From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 21 15:53:02 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2021 20:53:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59531 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2gww-0001b4-3p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:53:02 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2gwt-0001al-SF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:53:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51678) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2gwt-0008SS-Hc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:52:59 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-x832.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::832]:44486) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2gwr-000235-OY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:52:59 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-x832.google.com with SMTP id r9so2586211qtp.11 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:52:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=eqQwjGImOcTWdDkb3PFvJPbImXx67/+hbWyT/bavPdc=; b=jEHhWOSrdef/seHBbaXzsRE5erUX6PXR7T+2UQerlbzIIHdym8U8zNLmrncAyActAb haKNldwPHl5epICUVVCVRiIu1plhUtvdgASIdU//lI9vRib8ODk1IAvHKi8/qlO1J+lG F3JeXS2FhJJ4IaDZ18uNmRG5CZ+e71GifipOvedEUnsANnmsGa0keKeh8+2uGoYCU6JE e/uduYOyiKau5GggxSXn8japnZWwxtUPeIhfTjAISopX4y31SkQjLMAOSjOjbk9clJzS 0Q9dkRZUl3hvXy9lA8k9MpuOoof1pXqmAF8VR1bespNIUY17jyZUwOkNqlW/M2MQOh+q eJIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=eqQwjGImOcTWdDkb3PFvJPbImXx67/+hbWyT/bavPdc=; b=uoW179jcJkyF8Lo0hvPahOP7dtVYhjSAUQM1K6QjvuL6DQ7SIdxt1NLSOPo1qohURx J7UKiD6+KVlqiAUNd2DVAtgopDD0Yw7ghKtIBwry8/818cUjf0sYE2fXJiN4UmUs2YKl SfW86sFAMz6ZZ3ISvo4+NYh4l8uw/KL/LtpSAG9bENpPQrhtLh9WqF4bjfb15oJKXhNw Kpi64wt60XoH1vBa9+/3+WgFdj5T3jM9TQ6GC89vFhdqYR5x5LJeADCdUyxcIMD0qcp+ cQTEW3XukkKGP94msjNFzUtjR9e+AoX7pfEq19oKQGgwJtVvWqUppfcl4t8GqyrdB/ti bF3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533jNsRDvuDSGKtWHtXGDS8SZ376D/sX/2sd0zAKRWJYbHMG4ZMV t631qcMjBUwhsXd5fIuLzQ5nTnJMLmJvYQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx082iW+bqA81ncA/4W3mc8OgeZdkg/LeS5wqgHyv4AccRGyiHsJxzkJgWA9WMmBmoQl5VqXQ== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:66c3:: with SMTP id m3mr1470669qtp.48.1611262376090; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from arch ([2601:8b:c300:1024:1266:d0ff:1635:f964]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l38sm4352939qte.88.2021.01.21.12.52.55 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:52:55 -0800 (PST) User-agent: mu4e 1.5.7; emacs 28.0.50 From: No Wayman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; warning suppression buttons truncate warnings Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:51:09 -0500 Message-ID: <87im7qvwpl.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::832; envelope-from=iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x832.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) The warning suppression buttons introduced in 66d01012ba61a364fe92cdc1728bfa135a90626a truncate warning messages. I have offered a trivial patch in the past to have an option to disable these buttons: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2020-09/msg01405.html Lars did not see it as a valid use case. His argument (summarized): > since you get the warnings so seldom, it makes sense > to have the very few you see come with ready-made ways of making > them go > away, and then you're back to no warnings again. Initially I thought the idea of the buttons was useful, but after thinking on it more I agree with the case against these buttons Jonas Bernoulli made here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-11/msg00768.html I would add to that, the fact that the buttons truncate the warning messages makes it impossible for a user to make an informed decision on whether or not they should be suppressing the warning. The truncated messages are equally useless to me as a developer. Here's an image someone sent me of the warnings on their system: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2872862/105290265-42526580-5bb0-11eb-962d-b56f71b6efc0.png While I politely encouraged them to send text in the future for such output, here's what I would've received: Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: (native-compiler-error-empty-byte "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/straight/straight-au..." "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/straight/straight-au...\ ") Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: (native-compiler-error-empty-byte "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/bind-key/bind-key-au..." "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/bind-key/bind-key-au...\ ") Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: (native-compiler-error-empty-byte "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/use-package/use-pack..." "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/use-package/use-pack...\ ") Disable showing Disable logging It's only by luck I can see enough of the file path to know which files are throwing the errors. Is there a way to work around this (absent my patch)? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 22 04:12:14 2021 Received: (at 46025) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2021 09:12:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60001 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2sUI-0002cL-BY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 04:12:14 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:50287) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2sUF-0002cA-BY for 46025@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 04:12:13 -0500 Received: from mab (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 10M9C9ue019399 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 22 Jan 2021 09:12:10 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: No Wayman Subject: Re: bug#46025: 28.0.50; warning suppression buttons truncate warnings References: <87im7qvwpl.