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[82.37.201.33]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm9555268wrr.3.2021.02.04.08.03.17 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 04 Feb 2021 08:03:17 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Oliver X-Google-Original-From: Peter Oliver Received: from froglet.home.mavit.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by froglet.home.mavit.org.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 114G3GEQ015860 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:03:16 GMT Received: from localhost (mavit@localhost) by froglet.home.mavit.org.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 114G3GW9015857 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:03:16 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: froglet.home.mavit.org.uk: mavit owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:03:15 +0000 (GMT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; Best default for ispell-program-name Message-ID: <3d4d8987-f388-dc95-bd43-d7cc4c29d3bc@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-1463811583-1018014547-1612454596=:15751" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::331; envelope-from=mavit@mavit.org.uk; helo=mail-wm1-x331.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1463811583-1018014547-1612454596=:15751 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT The default value of ispell-program-name is decided by looking in turn for the binaries aspell, ispell, hunspell and enchant-2, and using whichever is first found. Would it make sense to sort these in order of which we believe to be best? As I understand it, which backend is most accurate varies from language to language. Assuming the quality of the Emacs integration is equal, I would suggest putting Enchant first on the list rather than last. Enchant doesnʼt do any spellchecking itself, but instead selects a backend based on a per-language configuration preference, automatically skipping any backends which are not installed or for which dictionaries are not installed in the current language. I notice that the Red Hat/Fedora packages patch Emacs to put Hunspell first on the list (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/emacs/blob/rawhide/f/emacs-spellchecker.patch). The rationale for this was that if Aspell was installed but the Aspell dictionaries for a language were not, then ispell-buffer fails (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713600). If, instead, Enchant was tried first, this kind of tinkering would not be necessary. -- Peter Oliver ---1463811583-1018014547-1612454596=:15751-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 04 12:29:15 2021 Received: (at 46298) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2021 17:29:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42162 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l7iRP-0001VE-4B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 12:29:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34468) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l7iRM-0001Ur-R7 for 46298@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 12:29:13 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l7iRG-0001Bz-AQ; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 12:29:07 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2986 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l7iRB-0003se-K5; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 12:29:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2021 19:29:02 +0200 Message-Id: <83czxfrbc1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Peter Oliver In-Reply-To: <3d4d8987-f388-dc95-bd43-d7cc4c29d3bc@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> (message from Peter Oliver on Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:03:15 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: bug#46298: 28.0.50; Best default for ispell-program-name References: <3d4d8987-f388-dc95-bd43-d7cc4c29d3bc@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46298 Cc: 46298@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Peter Oliver > Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:03:15 +0000 (GMT) > > The default value of ispell-program-name is decided by looking in turn for the binaries aspell, ispell, hunspell and enchant-2, and using whichever is first found. Would it make sense to sort these in order of which we believe to be best? Not sure we need to change the order. ispell-program-name is a defcustom, which means users are invited to set it according to their preferences. We cannot pretend we know the preferences of each user. > As I understand it, which backend is most accurate varies from language to language. Assuming the quality of the Emacs integration is equal, I would suggest putting Enchant first on the list rather than last. Enchant doesnʼt do any spellchecking itself, but instead selects a backend based on a per-language configuration preference, automatically skipping any backends which are not installed or for which dictionaries are not installed in the current language. I have the impression that Enchant is still a new player on this field, and keeps changing significantly. Maybe it's good enough in distros that use the latest versions, but what about people who have older versions installed? One more reason not to try to second guess what is best for the users, I guess. Does anyone else have an opinion? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 05 04:51:04 2021 Received: (at 46298) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2021 09:51:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42856 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l7xlX-0000Sa-0L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 04:51:04 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39126) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l7xlU-0000Ru-Hc for 46298@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 04:51:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=GUwflH/7dKMQjaRme+TIHxVncZKetJhuLMNk3F3cs+k=; b=eFpGfsohxOWG/FzRe3/xnd8r3G /IOgnsQFtrdHiPHtK6nE+tB5E07mnAXvn+pERRtZ3XAi1B0TFls8INq/5qWgq/r3cqBXcR5ZfVn/Q 56OZclsav/5KwnMXXno911Ffn8ZD55LHqOn6eCQwrApoYD1ZI4m2ypXPMF64WU5z3aAw=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l7xlL-00014m-No; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:50:54 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#46298: 28.0.50; Best default for ispell-program-name References: <3d4d8987-f388-dc95-bd43-d7cc4c29d3bc@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> <83czxfrbc1.fsf@gnu.org> X-Now-Playing: Julie Driscoll's _1969_: "The Choice" Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:50:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83czxfrbc1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 04 Feb 2021 19:29:02 +0200") Message-ID: <87sg6akflx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I have the impression that Enchant is still a new player on this > field, and keeps changing significantly. Maybe it's good enough in > distros that use the latest versions, but what about people wh [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46298 Cc: 46298@debbugs.gnu.org, Peter Oliver X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I have the impression that Enchant is still a new player on this > field, and keeps changing significantly. Maybe it's good enough in > distros that use the latest versions, but what about people who have > older versions installed? > > One more reason not to try to second guess what is best for the users, > I guess. > > Does anyone else have an opinion? Enchant does seem to be the more modern solution, so it might make sense to have Emacs give it priority. On the other hand, changing the priority will mean that older users will suddenly start using Enchant instead of ispell (or whatever), and changes like that are always painful. So I don't think it's worth it -- at this point, at least. If, at some point Enchant becomes the vastly preferred value, then we can reevaluate, but my feeling is that that's not currently the case. So I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 05 04:51:07 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2021 09:51:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l7xla-0000Ss-Vl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 04:51:07 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39142) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l7xlZ-0000S2-KS for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 04:51:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=klZAoY3bZWc1sToq9YadkuqOcvfU8qrfT8r+5C/ZSoE=; b=Ndl8S7KPc24HY5w4vx9vhFCQx2 rJGnMPGs/rnOl7/YG2vzkBTEQkxZCAqOOmiSXSl5i8JjyhB4hri6fAv7txvtCgfoW0gYEhxDZAjPF ifhsBtni1yBlkW/q4rmpiQfcx2PeJcy0w2M1+F52mTfKERQJ0raDAudeWU029qU6hFmE=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l7xlR-00014u-Vj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:51:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:50:56 +0100 Message-Id: <87r1lukflr.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #46298 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 46298 wontfix close 46298 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 46298 wontfix close 46298 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 07 00:44:29 2021 Received: (at 46298) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2021 05:44:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46774 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8cs0-0005Fy-Rq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:44:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8crz-0005Fm-A2 for 46298@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:44:27 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8crt-0002mz-F7; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:44:21 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l8crk-0002h6-Et; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:44:13 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87sg6akflx.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:50:50 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#46298: 28.0.50; Best default for ispell-program-name References: <3d4d8987-f388-dc95-bd43-d7cc4c29d3bc@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> <83czxfrbc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg6akflx.fsf@gnus.org> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:44:12 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46298 Cc: 46298@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, p.d.oliver@mavit.org.uk X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Enchant does seem to be the more modern solution, so it might make sense > to have Emacs give it priority. It seems to be a front end for various spell checkers including Ispell. Emacs already knows how to talk with them. 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[82.37.201.33]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2sm14380454wmn.10.2021.02.07.05.11.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 07 Feb 2021 05:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from froglet.home.mavit.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by froglet.home.mavit.org.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 117DBQ1p009954 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 7 Feb 2021 13:11:26 GMT Received: from localhost (mavit@localhost) by froglet.home.mavit.org.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 117DBQWZ009951; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 13:11:26 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: froglet.home.mavit.org.uk: mavit owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 13:11:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter Oliver To: Richard Stallman Subject: Re: bug#46298: 28.0.50; Best default for ispell-program-name In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <3d4d8987-f388-dc95-bd43-d7cc4c29d3bc@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> <83czxfrbc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg6akflx.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46298 Cc: 46298@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , eliz@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sun, 7 Feb 2021, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Enchant does seem to be the more modern solution, so it might make sense > > to have Emacs give it priority. > > It seems to be a front end for various spell checkers including Ispell. > Emacs already knows how to talk with them. > Does Enchant offer any features of its own? Emacs ispell.el supports only three spell checkers (plus Enchant), whereas Enchant knows how to talk to seven. My understanding is that general-purpose spell checkers perform particularly badly with some languages, so it would be of particular benefit for languages for which Enchant supports a dedicated checker. -- Peter Oliver From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:45:09 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 12:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator