From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:39:44 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4547: a bug: emacs 23.1: very large font Reply-To: Daniel Novotny , 4547@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Daniel Novotny Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:05:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 4547 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125378634520495 (code B ref -1); Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:05:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Sep 2009 09:59:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,MONOTONE_WORDS_2_15 autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8O9x3Cs020490 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:59:04 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mql6N-0003VV-4L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:59:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mql6I-0003UB-UP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:59:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59577 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mql6I-0003U7-LB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:58 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:17933) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mql6I-0004pF-7T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:58 -0400 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8O9wvbw016445 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:57 -0400 Received: from mail04.corp.redhat.com (zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.5.44]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8O9wvTu010674 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Novotny To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-ID: <487180556.521141253786336982.JavaMail.root@zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <2043147550.521091253786215111.JavaMail.root@zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.5.5.72] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Hello, we upgraded Emacs in Fedora 11 and 12 to 23.1, but users start complaining, that the font is too large. this is a screenshot from cleanly installed Fedora 12 Alpha, showing the default font: http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dnovotny/emacs-fonts-large.jpg do you know, what can be done to obtain the same font size as before? This is a screenshot from Fedora 10: http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dnovotny/emacs-fonts-normal.jpg the bug report implies that the problem here is that emacs is scaling the requested font size according to the display resolution reported by Xorg. These are accurate for the dimensions of the screen, but that doesn't mean emacs should use them to change the font sizes the user requested: see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517272#c3 thank you for your ideas, Daniel Novotny, Red Hat inc. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:39:44 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4547: a bug: emacs 23.1: very large font Reply-To: Kenichi Handa , 4547@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:35:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4547 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125436038621563 (code B ref -1); Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:35:05 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Oct 2009 01:26:26 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n911QOA4021560 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:26:25 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MtAR4-0007DN-B2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:26:22 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MtAQz-00078T-CW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:26:21 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48085 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MtAQz-000789-3d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:26:17 -0400 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:49090) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MtAQy-00035K-DJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:26:16 -0400 Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n911Q5qf016329; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:26:05 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp2.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n911Q5TI015076; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:26:05 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n911Q4WJ004449; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:26:04 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtAQm-0002mK-5V; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:26:04 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa To: Daniel Novotny , 4547@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <487180556.521141253786336982.JavaMail.root@zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> (message from Daniel Novotny on Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:56 -0400 (EDT)) References: <487180556.521141253786336982.JavaMail.root@zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:26:04 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 In article <487180556.521141253786336982.JavaMail.root@zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>, Daniel Novotny writes: > the bug report implies that the problem here is that emacs is scaling the requested font size according to > the display resolution reported by Xorg. These are accurate for the dimensions of the screen, but that > doesn't mean emacs should use them to change the font sizes the user requested: > see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517272#c3 That bug report says: > eg, my laptop display reports xdpyinfo > > dimensions: 1600x1200 pixels (304x228 millimeters) > resolution: 134x134 dots per inch > > while my external monitor report > > dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (514x321 millimeters) > resolution: 83x83 dots per inch > > Now both of these are accurate for the dimensions of the screen, but that > doesn't mean emacs should use them to change the font sizes the user requested > > > For example, using my laptop display > > > > - Go to the menu 'Options -> Set Default Font'. > > - Select 'DejaVu Sans Mono, Book, 12pt' > > - In a