From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:52:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#46369: 28.0.50; Bind clone-buffer into the new C-x x keymap Resent-From: Sean Whitton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 18:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 46369 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 46369@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16127223436550 (code B ref -1); Sun, 07 Feb 2021 18:26:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2021 18:25:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48737 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8okh-0001hZ-4A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:25:43 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58150) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8oke-0001hR-Ky for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:25:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54944) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8oke-0006Rz-Ey for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:25:40 -0500 Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.21]:51299) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8oka-0005AC-Bn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:25:39 -0500 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DF6A92 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 13:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:25:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=spwhitton.name; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= fm2; bh=LfZOTAuqQCnpxELRc+5+tZELq0FS6qSNlzYh8rT4slY=; b=pEdiw77Y CywLmoz02gUvYs/3tjUlYiOYOP/3D5Oe4UE9J5zPkkU7ydMWxp8q3EHpCgRkPFo2 yDYuvblXo8VF1zhXjaVzE6cA1zDSkLYkn7GbLnl1kBORW6Dppdo02zBSvRUdB/HD n9RYoUTCqcC4Lvstvf79dlk5bNiVFDJ5/f1lpLP5Y6QrXnFY9qxlKZqDr81O5ena H/MwuNtMuxfJo3XdHZCdIdXJWmSL5Jf7pk2cEVJHkh3Q3GO1OXKPdDdDARtcstzA E28KVRzN30xLlSvnr21WNZom4hmN42QLMHvi5k7Hw82cpvHK6rkCC/3GacMz5SMZ GaPCkf9W/SSAgQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=LfZOTAuqQCnpxELRc+5+tZELq0FS6 qSNlzYh8rT4slY=; b=aRzFHg8xAOAS/ODEiRofNNW8XdZgJc0kzsNBOPX4Axrrn I4Gm5WS+qdhEmzG7K+XfQnfYbJ5OR8vxaSH6DeVArTBkqN8hlGlrInzVNaq4q9r7 v4jpbNpkAEyVbFQ4EpxbZSLtCYzyUq9vlZKcyyxPfxXDqhlsT4lp3OlCHtwDE060 FXMiW+fqyzI+kTsPxK28wqDa4IwYHpuaLX72t+mEZBlXVIu35km68qx894ZxI/Ia vkAQKDvKzYHKdbspfVj/5RlZ8JHeiy+3mKg0lOTaM+Z6sKyKQQDGIJDS0To56i2F XX1iD2omeDkaFfNI/hTJ9UK1ZB/w6qqAUQupmq5dg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrhedugdduudefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefhvffufffkgggtsehmtderredttd dtnecuhfhrohhmpefuvggrnhcuhghhihhtthhonhcuoehsphifhhhithhtohhnsehsphif hhhithhtohhnrdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepteegtdejheejvdehgeettd dvjeffudetuedutdegkefhtdetteeuueetkeefkeegnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgep tdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepshhpfihhihhtthhonhesshhpfihhihhtth honhdrnhgrmhgv X-ME-Proxy: From: Sean Whitton Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 11:26:25 -0700 Message-ID: <87eehr20q6.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.21; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Hello, I noticed that Lars has bound rename-uniquely to C-x x u. I find that clone-buffer is a useful companion command to rename-uniquely so would like to request binding C-x x n to that (the letter 'n' follows Info-mode binding it to M-n). Patch attached in case that makes this easier. -- Sean Whitton --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Bind-clone-buffer-to-C-x-x-n.patch >From 3a6b6815f287622c100fcfdcc5b369e961de7b88 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Sean Whitton Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 11:24:29 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] Bind clone-buffer to C-x x n * lisp/bindings.el (ctl-x-x-map): Bind clone-buffer. * etc/NEWS: Document the change. --- etc/NEWS | 5 +++-- lisp/bindings.el | 1 + 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS index f65e3cf672..d4b792531e 100644 --- a/etc/NEWS +++ b/etc/NEWS @@ -241,8 +241,9 @@ search buffer due to too many matches being highlighted. ** A new keymap for buffer actions has been added. The 'C-x x' keymap now holds keystrokes for various buffer-oriented commands. The new keystrokes are 'C-x x g' ('revert-buffer'), -'C-x x