIsP1+6 VpRvNnIjhNHDlBHCoq9Q/c8po7Nh14x3ajs8dUW5gohtVaQd7YekQo8nZvj3mug8yolQO0GTTSYhI eXhTtv6sAsstP1giaSnFWh3s0nK7gCIYLDvDstC1ooS68gCA6LYHKCNBB+tJ4oiuWBI4=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lIAmZ-0007J7-NF; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 14:46:22 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> X-Now-Playing: Cabaret Voltaire's _Groovy, Laidback and Nasty (vinyl)_: "Hypnotised" Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 14:46:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2021 00:28:41 +0100") Message-ID: <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Michael Heerdegen writes: > (1) When some other program is very busy or frozen - that can be a > browser executing javascript code, or a program that has crashed or is > frozen, or (this recipe works only sometimes) another Em [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > (1) When some other program is very busy or frozen - that can be a > browser executing javascript code, or a program that has crashed or is > frozen, or (this recipe works only sometimes) another Emacs that I have > sent a SIGSTOP, then, when I try to copy or kill text in any buffer, > Emacs also freezes. Seems to infloop. C-g always helps, but any other > trial results in freeze again. I see the same with "emacs -Q" when I start one emacs, choose text with the mouse, C-z it, and then start another one and try to paste (with the mouse). But I see exactly the same if I try to paste into Firefox, so perhaps this is just how this stuff is supposed to work? (That is, Firefox times out after a few seconds, so it doesn't hang indefinitely.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 05 17:43:19 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2021 22:43:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35636 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIJAE-0006od-Op for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 17:43:18 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:33351) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIJAC-0006oL-9r for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 17:43:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1614984189; bh=cWXp/eKd9VS/Mkc/t5da4/2lhbPg2l6UdHiW8j6XTE4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=I4N/mNX8hLbLczZNgVfeUZJ1AU4vY9cQHEGd2LEBfqC0opBaAgH42U+/37H3YKla3 aEzepwwMbveJ55eNrWSdKDxBOqnO8OLp6TDEQWI5hUsvRBzq8ZtOazrMs2Y2l+zTl8 FHqm0rgSDbKKHaX7ElCU6c35D9QhGZYeD3r9UYz8= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.220.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LaTpn-1m3AQM0ovP-00mHDY; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 23:43:09 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <87y2f2m551.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 23:43:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y2f2m551.fsf@posteo.net> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2021 08:27:54 +0100") Message-ID: <87mtvh8bnn.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Cj3lABMmoke4TLZXPYXHgc3Pzsb07qJPUz22wdxIyimkCzXN7tl m5gCTw7IUPBvxZJcuAPIQ9YVA3ZCD1d/H1lkN7c4n63F1XvYeIJVuTXyUpksGay4zxZjgTi cBoY6eX7KRiBFbI1ikJ0DiIN4tiTndfeQmq6neC5FCLdlpG0ePh/ijjsQJsosx40oOjVccQ xH+Q6aFRGdVxrCYqcfP2g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:tjP2sIlsXmA=:P3q29RMIodU+8lCRhPyFsD uc5YT07LMb8RWxC48F3rV3sMWbQbJ8ktHSDVU5I9cVKZch4cOgzoF8TDtX0BBPlfK7+qR2vOR f1bF0LRE1OoGjqSd5zjucJrg9Re7gbrfc1bN77dmJxa4nyk3iIUuBk7EuXB90WhrcmrVmtSrW oAybtPLQOxJ2X5/KEYLc4NQo1fAAoQ+opzWeqMhFDuo5FddqEkeXmD36CdsDnHgNjosVMALSE Gs+XPECBQa3YI+gmSJGpNDA+Tni7DJnQDhSQS1Q1ACTadD1Q36Xvr4QoVt7rPwdUWaOV2i9bc yClrXQhd1PL/e2OTez1dfQPgtrOUcI+IOuk6+MFs42YgvuQiaFEvEHNs8v58CpGbBQqt3Hvps 3b1VEpZqpDeHtpyx1MddF72JtHKBJ7F+6SZdQuth7X5zLR98gPA55ECVdGe4A2XseuU5QvZii vNNz1JxTb1m7o4hnYwp/ggZxzjotPBbJ8fQLUvPIbuQcZjY8mfh8p04HDUtMp3Zk+3nqUW5o3 bC3UKJhmMgeFsqT8Klk+xF9g9ZWm5N6m1MKry32arNieBc+opEIWRqsENLCNlKmm39kQgMLEo nyz1xgthJcLKJH+nfaPaa6Hu9ooYX2S0gxrvFaV8m/YglXreXAwQnVyobF9iMyxTR+mEDg1jo lMESwwxwEL4vxKNOTDjkDFf13FkqcRzdK2qjOjihR+U1KRS9t3CtlVK/5vqGTZsFBihOm6c1Z zJNlSVhImSuetZtHk+s+nKldhtK2WrsiC30KS7hMrHXh/6ez9KCX/FSDt3AaL3M8pOEr2FbpH +qTmyYTMg8XRdtrKYeVLb79bhP75VUqkU1FKN1U0s1fJGNIwZrT6cAxGjswhqPrj6Ob96XgAt NDL82PTQPWWSdNXjK8Q2Hb6Xu9O+vpjAt17DIJNRM= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Thierry Volpiatto writes: > > What would be the shortest way to find the cause? > > Starting from emacs-27, subr.el is loaded in a way that > `while-no-input-ignore-events` is not set, so it default to nil. > IOW the block in subr.el: > > (setq while-no-input-ignore-events > '(focus-in focus-out help-echo iconify-frame > make-frame-visible selection-request)) > > is not evaled, it is in emacs-26.3. Ah, very valuable information. Yes, the binding is nil for me. Do you (or anybody) know why this setting doesn't have an effect any more and what has to be done to fix this? Thanks, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 05 17:48:51 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2021 22:48:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35641 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIJFb-0006wm-EQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 17:48:51 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:52461) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIJFZ-0006wY-Us for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 17:48:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1614984523; bh=3lfEQkOd2twRExceELiOc8QUhqgNiGRE5W6N0rhSEUA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ZTXOq81wmzdG96efL4HSbu+/esGYpJ9lCIFf6jzhtwaABZ/YmxnGlB4PtDCsWWYIz WCC/f9Zc+ZkekWopND0Zc9dsbOXfJ5PDCAWhtd+GLUrHDdyaW8yTQMtom8eeBQJvc0 dHRFVqf8dkxsY73TQIkTAl8inzLmO3qELAiY8IEs= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.220.