buffer, move cursor over a letter, and type 'c-u c-x =', and it > > displays > > > > xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-22-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 > > (#x50) > > ie, so when user requested requested 12pt, and emacs instead gave them 22pt At least, this bug report confuses point and pixelsize. In the above case, Emacs selected "22-pixelsize" font, not "22-point" font. And, on 134 DPI screen, 22-pixel is 12-point (3.4mm). So, it should be the correct size the user requested by saying "12pt". If one wants a font of 12-pixelsize, do something like: ESC : (set-default-font "dejavu sans mono:pixelsize=12") RET --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From lekktu@gmail.com Thu Oct 22 02:35:31 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Oct 2009 09:35:32 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,MISSING_SUBJECT, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8,NOSUBJECT,VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mail-fx0-f213.google.com (mail-fx0-f213.google.com [209.85.220.213]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9M9ZTNW004084 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:35:31 -0700 Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so9696363fxm.1 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:35:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=8EmqKmTQZFxRHmBqMf0mAHPBq3MFliknc0lztWoJq6Y=; b=HxQYupT4FFltZz1ItMJj0h3XTFYNK5e7ryT0Cek2T3YESYQLNQM8G9V9i2CKiMAEbc EvYuLj8f7w1qApk14qvzihjcYCGQUOU+1DBevO5UhGKLQhzQ6+vBiuihHNGFYaXeeEYe kJYg0CmwEGM5xp9e/Qz4pt4br7Ml4TcpNJkWo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Y5ybjjcxlLdLgAFAm7oQwPF4q6enZ/vhDgoBesbKLPsYfKZBy2gNxuVUArd1lZsA9C Mqc9bcUQhekOxrkhuBrM/oRLNjZDm8m0DPtCnEMhvvK6rKfs9H9j6QMJR6VObUwlfUeo 7VB35jQ8OYFrwvpcsbgPdQA8bmjmcb1XFRU14= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.8 with SMTP id q8mr761204hba.122.1256204124158; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:35:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 reassign 4326 emacs,ns merge 4261 4434 merge 1589 3359 4207 merge 3829 4077 tags 4781 + patch tags 4747 + patch tags 4579 + patch tags 4471 + patch tags 4434 + patch tags 4234 + patch tags 4221 + patch tags 4147 + patch tags 4144 + patch tags 4139 + patch tags 4023 + patch tags 4736 + moreinfo unreproducible tags 4547 + notabug tags 4451 + notabug tags 4448 + moreinfo tags 4427 + moreinfo tags 4373 + notabug tags 4360 + notabug tags 4271 + moreinfo tags 4236 + moreinfo tags 4143 + moreinfo unreproducible tags 4120 + moreinfo unreproducible tags 4070 + moreinfo unreproducible severity 4422 wishlist severity 4396 minor severity 4394 minor severity 4341 wishlist severity 4300 minor severity 4263 minor severity 4178 minor severity 4172 wishlist severity 4110 wishlist severity 4056 wishlist close 4772 close 4700 close 4599 close 4515 close 4463 close 4445 close 4395 close 4334 close 4289 close 4219 quit From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:39:44 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4547: a bug: emacs 23.1: very large font Reply-To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , 4547@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4547 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: notabug Received: via spool by 4547-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4547.125845030214066 (code B ref 4547); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:04 +0000 Received: (at 4547) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Nov 2009 09:31:42 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAH9VeIx014063 for <4547@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:31:42 -0800 Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (195.54.127.164) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C000F6B169 for 4547@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:31:34 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmdZAF78AUtV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACBS4Maly4BAQEBN6kWkQWBMII3VAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,757,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="4397065" Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2009 10:31:34 +0100 Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE4A7FA07B for <4547@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:31:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B026D75.30109@swipnet.se> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:31:33 +0100 From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 4547@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While not technically a bug, it is unfortunate that Emacs uses a DPI value other than the rest of the applications. In Emacs CVS (i.e. the upcoming Emacs 23.2 release), Emacs looks at the DPI setting from XSETTINGS and uses that. That should make Emacs looks the same as other applications. Jan D. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:39:44 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4547: a bug: emacs 23.1: very large font Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 4547@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:55:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4547 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: notabug Received: via spool by 4547-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4547.12584655306295 (code B ref 4547); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:55:06 +0000 Received: (at 4547) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Nov 2009 13:45:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAHDjS6I006291 for <4547@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:45:29 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEACM4AkvO+II8/2dsb2JhbACBS9VThDsEiT4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,758,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="49530269" Received: from 206-248-130-60.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.130.60]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2009 08:45:19 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1C6728173; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:45:19 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 4547@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: References: <4B026D75.30109@swipnet.se> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:45:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4B026D75.30109@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv"'s?= message of "Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:31:33 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > While not technically a bug, it is unfortunate that Emacs uses a DPI value > other than the rest of the applications. The main problem I see is that Emacs tries to choose a default font such that it will always have the same physical screen size. This seemed like a good idea at some point in time, but experience shows that with higher DPIs, the smoother curves of letters makes the text more legible at the same physical display size, so people are happy to use slightly smaller fonts (in other words, small fonts used to be illegible not just because they were physically small but also because there weren't enough pixels to make them legible). So choosing a fixed physical size is not really a good idea. Another reason why this is, is that what "really" matters is not the dimension of text on the physical screen, but the "apparent size" seen from the user, which is approximately "screen-size / distance-from-the-eye". And it turns out that the distance between the eye and the screen depends on the device being used. For all these reasons, the real physical DPI is not an ideal basis to choose the default font size. So using some kind of user-controlled "perceived DPI" would be a much better choice. IIUC the DPI provided by Xsettings is a good choice for that. Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:39:44 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: Daniel Novotny Subject: bug#4547 closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#4547: emacs 23.1: very large font) Message-ID: References: <487180556.521141253786336982.JavaMail.root@zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 4547 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: notabug Reply-To: 4547@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:09:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1264619342-23898-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1264619342-23898-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #4547: a bug: emacs 23.1: very large font It has been closed by Glenn Morris . 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If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Glenn Morris by replying to this email. --=20 4547: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D4547 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1264619342-23898-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 4547-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2010 19:08:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaDFu-0006DC-QE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:08:47 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaDFr-0006D4-OE for 4547-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:08:43 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaDFn-0001lN-DA; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:08:39 -0500 To: 4547-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#4547: emacs 23.1: very large font References: <4B026D75.30109@swipnet.se> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: cracking Roswell Elvis mania bomb Ft. Bragg Zachawi lynch X-Ran: ELTmCZ3b(b>Z_itA0e,hygA19gJPWyRg+F"cS(v=-fHaRLwfa9=^Ic!P(dNO$%1}xU5&{} X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:08:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue\, 17 Nov 2009 08\:45\:19 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4547-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Changes to the development version of Emacs ought to have made this issue go away. Please reopen this if there are still problems. ------------=_1264619342-23898-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Sep 2009 09:59:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,MONOTONE_WORDS_2_15 autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8O9x3Cs020490 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:59:04 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mql6N-0003VV-4L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:59:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mql6I-0003UB-UP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:59:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59577 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mql6I-0003U7-LB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:58 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:17933) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mql6I-0004pF-7T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:58 -0400 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8O9wvbw016445 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:57 -0400 Received: from mail04.corp.redhat.com (zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.5.44]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8O9wvTu010674 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Novotny To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-ID: <487180556.521141253786336982.JavaMail.root@zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <2043147550.521091253786215111.JavaMail.root@zmail04.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Subject: a bug: emacs 23.1: very large font MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.5.5.72] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Hello, we upgraded Emacs in Fedora 11 and 12 to 23.1, but users start complaining, that the font is too large. this is a screenshot from cleanly installed Fedora 12 Alpha, showing the default font: http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dnovotny/emacs-fonts-large.jpg do you know, what can be done to obtain the same font size as before? This is a screenshot from Fedora 10: http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dnovotny/emacs-fonts-normal.jpg the bug report implies that the problem here is that emacs is scaling the requested font size according to the display resolution reported by Xorg. These are accurate for the dimensions of the screen, but that doesn't mean emacs should use them to change the font sizes the user requested: see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517272#c3 thank you for your ideas, Daniel Novotny, Red Hat inc. ------------=_1264619342-23898-1--