r' ('rename-buffer'), 'C-x x u' ('rename-uniquely'), -'C-x x i' ('insert-buffer') and 'C-x x t' ('toggle-truncate-lines'). +'C-x x r' ('rename-buffer'), 'C-x x u' ('rename-uniquely'), 'C-x x n' +('clone-buffer'), 'C-x x i' ('insert-buffer') and 'C-x x t' +('toggle-truncate-lines'). * Editing Changes in Emacs 28.1 diff --git a/lisp/bindings.el b/lisp/bindings.el index 9462468b1b..2f4bab11cf 100644 --- a/lisp/bindings.el +++ b/lisp/bindings.el @@ -1418,6 +1418,7 @@ if `inhibit-field-text-motion' is non-nil." (define-key map "g" #'revert-buffer) (define-key map "r" #'rename-buffer) (define-key map "u" #'rename-uniquely) + (define-key map "n" #'clone-buffer) (define-key map "i" #'insert-buffer) (define-key map "t" #'toggle-truncate-lines) map) -- 2.29.2 --=-=-=-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:52:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#46369: 28.0.50; Bind clone-buffer into the new C-x x keymap Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 18:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46369 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sean Whitton , 46369@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 46369-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46369.161272334116399 (code B ref 46369); Sun, 07 Feb 2021 18:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 46369) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2021 18:42:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48777 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8p0n-0004GR-Aj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:42:21 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f49.google.com ([209.85.221.49]:44354) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8p0k-0004G8-Kg for 46369@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:42:19 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f49.google.com with SMTP id g6so1652402wrs.11 for <46369@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 10:42:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kxPZFSR3zz7kK04VHgUocPjC8HItGIRP/32VFyJv66Q=; b=hIo4BYs7eH66gTkbj3NTRgyv5tst2N7UNeqWCDT1DLKZvEyKqqtzQANyRRCDSx40WL 0pbcgDnU2mq0Kgt0obdyeilmEuGBglC+UK5VM56KVL9rrsLBUu6KeJk7eLz1vBjxDuBW lyvz+HRfYpE+npBic4af1fMHotcMLLybQYyfQt4D3wg2r56PjPlUs0wH0C8qUGHzcGMD ThUk3jx/CslCXvNx0LM1lnCkvG7HOq2DzNSmh+QMnINIhF2bEtBpQwD5D8hEmEnROCOt 57GkEfq3ezUb29qzyjyuZ4AJ/3fK88qp+ek8zeWKo09b5F5Bj0WHhcuoPq0CVZHLSUY0 W6jg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kxPZFSR3zz7kK04VHgUocPjC8HItGIRP/32VFyJv66Q=; b=DmZp9R6qdxtsKL7PCdCM6cVy9sAZxJR4dnvqCltgi0JfIJ83BOkrbm8M0XVLjOw8HK z5oxj4CA3oqBg062jp2NC2o7ZS+hoMT1mitKnQz9yMDPQtJ5ccAUM2gxxXDX+WyVbOCc UMGIEr0tAoQ8fQ8xqgSSC7Bj9gT7Iecug0Nidr1HdZYuFPB8ZvE1395ni18fu2o874Me 2XP2h8XBxKnJVAFT/dNkAEFlnlH8WTr4mpeeP8OoVGIbMXsLnDrHSxkcIfy/LrhN99I4 Mp0SPhPWK5xE2cKalNX2yVPiKo4rbdPN0dLSmyuWu8rCtGbz3AdR+z54Cmn1t2yu5w+0 y/ng== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5337HSPXvz+WqGiFBZSMHmMubdV+17eMQXwt1RdR+ropjHT7SM0e IRbaQ7SOAThiRlzN0YDiAxNguYxFR5o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJycu3uhw2xftkXggPJ8n76N9GDP7AvHkhksXHDj4p83mokg650Ue8kEalRtaQ08u1Ap7WSgPA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ea12:: with SMTP id q18mr2992045wrm.79.1612723332661; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 10:42:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p18sm23577893wrx.84.2021.02.07.10.42.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Feb 2021 10:42:11 -0800 (PST) References: <87eehr20q6.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <68c053f5-1309-d50f-5178-b5618149116e@yandex.ru> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 20:42:09 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87eehr20q6.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 07.02.2021 20:26, Sean Whitton wrote: > I noticed that Lars has bound rename-uniquely to C-x x u. Aside: I think this binding is inconsistent with 'vc-revert' (which is 'C-x v u'). Possible alternatives: - Not binding rename-uniquely at all. - Moving its binding to 'C-x x R' (so that two very similar commands don't take up different keys). And possibly moving revert-buffer to 'C-x x u'. 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Please refrain from binding keys by default to prefix key `C-x x'. 