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 09:12:09 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87im7qvwpl.fsf@gmail.com> (No Wayman's message of "Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:51:09 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46025 Cc: 46025@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) No Wayman writes: > The warning suppression buttons introduced in > 66d01012ba61a364fe92cdc1728bfa135a90626a truncate warning messages. > I have offered a trivial patch in the past to have an option to > disable these buttons: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2020-09/msg01405.html > > Lars did not see it as a valid use case. His argument (summarized): > >> since you get the warnings so seldom, it makes sense >> to have the very few you see come with ready-made ways of making >> them go >> away, and then you're back to no warnings again. > > Initially I thought the idea of the buttons was useful, but after > thinking on it more > I agree with the case against these buttons Jonas Bernoulli made here: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-11/msg00768.html > > I would add to that, the fact that the buttons truncate the warning > messages makes it impossible for a user to make an informed decision > on whether or not they should be suppressing the warning. The > truncated messages are equally useless to me as a developer. Here's an > image someone sent me of the warnings on their system: > > https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2872862/105290265-42526580-5bb0-11eb-962d-b56f71b6efc0.png > > While I politely encouraged them to send text in the future for such > output, > here's what I would've received: > > Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: > (native-compiler-error-empty-byte > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/straight/straight-au..." > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/straight/straight-au...\ > ") Disable showing Disable logging > Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: > (native-compiler-error-empty-byte > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/bind-key/bind-key-au..." > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/bind-key/bind-key-au...\ > ") Disable showing Disable logging > Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: > (native-compiler-error-empty-byte > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/use-package/use-pack..." > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/use-package/use-pack...\ > ") Disable showing Disable logging > > It's only by luck I can see enough of the file path to know which > files are throwing the errors. > > Is there a way to work around this (absent my patch)? Hi, is using the full output in the *Async-native-compile-log* buffer an acceptable alternative? Regards Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 22 17:20:19 2021 Received: (at 46025) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2021 22:20:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33374 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l34mw-000385-RI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:20:19 -0500 Received: from mail-qk1-f173.google.com ([209.85.222.173]:35392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l34mt-00037o-8e for 46025@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:20:17 -0500 Received: by mail-qk1-f173.google.com with SMTP id q9so6438584qkn.2 for <46025@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 14:20:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version; bh=/1R0lBx3KHfKS09RG6nJ03AYG7sOK1PlHWsQjgn3FEg=; b=TZxWRLMLO8To03a9YFB4FCoDSBggNQ5JeKq6AAa5m+im6CNJ7ko8QkD1EMi5Ue3xDx 0vOKE4fO2hLjuLt88dPJc3rwG1WLzXjAexcNstmp6nACQLJSE0doXmVMiu+xBBHcuPAp SdIjheiaNH3CYezIvjs8lXbGB2e8KaPDDTUaVA25PU9ZuWcfyDZRPIElfXPEhb31ZVe+ /6k11lIYF712y4GT/4t0iCKLaR4yvnwFF42iBVZe12kQ5jEPv+zlEpEIMhgdT6QsKnWB oydBtNd1gSOkC1dK26PFuU3lUgHbsOGsTGKt3ti6QZykPEOpV8mCvXgfbD1xg+WxfLEb DAZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=/1R0lBx3KHfKS09RG6nJ03AYG7sOK1PlHWsQjgn3FEg=; b=VvOPF7x3EoUvO9AawsUkCmAmmp8yc7g4Z6SfdRlWUZF1vzdXpq2AouGNpgPoFG8WAq iSzPPDP6jemhVPKwOUU8E8NE7+tOD3QiegG/NoQODKUtrVLOpd6XQJVpYmWCI7H7ORBd 8l9B0+D34039TXpWdEa7ikalA9IALSOpKH89sjN10+ERVMR1epoFTc3/fpLTSb0NIjGL w7ELtblh84ehfvaP3OrCcoAgHNUmmvpqzzvegSmofnoyzuaBo3Q0CLreq9fXCXJ2gnYV PwCNw1r5+IypChCEu/ViTcuE9mSjH/wFx+V388xelbm/i/2ZwJIdpTemWby412EGkwsy 0LnA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531q7UKi2pMyM9zMCXIUVKMs7AlBX7a5bPUQy0lcBLiEMu8Tc1Hk WS26/P4FgeGk8TyxeCeqA5GTSJyXymY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz5mfg+AP3I4Rn+BRsvbz61DrXeI2OsjAW7eDVw7RmWGF6eRQOLRoPlwzszlGuzn3xYkmBCrg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1239:: with SMTP id v25mr538421qkj.91.1611354009478; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 14:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from arch ([2601:8b:c300:1024:1266:d0ff:1635:f964]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u65sm7479643qkb.58.2021.01.22.14.20.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 22 Jan 2021 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) References: <87im7qvwpl.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.7; emacs 28.0.50 From: No Wayman To: Andrea Corallo Subject: Re: bug#46025: 28.0.50; warning suppression buttons truncate warnings Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:05:11 -0500 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <878s8kvckn.