From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:52 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#46735 <46735@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#46735 <46735@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Major Mode Bindings Starting With ... "looks" very ordered Reply-To: bug#46735 <46735@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2025 08:50:52 +0000 retitle 46735 Major Mode Bindings Starting With ... "looks" very ordered reassign 46735 emacs submitter 46735 =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson severity 46735 wishlist tag 46735 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 23 19:20:25 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2021 00:20:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lEhuj-0005BT-3R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:20:25 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:46020) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lEhuf-0005Am-Pt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:20:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34650) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEhuf-0006jm-KS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:20:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.34]:8557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEhud-0007Wv-Ss for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:20:21 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701F95429E4 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 00:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a43.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-10-160.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.10.160]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 13E4E541993 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 00:20:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a43.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.10.160 (trex/6.0.2); Wed, 24 Feb 2021 00:20:18 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Spicy-Cold: 7a107189311642ed_1614126018282_1951570731 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1614126018282:3221785798 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1614126018282 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a43.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a43.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C957EE97 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:20:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=6dhHm4SoCT1nB8Xs+k64jA1XpHo=; b=SRMpHUzx3GkGQrf3 4J91Kfzso4t9xaUg+aUvdRjZffmua2yI9PXRfWfTsze4SvkRyvCTUuUKcyFMj7Cn y4Z5+ltJswbdQBACeAHLyJr4Rk10dcjJL6TRD56ZcLJ/YWcl5+56caQuATqXAtQb im0AqZn9KySd9mFcS+kfvRSRHE0= Received: from jidanni.org (114-46-58-252.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.46.58.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a43.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E9D87EE96 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:20:17 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a43 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Major Mode Bindings Starting With ... "looks" very ordered Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:27:12 +0800 Message-ID: <874ki30y1r.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.212.34; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=cheetah.elm.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -5 X-Spam_score: -0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.543, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) "Major Mode Bindings Starting With ..." "looks" very ordered, but actually isn't! Proof that W C-h (ran from gnus summary buffer) is not ordered. W E s gnus-article-strip-leading-space W E t gnus-article-remove-trailing-blank-lines W E w gnus-article-remove-leading-whitespace W T e gnus-article-date-lapsed W T i gnus-article-date-iso8601 W T l gnus-article-date-local W T o gnus-article-date-original W T p gnus-article-date-english W T s gnus-article-date-user W T u gnus-article-date-ut W T z gnus-article-date-ut W M b gnus-article-view-part W M c gnus-article-decode-charset W M h gnus-mime-buttonize-attachments-in-header Sure, "Emacs never said it was ordered." Yeah but then why trick people with 99% ordered output? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 24 11:24:21 2021 Received: (at 46735) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2021 16:24:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lEwxZ-0000FX-J4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 11:24:21 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43756) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lEwxX-0000FI-JY for 46735@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 11:24:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=EDNLVLlS+LQuH68T2go6F09uc6HZRX6QT9Rr8nCMlhM=; b=PJpaes7XIqNteCBpWcWPXSZLMd P5TJCqfLP3Km0AXJ6m/jyD4Xc5yJSucb+JtgsOkoT3KuP9NdEzDcnRldlLyd7HUs4UhC2BNq14qZi Im9F0iTT0k17IZkySp2/QRwUilAHfyZcVpXjrM49xFf7JbHmB0nrBd+gof84YZp2aXso=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEwxP-0005dt-8E; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:24:13 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#46735: Major Mode Bindings Starting With ... "looks" very ordered References: <874ki30y1r.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Now-Playing: Eats Tapes's _Still Works_: "Cue My Tam Or Ban Me" Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:24:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <874ki30y1r.5.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:27:12 +0800") Message-ID: <87sg5l8mdy.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson writes: > Yeah but then why trick people with 99% ordered output? It's sorted by key binding. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46735 Cc: 46735@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > Yeah but then why trick people with 99% ordered output? It's sorted by key binding. If you have questions about Emacs things, you should consider using the Emacs help mailing lists instead of using the bug reporting feature. 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