From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:14:40 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#45781 <45781@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#45781 <45781@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Emacs packages not visible out of the box Reply-To: bug#45781 <45781@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:14:40 +0000 retitle 45781 Emacs packages not visible out of the box reassign 45781 guix submitter 45781 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s severity 45781 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 11 08:37:20 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2021 13:37:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56123 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kyxNn-0008GP-Ov for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 08:37:19 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kyxNl-0008GE-JD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 08:37:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51060) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kyxNl-0001OU-Br for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 08:37:17 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kyxNl-0007CK-3T for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 08:37:17 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=57942 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kyxNg-0003Ra-DG for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 08:37:16 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Subject: Emacs packages not visible out of the box X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 22 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 14:37:10 +0100 Message-ID: <874kjnegs9.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi! Consider this Emacs: guix environment -E DISPLAY --expose=3D/tmp/.X11-unix \ --ad-hoc -C emacs emacs-geiser emacs-guix guile \ -- emacs -Q Things like M-x run-guile (from Geiser) or M-x guix are not accessible by default. I have to explicitly (require 'geiser) etc. to get them. It seems to me that it used to be the case that Emacs packages were readily usable in fresh environments, no? Did something change recently? That=E2=80=99s with: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix describe Generacio 171 Jan 11 2021 11:38:39 (nuna) guix 458cb25 repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git branch: master commit: 458cb25b9e7e7c954f468023abea2bebb5d8c75b --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Ludo=E2=80=99. 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[66.158.152.143]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e1sm3736573qkd.135.2021.01.21.05.47.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 05:47:51 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: bug#45781: Emacs packages not visible out of the box References: <874kjnegs9.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 08:47:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874kjnegs9.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Mon, 11 Jan 2021 14:37:10 +0100") Message-ID: <87mtx2flkp.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45781-done Cc: 45781-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 45781 notabug thanks Hi Ludovic! Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi! > > Consider this Emacs: > > guix environment -E DISPLAY --expose=3D/tmp/.X11-unix \ > --ad-hoc -C emacs emacs-geiser emacs-guix guile \ > -- emacs -Q > > Things like M-x run-guile (from Geiser) or M-x guix are not accessible > by default. I have to explicitly (require 'geiser) etc. to get them. That's expected when using -Q, which does --no-site-file. The site file is responsible to load the package autoloads files, via 'guix-emacs-autoload-packages'. > It seems to me that it used to be the case that Emacs packages were > readily usable in fresh environments, no? Did something change > recently? No, nothing changed! Closing, Thank you. Maxim From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:14:40 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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