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46025 Cc: 46025@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Andrea Corallo writes: > > Hi, > > is using the full output in the *Async-native-compile-log* > buffer an > acceptable alternative? > > Regards > > Andrea Hi, Andrea. That's a workaround for the time being and I appreciate the advice. Long term, I think Stefan's idea of educating users on the nature of the warnings and encouraging them to report them to package maintainers seems like a better solution than encouraging them to sweep warnings under the rug. ~ Nick From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 20 23:19:39 2021 Received: (at 46025) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2021 03:19:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56591 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ3Ot-0005np-4J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:19:39 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f174.google.com ([209.85.210.174]:39454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ3Or-0005nb-I4 for 46025@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:19:38 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f174.google.com with SMTP id c17so27350141pfn.6 for <46025@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:19:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TUP90/sjkQ0ueq/eTCnq/yQu9LpXiFm4440xga7uBnE=; b=U50HYTpJVIIFW1BdS3pOX2AWnfeJiTWQfwCuy3MeURt1dbDepnYEINGL82sYo/yZ4p gqhiCQSz5c4DdkhixD19/Jsan+nl0wQC5+n3+6a9ehXs7q3zLY1otox6YzFv9SQrwh6J qknBjU5xnlF1bLZhpiK5jW6XTR8O9TKDRWtuBGeUAVq8EpUjrc9abgja6OGZfm2KDtLN IX3+gDJT13+ubAfEsCoIXtJQDreWopgBoHoO0vooLbOKaAb8OtTyXBuvwg6QFijmZDpL s8Z71DGWEjflImxhbdtEFtSAPTHW4Z7v5e0Ha1THP8KDqXSgZCgXXfpfMGXNlhNOAuQU IJuA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532+Gf/0ieowhePEDPelKaGaAvh3K5xtgkGi/9r4/TGb1YEJIUAW 7CNXCIrI8LyC0zDTrDLyEKCL/bqq0fF8g/eTBco= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyOdUAr96Yh9FJcw3GAdm1F9WozB4okCiObyBE2FUW+Ma5JEdX9viN4gZH5M4KUBgHOIGcaTdXxr1ua7sYzpu0= X-Received: by 2002:a63:5b5c:: with SMTP id l28mr19641018pgm.363.1618975171937; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:19:31 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87im7qvwpl.fsf@gmail.com> (No Wayman's message of "Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:51:09 -0500") References: <87im7qvwpl.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:19:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#46025: 28.0.50; warning suppression buttons truncate warnings To: No Wayman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46025 Cc: 46025@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) No Wayman writes: > The warning suppression buttons introduced in > 66d01012ba61a364fe92cdc1728bfa135a90626a truncate warning messages. > I have offered a trivial patch in the past to have an option to disable these > buttons: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2020-09/msg01405.html > > Lars did not see it as a valid use case. His argument (summarized): > >> since you get the warnings so seldom, it makes sense >> to have the very few you see come with ready-made ways of making them go >> away, and then you're back to no warnings again. > > Initially I thought the idea of the buttons was useful, but after thinking on it > more > I agree with the case against these buttons Jonas Bernoulli made here: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-11/msg00768.html > > I would add to that, the fact that the buttons truncate the warning messages > makes it impossible for a user to make an informed decision on whether or not > they should be suppressing the warning. The truncated messages are equally > useless to me as a developer. Here's an image someone sent me of the warnings on > their system: Yes, it seems useless to have these buttons in their current form. Could we at least disable them until they are fixed to not truncate warnings? They hide the contents of legitimate warnings. > https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2872862/105290265-42526580-5bb0-11eb-962d-b56f71b6efc0.png > > While I politely encouraged them to send text in the future for such output, > here's what I would've received: > > Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: (native-compiler-error-empty-byte > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/straight/straight-au..." > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/straight/straight-au...\ > ") Disable showing Disable logging > Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: (native-compiler-error-empty-byte > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/bind-key/bind-key-au..." > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/bind-key/bind-key-au...\ > ") Disable showing Disable logging > Warning (comp): Debugger entered--Lisp error: (native-compiler-error-empty-byte > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/use-package/use-pack..." > "/root/.emacs.d/straight/build/use-package/use-pack...\ > ") Disable showing Disable logging > > It's only by luck I can see enough of the file path to know which files are > throwing the errors. > > Is there a way to work around this (absent my patch)? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 21 04:58:46 2021 Received: (at 46025) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2021 08:58:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56970 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ8h4-0006GJ-G2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 04:58:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48920) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ8h3-0006G5-Cn for 46025@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 04:58:45 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ8gy-0000bI-49; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 04:58:40 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1479 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ8gq-0005iN-VW; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 04:58:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:58:21 +0300 Message-Id: <83h7k0qaj6.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:19:31 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#46025: 28.0.50; warning suppression buttons truncate warnings References: <87im7qvwpl.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46025 Cc: 46025@debbugs.gnu.org, iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:19:31 -0500 > Cc: 46025@debbugs.gnu.org > > Yes, it seems useless to have these buttons in their current form. > > Could we at least disable them until they are fixed to not truncate > warnings? They hide the contents of legitimate warnings. AFAIK, the warnings are only truncated when they are VERY long, as in the case above, where they show the backtrace from the Lisp debugger. Originally, there was a bug that would cause almost every message be truncated, but that was fixed. Not sure what to do with warnings that show backtraces. 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