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Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 07.02.2021 20:26, Sean Whitton wrote: >> I noticed that Lars has bound rename-uniquely to C-x x u. > > Aside: I think this binding is inconsistent with 'vc-revert' (which is > 'C-x v u'). > > Pos [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 07.02.2021 20:26, Sean Whitton wrote: >> I noticed that Lars has bound rename-uniquely to C-x x u. > > Aside: I think this binding is inconsistent with 'vc-revert' (which is > 'C-x v u'). > > Possible alternatives: > > - Not binding rename-uniquely at all. > > - Moving its binding to 'C-x x R' (so that two very similar commands > don't take up different keys). And possibly moving revert-buffer to > 'C-x x u'. "u" is somewhat mnemonic for VCs, since `vc-revert' "undos" what you've done, but in non-VC buffers, it's not really -- you're reloading/regenerating, not undoing. And `revert-buffer' is `g' in special-mode-map, so keeping it g-ish in the global map makes more sense, in my opinion. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:52:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#46369: 28.0.50; Bind clone-buffer into the new C-x x keymap Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 22:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46369 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 46369@debbugs.gnu.org, Sean Whitton Received: via spool by 46369-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46369.16127357643703 (code B ref 46369); Sun, 07 Feb 2021 22:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 46369) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2021 22:09:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8sFA-0000xe-Ab for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 17:09:24 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f45.google.com ([209.85.221.45]:34838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8sF8-0000xD-NZ for 46369@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 17:09:23 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f45.google.com with SMTP id l12so15060395wry.2 for <46369@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:09:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UN0jEpVYhYPgwpqWnmHD7SdInpzcAyGbq1RkVleldUo=; b=qp4qewGtUGDaZ6Qjhslj/5ckhnwXOQeVQ/pGFKe7FJfuoOplFM6f2UJ62G4zqxxd4q 9SpAovUZRxc5QK+ozVTD8CiBT9PWg0vGbjIpzf9GNW5+M9jZL3Zy8Y6epVaEYlsrVwyf Tay/J2Bevd9urZkrEZW1omddM6CUnj4d3HRiyOG87y8JI2GczJSNZywq5ivrTBHUK84F 3kmBDd5K8FE81yP819/N/kOq/NHBj0gSD4TkX8eGNl8kisOCOkl/RFukS1bMTW1pr8+o BjPWp1uhxw6fjyVmARfS5uYYZsAWfEsrwni06ejryQMpwjFRBkodM2fZYGE2UIWDLA1e 9bCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UN0jEpVYhYPgwpqWnmHD7SdInpzcAyGbq1RkVleldUo=; b=bzDa3X9B2oBzBeQXe/7CIXKc2icRc4tObAXbNq/VuwARF+l0qo/Jj1/sQ6D8A/IGcB CH5wIYnsKW6zkgMeEENezkvq8aUpkXHXcak2Xs7bztBch2NriC6ImDQI1jI2yTOR6o8l xNkhK/Lpe4bw+Xh8xk5hjY+eq5Ky72IHcyt/fW8OHoyYl1tTlunbE/HlUNMxBCR4PTfW Qqi8V3QIoFRQBfn3NyvNQgHyoklxNLCAhiGlzK4cHsDCjnxkepR/ad3Tr/u5a1Gh0tEL nRE3fWout9V9366zgzNZ0+vTOTHNtZsO+gUd6F2B0jOzIJQ3/ukuCqDUu+ANrEJwfSrv 7LYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Hxq3cK6dNPXJS+aDdOymkRXzHfa8zP3xPo0ErX0GNhbEeD0n0 qcvX+BAGXULN8I+FV/ozl5o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxa7PVE3iZfx1wfLhLggFPfnAxjbE2mrcFDQ803P38nvu2JB5ZzdbFPfWE3BWfHofPx3g9okQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:dd81:: with SMTP id x1mr4074506wrl.233.1612735756863; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f3sm18729090wme.26.2021.02.07.14.09.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:09:15 -0800 (PST) References: <87eehr20q6.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <68c053f5-1309-d50f-5178-b5618149116e@yandex.ru> <874kiny3rr.fsf@gnus.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <773404d1-be80-a3a7-c52d-db1092fb3a75@yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 00:09:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <874kiny3rr.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 07.02.2021 23:19, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> On 07.02.2021 20:26, Sean Whitton wrote: >>> I noticed that Lars has bound rename-uniquely to C-x x u. >> >> Aside: I think this binding is inconsistent with 'vc-revert' (which is >> 'C-x v u'). >> >> Possible alternatives: >> >> - Not binding rename-uniquely at all. >> >> - Moving its binding to 'C-x x R' (so that two very similar commands >> don't take up different keys). And possibly moving revert-buffer to >> 'C-x x u'. > > "u" is somewhat mnemonic for VCs, since `vc-revert' "undos" what you've > done, but in non-VC buffers, it's not really -- you're > reloading/regenerating, not undoing. Also undoing, though: when the buffer has some unsaved changes. > And `revert-buffer' is `g' in special-mode-map, so keeping it g-ish in > the global map makes more sense, in my opinion. Right, that too. So I don't really so much have a problem with 'revert-buffer' being on 'C-x x g' as with 'rename-uniquely' being on 'C-x x u'. But if 'revert-buffer' were to move to 'C-x x u', I wouldn't find it odd. Because 'revert-buffer' pretty much has two different jobs: - There are file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function is never set, and revert-buffer reverts to contents saved to disk as well as re-initializes the modes. Up until now this function never had a binding. - There are non-file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function must be set, and the command does whatever revert-buffer-function says. This is usually bound to 'g', though apparently not always. If these were two different commands, I don't think much would have changed for the vast majority of our users. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:52:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#46369: 28.0.50; Bind clone-buffer into the new C-x x keymap Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 06:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46369 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dmitry Gutov Cc: 46369@debbugs.gnu.org, Sean Whitton Received: via spool by 46369-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46369.161276560217394 (code B ref 46369); Mon, 08 Feb 2021 06:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 46369) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2021 06:26:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l900P-0004WU-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 01:26:42 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l900N-0004WG-Ns for 46369@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 01:26:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=SGt2VNIxjaq5qJB/CFNklPOSkjCvSjGJ8/NoY7o3vLw=; b=KQaDGwjGNPL6Jgs4c1z5/d6eDT HSjH3UYdc/JCsf7TSWDL2csep6wkfLwIeUN6ZNFVWUiQC7DAI9Twj7CJv8cWVCme18qPoEz35+bYO zI2Pp/H2s/7sDP7FcmsSFS9ahBnfAjWnnMBApKQgoJ28kZHaxL5ef7NTJ7QltZ2VfYN0=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l900C-0001i8-08; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 07:26:33 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87eehr20q6.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <68c053f5-1309-d50f-5178-b5618149116e@yandex.ru> <874kiny3rr.fsf@gnus.org> <773404d1-be80-a3a7-c52d-db1092fb3a75@yandex.ru> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEVONSCYbDjGnVzo w4/////FvwTCAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UCCAYAF7J3omsAAAGiSURBVDjLZVSJccQw CASnAcE1YFADkdx/b1nQY/viyUQMK2BZ0BEVFilMhEP8VJ8ficE2YOkylfmR93pdHS4cMD4Bi7CQ WlzMv4ywvM8WuWl+UWwYhcKJC2XW6CNVFk+EVvG2WF0ZiWoohdo3kBGUxYNVUgijXkR3aUWkScao b/dgER0E40E1RJH4N5gISnvP2xytzVtxSWcNlkhbdjWU0Wt3KshII1sWG3cKF9YQcZCRHc1O2Yav CBoG1xp9X2e1slOFVa/0A0gKyZ6Q9cCcEmg+IrIn/6UDU+w5wAkEf5JPCaB5qzHx1YiTSzuq1waF VA6jHQFJDzuPBrsaPwDSzn6yCYosgHJ9xFhDEhCzpUTSdWG3GFMFUGjTZTlZ4wAVWxotEcVKyvDw L9Ei12MgW3Z9eOfsbxYPQNdewXwBsVvLLnu1ie9NjLXiaRWI/QAADQFZ2N8A1MzHIpD6DaDgSXvZ b+Do8RTjNX4BKrnNRnn4TVJyIR/HluENLPY8gTzs1gp+15kcB5jrouTz/X/R/fF/3+oaSSLRNyDx o2Mx9o39AQbITJimC/42AAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAyLTA4VDA2OjAwOjIzKzAw OjAwzztZsQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMi0wOFQwNjowMDoyMyswMDowML5m4Q0A AAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Bob Dylan's _Blonde On Blonde_: "Temporary Like Achilles" Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 07:26:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <773404d1-be80-a3a7-c52d-db1092fb3a75@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Mon, 8 Feb 2021 00:09:14 +0200") Message-ID: <877dnjnkh9.