From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:28:28 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#46453 <46453@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#46453 <46453@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: emacs org version confusion Reply-To: bug#46453 <46453@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:28:28 +0000 retitle 46453 emacs org version confusion reassign 46453 guix submitter 46453 Christopher Howard severity 46453 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 11 18:35:29 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2021 23:35:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59555 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lALUf-0001d8-0A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:35:29 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:33052) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lALUb-0001cy-QI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:35:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lALUb-00037n-EO for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:35:25 -0500 Received: from mx.kolabnow.com ([95.128.36.40]:61340) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lALUZ-0004Bj-5D for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:35:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by ext-mx-out003.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97694047C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 00:35:18 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kolabnow.com; h= mime-version:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from :subject:subject:message-id:received:received:received; s= dkim20160331; t=1613086518; x=1614900919; bh=m8Yv9ZcQ34GZ6wSb/gi y38O2aWdjVCCrRcATh5Yk4e4=; b=qOrkn7z2ZzlUOdyvLwRAJiGbBGaMPvzCwbe f/XtD+fVN5nLh1H8q0JIpk6X11bFErzYMrHjPNa2cvgJzk/dcQJkBPbwoseNrLeS AKHVjYFQwJVKn7B9fkTzBupS3eyGoWZXtFC0tuy+4fovmpEN3iR1hubE4qR7GlSe /HqW9EqSWQdlVwT0bsxWgjLC3lI0rsL7EsBrc3og8ITf9JI0FQlDALMi8a9QijrB g3yUeeqBxlvuDt9ciD/U03INFWfCVwWNDYhg3tG6ppgmiugIEJig2pxx5fpblFXp XPRKuXepMim0rxnH1sRpVqMBtZ8gJKP7vsZEIvw3I7iiYm/xPTaOcZM3XTHpxlGg 39vs4OswhocsFeYzZoX2VWPUuF3aFtC0KX8OjhQPN3QSeWW9EqVsH0y1MDwIH5vt HJSCdgLuRlNiodNm54Km/5Ab/Cw/M50HNYOXBbvV4E09CzsTQqDsV1VPCKvnLyix AfFeCCv16wlY+v+T4sFk23iIFaOxbiFDWfKopude9HfSRGzTL5F7BXgMmIJ7TAgj q7qqphFRWuOLK2d0giQMJBMMS+EzVbOfagV/wE1Zr38kcCCuaixfCO6TGDIlFJdO IF4T+GHuLL0rkVpjOSxIpltnpPV4SXgn1VRnrlVc0OxIf06ui0R0QYV8xf4kfEFs jDgb4BKc= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mykolab.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mx.kolabnow.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ext-mx-out003.mykolab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pbunxv1UGsSj for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 00:35:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from int-mx001.mykolab.com (unknown [10.9.13.1]) by ext-mx-out003.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15FE340389 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 00:35:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from ext-subm003.mykolab.com (unknown [10.9.6.3]) by int-mx001.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A3AB138 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 00:35:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <59c018135355bc6012a23f847baaf1c1fc408037.camel@librehacker.com> Subject: emacs org version confusion From: Christopher Howard To: bug-guix Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 14:35:11 -0900 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-uN3sHaePqfqL8ZFNL7uN" MIME-Version: 1.0 Received-SPF: none client-ip=95.128.36.40; envelope-from=christopher@librehacker.com; helo=mx.kolabnow.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-uN3sHaePqfqL8ZFNL7uN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, our emacs package, as well as the emacs-next package, appears to come package with its own release of org (org-mode). M-x org-version gives version 9.3. However, we also have an emacs-org package at 9.4.4. Emacs still tries to use the 9.3 version if I install emacs-org package. So, I'm confused why we have both. Also, I'm wanting to use the newer version as the old version has an inconvenient bug. christopher@theoden ~$ guix describe Generation 11 Jan 28 2021 08:54:56 (current) guix 34861ac repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git branch: master commit: 34861ac8eae3935b19b387545ca3c4c311fb66e7 christopher@theoden ~$ neofetch --stdout christopher@theoden ------------------- OS: Guix System 34861ac8eae3935b19b387545ca3c4c311fb66e7 x86_64 Host: OptiPlex 9020 00 Kernel: 5.10.11-gnu Uptime: 7 days, 5 hours, 17 mins Packages: 90 (guix-system), 86 (guix-user) Shell: bash 5.0.16 Resolution: 1920x1080 DE: GNOME Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] Terminal: kitty CPU: Intel i5-4570 (4) @ 3.600GHz GPU: Intel HD Graphics GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 8490 / R5 235X OEM Memory: 3571MiB / 7871MiB --=-uN3sHaePqfqL8ZFNL7uN Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, our emacs package, as well as the emacs-next package, appears = to come package with its own release of org (org-mode). M-x org-version giv= es version 9.3. However, we also have an emacs-org package at 9.4.4. Emacs = still tries to use the 9.3 version if I install emacs-org package. So, I'm = confused why we have both. Also, I'm wanting to use the newer version as th= e old version has an inconvenient bug.