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MkEhH-1m2cMc0mC1-00kZOZ; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 23:48:43 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 23:48:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2021 14:46:18 +0100") Message-ID: <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:4AcQ1vIRKZE47s7dyPbQT4xRdW6NRwNv4OoHT1xEGSVe29UdHnR Grj4yOaZ4V2Ltv5uiqZ0TWGiF0IJ602aJt9MYvzkOAeKC1/ZdWtLoqUKEqQ0xIp+Pq2VC6k NE5k6cxZcpvNRPNlPLIYsi57xfCYFjx+elTdfbqiO7dH9H293MNz3pq/2y66bHUBVnbxMLl 9rE/ZTmfobOAb6PUiji9g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:46bwPScP+wQ=:kPAGZqbqOnm0RnxFZZ/mSM s18htCrRt+VSem4x9ZUHgf5/leHpD5GejlOef6h3F2P8c4/wC7kW8h/zzBkA0NBQ4e2oTuIeW THnTWTPtsUZQCqgqwzRgu676ef4FJYKqRjh5Da+q+8aeXRI0YV3ppwPv1rCYE3U01yv7TDu/F lT4YRSryyYRUwXWQUKnjSZgUasyvny9KNUd0g/M2IEQNyK34h1/G0E+wqLpaKDP8Gd+6JbZ38 4WvANJhWvDrdTl8+7CIbfzbrQk/lrw14N+sAtkah4hDgP37iGArqMswops3uJridYkehO2nb1 uRhGe7F0RSnTGwfn3IMQxpOz9XgGj32tDr3PRz1bDGFYSRRBz2O0g4jtCYo8rZQ2yBvq9XxkQ xC5zxTFga+N0fzCswMuUQ59lz5ykebax1KhlLoi1fxKPSWFRMY66GQGTSFC1ioD/ro4jUp06f ywfFHRqynEMYuABb7PN3n+5pjlrSgBzhnJF7jUggLipjS4QJQuYQLQEuDlUPOU/kmYHbhTNtn XrB+qpWJuSeFMC6SRMbIrB+3PojjTz/7EynX2lIf3LIUGbov64WjhFce/dDdMJl4wEkQAZ7bO rNf2l/rpoY3dWZzOFnmy1tEJGl+r+lk1WcPjZ0lqCYTHrClDibDe5HW4us9o2+Wcikdg1+l2N VRe7P+P5QjuDcRw3cltB8FhfxEu71VYZFb9YGc6R03KP+9WV9p9GKyYg7i8slKB0wb+EVJHKX iMdb2K8b7TnIul1UOsDuVzbZC/HG0WxXP/KXgYpGA9o0R2wnu6ZVkLXfQuXW9EFoQnCHcI2yR UcRhkyPzl7yMK40qw4jsyErvzvG1deZyhi0h1q2L2DNYH/O7pqxAH9vjWsRHBKh/G39T9813W XWuorh7pl3B/Ljm/POIbQnxZ3Mj+NMxaflUJQRl2o= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > But I see exactly the same if I try to paste into Firefox, so perhaps > this is just how this stuff is supposed to work? (That is, Firefox > times out after a few seconds, so it doesn't hang indefinitely.) I... I hope not. Sometimes it doesn't happen, for example right now, I can't reproduce the issue with another, sleeping, Emacs. I wonder if Emacs, like Firefox, also does not hang indefinitely when it happens? I didn't have that impression, but as I said, I can't test ATM. Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 05 21:55:48 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2021 02:55:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35796 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIN6a-0004Ru-Gd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 21:55:48 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:41895) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIN6Y-0004Re-E6 for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 21:55:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1614999339; bh=KgnHbCzv7rmPqUgHIBMnY7b76ZKRm5lHd8hrC3gO/sM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=gW9OH6apcciP0KSPcSS6h1Kl+EkpVCG68aUNjl0Xvu1CvX599P5XycOUR7RmSe8RU igbTq8GoYLGAHU1Ytx3iu95ZkecCR1S/x+TKu7q/MDWZOn9lhTLAkRojjroIC2dxt0 ItovZTspZSFhWzRwUUyblouxAsiMkMziZGQhvs9s= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.220.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MXocY-1lHAn911lU-00YFMA; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 03:55:39 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <87y2f2m551.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtvh8bnn.fsf@web.de> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 03:55:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mtvh8bnn.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2021 23:43:08 +0100") Message-ID: <87ft190z4l.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:noxWeTNrY7zJNA96imNiOsGQPubMKSoR6b2SCbfnJTcwPNF+0Vn xjaprrRLfKSCqqRZiIq6b9xbNTgNv8fNdhcBMXoEG9g0XNtYrc0r5bY3BxbBe9Rpe0FknmF Z0R/h7pmtOZX1/wMUe8Z550s/qGnWc+0viDxBAM+VzNTVszaJtFVNh1dHc68DLn2fbsJ7fw lLqof0nwYuxL5rX/TJN5g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:FDxsRcRJ87w=:GMdHaKr9kunk1NJ0Bqr2+w A63UApbWJvADog99+8NlZ45JaCQJYqHxRHTfkXVNSVa0rhmlPip1zkFvSIarIxmsVCxuAhvYw 5TweUISe0WvRF5Qa1rIoodUS7ITnrN6zD4pNZbYOBoakBrNTI368z2QAh3dOnFXoOv8ojcxPa o1lqblyLkq0dgMKNIbrz3CVziEVNqKYDUVa9gCAduNv6gLFHqdTDyYEd1asPG55mMBf/sTZaE QGhHGDgn5Kp68k2PMqGysw+1FeySP563wAq5PbQSRa/2LajZj6MsUMBhyVLnqul8Q+q+UFifX QdGSpOegyHgNvC9o9mhEyjLL+fL5F3tmcv2EdtUgdaH4f8JZ7M4BZLn6xmk90INUZm5+U7NGD fIaVUHGiaBBMkgKqOV3H9x9DsgUk+aum3fjk0pEM/lF93kwj4qy0qq/ZqjpB6fMdjYgjx9ct9 rrFE9OuC/D6y9HzDBpqwzTmmmyiDVjIrudBi5zANeQPdCT+cCZ1CvAQeH2lVg7KiM6GiQnnID HMAlPCbh5QXngjTnxbwyY1h+yW19/6e8XwlnSTIvq9FZhqxZKPe2tkerbc7AsGqQOyJoqs/ZS RS727Mn6bOObylSd7Cu3jSF1l45NW/MLEE4/CynL0iPOdKd4jXewrvnnMeEg+i5Q48Fxl2AES GZnd0DtEtOwEfLNd7o+hOD5iTR4Dwf3ZQgO/5MjuABuWccaaf88EhUvGajhT5z3h1V/a6cvAQ KtA9OaIO4g+dZuKrb7PzQqzvo4N+Dhwlt0vdY6lc9Hkr0borvv18NlUuLkohARsg6HOxyW/O5 0rA0RhZiWyfmkQCrNk23g+pPIJQKRv4/AfPssNOBjw2ScUAJiIxCtkuhWx3NI8ZZg2BZjGWNx plZq03V+U6Bc66FKkZ+uz6JOD0sa/H9JzrGOma2UQ= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > > IOW the block in subr.el: > > > > (setq while-no-input-ignore-events > > '(focus-in focus-out help-echo iconify-frame > > make-frame-visible selection-request)) > > > > is not evaled, it is in emacs-26.3. After using Emacs now for half a day with this expression added to my config I can acknowledge that it solves part (2) of this report. As said, I don't understand why the expression in subr.el has no effect. Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 06 01:13:02 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2021 06:13:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIQBR-0002lN-Vi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 01:13:02 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:51985) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIQBP-0002kp-Il for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 01:13:00 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 432B424028B for <46935@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 6 Mar 2021 07:12:53 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1615011173; bh=wzyF29nrrOtkhayfZEp6cRWZHkRkrTrN0W9TP2gn8YE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Autocrypt:From; b=b29WGF3h1fDnsLy+VNz3ND4NOd7betmhmYipCwFHOilkFLAVavqModxwWdeHcrP1r dPU2Oy7iLFlnNqLlFOOvrCIx1yFhHLHX3Vc9b/6depvLoetuzsHzZfCjQ+UXcn8KZJ YnX4uuO8DL5e7pXGMbMCPWlSOgOZ0DnPO2kZi185SZF4A37ubSi5xuAL8rUtPQH8U7 FMsh7GZvzm/b0UOw7at4/CvjXKc66zm+dkQ7UVqmcVINFe0Rn2o4Tw0QwyO99sw3VQ kV+d6y1fEp6A07NI6rFw83Z80QWSUhsRVSl6crhjN8JKJcUKDkcj/g7rIBBbu4XsQD t7gtgM3b5F7lw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4DsvR75sxBz6tmH; Sat, 6 Mar 2021 07:12:51 +0100 (CET) References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <87y2f2m551.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtvh8bnn.fsf@web.de> <87ft190z4l.fsf@web.de> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.8; emacs 28.0.50 From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 07:11:01 +0100 In-reply-to: <87ft190z4l.fsf@web.de> Autocrypt: addr=thievol@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQGNBF8ylcIBDADG+hy+zR6L4/vbdDDZuSaMmSrU3A5QZJpeBCvxTr7MpzzruZbhLPW1K3R6N2MA edi8Y+C8o27FVRIjpdbaKMGu9je7JV/TbUQYo3SOwCK1vM4LUn4V6ZLzSYkuiEt4eyMoiDdyvN0p kcK6P9x9DCetcEVszXzQg+yzCVrQ2hXWDXWT4M18EC3wtO7RHPouMqGiwBFhBAYErCqFWFxQHkfb tG/4yGyJ58rglb65O3qijjMWvYwcWZun9/7qm8Z4/4mHopmo2zgU+OrptnLSZfkZGz3Y7Uf452xQ GVq0Fv75NPvQru7y+DYVhuVXXyAmGxt+vf4rIiixMBbhKEPjcxEPAa2LTzex2IsTZR+QVG9uDnqC WcgaOEQ58fzXNvNhtwwF/Rgio2XWAJVdmFWS59/k9W58CIUSNKBMZh2XeGdEmtHvDtCxW3z6FJha 36RzOM3fMNNiAGdFZJA84gcdloJR+sHCDTTPT3784fjr+V8An7sI581NGFzkRQqPvEQCZbUAEQEA AbQSdGhpZXZvbEBwb3N0ZW8ubmV0iQHUBBMBCgA+FiEEI9twfRN7r3nig/xwDsVtFB0W75MFAl8y lcICGwMFCQPCZwAFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQDsVtFB0W75MB3QwAlTsVzFmr +S/tMKwwwOibjhNPi/OZiUC2AYfaqfVAiIHDT3RbzDe03sAJoomJkJnYVjGzQZwibCMO2+ITkMPV 2wvrd4CbgS1KCVbrltwcuK/nxPCBaHytOCZUIInnhJo5PE/h03K0rWhUFLDocpnWwI7mPq33oR9N u2XMNtUQeWhhZHj8dvpMazWIR/c4iPnQiIobETISNlKIVo7DZSl67btoBrZygVYobgHpAYLBpHtH pXUcfM+Jrl8ytLouZ2XYeqzezr1qUDXhPk6mXtEVLJsK4FSS4wT5hPpRozuIwj6sE8OGJIp5uUhm SYm9mjRNJBEgmGUNxMQ/wbcA3NEWxBeIZbRvxMgHG47GJ0TJM4xLpGC8BHUZvuIw05gAtgoA3BGh 5GXbLWy4fi8ozJA/kCkP43d3zh4wTOfQterVTf90bbw6NiNcmXdKH7E/yO1or06bleza39PJsshX 8EETESzVIifk2yDnc0/CQ+FrLY9IwOOszkMouFXmiwN1xMkjuQGNBF8ylcIBDADnIDHEkmk4lUwT lOhwb2yjUfmGPnpH3MCCHkjM9H/P1gTHxFWtwFVPcNMCwXWvKSBTF2dZXKERD0yzG06zT53ZMN7E IIeuY6m4R8IcMvpohciisWxbFoB4ZY117tVSeqjo946itgbpdeESKl9a8dpn7ytZMyYxPdojlQAq xeAJ8444raESh1oTKXb64hlk4l2pSRlrLgjpJBo8asAfZndaxIUKhw68tV8sqeZh9P6cGtHbUELK VJqefNV7V7jF5wf3xvRG6Ces3kSKXalLfs+vrVaoOjQeWrc0AtwFWHmt9JLfKrqF+Q2Q7jUidboW mazQM56ESJFPpPHmWq8k6DHspsFHOforLouTHJL1556IPne7IV2BGfWc0+xLxalZ8F5F+vnPF/Ok rC1CD5iCKTjXKa2iZbcYdYQAiL6P8Ac8CgN6EkhpbxRtzrEgChuNGevdi/G/GHG4Zqrh6YFwIa/N Hq2aVaFq5C1yNTMJd1FRjRzs5JPPlJKpYDnNx+MSp7UAEQEAAYkBvAQYAQoAJhYhBCPbcH0Te695 4oP8cA7FbRQdFu+TBQJfMpXCAhsMBQkDwmcAAAoJEA7FbRQdFu+TXsEL/3nCs8oDLBSTPXylenWK CYLdfZSg8jmwgRKihktU1ZLf8kL/LtEhxdKc9nYQO0gTYdPQ+HEdFbm+gFZ4AxuCtd5zM+MP5Sej pfr93QbLwYCiqsudKa+T7wosBBNFnh8ZQkbnsF6iPIeESCJM0Vhjh1lQ+z1qVkdf/yazwmXspOUh 3kx8dzJQ1F3t6Dj/zHpdNE11bT6wFwTPBFvFeH0yCwDpvVcLbH0xf/0V/RhwkQ4jjae0Cqn8domz RpGODjXkAzoRqpRL9/DvIKTQ/uJQqzu6qvi04foFCmtWTSahJiLtbgHSDNj1HHOivtgeTgtVdAEk ZAqAXJfmaM8KkEi8Rqcbz3AzkjNWjQNkel0xjB3wkewds1iGcvo2/etWOXcvFiLUpy7YnLMZ4J6d jNpwSwDzxvJVy0OvB9SgVF0hX5DdbKTRBSZpGYQgoVdPelGnqs6uq8fa1Ker587E6O6haTIX779d pd5UIX75/XbtumwE0L+IvMpekoM9zH8pCowu4g== Message-ID: <87v9a4x127.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > >> > IOW the block in subr.el: >> > >> > (setq while-no-input-ignore-events >> > '(focus-in focus-out help-echo iconify-frame >> > make-frame-visible selection-request)) >> > >> > is not evaled, it is in emacs-26.3. > > After using Emacs now for half a day with this expression added to my > config I can acknowledge that it solves part (2) of this report. As > said, I don't understand why the expression in subr.el has no effect. See bug#46940, Eli fixed it in emacs-27 branch. -- Thierry From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 06 07:34:05 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2021 12:34:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36182 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIW8D-00060n-J1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 07:34:05 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45860) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIW8B-00060H-RW for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 07:34:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RSaYx7XAgNWFs9+79GcWIHttiElLsdD1asaGuGOmnJQ=; b=W/TEa9Q2t/5rWi79DDmiIGr++A o8+wEKp+Tzckl6DBf/KfLrqMUDQyVFVJfNqpiRmZtrwT57FzKqFhL+VoVwe9+d4Jft7Ne++1A8PjS txImIjM4WC8wJvpVuD+CUzP9rZUoLkYGcjfRyIjcaTXEJFdqwPQVr6dsawBJPl6v5Hz0=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lIW83-0001RT-Cc; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 13:33:57 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEX29uK9srZnUVKw 2vbCOD75Ex3////dnJq2AAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+UDBRALNVNCFOsAAAGxSURBVDjL jZRdkqsgEIWb8i4ggPMeWn0XOwu4OrKAWLD/rUw3oNGZ1NT0A2XO1z8HlAC8DwW/hLr91DSAQbzX X82h95EXxFJB0IxqzI//BCh0FYw0Gsq9U67Y8y0RMWAUEgpQOgM/WQFEEGLIFTJ1BHJTV0CL/XAA Iu98Bh63FdNaARBNBeh22dKa0v8X0FOnnXngElNKz13OwHbOBJFZVyegyWEQOcWbivtsmjprddXt GF6AR5tB5JAshRT3Tp5Qm7AwGD6pTSfgqN0ymKlfa0XjsbPGpwzmDvu+VoD1qKeQwdL1GIcKlCWD iwDcjOP8UHZIfKxTv4WVKwwOoTjOI9hpWOKwhMUfO8muXBsFxI4+sp6KDs0jRT7RMMsGJD5pLG65 lgc+6VH0WV4jh89dUyRf9KdsWEgout0HZ1161XmHoZpfgZxofdgLoMz7OOulJOuH0RplxsXo0QlS bC5GDxCh6pGu4AZno6/ZAN8Msdy812s+XA19B8+TfAZP+JGfQcw38JovgD9isFKjPZ3u9Lag48tu DHa8OnQncMccdyfrAWbevOKbcpNDePPv8ddQX9SQrkJNaazEAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAy MDIxLTAzLTA1VDE2OjExOjUyKzAwOjAwDmLMlQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMy0w NVQxNjoxMTo1MiswMDowMH8/dCkAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Cabaret Voltaire's _The Drain Train_: "(Shakedown) The Whole Thing" Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 13:33:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2021 23:48:42 +0100") Message-ID: <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen writes: > I wonder if Emacs, like Firefox, also does not hang indefinitely when it > happens? I didn't have that impression, but as I said, I can't test > ATM. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > I wonder if Emacs, like Firefox, also does not hang indefinitely when it > happens? I didn't have that impression, but as I said, I can't test > ATM. No, Emacs hangs forever -- that is, until you hit `C-g'. We could add a timeout for this... but yanking data can take an arbitrary amount of time, so I'm not sure we want to go in that direction, either. For instance, if the process we're yanking from is busy doing something else for a couple of seconds, we will get the data after it stops being busy, and a timeout that's longer than a couple of seconds isn't very useful anyway. So I think the current design -- just wait indefinitely, or until the user says `C-g' -- is probably the correct one. Any opinions? In the default Emacs settings, you're only affected when actually trying to paste something from other programs, but if you have a package/use settings that make Emacs interact with the clipboard/primary selection all the time (which it sounds like you have?), then the problem is exacerbated, of course. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 06 19:03:31 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2021 00:03:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38546 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIgtP-0006gN-Dg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 19:03:31 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:56443) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIgtN-0006fy-LT for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 19:03:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1615075403; bh=SangVpHSBCFTOuZ7dDefEkrYwOtYxNQiCayxKVSE1+o=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=fVT406V2zXbhJt+L8cFgDHXsPZP/JntMxxdI89f5oX5PaBjxN3S05nyBJ7NVCIJxz Oeo43dB33vEqmSyHHdTyImjIaxTMWmmTCFjqQuKJvwI1zsPfGUWMjH3heomY/on0vD iT59N3rAJT/K+B4Urn8T2+O5hNxfs82Bcqp+mhRQ= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.220.