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > But if 'revert-buffer' were to move to 'C-x x u', I wouldn't find it > odd. Because 'revert-buffer' pretty much has two different jobs: > > - There are file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov writes: > But if 'revert-buffer' were to move to 'C-x x u', I wouldn't find it > odd. Because 'revert-buffer' pretty much has two different jobs: > > - There are file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function is never > set, and revert-buffer reverts to contents saved to disk as well as > re-initializes the modes. Up until now this function never had a > binding. > > - There are non-file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function must be > set, and the command does whatever revert-buffer-function says. This > is usually bound to 'g', though apparently not always. > > If these were two different commands, I don't think much would have > changed for the vast majority of our users. Yes, that's true -- they're really quite different things... but I'm not sure I feel much enthusiasm for detangling that bit at this point. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:52:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#46369: 28.0.50; Bind clone-buffer into the new C-x x keymap Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 06:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46369 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sean Whitton Cc: 46369@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 46369-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46369.16127671674608 (code B ref 46369); Mon, 08 Feb 2021 06:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 46369) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2021 06:52:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49588 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l90Pe-0001CG-Q8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 01:52:47 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44208) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l90Pc-0001Bt-MH for 46369@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 01:52:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=fVDa7Qp31zvPNnK2CI8TCJzNFpWfpXMJvqoVEvUUmh0=; b=fgH8SmRGpQB6Xim/1p+kJlpZfp a2l58Zh4/cJIoBCGVmoD8oqLhdXQ2hR5RXlZNN3V7R+w8FLhWhkJBeQn9RsQ0/yH9CX7F6siOjiI9 6YnheD7Q6eMml3ETaV1M7AAf9KZoP8MpV7g56lKrzBBYWJh9ujnbV/oja1hlAP4ZgsTc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l90PU-0002By-IM; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 07:52:38 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87eehr20q6.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> X-Now-Playing: Aretha Franklin's _I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You_: "Respect" Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 07:52:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87eehr20q6.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (Sean Whitton's message of "Sun, 07 Feb 2021 11:26:25 -0700") Message-ID: <87o8gvm4p8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Sean Whitton writes: > I find that clone-buffer is a useful companion command to > rename-uniquely so would like to request binding C-x x n to that (the > letter 'n' follows Info-mode binding it to M-n). > > Patch attache [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Sean Whitton writes: > I find that clone-buffer is a useful companion command to > rename-uniquely so would like to request binding C-x x n to that (the > letter 'n' follows Info-mode binding it to M-n). > > Patch attached in case that makes this easier. 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Because 'revert-buffer' pretty much has two different jobs: >> >> - There are file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function is never >> set, and revert-buffer reverts to contents saved to disk as well as >> re-initializes the modes. Up until now this function never had a >> binding. >> >> - There are non-file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function must be >> set, and the command does whatever revert-buffer-function says. This >> is usually bound to 'g', though apparently not always. >> >> If these were two different commands, I don't think much would have >> changed for the vast majority of our users. > > Yes, that's true -- they're really quite different things... but I'm > not sure I feel much enthusiasm for detangling that bit at this point. FWIW, I'm not saying we should split them (the benefits are small), but that keeping revert-buffer on 'g' in special modes and yet on 'C-x x u' otherwise can make sense.