GNU bug report logs - #46633
[PATCH] Prefer mailing lists to newsgroups in FAQ

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>

Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:40:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: fixed, patch

Fixed in version 28.1

Done: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>

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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: [PATCH] Prefer mailing lists to newsgroups in FAQ
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 03:39:24 -0600
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Severity: wishlist

I suggest that we talk about mailing lists ahead of Usenet newsgroups in
the FAQ, as mailing lists is likely to be the most common way of
accessing Emacs discussions these days.

Please find attached a patch.
[0001-Prefer-mailing-lists-to-newsgroups-in-FAQ.patch (text/x-diff, attachment)]

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46633: [PATCH] Prefer mailing lists to newsgroups in FAQ
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:13:53 +0200
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 03:39:24 -0600
> 
> I suggest that we talk about mailing lists ahead of Usenet newsgroups in
> the FAQ, as mailing lists is likely to be the most common way of
> accessing Emacs discussions these days.

I don't mind, but is it indeed so?  I see at least some people here
use the news group.




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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>, 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46633: [PATCH] Prefer mailing lists to newsgroups in FAQ
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:03:02 +0100
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> I suggest that we talk about mailing lists ahead of Usenet newsgroups in
>> the FAQ, as mailing lists is likely to be the most common way of
>> accessing Emacs discussions these days.

Looks good to me.

> I don't mind, but is it indeed so?  I see at least some people here
> use the news group.

Some people do, but they seem to be in the minority.  At least among
those who post.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>,
 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46633: [PATCH] Prefer mailing lists to newsgroups in FAQ
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:34:50 +0100
>>>>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:03:02 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> said:

    Lars> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
    >>> I suggest that we talk about mailing lists ahead of Usenet newsgroups in
    >>> the FAQ, as mailing lists is likely to be the most common way of
    >>> accessing Emacs discussions these days.

    Lars> Looks good to me.

    >> I don't mind, but is it indeed so?  I see at least some people here
    >> use the news group.

    Lars> Some people do, but they seem to be in the minority.  At least among
    Lars> those who post.

Some of use use gmane to read the list, and reply in email.

Robert




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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46633: [PATCH] Prefer mailing lists to newsgroups in FAQ
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:52:14 -0600
Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> writes:

>     >> I don't mind, but is it indeed so?  I see at least some people here
>     >> use the news group.
>
>     Lars> Some people do, but they seem to be in the minority.  At least among
>     Lars> those who post.

(That's my impression too.)

> Some of use use gmane to read the list, and reply in email.

IIRC, Gmane is just a (cool) hack to mirror mailing lists to a news
server, so everyone can pretend they are reading news and get all the
good stuff that comes with that.  So Usenet newsgroup names don't apply
to gmane, right?

IOW, we could perhaps discuss Gmane in addition to Mailing lists or
Usenet, but it would be discussed as its own, separate thing?

(It's been a while since I used Gmane, sorry if I'm confused or
confusing...)




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Message #20 received at 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46633: [PATCH] Prefer mailing lists to newsgroups in FAQ
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 16:01:38 +0100
Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> IIRC, Gmane is just a (cool) hack to mirror mailing lists to a news
> server, so everyone can pretend they are reading news and get all the
> good stuff that comes with that.  So Usenet newsgroup names don't apply
> to gmane, right?

Yes, there are no Usenet newsgroups on Gmane.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




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Message #23 received at 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46633: [PATCH] Prefer mailing lists to newsgroups in FAQ
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 03:18:13 -0800
tags 46633 fixed
close 46633 28.1
thanks

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> I suggest that we talk about mailing lists ahead of Usenet newsgroups in
>>> the FAQ, as mailing lists is likely to be the most common way of
>>> accessing Emacs discussions these days.
>
> Looks good to me.
>
>> I don't mind, but is it indeed so?  I see at least some people here
>> use the news group.
>
> Some people do, but they seem to be in the minority.  At least among
> those who post.

Thanks for reviewing, now pushed to master as commit 331e49df45.




Added tag(s) fixed. Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 22 Feb 2021 11:19:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug marked as fixed in version 28.1, send any further explanations to 46633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 22 Feb 2021 11:19:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 22 Mar 2021 11:24:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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