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lkh7Q-1lqvmR1DUK-00aWHO; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:03:23 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:03:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 06 Mar 2021 13:33:53 +0100") Message-ID: <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:/QAankd67CBdZIUeqiSp07WmuWMFBEahDyG9ZJ2nsDOxYW224eI LnbrwpLkkeDH6VkFp0QTVClpxRUEdoeveI1uYoh3KaVIDEhqnIOS9Iu/izw0zlVJDDTekgB HdP745Yb4xGTpqo3gIv7MiKtnQEE+T373+f/wS1+9JSbKTzvF7sr7eWhr6Lpy2kKOs9ZxU2 pgqkJMxCx8pBIFEAPZrjA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:boeS+M6opGM=:d+W1kfshMXWp3WikxFtRny dHBk7iUg5fuNLe9qL63/29MXuPFTrYVR3JcFeXvANL5/IG3LVt79J8QQqqZN1yfvz/mwG+YOe J/ZZ/02ZBDncPUaOIUPsKMluIMf5mvmS+Cv8AeohC09YRRR4lA73muGOsic0eIcYXmbhKfJ7y 9XNvLNftZAgQ6Rls1WkFomMQlh2ds2Dco9Pm0bGWhhVe//1eiUSMznEKv+7PrkQIf7se2nRLO u7IyhE4uiKayGbZ1MXkvXafA03/GTnKESSnClENmaCQBJM/OzYcVRzxJvuoBSLNJOLNbORttT Q33gd5yqYx01V6BNnk0ric6+lbkyVp0A1YbDVSv2sED4qPzuRmXJFKMH5AR0yv5v5wVpcLPoC UJQObiyuGwcsGzoIxqSKvbpBjQZh9OaPbLfLWgpSG+J35GzAGLoU15kNgdSqNcsYYM/p4Tm7A PDPIplzkXEn+J26C5HfXz4dUMDgnKT6cdxeJolLnqAPN0fo+mrtbxsaybI6OLb5EnNvoxLb34 L93a8n+CfoCo4r6NaeEjhbXxeeio1Nu5KNBjaQgQoi1uTjs2gQkv2342vuZfdzTalxlKS0ibm NaXztVu1yFypHQnVcga2xTWqsivHiSmIOLW3xKCS6lfwYy3O54+CUd1rdloYCr4/NdaEyZMdK HbNq4W1E8cDx1Kh8RDFg0b7GdqLA0703GloLQ/Usoxhw6gg9+hIjKi7dAaWLcWvAgeS/9oF4a XnTRwCfE7u/up1OCqGk9B62fKEkB3uEA2AxbbZwnD0LBGvLzKg0sStvyvLCCdK+EqtlO1CKHG nr8Jn+RxA9SFc3+1ljm+FpogpIXfILSuB8raa8KNASuEg1WxD5xTQ8d/sx8k7ydncI8S/6dGK 6RJ+y3CkbJdamQPIwVSU8+2fRb1H7BsMVoiPXv8NE= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > So I think the current design -- just wait indefinitely, or until the > user says `C-g' -- is probably the correct one. Any opinions? Let me again say that it can be very annoying. "Some Program is busy for a long time" can already be fulfilled with "some program is downloading something from the Internet" which can take...very long, I live in Germany. > In the default Emacs settings, you're only affected when actually trying > to paste something from other programs, but if you have a package/use > settings that make Emacs interact with the clipboard/primary selection > all the time (which it sounds like you have?), All the time? Not that I knew. No package. And only the options that are provided by vanilla Emacs. But now I found this option: `x-selection-timeout'. Shouldn't that be "our" variable? Seems I have set it to 0 (meaning infinity) in my config. Here on this system the variable is initialized with 5000 (milliseconds). But ok, when this behavior is expected when I want Emacs to directly interact with the clipboard whenever I kill something (maybe that's what you meant with "all the time"?) and nobody disagrees with that, then I consider this part of the report as done. Thanks so far, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 06 19:07:29 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2021 00:07:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38551 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIgxE-0006m3-V5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 19:07:29 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:40959) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIgxD-0006lq-6H for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 19:07:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1615075640; bh=xvNjg8DQ2DDXclTcCwTLuytNXJDt+Shd9GNNd2UTj9U=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=arW4CxWi5NaHlw1KEcwUyQeQUSev4qNqhsxwkfxe1YAoWv6dHj4rMgNDon1Lb1Rgg Ko6I539BW+8n6vrRed3nMyMwDa6xsvXcDJgUpgfokQfePpLolYPQ4luTyBpxv1yq8h gAU7Phlyl/utopnEVvqJUx2gbU6+ibv5WDvWx3vk= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.220.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQc7J-1lBMhR2Doj-00TyxV; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:07:20 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <87y2f2m551.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtvh8bnn.fsf@web.de> <87ft190z4l.fsf@web.de> <87v9a4x127.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:07:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87v9a4x127.fsf@posteo.net> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Sat, 06 Mar 2021 07:11:01 +0100") Message-ID: <87im63u8qw.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:7mzzZQWgM265EBntSD4dQocHG2c+938f2AXXkZuyoOr/vxwb+sh GJE+HQ1Zv05mkovl7wydiy/wsB9A5w8VXAEJSeqDBvPfttcpQzB7OWiODFtej+eD6JLFGvf 9Dp2E/arCP64dEeq5gu95ds7d4XUK5N9p9Uas7miZM26q0XSRfBIezfeXvTId5iLd7TxjX/ +aFLdB/viPVjkJh7YeCsA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Rq8M8DUjy3c=:0aA6bcgoCjaZP/bumIK9ZN kJbWn2Il6osT5RNgzCHd29pnziH+pZ48yg8lUt277QfgT3gw+cx42ZpHtzzuS1wr1Sb+10Adb GmQWx7JlM3NaeMvEUHNr1YPbo7y2o2lHqpSTRm/ZOHSanEJ6DEv0pqRa/UP5c9nleoyMPUiC3 LD/yee/Tb+giAGEQrB9gzy+J5PeRJ+Abi8MSsxSY/nYc/rmYk1easG7vuYgQ9sswgCBFu4j0b pEUu3a5gCuWwMnxKMCBACXGs6MJd98v/NTVx0u6ThmJwDNBc9g/HSYDkpfe8iSoCSY3tgpnv9 IZMCyl7r2jzY6lhK44JXu9qkHml7alws4VOKF9eWZPMIOQUYFHSYCwIRoUtuHsTUp2sNnzh06 wxHhcsK8g323DtrfNkL9IRAGgUs8UVPyAAilpmn3RsFwOA0OXBY/mjx9E8ZQSW6Y/bX2oR6/B yGgVfbzas+rPvmGQPd/vTTM+2GS0JWyZopapeqRPA4MQXxoxVyE0mYDL7WZotfRsY0qA6zwL1 U0P12pQSeaK9CPf5aUXly/uIF+28zfq9P84iC18zcgB+xMgg9Q4PdIbqHczKaXh6bak43ftC3 43Gn4osrpaT4YNAlHvGKe1LUZImvwCwz/j0reaGDGFbNufFw8F69aCGVy1cgNRINuD7tq2TMF WX4D45xaobc3j9p4SehtSL4ivcsmErNZBBoMSBVr4DKuDjVbHg1u3lMYb46i6jy+Borwa2IHz oZBgxbYOJaJp/sZkfyop0gysihSH0JQuXFiThct42duuNw9m1QntOsN6lYhdKETBZ92kvQsEs NbSEAUfINxp1gVWIeIZsc12mZf/XJBNwjBsNISs4pm7PWuu3Rl0i0HX6fWzbs2QbDsfhSr5/L TfJ4aHL71s1YrXLZ5FohPIO/KouWEdvVOg9v3HUxM= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Thierry Volpiatto writes: > >> > (setq while-no-input-ignore-events > >> > '(focus-in focus-out help-echo iconify-frame > >> > make-frame-visible selection-request)) > >> > > >> > is not evaled, it is in emacs-26.3. > > > > After using Emacs now for half a day with this expression added to my > > config I can acknowledge that it solves part (2) of this report. As > > said, I don't understand why the expression in subr.el has no effect. > > See bug#46940, Eli fixed it in emacs-27 branch. Ok, good, thanks. @Eli: your fix arrive in master automatically sooner or later, or will it be fixed in some other way - or does it require manual intervention? Thanks, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 07 01:08:04 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2021 06:08:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38768 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lImaC-0000vX-N2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:08:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37220) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lImaA-0000v2-Vu for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:08:03 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIma5-0003d4-Nx; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:07:57 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2810 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lIma3-0008Ti-FI; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:07:56 -0500 Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 08:07:46 +0200 Message-Id: <83v9a3ts25.