christopher@theoden ~$ guix describe
<= div>Generation 11 Jan 28 2021 08:54:56 (current)
  guix 3486= 1ac
christopher@theoden ~$ neofetch --st= dout
Memory: 3571MiB / 7871MiB --=-uN3sHaePqfqL8ZFNL7uN-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 11 19:41:34 2021 Received: (at 46453) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2021 00:41:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59595 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAMWc-0003Bh-1I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 19:41:34 -0500 Received: from out0.migadu.com ([94.23.1.103]:53147) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAMWX-0003BU-BO for 46453@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 19:41:31 -0500 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kyleam.com; s=key1; t=1613090487; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ZaN5ox6tYYn40TT7WfFEZ9tTp/E/Alj45epS6nsnWi8=; b=owP+YmoSOGJbz707RMdjun9+OzeOyd/2mE0oyEbcPzX4Q3kgF72ErSdUKN7kQoppaNbdW8 Bbeh8r6HeX1N10vBtt+ikZRvMl3QxioaZy4fMhE3DJb3uYmwjX6fG5U+gce/e3Y7drr9qC Me3owc1y36+DEAfgkTjIxEwZ2dvssWc5iHAnWPm0oaDrMkgUfCeU+14svfMnz+6oaxQZUQ o5DRJODimqrOxRW5V9LV2kNVQSuNKJrRkVXJYPEyhtAQwIZrLOhrQFm0703fK3Fq5wOu5b KE+5eNdVLMD0LCd8ColH1UA1B1GQjbpq+5EaiTSIJELEKkl5roUA/nJkt0SczQ== From: Kyle Meyer To: Christopher Howard Subject: Re: bug#46453: emacs org version confusion In-Reply-To: <59c018135355bc6012a23f847baaf1c1fc408037.camel@librehacker.com> References: <59c018135355bc6012a23f847baaf1c1fc408037.camel@librehacker.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 19:41:20 -0500 Message-ID: <87r1lm86dr.fsf@kyleam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: kyle@kyleam.com X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46453 Cc: 46453@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Christopher Howard writes: > Hi, our emacs package, as well as the emacs-next package, appears to > come package with its own release of org (org-mode). M-x org-version > gives version 9.3. However, we also have an emacs-org package at 9.4.4. > Emacs still tries to use the 9.3 version if I install emacs-org > package. So, I'm confused why we have both. Org ships with Emacs, but a separate package (in Guix, ELPA, etc.) lets users run with a more recent release. > Also, I'm wanting to use the newer version as the old version has an > inconvenient bug. > > christopher@theoden ~$ guix describe > Generation 11 Jan 28 2021 08:54:56 (current) > guix 34861ac > repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git > branch: master > commit: 34861ac8eae3935b19b387545ca3c4c311fb66e7 Hmm, at least based on the simple check below, things look okay on my end: $ guix time-machine --commit=34861ac8ea -- \ environment --pure --ad-hoc emacs -- \ emacs -Q --batch -f org-version Org mode version 9.3 (release_9.3 @ /gnu/store/5zphg9jhx4psn6qm8gmf209igr7qdr7r-profile/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/org/) $ guix time-machine --commit=34861ac8ea -- \ environment --pure --ad-hoc emacs-org emacs -- \ emacs -Q --batch -f org-version Org mode version 9.4.4 ( @ /gnu/store/vwfb1nkkkl5nq9lavbvwxfldmhib2nvh-profile/share/emacs/site-lisp/) And the list-load-path-shadows output when emacs-org is included looks as expected (i.e. share/emacs/site-lisp/ Org paths hide the corresponding share/emacs/27.1/lisp/ ones). On your end, list-load-path-shadows reports that the share/emacs/27.1/lisp/ paths hide the share/emacs/site-lisp/ ones? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 11 20:24:20 2021 Received: (at 46453) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2021 01:24:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59610 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lANBz-0004CL-Q0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 20:24:19 -0500 Received: from mx.kolabnow.com ([95.128.36.41]:17258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lANBx-0004C7-Pc for 46453@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 20:24:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by ext-mx-out001.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E7C9D7; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 02:24:11 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kolabnow.com; h= mime-version:content-type:content-type:references:in-reply-to :date:date:from:from:subject:subject:message-id:received :received:received; s=dkim20160331; t=1613093051; x=1614907452; bh=CdYwMC7ManS7mRXb9FBF6fgTeJvtZ1Z0TJ8pyeTStPQ=; b=c4IVNbLYgtYI LivVq0io0ie3vdck/ehCfMnyS+5F3Q5RA2SUWkODEg6ZluAMq0zdRAAg0TmtXYSv fxkWg/kaGpRJmbnhICwO2sH/v0VYmhUdRdA2PvtqHIvaGaax0dBv6oeNdavBNNL5 8g2JwbeUhfwqYWlDYkYh/yambUZe639RU9tv+2GCveAF5fSEpdYukREWIZTbyAUX pri3TjeBehM/8TdeVsFsl1w2oYbOSD0uG2X3s0CXWFKst+zUjUCcm5J2Ofko+Var yf0JaFvyKbqv/qJKetm3tyTjKV2owi3xgpHV0+sNNrwvzqrUoo1UsXXfboD5aYKP fl1gYJLvfknirWdxbZ7n/3hXEJmBecDKlQk6DhoUacg8ckBWB7PvRITJ1BJhWlGM +srUzeybp1lDL6CQRrSorFQ2nfvrVBVrR7tnD+/vL0YYlKQB4MODWD0tKuxPpYa4 PWh5xaAJ3taqrI0FslRmnst375ZzoCojsdG7BpW7dvHVO7HI5YIY38NeNyUOsswd v3qn5TlJJdP4fxG6ILdNAbvBAqUotgqg2938e1ni9szhtFC2qPuqLYLcHVmoi1+e 03XWX37oMNjWHgOvK27ERIMtJQAb1umss6mYXs2XXZXryWdjoMWoxs1dYW8THT8s SSouInW9SFbHL2/ol9xJ2r7sVxNL1vk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mykolab.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mx.kolabnow.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ext-mx-out001.mykolab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id go0tZWEjxoY1; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 02:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from int-mx002.mykolab.com (unknown [10.9.13.2]) by ext-mx-out001.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74E08983; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 02:24:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from ext-subm003.mykolab.com (unknown [10.9.6.3]) by int-mx002.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB2F9224F; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 02:24:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#46453: emacs org version confusion From: Christopher Howard To: Kyle Meyer Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:24:03 -0900 In-Reply-To: <87r1lm86dr.fsf@kyleam.com> References: <59c018135355bc6012a23f847baaf1c1fc408037.camel@librehacker.com> <87r1lm86dr.fsf@kyleam.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-m+VKdkaet3pYP6lqC+4B" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46453 Cc: 46453@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-m+VKdkaet3pYP6lqC+4B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I installed emacs-org in my profile and then logged out and back into my DE. After that the newer org version is reported. Thanks for your time - feel free to close this bug report. Christopher --=-m+VKdkaet3pYP6lqC+4B Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I installed emacs-org in my profile and then logged out and back i= nto my DE. After that the newer org version is reported.

Thanks for your time - feel free to close this bug report.

Christopher
--=-m+VKdkaet3pYP6lqC+4B-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 11 22:34:09 2021 Received: (at 46453-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2021 03:34:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59665 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAPDd-0007Fo-C4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 22:34:09 -0500 Received: from out1.migadu.com ([91.121.223.63]:62988) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAPDX-0007FP-1a for 46453-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 22:34:07 -0500 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kyleam.com; s=key1; t=1613100841; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=b7UkaBg1vDw4wakAEHWjFwXips28tmtEqKYRHbkyRKY=; b=aTw1EtbZ/QV+23lrafvHTwm52PCsYwzkkJWqnItPlEfXiMY2x5hMCwXExgtVXUGHSgMg+X jnTYxmhsWnntF151GNH5GtKU9uzbqp+97ir4rz3Ya2I5XfgUYl3WDSSrhO1UdELd48FS9Z OjwtfOKmAJGPbzpR2RyA4J2Nq0ZqdRNXDx/6wljUI55xKSJZNK/9J2IRcryZXKDDGpX1Tm bzWKF8INEOyNIKxUE0uYXiOQLVtoIKiBLjup/bZ7kDA5AG/+ryAtIZEGzZoMmaKt6SpnPS Q0IvcBYL57N4wB65K6gljq98Is7xZKsYFM3oKbG8CfzdW7bYXEWmfLri8SN2hg== From: Kyle Meyer To: Christopher Howard Subject: Re: bug#46453: emacs org version confusion In-Reply-To: References: <59c018135355bc6012a23f847baaf1c1fc408037.camel@librehacker.com> <87r1lm86dr.fsf@kyleam.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 22:33:59 -0500 Message-ID: <87mtwa7ye0.fsf@kyleam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: kyle@kyleam.com X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46453-done Cc: 46453-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Christopher Howard writes: > I installed emacs-org in my profile and then logged out and back into > my DE. After that the newer org version is reported. Thanks for the update. > Thanks for your time - feel free to close this bug report. Sure, closing. From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:28:28 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 12:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator