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28.0.50; calendar-iso-date-string: "Day 6 of week 53 of 2020"

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From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.0.50; calendar-iso-date-string: "Day 6 of week 53 of 2020"
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 12:03:16 +0100

(calendar-iso-date-string) gives following information on this day:
"Day 6 of week 53 of 2020" which I consider wrong as it is 2021 and
the year has 52 weeks normally, the days at begin of the new year
should not be considered past year.





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Message #8 received at 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#45608: 28.0.50; calendar-iso-date-string: "Day 6 of week 53
 of 2020"
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 11:32:36 +0000

On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 12:03:16PM +0100, Jean Louis wrote:
> 
> (calendar-iso-date-string) gives following information on this day:
> "Day 6 of week 53 of 2020" which I consider wrong as it is 2021 and
> the year has 52 weeks normally, the days at begin of the new year
> should not be considered past year.

You'd best take that up with ISO, as this is how ISO dates work.

-- 
Alan Third

Message #11 received at 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#45608: 28.0.50; calendar-iso-date-string: "Day 6 of week 53
 of 2020"
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 12:33:18 +0100

Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:

> (calendar-iso-date-string) gives following information on this day:
> "Day 6 of week 53 of 2020" which I consider wrong as it is 2021 and
> the year has 52 weeks normally, the days at begin of the new year
> should not be considered past year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

"An ISO week-numbering year (also called ISO year informally) has 52 or
53 full weeks. That is 364 or 371 days instead of the usual 365 or 366
days. The extra week is sometimes referred to as a leap week, although
ISO 8601 does not use this term. Weeks start with Monday. Each week's
year is the Gregorian year in which the Thursday falls. The first week
of the year, hence, always contains 4 January. ISO week year numbering
therefore slightly deviates from the Gregorian for some days close to 1
January."

Closing.

-- 
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Message #18 received at 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#45608: 28.0.50;
 calendar-iso-date-string: "Day 6 of week 53 of 2020"
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 13:40:41 +0200

> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 12:03:16 +0100
> From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
> 
> (calendar-iso-date-string) gives following information on this day:
> "Day 6 of week 53 of 2020" which I consider wrong as it is 2021 and
> the year has 52 weeks normally, the days at begin of the new year
> should not be considered past year.

When a week starts in year Y and ends in year Y+1, what would you want
to see instead?  Saying "week 1 of 2021" would be wrong for the same
reason.

Message #21 received at 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#45608: 28.0.50; calendar-iso-date-string: "Day 6 of week 53
 of 2020"
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 13:42:47 +0100

On Jan 02 2021, Jean Louis wrote:

> the year has 52 weeks normally

That is not possible, as 52 weeks can only cover 364 days.

Andreas.

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Message #24 received at 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#45608: 28.0.50; calendar-iso-date-string: "Day 6 of week 53
 of 2020"
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 09:17:52 -0800 (PST)

> > (calendar-iso-date-string) gives following information on this day:
> > "Day 6 of week 53 of 2020" which I consider wrong as it is 2021 and
> > the year has 52 weeks normally, the days at begin of the new year
> > should not be considered past year.
> 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date__;!!G
> qivPVa7Brio!LxlLxRzS6V8fuHzPVAnAczqQvPR708E_qdx6x3He2wfh95sRUnSwi7xVfdtCWDxz$
> 
> "An ISO week-numbering year (also called ISO year informally) has 52 or
> 53 full weeks. That is 364 or 371 days instead of the usual 365 or 366
> days. The extra week is sometimes referred to as a leap week, although
> ISO 8601 does not use this term. Weeks start with Monday. Each week's
> year is the Gregorian year in which the Thursday falls. The first week
> of the year, hence, always contains 4 January. ISO week year numbering
> therefore slightly deviates from the Gregorian for some days close to 1
> January."

Very cool.  Interesting.  Thanks for citing that, Lars.

Message #27 received at 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 45608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#45608: 28.0.50; calendar-iso-date-string: "Day 6 of week 53
 of 2020"
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 21:00:30 +0300

Alright, thank you all for references.

ISO date was kind of interesting in communication with people I know
and I used it for quite a long time.

I will now start using normalized version like:

(calendar-date-string (calendar-current-date))
"Saturday, January 2, 2021"

Jean

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