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Michael Heerdegen In-Reply-To: <87im63u8qw.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:07:19 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <87y2f2m551.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtvh8bnn.fsf@web.de> <87ft190z4l.fsf@web.de> <87v9a4x127.fsf@posteo.net> <87im63u8qw.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii > Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:07:19 +0100 > > > See bug#46940, Eli fixed it in emacs-27 branch. > > Ok, good, thanks. @Eli: your fix arrive in master automatically sooner > or later, or will it be fixed in some other way - or does it require > manual intervention? It does require some manual intervention: the merges from emacs-27 to master aren't completely automatic. But it will happen pretty soon, I hope. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 08 14:27:05 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2021 19:27:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44867 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJLWz-0006uT-Mz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 14:27:05 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJLWx-0006tw-TU for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 14:27:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=K1Y/RrpFDXSgXOYeUOKt6c/tZGm31PsFwcAesi883Nc=; b=nZPBSSvoPRbwQJnsSHHouLErON e2LMFM7kBJWRAfQv6MgPFLy6SVNesie/Yp7aEEMde2FlKuN6gGihyDi3IGN1XzYVYMV9KHcqLpWv+ DAYoxJL/XFAwV7HyVAa+HLiYAXBJl78SlKXJlFTdF6G1kXgh2NpBEFZGs6kOXl5jm4qw=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lJLWp-0005WW-QG; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:26:58 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEX+/v3V0s3JvrWo o56RhXmQc2GTVSRvLQ5THQ8sFxSAOxNXRTliXVkDAgL////qq/GcAAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+UDCBMPLdRuLz0AAAGPSURBVDjLtZI9a8JQFIbvVToIDsngIK2guDr40cGSOpXupUMtdO7V X2BS/0AipdCPQYLcWeikSMFBQUu72aG6NOj5L71JTHOM6SC07xBuzsN7z3tOQshuopnwupwt/OKQ pR1b/Kvo6cV5KKg2mJYPqe/pDaY+hoBLo8nU2zCDobKult4CZc3Qr2vaWbCeMARgtVYvuLgrQx1u AeXtZDQoawLU+QTV98HW67CqsrqJQASAC7B6UQTgKFXKMcBymmgyrePXo9wxwKKU09nN3AcfrgH6 VOl2USgKYDmOgVx9Vk1/iVEPPB3qqoFaxNc3WR3e1kzUIuaBmdk2OJq7sgaLI/hq3aW3Q41EI9NC ++Bu3Tw2xWNBcFpb75mc7fjEoD/j0BlkC2MBehhIos2qWEwnRTK88yWhHCZEylARA3/XohhRhKGS PermB0+BmFd2Ak42QMV+p94BaWxJLojBPa5HwR6LOqf55k35Da+/k9XPMQkPJOL1iaOOlFulsedP TpH7QPxFJCD3dsVvGJBM/ljfHqrYOsKDxlEAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMDMtMDhU MTk6MTU6NDUrMDA6MDAgvsWTAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTAzLTA4VDE5OjE1OjQ1 KzAwOjAwUeN9LwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Coil's _Black Antlers (1)_: "The Gimp (Sometimes)" Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:26:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:03:22 +0100") Message-ID: <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen writes: > All the time? Not that I knew. No package. And only the options that > are provided by vanilla Emacs. But now I found this option: > `x-selection-timeout'. Shouldn't that be "our" variable? Seems I [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > All the time? Not that I knew. No package. And only the options that > are provided by vanilla Emacs. But now I found this option: > `x-selection-timeout'. Shouldn't that be "our" variable? Seems I have > set it to 0 (meaning infinity) in my config. Here on this system the > variable is initialized with 5000 (milliseconds). Ah, I thought Emacs hung forever, but it turns out I was just too impatient. Emacs does indeed hang for just five seconds (when testing with two "emacs -Q"s). > But ok, when this behavior is expected when I want Emacs to directly > interact with the clipboard whenever I kill something (maybe that's what > you meant with "all the time"?) and nobody disagrees with that, then I > consider this part of the report as done. Killing text shouldn't hang Emacs, I'd have thought -- but yanking text will (if you've set up your Emacs to yank from the X selection/clipboard). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 08 22:01:23 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2021 03:01:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45314 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJScd-0005Is-FZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:01:23 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:39389) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJScb-0005Ig-UE for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:01:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1615258875; bh=FcfA9e9hoOE8QCWxjcYEVL4upV65KRf8e0/YEG+VojE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=cbAM7FMW01sYE3P5TAxHGCj8/oiNra7On1Qf7XJGJ9uXRmdytIfT3JYKkWY5FZTTF ovny9c6GMoF8iMOqseRdlGlMH50r5EoGKr1dZg9QcgrosjNvMn1PboqDLj980pQoy9 oRZAaitjt5V5hYkg7AhgGGtr3+Tr/I8S44DBvhVY= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.220.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M7sga-1lfGl125mi-00vRuW; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 04:01:15 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 04:01:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:26:54 +0100") Message-ID: <878s6x9gjp.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2Au4ncloxyHldithsSMX6Gy6MlueEYgVZWa575HCyBvkhk/AN77 YRofcf1m01FW+CX3e9D3Ce38MjC3D3g3Yyym99CcN1Gyfq9ayVJeY7ZNqXNnAx3RLbCAVUV p/sYWF86/NvYNYTzonesh8qr5W/dJwMaYY5yGnA9Y+ZVsNW5le7Mmk8UZS8yeFfXieSzSmA m8zrMJYdK1ZzcpM6ONAoA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1wGZIWv4Ybo=:0OQ8S85Tjt9CedwwrM4we9 8T3JTLbq2WJk+bPpNoAy3K+ynzLExls0Afd+BqJHYlWhCt/EON8u6UvbEgebK7ihAAKQZZBii Oo+9c93/O6qopvshWrJ/dans6vfbuwAkNPQyRTpXV0DbUTOZYoQDefUnpjwf+vBgU/9gXMyi5 FmZXl6g+8fdjw9iEZDJY2Hs13Cd7pe+Y/QP9/sNY+tq2r0KteSkEcp0UrE7tT9J+bGLf5vuDg y0Lin9vaZIyBDKOm4UV9Jl3qKRyaRIZNsud/TBynRp/9DLwEvA3v1I7YqxF+3923B7Mtruicn NwD6JVUoWQxaLXx3E4ITIw66+EHo2RXu1+HMZrccWcyECnzQr24+l3cD01TvDqu7RxOOirD8/ Gq3Q6Bz4x4A+Ul5Qu8uk5p6nrGdzkHOoKzm+IiCwhk0JgaYAe7Icjsczs/QykAbr0FU3WU/oa 3OrYZCmOY57U3kjmF5nxmfXKMmAMeZfh7opkHK059nvpNDwsdFRRtC7P/8chzU645D9OClfmE p2dsL84GjXYrngpoDyW5GpE+d7wE+zS5hzG/n2CcPF3B5yebraQIuSm1H+o5ZhIsT0paL1b+2 H8ZHRvvVLP4NFq9Zc5wuVVcZHkHNNifxbQpVc2grCsUCDIq+WrNaE1HYa+kokNezqva4temyg VzLkbYNdHvCs8zFiJFutxPsVqrcMWv5grNDMWN1xnJ+cPFOPcpCApMjJFQuEGOf+wr9w0DxwY 9Dl/5v0+YVSYMHEghBZFrZCZ2xbqwY/mc4+tWNRaUbmRJ4IoDaNeidLlv543V1mmZvhdxniWQ E0QZyYvkCqoUcthUH6lBFmFwXKj33tbw7jqkp8k5po/9+iHZ+M4dQ25LrMxh4+XWBxvnb9QJF vZJ9fpjAzqRsB6eej7eJCyAeLIMd7wEmnJSAQ0AfY= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > `x-selection-timeout'. Shouldn't that be "our" variable? Seems I have > > set it to 0 (meaning infinity) in my config. Here on this system the > > variable is initialized with 5000 (milliseconds). > > Ah, I thought Emacs hung forever, but it turns out I was just too > impatient. Emacs does indeed hang for just five seconds (when testing > with two "emacs -Q"s). Would it be appropriate and technically possible to implement a visual feedback like "waiting up to X seconds for feedback from whatever" or even a little countdown "waiting for feedback from system clipboard, 3, 2, 1, giving up" or so? > Killing text shouldn't hang Emacs, I'd have thought [...] Question is whether that can be avoided. Does anybody know? Regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 09 09:11:39 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2021 14:11:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJd5H-0005ab-I5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 09:11:39 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51774) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJd5F-0005aN-92 for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 09:11:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=HCaxihTi0b1nev1V0EVEBPRqd1UTaVv32LDiIv4HQhw=; b=Uds9pJP15a2i9pxwwyntdHtGqR NTZbjgishJZQMcDgSYgEhw8jrnd+NpecmSou3VbeszGTGIacI5RtbH6+93Rk1J6pn7inSDxCS6oz+ OAwgCkEKZv1pDJVrtyn9lo5TW2ZrLm+x3zyzKIZLzQySWTxsIJ8nQiEwXQbhLQtsLxY8=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lJd56-00076r-LD; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 15:11:31 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> <878s6x9gjp.fsf@web.de> X-Now-Playing: The Ex's _Turn_: "3-45 AM" Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 15:11:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878s6x9gjp.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 09 Mar 2021 04:01:14 +0100") Message-ID: <87lfawl8mo.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Would it be appropriate and technically possible to implement a visual > feedback like "waiting up to X seconds for feedback from whatever" or > even a little countdown "waiting for feedback from sy [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Would it be appropriate and technically possible to implement a visual > feedback like "waiting up to X seconds for feedback from whatever" or > even a little countdown "waiting for feedback from system clipboard, 3, > 2, 1, giving up" or so? Looking at the code (it's receive_incremental_selection that does this stuff, I guess?), it seems like it should be possible to implement something like that in wait_for_property_change. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 09 21:10:12 2021 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2021 02:10:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48325 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJoIe-0006il-BZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 21:10:12 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:54813) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJoIc-0006iS-D2 for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 21:10:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1615342204; bh=P6PMyOeDlmneZb7+yqxxfNTUgYXTIcClJxrDa/sz5us=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=NXiwQkbeETsy+SUP1nTPjef59v7tYV7/KN/S4R+vR/cC+onyljfb4I9UsYv0RsSG8 A6RsAAiBOcNuVwBx9ZTq+eyUvIRLMdAxith9/rYzunDpvIQ5ZwfCoKL6Cf/TfINWwn AuUmiv7iSGmDQ7hK58H2RR60Xvg2x9qYPeaBENqA= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.220.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lw189-1lny9W3iUX-017mIA; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 03:10:04 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> <878s6x9gjp.fsf@web.de> <87lfawl8mo.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 03:10:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lfawl8mo.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 09 Mar 2021 15:11:27 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1kn21z8.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:0iXO05F9roLR/Lpf1ZwrXqsLolYk3KpxwrsuvJG28h1V6B2p1Zd rSMb9stf3Us0kf+py0KYAVkadPpDhCSBqqtfGr0jPsW7YP4xRCT1b1wPJYvnhXV0RyGJK3H Jd/lQQ/779/cRQJi7K4zUf8g/q2u/4QiEdMsCp3oo/PlDNOe1Asf+6lTerlsj9gWIczJlGQ E70mq6a2yO8jFay5C4QBQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:f7lERi8DOJk=:LpH1ko/FZPEDvh/7voqL3Q hmwy/9v4BlRysDoXVzKw6MU55orBLFwAJ/GRsOROKFqsC5vSFJbDzUFkzQE74Kq4O21n3azfB leiOmWYzGyYMUPbHv7PPcASeHgm8VzQvMZx/pnD1UlBTvoRrd7ULcXIJNVViKL8ZcKdD4C12G d8DKm6nJNc8jJgjn7KdDLbZMtuT4rJOkglU0oSTBIjjoDOheMKsBNw4niWZ5Ci1kX+cpVCwyp Y8d0hmZ101JeLt2/eQFDUMQJGa1e0Wk95VQqERAGdcOg4EqSfXHaYe0fst65Q0YWWOKIpLSuP iH7uVft7bQgRFT7lY2rCTsHmW2OSyc4kLA5ylpSg9AMUG+7ktT/ghyQNStKQdo9HgUUkoKUBV gwuplb7koN5Lf4M5IeLLBRNXNHAl74wZeULSy/3bwnYlwgOxiGC4E+c/NXsPz4Yoh9CCnKgDS d7Bj9StJgv3ATAMurfan6STmmSTTIdXWwF9NPDsCgdNO/aHf3q2CijYBjr8ZfleNKWmhinxdN GejeUvCYmX2ei9BR9ykVgtjlW50gyRNERaw1SoNgTPGFr8ul9/aznYQWQaGfYi2aHcNNrJLem s2VXD1pxZB5EKHJ3GJ24qbd/hJoFUQgzZt/iiUk58YW8QsAnf/Y5+VZWOEBBMDICNo3csHnTm jTrgvA49fye1HWyA+qyQuxYHQYAg4v9OXJqb5vyATniP5jFNXjAIjB0MhuyVCBsgoBAAesKGe qeKns7wWM1c0sEZYx7r0OP/Nydunp5ZqBBMGTdG5op3cBPOZbCek6a9Pn28I0fHheYjwsw/W1 umJVaqnhFKJtdmKUCeJ+h6b0wwuVkQViljlmrkk1TgkTdYrQJG7B8Kc9neJo5mVUYPj6fniKL u62H0cuVNqndPBYubRwidmz2++w9l/xRVvK94g+y0= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > Would it be appropriate and technically possible to implement a visual > > feedback like "waiting up to X seconds for feedback from whatever" or > > even a little countdown "waiting for feedback from system clipboard, 3, > > 2, 1, giving up" or so? > Looking at the code (it's receive_incremental_selection that does this > stuff, I guess?), it seems like it should be possible to implement > something like that in wait_for_property_change. Ok, so to implement this is my suggestion, and I think the only thing that developed from this discussion (with other words: this report can be closed when this has been done or rejected). I can't implement it though because I don't speak C. Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 20 07:54:00 2022 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2022 11:54:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54620 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o3Fyi-0008UO-NS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 07:54:00 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o3Fyg-0008UB-HN for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 07:53:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=n+6CxYnBL6aOQqgWZo2mCmJQx9VfK14fs/NRe9u7GVc=; b=EGaMUEKDtpiMryPDvIZ7PfTetd yTFpAvgeaudVup0xL8pq7zKzwGssXfVhB6DtRdL9Rc+pxlxQgQhfQJxki8iSu6N2OmrGy/+I+y+ye YkfneIX1FFfRaHmBMi+baJJcPUB2wG8z9FhcIVbUonznpgbWpWhc9TkBvNYwhu5FaYbo=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3FyX-0001Ca-8j; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 13:53:51 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Dr. Motte & WestBam's _Fabric Presents: Octo Octa & Eris Drew_: "Sunshine" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 13:53:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:26:54 +0100") Message-ID: <87edzj360j.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> All the time? Not that I knew. No package. And only the options that >> are provided by vanilla Emacs. But now I found this option: >> `x-selection-timeout'. Shouldn't that be "our" variable? Seems [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: 46935@debbugs.gnu.org, Po Lu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> All the time? Not that I knew. No package. And only the options that >> are provided by vanilla Emacs. But now I found this option: >> `x-selection-timeout'. Shouldn't that be "our" variable? Seems I have >> set it to 0 (meaning infinity) in my config. Here on this system the >> variable is initialized with 5000 (milliseconds). > > Ah, I thought Emacs hung forever, but it turns out I was just too > impatient. Emacs does indeed hang for just five seconds (when testing > with two "emacs -Q"s). The current trunk is back to hanging forever in this scenario. Test case: $ emacs -Q Then select some text with the mouse and then `C-z' in the shell to stop the Emacs. Then start a new "emacs -Q" and use mouse-2 to paste. Emacs will now hang forever (until you hit C-g). So it seems like things have possibly regressed a bit, since it used to heed x-selection-timeout? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 5ee57c0402e7d5914156f85ea3696ead; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 12:59:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> <87edzj360j.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 20:59:15 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87edzj360j.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 20 Jun 2022 13:53:48 +0200") Message-ID: <87mte7mqxo.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20280 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 803 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > The current trunk is back to hanging forever in this scenario. Test > case: > > $ emacs -Q > > Then select some text with the mouse and then `C-z' in the shell to stop > the Emacs. > > Then start a new "emacs -Q" and use mouse-2 to paste. Emacs will now > hang forever (until you hit C-g). So it seems like things have possibly > regressed a bit, since it used to heed x-selection-timeout? > > Perhaps Po has some insights here; added to the CCs. Thanks, should be fixed now. The problem was wait_reading_process_input skipping the call to select upon detect_input_pending even when just waiting for a cell, without anyone reading keyboard input from the keyboard buffer. This bug has existed for a long time. I wonder why it was only just reported. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 20 11:35:00 2022 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2022 15:35:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o3JQa-0006iA-Ad for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 11:35:00 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o3JQV-0006hq-Sb for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 11:34:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=GtUPjc2cygDTaHy7URV/gXSZYogEhT7OItvu1TZJhus=; b=D17kTKg2hXTB2IwNIMpOJgMUKd fLojFwYRHvLQIGFcDYlk1sQJMWGgJ5lbKcr+pxuf8+XJ/VPfUrBFwd9HkKQbjbHXh++9TMUMv2VH3 ONWSET1/gYdFOOG+2wSLZw2P8n1fQw7L2r0w7RJMG6yY3gZWKjdRUU8njaOwOGkg+6hc=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3JQM-0003BI-M2; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:34:49 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Po Lu Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> <87edzj360j.fsf@gnus.org> <87mte7mqxo.fsf@yahoo.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEXbDFuwJEijPUbh nrP///8C+YAWAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+YGFAwYAjn9Z0YAAAGwSURBVDjLtVJRrtww CITnCwC5QCAXiM3979YBZ7vdp0pVPx67ihLGzAxgIiaEaIULK2ucpoocnwLsi8Iigk/1MDtPAPOY 447Dkb5WWh5+TXeisY485spYeQEIfOTKvGnceYy1Ft2Zh+Wd48bbBsaY96CZec2ke8yZV4IKB0F1 rAI0bY71AvC7AYD4ChSN4iwAbwDSAgDAHPNa1wW76mSIsounulc/IWhQiFXD1Lp70yiox4HOvVOY RA3GNWokVIOpbzVnxhOU4QVw6WjRRVEiGxsgUG2SrqvSswCWBvQR16r0BkoC+zDrw232cVX8XCTb Qjj71qgsdrcFGER7g8TPUkvEao8QEdmNCDMY682LMbwrXsZ4XwmWeAB5t2Co8GI7n4puo68JDheZ PwC1dufDilC2XWIW9t1zDcwecS0darvdquhj6qnbDpje8QAgKCbUSYtz/+GsFo4ZKrmYvVwhvMaL w1xW5JNtD0joM+qy7CvzDYBR2JfWlA9j1T9xC76YlYul5iUC+a/fJfxapEpPvofxDt4M/N3Vn0c+ xLmNykv5LyH/kd2N7CZ/MOSfJ34BxMc9qiZyOsEAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjItMDYt MjBUMTI6MjQ6MDIrMDA6MDBQZ2gJAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIyLTA2LTIwVDEyOjI0 OjAyKzAwOjAwITrQtQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Boris with Merzbow's _2R0I2P0_: "Evol" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:34:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mte7mqxo.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Mon, 20 Jun 2022 20:59:15 +0800") Message-ID: <871qvj2vsb.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Po Lu writes: > Thanks, should be fixed now. The problem was wait_reading_process_input > skipping the call to select upon detect_input_pending even when just > waiting for a cell, without anyone reading keyboard i [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Po Lu writes: > Thanks, should be fixed now. The problem was wait_reading_process_input > skipping the call to select upon detect_input_pending even when just > waiting for a cell, without anyone reading keyboard input from the > keyboard buffer. Thanks; I can confirm that it works fine now. > This bug has existed for a long time. I wonder why it was only just > reported. Unfortunately, people have a tendency to just live with quirks like this instead of reporting it... Anyway, it was suggested to issue a message if the selection takes a long time, so I've now added this. I wasn't quite sure on what level, but `gui-backend-get-selection' seems an OK place. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 22 08:46:29 2022 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2022 12:46:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o3zkb-00083J-MK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 08:46:29 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:57295) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o3zkY-000835-Id for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 08:46:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1655901978; bh=4n7MBJCqBZWE7akZoHT2Efz1N8naxxv2kih51Bkor70=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ScORgsVuC7ReCQn17AR0Zgn3CetEe7t9LKXICY6mYckpAmJrYg7T1vBbK8pz/MP2p q7uym5RerdRbLVWpQHBur8fw41c1G8PP61V4W3rwseXO7jq1qHJb9ERx29D75x4kAu 5Ct5L1RpAnfQUV1fqCdI7WRQ6zIkT6K+7GhBAxOw= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([84.60.174.246]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb105 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MHmm4-1nrOIe1RO2-00FAPK; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:46:18 +0200 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> <87edzj360j.fsf@gnus.org> <87mte7mqxo.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qvj2vsb.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:46:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871qvj2vsb.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:34:44 +0200") Message-ID: <87edzgeui0.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:owQB7ackDHlW2BgyTd1Da0jF9mucILVEYMNBynABjpumfMygmVN /iM4xutoS+Z8yZFDcnuDiNOPjW+7KF50rHZXBkYvy6r8eHKqoWQx/udgYVpUmHGxYWAlAJt eKl106eiethtMtIYY5rBnztw50uvQlONKXHoBJccG6GLmM8GajmcbNcYknjtlGgqERG8/Yt q58WK0Qxo3Zayv4KqdANQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:lJmsHxC3DWA=:3cSRTXzb8ZJNx+IZFUZ6cc Eh3h0xeSPKPs7ZlNENvmlin5ohKu3ynzTAVObUn7S3/igRRCE1rhEA+NOdoBWJ2c4UPYAcKPT XdQ9o/MB7qgb1+Y5yIpqHKuBM/69j10Q1MIyisq2m1RWzXAwn3DYGoYTV+NV0Dazgv3pDQmrG Squpxz6lSHD51tkLvgF+UXxvrARgv8tpytjz8RBIblwBpkFbXSRW1eiQ4W5D8ttEadRCUyCr4 4Uuyjyto4lObpxqDjEvEY8Btct7sacNjCSgqCn9ajJj3aCNiJYd/66qRdpFPiIBgT3UnAT3Nr 5fsRPF2dRzFYSVjPwnAq92j94tcm3KSd00x9PFJL7r0lj2FRXdm1KNT+MHXRAIeMxBO3svrs5 eGN81lrXsEmzDL7ETmKZczCOed+kjwAWSSm70YZyTT7wf9iRebH3uAIr3UiSMRxybKNeWaDFb 08f8cu/+oY28kc9VrN6fd7KGBsCXVxAlFb6UolVLcK+bluMJIXT6sdMs7pDmZSUIzVPOSZMQj DFrQLXLIP8wg8EgXuCzKMeN9NRvYs+Tl9yt6LP3dcxEjkYlVIdwkqKvbkrMlfcOAqESbuGjsU FHFJUo3D/6bgO9upXU3N+KHEy7urkVyufjhW1asrjdYzeaT7bMGNshN8hv1fVB2fPIiQNn7kJ HShPk6B0/ZDugV08QhoZiHafSHRm7W+J6eGSl+k0VZ5YSXj2mP2h8QF4c+QhIZ4FDMBchVOF/ UzY0XUW/ZnbA0BSJyfZwXDz1bHtsbgVTlw9nN06U1TrJqhUvqH2oVinog6GLkoX4cx3c2UaS4 PPhZ4QqLslek67A5yoPey1kQAJWFP4t8xGyxmOHqW6Oqh/20qgJd7sl7b9sJR0G9WUJUoMLJt YpgfFxca2+4No6V8joPBNKB8MgtYcF29zjvFwVBTJaS42fuBh6IvvYeq4Tzgtz0Uj+LCsYQ6e eZGDLZW8fUe0pSXO3h7cW+RoVLabf5lPS+nN/YLNn3DZ14OW1tRpJeuPfaHwB/bHYA8Afbx9B a5ueRP/d6LbXhpIjVxUs+kubQjtCvkq10F0btf6swZvrru6m9gD55m6ZiH7FnGpdSuZc/UttP qwDSRPfzNSjfzpRBqjrWtMZFdgAmGo48cYs/A7fDDiOsPudbc5bjU9ZBw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: Po Lu , 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > This bug has existed for a long time. I wonder why it was only just > > reported. > > Unfortunately, people have a tendency to just live with quirks like this > instead of reporting it... People might also think that it just might be their fault. > Anyway, it was suggested to issue a message if the selection takes a > long time, so I've now added this. I wasn't quite sure on what level, > but `gui-backend-get-selection' seems an OK place. Seems to work well for me. Thanks! Can we close this one? Thanks, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 23 05:02:34 2022 Received: (at 46935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2022 09:02:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o4IjS-0003sF-DT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 05:02:34 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:36266) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o4IjR-0003s1-3f for 46935@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 05:02:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=IfNwbC1cFNaouvTtQFATlnkQteH/0FsyznhmSlbatvE=; b=alye20FhTpcIk15OcmKMtKhpo+ OQn4W0FwtgxmPuSLZQSS7naOT0LQh5yMTdHvlLJHmA5DuG6J3tXmp/eOC4+E0u/BrNBpMx8NsnKJa hllxO5qbJNYbYclxrxGd2DsEWM9B8iVauIXAx657qExum6ColRyT6cPrc/koh4hBh8bI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o4IjE-0005Fn-NQ; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:02:26 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#46935: 28.0.50; Annoying interactions with X clipboard References: <87blbyzefq.fsf@web.de> <871rctr9w5.fsf@gnus.org> <87im658bed.fsf@web.de> <875z24piku.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtvfu8xh.fsf@web.de> <87o8ftmoox.fsf@gnus.org> <87edzj360j.fsf@gnus.org> <87mte7mqxo.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qvj2vsb.fsf@gnus.org> <87edzgeui0.fsf@web.de> X-Now-Playing: Kraftwerk's _Trans-Europe Express_: "Endless Endless" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:02:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87edzgeui0.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:46:15 +0200") Message-ID: <877d57zrab.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen writes: >> Anyway, it was suggested to issue a message if the selection takes a >> long time, so I've now added this. I wasn't quite sure on what level, >> but `gui-backend-get-selection' seems an OK place. > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46935 Cc: Po Lu , 46935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen writes: >> Anyway, it was suggested to issue a message if the selection takes a >> long time, so I've now added this. I wasn't quite sure on what level, >> but `gui-backend-get-selection' seems an OK place. > > Seems to work well for me. Thanks! > > Can we close this one? 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